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Japan Has a Bar for People Who Are Thinking of Quitting Their Jobs

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0:00 When you realize where you are and you just go, "This is all it's ever going to be." What's the ████ point, dude? What really is the point? >> I do think family helps with that. Have you seen this, Joseph? What is that? Japan has a new bar just for people thinking about quitting their jobs, and the drinks are for free. >> What? How do you prove you're thinking about quitting your job? >> Right. Where does this come from? I don't get it. Wait, Japan has has a new bar just for people thinking? I don't know. You mean like >> a thing, right? People are stressed, obviously. It's like a very stressful place. >> Quitting a job's a big thing out there because um a lot of places won't let you. You know what I'm talking about? Okay. Here it's like you quit,

0:50 and then they're like, "Sure." And then or like, "Whatever." But you put in your 2 weeks, and then it's like if they if someone tells you no, you're like, "What do you mean no? Like I'm ████ quitting." >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of companies there won't let you quit. So how's that work? They Well, okay. So Is it like I'm trying to cancel my cable? And they're like, "Are you sure?" >> Probably. Yeah. >> So we'll do 50% off. >> Work culture there is if a company loses too many employees, then people look at the company and go, "Something's going on where maybe it's not a good company." >> have your house in order. Let's shop elsewhere. Wow. So it makes your company look bad. And then so for them, they're like, "Ah, you know what? Why don't we just like try something else?" And I've seen this, too. I've worked for two Japanese companies, and there's a lot of like

1:42 people that shouldn't be there. They just move them to a different department. They don't give up on people, but also like they expect a lot from people. So it's it's kind of a weird relation Like I just don't get it. But that that is a thing out there. They don't want you to quit. If you quit, it makes them look bad. So, if you put in your two weeks, they're like, "Nah." They could refuse. Wow. >> And you could quit if you want. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then, it's really hard to get another job. >> Cuz when people call about your resume, it's like, "Hey, he quit. That's We don't like that." >> Yeah, but over there, it doesn't look good when you hop too many companies. They see you as a disloyal ████ So, they're like They like lifers. Yeah. So, like, you know how out here, they're always poaching employees? >> Head hunters exist for that. And it's good for your career because every couple of years, you're probably going to get a higher salary, right? But over

2:32 there, it's like "Oh, if you're willing to do that, you're going to learn some secrets here, and you're going to expose us to the next company." Cuz they do that ████ too. They'll Do they have non-dis- non- What do you call it? Exclusivity ████ I'm sure, but that s███'s easy to Non-compete? >> Non-compete, thank you. >> or whatever. I'm sure, but they they know how to So, you can't get a job in the same field right after kind of doing that. Cuz we have that out here. >> I'll I'll give you an example of how like it works out there. So, like, um companies are like your family, basically. So, like my last name, Jitsukawa, is a fishing company. And then, everyone that can trace that last name traces it back to this to the same company, whether they're blood relatives or not. It was like your family. So, your last name became that, right? So, people have

3:22 more loyalty to the company than they do to like other ████ So, like, my one of my bosses, um he had a childhood friend that worked in a competing company, and he ████ his ass over. And I was like, "That's some disloyal ass ████ dude." But like I I guess it's common because once you join the company, that's like "Hey, man, it's like being a cop and a robber, right? That's like, 'Hey, we could be friends from high school, but this is my gang now. Like, this is my thing.'" And then, I'm just like, "That's ████ crazy." So, it's really hard for I think the American mind to comprehend like how much they are down for their company. Cuz out here, we're like more like, ████ off. Like, it's about me. >> Yeah, we hop all the time. So, like the CEOs out there, um on the flip side, are not like here where like if the company's suffering, they get like a big

4:12 bonus and then they get millions and run away. They don't do that. So, like out there, like when there's a recession or whatever, the CEO of like Japan Airlines or whatever will rent out like some of the floors so they can make more money. He'll take a pay cut and then like he'll work with his staff. And then like he'll reduce his office size. He'll He'll reduce his own paycheck before he cuts people out of the company. Better honor. Yeah, but there's also um optics. So, if you don't do that, like so in Japan, like let's say if they acted like an American CEO and then they took hell of money and then they did that. Like, they're um they work in solidarity out there where they're like the rumor spreads and then they're like, we're not buying from this one. Oh, yeah. And it's like overnight that company crashes because no one would spend with them anymore. So, that's where the power is,

