0:00 Like the Dems I think all the black people that voted for Trump were too dumb to realize they were being tricked. So That's crazy. We can't have a normal conversation about like, "Hey, these are the reasons why I voted this way." All right, I have a question for the boys and girl. Mhm. Clean first. Are the Democrats getting too good at messaging? What message are you talking about? The sh thing? No, no, no, no, check this out. Check this out. This is a video that they just released and I think it's so sick. No! That's kind of cool. Bento Box Queen? It's just like all the reps. It's all these reps and they're doing like fake fight poses. Yeah, it's really like it's
0:51 a tough watch. It is a tough watch. That's kind of funny. I I It's also too much to read. Like you're not supposed to write that much for these. It's that like nobody cares about, right? No, you know what? That's that's literally how memes die, though. Yeah, dude. That's the end of the video. Did you see that one where it was like all of them saying the same thing and then they're they're saying sh And it was like, "What?" "It ain't ain't true sh or something." Yeah, but um It was written by one script writer or whatever or think tank or whatever and then they It's like, dude, it's so it's so cringey. question is, how do we fix the Democrats' messaging issue? Stop trying to be so hip. Yeah. Let's start with that. Because Well, you know what's weird is they used to be the cool When we were growing up,
1:41 Republicans were so ████ lame. Lame, yeah. They need Diddy back. Vote or die. Yeah, Republicans were really lame ones. Bring that back. Obama era was probably peak Democrat coolness. Yeah. Or Bill Clinton was pretty cool, too. Cuz remember he was wearing sunglasses on City Hall? I think before that, it was they were always the the party of the youth and cool. Exactly. Well, I just I just want them to stop saying things are great. I'm just sick of that. Acting like everything's okay. I'm sick of them saying that like, "No, actually unemployment's way down. No, actually they're like Well, now they're saying the opposite. It happened in in one month. They're like, "Egg prices are a big problem." Yeah. We got a real big problem with the economy now. I'm like, "Where were you guys?" Yeah. You guys weren't saying this in the last term at all. I think um what was it? Bernie was probably the most
2:31 cool Like he's talking about things people wanted to hear. By a mile. Yeah, but that that was a great show of proof that a guy like that could never get in. Yeah. Yep. That that's not what they want. Well, they screwed the Dems. The Dems screwed him. Donna Brazile admitted to it and then they they just don't care about that. It's so depressing. Yeah. Cuz they lost all the candidates that could have been. So like in 2020, when Tulsi was running, she was actually I thought she was she had a good chance. Yeah. Yeah, me, too. They lost her. Um and there's really no candidates that are saying things that we want to hear. They're all saying Is that because of our politics or is that because their messaging is not very good? I think it's the messaging. Cuz I feel like now they really need to don't I I hear a lot of like a lot of media channels posting about
3:22 Bill Burr talking about everything. And everyone People are pretty People like Bill Burr, you know, and and he talks about He's like ████ on all the CEOs of like these health insurance companies. And he's just talking about basic stuff like that the American people want to hear. Like, "Yeah, can we get lower prices on health care? Can we make this a better system?" And I think whether whatever side you're on, when you hear people make those arguments, you're like, "Yeah, I think all Americans kind of want that." Just like health care stuff. Like the big problems that I feel like Yeah, the Democrats don't really talk about that stuff. Which is really weird, right? Cuz that's what they used to do all the Like they were the biggest voices against war. They were when I I just I just don't know this party anymore. Cuz when we were growing up, they were the cool ones that were like challenging censorship. They were the
4:12 ones that were like ████ on Dick Cheney. Yeah, we don't like war. And they were like really for the people. And then somewhere during COVID or whatever, it all changed. Cuz now it's like what's weird to me is both it should be bipartisan where we want them to scrutinize their spending and not be corrupt, right? That should be bipartisan, but then now it's only it's kind of be it it could be it's like one side is doge and then the other side is just, "Oh, what are you doing? You don't need to do all that." You want to steal my social security number. Yeah. Have you seen the Bill Burr things where I think Quartering was picking him apart because I guess back in the day he used to complain about billionaires and millionaires like having all this influence. And then he changed it to He says the same thing, but he doesn't say millionaires anymore. He says billionaires.
