0:00 thank you [Music] so here's a dilemma that I think we've touched on it a little bit before but this is a kind of a better example I don't know which side you can be on this but it is very interesting I'll be on the right side dude all right it's it's called the African elephant debate all right dude I'm out does that have to do with poaching because I'm out dude I think that's just one documentary of the African elephants we're following their lifestyle they have babies it was so cute right and then um one got like separated from the herd when they went to drink water yeah and they were all going this way and this guy was going this way he is following them but he's just straggling behind and then the documentarian was like without his herd
0:50 he will probably die alone you ████ face why don't you tell him to go the other way you can see just help him can't interfere with nature dangle carrot for him you know so uh I was so mad there's this guy his name is Randy matsumi he's a professional hunter in Africa oh and um he's talking about how uh the innovation of organized trophy hunting answered a lot of problems for the residents in African regions like because like the elephants would come and eat their exact farms and plants the way that we see elephants over here we're not part of their Villages or towns yeah we just see them as save them right that's kind of like of course American mind right we all just want elephants to live and be fine um I just want them for the tusks yeah I hear it's real good real valuable that's
1:43 all I see I just see piano keys yeah they're chess pieces I'm a little bit different oh Colleen you love chess right yeah so uh Randy he's kind of trying to point out something that hurts his community and it's the Western meddling with uh the country's Affairs and he calls it colonial style where they are trying to force their values on the system there we're there it's the American way yeah where they're saying like no it's not a good thing to hunt these animals but prior to that they were just being poached anyway and when you poach an elephant what happens is you waste most of the elephant and also you're shooting it with guns that where most of the shots aren't even fatal so some of these elephants don't go down and they just have bullets in them but then if you
2:33 keep eating my stuff my corn then I I don't have I run out of corn yeah but also the African people also use all of the elephant when they have yeah oh that's really good yeah so uh it's a lot of meat what they do is they'll commission certain guidelines among people that can come and Hunt specific numbers of elephants and specific elephants themselves they're gonna watch the living for a long time and go that is at this age it's okay to take this one out it's not like a baby elephant or something and uh a lot of the time if an elephant attacks a village or eats too much like crops like you said they'll be like okay this elephant is a nuisance we need it's okay to take this one out and when they do it the the hunter the professional guy will take you along let's say you're the guy that's uh yeah you're the you're the cool guy from America that wants to do a trophy hunt he'll bring you along you get your shot
3:24 he's aiming to if you don't get a fatal shot oh you will do it oh yeah so that there's no suffering that's really good well no one actually looks into the Nuance of these things right they go why are you killing Dumbo you ████ ████ face ████ yeah and and also you also think like I don't know what it is but when you look at animals that we don't have here we just assume they're endangered some of these areas have 150 000 elephants whoa it's not like it's not enough I think there's like 10 or something but uh they're starting to do these bands on trophy hunting from the other countries so not in Africa but like in the UK they're trying to say you can't bring back the trophy hunt you can't bring back all these like symbols so it's making less people want to go out there anyway because they can't bring back the whole point is to like bring back the thing and also that's the thing that they don't use so
4:16 a lot of the time yeah it's an old law from um ivory trade yeah from poaching and endangered species and things like that so there's a lot of that remnants still around where people think like um your if you buy anything Ivory whether it's like whale elephant you're contributing to the poaching Black Market yeah and so there's a lot of illegal ████ like that yeah you can if you let's say you do a legal trophy on let's say you do it from America you do go through this paperwork where you can bring all those items back and it's okay but now okay but there's taboo social stigma because people are uneducated even people that hunt like deer or elk in America people look down oh there's a new thing where in the UK you can't even do that well people in the UK are just stupid so
5:07 they're probably trying to hunt with knives or something they want to discourage it entirely they don't like the idea of somebody going to Africa but then that's what he's trying to say he's like if the more you do that he's he's afraid and this is a kind of a crazy hot take he's like if you don't let these nations trophy hunt in Africa then those Hunters that are going to come are going to be from less scrupulous Nations do you know what that's kind of saying yeah gonna be a bunch of pirates no he's saying basically that they like the way that westerners and um people like English people or UK people are going to come and do the trophy hunt there's at least a level of respect because they've been doing it so long that there's an understanding of what it is but if it becomes all China
5:57 or some ████ that's all those guys aren't that's not the same idea like they might just go out with machine guns and go this is more easy the value system of what what those things are going to be used for is a lot different and they kind of like what they have going now like it's like the Avatar thing because they killed them to to like uh and then they kill them fast yeah yeah it is like that there's like a I mean that's kind of like how um so there's an invasive like species the hog like in Texas yeah yeah it's all over America they um anywhere the hog was introduced they ████ up the natural land and all that stuff and so it's invasive species and it's hurting the like ecological system but there's a lot
6:47 of animal rights activists that are against killing any animal for whatever reason right but um yeah I mean like but then it's hurting the other animals and the native plants and the native things and then what about that Randy matsumi's main point was pretty ████ hardcore he goes stop putting animals higher than the African people that was my take on environmentalism I actually think a lot of groups are hella racist because they value the animal more than the natives in the local population because they actually do get so much money in like it is no secret that Africa is gonna have a harder time just getting getting Revenue in yeah right like it's they don't have as much of the infrastructure as most like First World countries might and if they're developing something here where money's actually coming in and their
7:37 lives are getting better and then that's getting slowly cut off because of value systems that are foreign to them people with good how do you do it there's like people with good intention that's ruined a lot of things in Africa for example like like clothing donations right they destroy whatever economy they had left for local manufacturers of clothing right because what they'll do is like they just get because there's too much they'll dump so much product of shirts and pants and whatever and then it would just all these people were like well I don't have any use for it anymore same with um they did this with this church organization did this with eggs so they're like hearing about this country that had um you know not enough food or whatever
8:27 and then they're like well let's give them eggs because eggs have protein they're easy whatever so they just collected all these eggs and ████ shipped it over and it destroyed whatever egg industry they had in this country wow and now they became dependent on um handouts because it's like if for let's say 10 years you're just getting a steady flow of non-stop food yeah then it's like well how are we gonna be self-sustaining and then all of a sudden let's say these churches have a different initiative because like we supplied them with a million eggs yay okay now let's do this to Cambodia and then like they're like all of a sudden they're like oh ████ where are we gonna have eggs now they're they're cutting us off so it's like people don't think ████ through and like how these things can damage they probably have a good it
9:19 starts from a good place but they don't research how it their actions can actually hurt yeah give a man a fish he will be today he's a man of fish the the other man will be a little tired laughs
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