5:03 I think, when it comes to um What do you call it when it's like when you when there's accountability? Oh, okay. Yeah. Like over here, it's like it doesn't matter. Like a lot of companies can act like that because the citizens don't do nothing. Like, we'll just still spend and say, "Oh, well." Right. I don't know. I just think there's there's a little bit more. So, for that, it's a I'm just throwing the context of how I guess How to frame it. How to frame this. Yeah. Quick like a quitting is such a big ████ deal. >> yeah. That's good framing for this. Yeah. So, then you know the importance of it. But, that is pretty funny. >> understand why it's the drinks are free just because you're thinking about quitting. Shouldn't they be free after you've quit? I assume it's a gimmick to get people like to drink a couple and they have to pay it still, I assume. I don't I don't think it's all free the whole time. Oh. Or maybe you pay a cover to get in.

5:54 I don't know, it could be like >> But do you think it's a total gimmick the all the all the way through and through? It might be a way for like, come over here and then talk to me about quitting your job. Here's a Here's a safe place to talk about it. >> Has that climate changed at all? Cuz I know that's like the classic way is today's Japan exactly the same or less nobody quits? No, well the today's Japan is like Gen Z all across the world where they're opting out of society and not trying hard. >> Oh, so there's just less people working? >> The ████ that we see with Gen Z here that's like, ████ it I'm not going to get a job. I'm not going to do all this ████ Yeah. >> They're seeing too. Wow. But there is a phenomenon called like Well, basically it uh it's like overworking till death. Yeah. They work so many hours that they just drop dead at the workplace. Why come nobody wants to be debt slaves no more? That's a good question.

6:44 >> what I mean? >> Yeah. There's another service that they have out there too where um they help you it's kind of like witsec where like you can you can basically just disappear. Wow. So like they'll start you off with a whole new identity, whole new life. >> Wow. And then you just abandon your workplace and your children and everything. >> Oh, damn your family too? Yeah. What the Dang. You could just disappear and then start fresh. >> shot at it. >> What do they say? Like he went boating. You know how it goes. Yeah, what do what what you can pick your alibi. Trying to catch a salmon, it was too ████ big. They just set you up with a whole new life and then you just disappear. Damn. And it does It's not like you committed a crime or anything like that. It's just people that they're too ████ to quit their jobs or So that's not is that's not illegal to

7:34 do? I'm sure it is. You got debt and ████ to deal with. >> [laughter] >> I mean running away from your family's not illegal here, right? But But like not dealing with your bills and just bailing on all those things and having a new identity is But let's say that you don't have outstanding debt, right? You just like bail your family. You get a new identity. Let's say that the government finds out after like a year that you're not you know, Joe Jitsukala, you're actually someone else. Does that like do you get charges for that? Are you like >> Yeah, that isn't that identity theft or fraud? Kind of. >> Yeah, it would just be like fraud. Japan has that same thing. I I would I would assume so. It's pretty like similar in the way that they have laws. >> It just seems so easy to find out people are are doing that with today's social media. Yeah, but they have fake ID. Like it's probably easy to fake your identity in Japan. Oh, cuz

8:24 they all look alike. >> [laughter] >> I just think people it's a high trust society where they don't check your documents. >> Oh, that's true. That'd be kind of weird, right? >> No one has fake I mean fake IDs and ████ Like you just say who you are and then they're like, okay. Yeah. So it's easy to get like fake documents, fake whatever. Yeah. And then just cuz I don't think it's a common thing. So yeah. But that's how much they want to leave their life. >> That's how ████ they are, huh? And then they're too ████ to like off themselves. That's what most guys do. They just off themselves. >> what's crazy? Cuz you know like in Japan the suicide rates are ████ insane. I wonder what the rate is of people that just couldn't go through with it. Yeah, cuz they're the ones that'll buy that service. God damn, dude. >> Yeah. >> Imagine if it's just everyone else. >> [laughter] >> 100% of the country just wants to end it all. Dang, dude.