5:02 For Bill Burr Cuz he's a millionaire now? Because now like his sentiment compared to when he first started is it's kind of the same, but he's excluding himself. I don't think it's like Lit. Bernie should do that, too. Yeah. Oh, dude, Bernie should have done it from the start. Dude, but Cuz he's a millionaire, not billionaires, but he's a millionaire. Yeah. I think it's stupid to go, "Oh, it's the immigrants or the billionaires or whatever." It's really a network of corrupt bureaucrats and hella rich oligarchs of America working together to get the deal done. And we all get ████ Yeah. But how can how can the Democrats actually do something about that messaging, though? Because they're not really out there saying a lot of that. I think the Democratic Party needs a disruptor because there it's have a voice. Dude, I would love if they made fun of themselves more. I would be more receptive to everything they have to say if they just sounded like nicer people.
5:53 Oh, you mean like in just the marketing? Yeah. Or you mean like marketing. Cuz I feel like right now they're at 20% approval rating, the Democratic Party. Well, I think something happened to where they they're like more like snobs where if you don't believe everything that they do, you're just a dumb and they don't have any time to talk to you. And I think that's ████ up. Well, that's the other thing. I don't think they sound like America when I hear them talking. Like I like the way that we're talking right now, like I don't think that they talk like that or or maybe they would even be offended because you just said ████ Yeah. But that that's how This is how people talk, like regular people. Right. Like I remember the day after the election, going just going to the store and stuff and just seeing people just living their lives and being normal. But like when you go on Twitter or wherever you are at, people are burn They're cutting their hair off and Yeah. shaving their heads and losing
6:44 their minds, but like normal people are just like, "We have We're just living our lives." Yeah, normal people don't have time for that. No, right. Yeah, I just wish that they would take themselves less serious cuz I think when you think of AOC, it's like I I would like to be more receptive to what she has to say, but she she delivers it with such a rigidity and a feel I feel like she hates me when she's telling me. Right. Right. She's complaining about me. Somebody told Democrat pollster I think on election day, one of the exit polling people, they were like, "I don't like what the Democrats have to say because they make me feel bad about myself." Yeah, that's "Damn." I think that's so true. That's very like the core of it. Right. Cuz it was just a guy being interviewed. He's just a man and he's like, "I just feel bad about myself when I hear them talking." like there's a lot of There's a lot of equating. You know the equating thing where it's like, "Oh, if you this, then you are this." Right. A lot of that comes from the Dem side where it's like, "Oh, so I'm I'm
7:35 all of these things?" You're a Nazi. I'm a Nazi, Islamophobic. I'm like all these things because I don't completely agree with something? Yeah, I think that's what's weird because from Obama Democrats and before, they were so much more like we want to bring manufacturing back. They're talking about jobs. They're talking about like waste. Government Obama's talking about government waste. And I think that that to me was like way more of a oh, they cared about the people versus like now they're just trying to like control the morality of people and shaming them and like, "You're an idiot." shaming. What do you guys think about Stephen A. Smith running for president? Is he going to run for president? So lately, so he's one of the names that gets mentioned because he pulls pretty well. Really? And he's responded to it saying that's that just goes to show how in dire
8:26 straits the Democrats are if they're choosing like me. He doesn't want it. He's really And Yeah. Which I think I like Stephen A. I've always liked Stephen A. So like the idea that he could be the Democrat on the Democrat ticket, I already like that better than ████ Gavin Newsom. that's why comedy and comedians and all these things are doing so much better because with as life gets harder, all you have is humor to like get through it. And I think the lack of humor on the Dem side, it makes them look like they're not the answer. Because it's like, "No, I still need to cope. I need to cope with all these all inflation, the fact I can't buy a house here and all this like other ████ It's just that your salary doesn't equate to being a living wage." Like you have to laugh. One of the things that feels like something's wrong in the party is everyone feels manufactured and
9:18 constructed and polished. So it doesn't seem like Yes. they're authentic. And I know that, you know, Trump and his team, they have a PR team and they It's just It's just a different game because even if they are lying, at least they're willing to go to a podcast and do a 3-hour conversation. Mhm. At least they're willing. Right? And and so now we get to decide and and and hey, is that a lie or not? Yes. But then when Kamala was making her rounds, she only did like one or two podcasts and it was very controlled. daddy. He's very like friendly. She wanted all the questions. Like it wasn't free flowing. It felt like to me old media is now it has this like stigma of everything is a lie and everything is like so constructed. Well, we want to get to
10:09 know the person. And I think they failed massively because they're still doing things so old school that we need new politicians that can just sit on a podcast and have a conversation where like okay, we get to hear these guys talk. Bill Clinton was a master at seeming like a regular human being. Yeah, he was good at that ████ Yeah. And and and honestly Obama did a great job of that, too. Oh my god, yeah. Like he he was more polished he was more polished than Clinton, but he was he did a great job of just seeming like a guy. A regular dude. could be proud as ████ of Obama. Yeah, legit. You could love the fact that that's your leader. Exactly. But Obama won because he scooped up all of the people that voted for Bush. Disaffected. They were disaffected. both they voted for Bush and then they felt like that that didn't work out. do anything for me. Yeah, and then so what did Obama do? He went to all the coal mining towns and all the factories and he was just like
11:00 dude, let's bring these jobs back to America. Who do you think could be the voice of the Dems now? Cuz I feel like they do like you said they need one. That's what I'm wondering from you guys. I think I think from Hillary and on the Dems really ████ up because her campaign was I'm with her. It was dog ████ So like It was dog ████ like wait, so the only thing you're running on is let's be the first to elect a woman president in America and there's no real talk about policy or what she believes. home. They don't it's not about electing a female president right now. Like it's about them. Yeah. And that's what she totally missed. Yeah. And I think Kam Kamala did the same exact thing. Well, she ran on actually things are good and people are actually just lying about how things are. Like they don't understand that things are good. So we need to get the word out that things are really good. And most people are like nah. Yeah, it's not. No, I don't feel like it. That's that's the most annoying
11:50 part. It's that didn't work. It's it'll never be true no matter what. Right. People have such different experiences depending on where they live in the United States. You could never tell everyone it's all good. It's not. But you can you can always remember like I'll never forget in the 90s. Like things were good. Like the the the Clinton economy was so good. Like like it was noticeable and I remember even like families talking about it, my parents talking about it. It was almost like Reagan was in office how they talk about those years. I don't remember that ████ You know what I mean? Like it was just like things were good and things were cheap and business was booming and dot com was going on off and all that ████ So I just think that sometimes you could just you just can smell the air and you're like okay, things are better. Yes, of course people suffered, but on the whole things felt good. And it felt like that before COVID too. Before COVID, I felt like things felt like they were kind of taking off in the right
12:41 direction. And then they Before COVID, right? Connect before COVID. Before COVID was lit. I feel like it was I felt the ball was rolling. Yeah. The ball was definitely rolling, man. I remember remember DJ 30th birthday party? It was lit. You had to be there. No, we're not basing off of that. America, you had to be there. It was affordable. Yeah, COVID ████ some ████ up. Gas wasn't bad. Gas, he just spent I'm like zig zig zig I'm like you don't get this, you're going to buy this. This is affordable, let's go. We can afford raises to do do do do do do do. Yep. Mountain Dew gives you a nice you know deal and then you're like damn. Getting brand deals everywhere. YouTube everyone. Getting brand deals. Everybody in the YouTube game was smoking. They're on fire. That's true. I just could never back then imagine like a whole group of people not wanting to associate with me because of a preference I had. No. No,
13:31 yeah. Never. I could have never saw that coming. And and and people in my family too I noticed like they were doing well and they're talking about it. You know what I mean? It wasn't just tubers come. It was like everybody was kind of having a good time. We bought you know we bought a whole shelf of ████ Oreos off the shelf. You know what I mean? Like Killing it. Dude, we are ████ we are going in, yeah. But then but then now people can argue saying yo, that wasn't Trump's work. That was Obama's work. Nobody cares. Yeah, but that's the thing. They always do that about everything. I mean Trump they're also doing that right now. They are. So it's like kind of They're always going to do that. Yeah. I mean that's the argument people are going to say. Republicans said that the Clinton economy was so good cuz of Reagan and Bush. Like it's the same ████ It's always going to be like that. Always happens. Yeah, and some of the things don't get executed until after they leave office.