9:14 >> funniest thing to me right now is like the romanticization of Japan where like everywhere you look, everyone's traveling there. Oh, it's heaven. It's perfect. >> So well kept, it's so clean, everyone's so respectful. Like all the ethics, all the morals are good. Yeah, that's why everyone wants to ████ off themselves. >> What the heck, dude? Same with Korea. What's the deal with that? >> Such a great country. Yeah. Yet all the famine-stricken areas of the freaking Africa, they're multiplying like crazy. And they're happy as ████ >> LA being dirty doesn't make people happier, though. >> [laughter] >> Well, white people are are not multiplying at a rate that's very good, either. That's true. All these like, yeah, countries that everyone goes, "Oh, well, Scandinavia's like ████ perfect, and so is Japan, but like they all aren't having kids, and they're all disconnected. They don't have community." Meanwhile, you go to like

10:05 ████ Thailand, everyone's dirt ass poor, but they're happy as ████ dude. They all have like five kids. Yeah. >> Even just like Hispanics in South Gate. Yeah. They just have parties all the time. >> I'm like, wait. Raiders. >> [laughter] >> Raider nation. >> Raiders. Lawyers. Lawyers. >> Lawyers, brother. >> Ah, bro, they got a lot to be >> Repeat lawyers. Yeah, maybe that's who they should really ████ study. Like, why are you guys so happy? Why are you guys in ████ City Terrace so happy? Right. Instead of like Scandinavia, and Korea, and Japan. Yeah. I've been Southeast Asia, these kids were wearing a potato sack. Like, literally ████ a burlap potato sack, and I was like, you kids are having the time of your lives, dude. Well, meanwhile, you're in Japan, same age kid is studying his ass off, no ████ life. >> And smoking cigarettes.

10:55 >> I know, right? >> what the equivalent of this would be? They should make a Boyle Heights bar where the drinks are free for people thinking about getting a job. >> [laughter] >> Thinking about getting employment. I'm thinking about working. YEAH. NO! >> I THINK IT'S TIME TO get back in there. >> [laughter] >> Let's say. I'll be tight. Dude, so I have an uncle, his name is Uncle Bob. Not the one who died of AIDS, I have another uncle named Uncle Bob through through marriage, through Nikki. Uh-huh. And he has one one hand. So, like he's like he had his hand machined off of him when he was in a plant when he was a kid. Yeah, and Clean, just a nub. >> Just a nub. Just like at the wrist, nub. So, Uncle Bob is like kind of retired. But, he is such a work guy that he just can't like say like stay home and chill. And so, Uncle Bob

11:46 um he volunteers at the Angels basically and does like you know, security at the Angels. But, like how much security can do with with a nub and and like left hand? You know what I mean? Like but to him it's better than sitting at home. >> Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I just respect that kind of guy. Yeah. Who's like I'm I'm I still want to get after it. Yeah. And like I have every excuse in the world, but I just still want to do stuff. >> Heck yeah, dude. >> Well, you know what's weird about it too is like uh about like long life and like enjoying everything. In Japan, they're supposed to have a lot of um centennials. So, people living to like hundred something, awesome life. Oh, centenarians. Yeah, like but the contrast is crazy. So, you have like hella people off themselves and they don't want to live anymore. And then you have these like people that are like a

12:37 hundred something and they're having a blast. >> does make sense though. It's like in in countries where it's such a rigid line to the top or you know, the proverbial top. When you realize where you are and you just go this is all it's ever going to be. What's the ████ point, dude? What really is the point? >> I do think family helps with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, they've separated the ████ out of the family pretty bad. It's like here where like everyone's just working and no one's connected. >> But then like that's the thing. It's like you have family, but you can't even enjoy that. >> Yeah. You know? >> Yeah, they go through life where yeah, the dad's at work all day. Yep. And then now like Yeah, it's too There's no relationship with your kid. Kid's studying all day till 8:00 p.m. Yeah, kid's probably just doing the junior version of you. Just stressing in school, killing themselves if they fail

13:27 the test? Dude, yeah, it's ████ whack. I think I had such a big family growing up that I sort of appreciate that I get so little family time throughout the year now that cuz I appreciate it more. You know what I mean? >> So like cuz I live in Vegas, my dad lives in New York with my sister, my mom lives in San Diego, Yeah. my brother lives in Missouri, my other brother lives in ████ Seattle. So it's like when we all do get together, it's like that's tight. Whereas before I used to take it for granted like nonstop. >> Yeah. So I think there's something beautiful to like scarcity in a way. And it's like when you take away the element of surprise and there's no more left and it's just you already know what tomorrow is and the next day and the next day. God damn, dude. Well, I'll ████ kill myself, too. No, for real. They're all They realize they're just droids. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Like I don't want to be a robot. >> You're just on a track, you know? But

14:18 the drinks are free. >> [laughter] >> Let's go, boys. Yeah, that's nothing to help suicide than being drunk. >> [laughter]

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