14:21 That's a fact. So it's like what are people talking about? Some of the messaging for the Republican side is ████ worse though. I mean when you look at Ben Shapiro saying some of his ████ Ben Shapiro is doing a rap song with with Tim Tom McDonald. I think he just he just he's super out of touch I think. He literally got out of hands. Yeah. Shapiro went out of hands. He's just the everyman. Yeah, yeah. I think he's just more worried about making money. Yeah, he's like he's just a full on tuber now. Yeah, he's a tuber. That's what it feels like. It feels like he's just saying things just to get views. Like I don't even know if he I don't even know if he believes it. I think he absolutely believes it. I think he absolutely believes it. I want to see more like left wing influencers that are coming up with their own like takes on Yeah, takes on cuz they exist, right? But not in the way that the right does. And I
15:12 think the reason why a lot lot a lot of the right had the right one or like is taking like pop culture too now is because you have so many people with diverse thought that is championing an idea. And then there's no like solidarity either. Like some people believe one thing maybe about IVF the other group, but then there's discourse, there's talking, there's like there's more action going on. Whereas like I don't really see that on the left. It's it's almost like everyone just thinks the same exact way. you don't think it, you're getting smoked. Yeah, or the conversation gets shut down. Yeah, yeah. Yep. I think you have to have room in your platform for forgiveness for people as well. Yeah. If you say the wrong thing, but they don't have that. Don't eat your own food. You demonize somebody indefinitely. And I think that's where
16:03 all like the the cuz everyone talks about the woke stuff. It's almost hand in hand with the left, right? So it's like or the Dems. And I feel like from that stage they were just recovering from like pointing fingers, demonizing you, demonizing you. So it's like I think they're going to have to obviously adjust that, right? Like it seems like they understand that they can't really do that anymore. But I don't know if that'll continue. I don't think they've applied that though. Yeah, they haven't. Cuz it seems like they're just kind of like lost right now. Do they believe do they believe that like cuz at least from our side and everything we've had to cover and watch through the years I don't think that the Republicans needed a good message because they were reliant on the bad messaging from the left pushing people to their side. I think that's what happened now. Yeah, more it's like messaging. So like but but are they aware that are they aware that they're campaigning for the Republican side by doing these things? I don't think so. No, because well I've talked to my
16:55 friends who are like hardcore, you know, Democrats and whatever and I do believe in the whole echo chamber thing where our realities are so different now. Completely, yeah. Like we're not watching the same news stations, we're not watching the same stories that are going on. same article. And you're not watching opposing Yeah, so like Exactly. for at least for them they can't even like grasp their mind around why someone can even vote for Trump. Oh. So they can't even consider it because like when I talk to them they're like well clearly he's a immoral person. Clearly this is the party of evil. How can anyone even like go that way? He got convicted of raping a lady. And then so I'm like do you really believe that all these former Dems, all these people that used to really believe in the party like they left because they
17:46 are somehow like magically like like put a spell on by the Trump camp? He goes no, a lot of people I actually know they're so disap pointed with Democrats that they believe that Trump might be a better option cuz then his first term was fine. But then they're like how how is that even an option? It wasn't fine, blah blah blah. Yeah. And then so the people that I know that can't even consider it is they really do believe that the Republicans are racist. They believe it to the point where like they're like I just don't understand how a minority can even go right because they hate you. not listening to them. You're not listening to those minorities who voted that way. You don't want to listen to them. You want to just tell them you want to get you want to be a doctor and give them a prescription and say like just do listen to me. Well they don't yeah, they don't even they think that if you do then all of a sudden
18:36 you're a race traitor, something's wrong with you cuz you just align yourself with white to the point where you want to be white. I think all the black people that voted for Trump were too dumb to realize they were being tricked. And they'll say that openly. We can't have a normal conversation about like hey, these are the reasons why I voted this way because they automatically write you off as you're Yeah. Not only that, you're you're you want to be white or they they demonize you and they put all these labels on you. Or you're just a victim. Yeah, like there's no way you have a sound mind and you made an adult decision. Yeah. I could take I could take a Bill Clinton speech and I could put it side by side issue by issue with Trump and it's the same ████ Trump is honestly a 90s Bill Clinton Democrat and I don't think the left understands that that is how simple it is. Did you see that video where they took Trump's tax plans and
19:27 they said they were Bernie's and they told people on the street and they were like that's what I'm talking about. That's how polarized we are. That's how polarized we are. Yeah, they were like see Bernie knows what he's doing, man. You just have a different name attached and instantly your perspective and But those guys don't do research. They just look at it and then if that's what it It's also it's also almost impossible to research everything. Yeah, nothing's real. If you did that to me, I wouldn't know, but I wouldn't answer. I would just be like I don't know what the ████ Yeah, but then I do where I do disagree with Bill Burr is like, "What are you doing your own research? You you doing your own And I'm like, yeah, actually, if you ever met one person who like we've talked about many times like you got a a bad diagnosis from a doctor, you had to go get multiple second opinion, third opinion, fourth opinion. But I remember hearing Bill Burr being like during COVID, he's like, "You doing your own research? Oh, good. I'm glad your dumbass is doing his own research." I'm like, "No, unfortunately, people have to
20:17 do that because they can't rely on just a stamp from somebody who's of authority because it doesn't always work for anybody. Yep. Right. And when things are important enough, too, you want to do your due diligence. Exactly right. Exactly right. Yeah, but I do think it's interesting though on the way that they view Trump supporters, right? So not everyone thinks this way, but one guy has pointed out, he goes, "All right, so if you believe that corruption does exist in the government and all that, why do you give grace to this camp? Like, why why do you not look at them with the same scrutiny as everybody else?" He goes, "Why does the Trump supporting group go, 'This is our chance. Elon and these guys now is going to clean up things.' And and he's like, 'So that doesn't make any sense to me because you should be looking at everybody with the
21:08 skepticism." Agreed. Yeah. They should look at everybody. Yeah, I mean, that's true. Like I I don't have that whole like blindness Trump can never do wrong. Hell no. I'm just saying like these are the guys that are actually talking about cleaning house where no one else So let's give them a chance and see what goes. Let's just see what what goes. But again, we talked about this yesterday. You can't just have Elon's not taking anything out. They have to pass a budget that actually takes that ████ out. So when they say Elon's taking all this ████ out, it's not passed yet. He's just recommending what they're going to do and then they have to approve it. So we'll see what happens with that, but it's not we'll, you know, it's big it's all up in the air until it gets passed. But I do think the consensus on the other side though is uh he's already gone too far. Like they're already acting pretty crazy and and and it's just going it's getting out of hand. Well, like I said, polling says
22:00 70% of people support the doge thing. I feel like if if Dems had their way, nothing would have happened this entire month. Nope. They would have just kept things going the same thing same nothing would have happened. Yeah. We would we would have all been told the same thing that everything's cool, let us handle it. It's all chill. I do have this feeling that there's actual hope for change. Like legitimate change. Yes. For once in a very long time. The change we were hoping for with Obama, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I didn't think honestly in my lifetime I'd ever see somebody audit the government like that. Yes. Same. ████ awesome. One of the sickest things to ever happen. Well, they had the That's where the hope stems from. They had the office to do that, but they weren't doing ████ Nothing. Yeah.
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