0:00 cuz I feel like a lot of people categorize me as like oh you're all right but like I trained for 1 month never really done anything ever you know well if you do do it again just get 50% up front yeah dude get that 25k in that bag dude yeah I'm going do get 150% up front and then you give them back the [Laughter] [Music] 50 welcome back to a followup of a careful Boys episode where today in the seat and in the house we have just Michael over here we was just finishing the conversation in the last OTR about your fight that you had a celebrity fight between Tik tokers and YouTubers and you went against FaZe Jarvis is that right yeah yeah so so tell us how that fight went yeah so okay so long story short uh Austin McBroom came to my house like 3
0:51 months before the fight about just randomly like ding dong and you're like who's that on your ring camera like that's exactly how it went and then and then he pulled through and at the time this was when like I remember too this was like obviously when I was like up there so he came with like a bag of like 25 G's but it didn't I was like a tight move huh I was like I was like okay this is this is kind of like in like a Whole Foods bag or what kind of it's just in the backpack I was like I was like cool okay that's how he rolls did he give it to you no he didn't give it to me oh no what he just showed you yeah I thought it was like check this out put it back on that should be in advance if he's ask if he's asking you to fight for him he's like fight on my promotion here's 25k I only remember actually I'm not going to lie to be honest though 25k is not that
1:41 much in like bands yeah yeah not if it's all $1 bills Jo two and a half stacks I had 3 months to basically train for the fight and uh two out of those months the first two months I didn't have any trainer cuz I was trying to find someone to to help train me but they didn't give us any trainers and all that stuff and the person that was training like the ticktockers I I just didn't feel like it was it was right for me like it just didn't feel the right was out in Florida no no oh wait what say during this time were you out in Florida no this was in LA was it seven Goose boxing gym was that who was training all the remember but there's 7,000 boxing coaches out here though yeah there's a lot I I I didn't find the right one and then by the last month I found someone that I really enjoyed so that that last month I
2:32 trained every day but yeah did that one month and then everything happened and then it was pretty much downhill from there damn would you do it again yeah I would dude you should do it under him but you'll do it again if you get paid I'll do it if I get paid and if I feel confident like they didn't pay you they didn't pay so you mention you mentioned that $400,000 is on the line right how did that come up in conversation uh you guys didn't sign nothing like like my no we signed something the thing like awesome room he super snaky he ████ put it under like his his uh company thing where it's like oh like we don't we didn't make enough money of this and that and we had a clause in my contract where it was like no matter how the event does I should get paid but he finessed it to where so if he bankrupts it it's like he can't exactly it's like oh I don't have money if I'm B yeah exactly so is C you signed up this guy comes up with a $225,000
3:24 advance doesn't give it to you then you sign up for this fight says $400,000 online whether you win or lose and you have closet says regardless of fact you get paid M you go in there you get knocked down one time the ref ████ calls it and you don't get paid yeah damn that's ████ did anyone else get paid only Bryce because he had a contract specific I guess with him directly opposed to the company oh that was his event are you in Austin still friends no way huh they're best friends I me showed up at your house I was like he must be no no he just showed up for the one time so wasn't it was it what was it like five Tik tokers five YouTubers I think it was like five or six yeah so that out of like ████ 10 plus people no one got paid one person got paid yeah so Al wait that's the one with Alex right no Wasabi no we were the one before that I think the first one oh
4:14 was Graham Stefan on your car no cuz I know Graham Stefan was in 2 wait Graham Stefan did did a boxing match I would say we were the event that started all of them oh okay okay okay who did Austin McBroom fight that night Bryce Hall oh God that was that was that was the one where he the meme was like oh I'm not a fighter I've never claimed to be a fighter but like the whole promo was like I've fought so many fights like that whole thing y haven't seen he's the C A Different yeah yeah and he's the guy who organized it and didn't pay nobody yep well cuz I really like fighting so when I saw like cards where it looks like no offense to you but when I saw cards when like everyone else just looks like a clown it doesn't really attract me unless the story Line's good like like Jake Paul kind of like made me become a fan of his fights in the
5:04 beginning I was he's just another clown too but he's so good at marketing that you get sucked into the narrative that now I'm like I actually want to see him fight and I want to see how he does I mean they make a lot of money now because especially because of the yeah people like when they look at fights they don't care about the fights they care about like the person I guess that's more important the story the drama when I heard about like um I I doubt it's going on now but like the Elon versus musk like them possibly doing a boxing fight versus musk is good he's fighting yeah zuer yeah that would have been good and they were talking about doing it at the Coliseum that's ████ hilarious so crazy real I think they couldn't agree up uh on the streaming terms cuz one wanted to do it on uh Twitter the other wanted to do it on Facebook and yo but the funny thing is
5:55 like how Zuck was like like calling out musk for ducking all the time that was pretty funny I don't know yeah I I mean he yeah Elon doesn't train so I was just like you see over here Zuckerberg he's like winning like doing actual things he's about it yeah yeah I was like a there's no way if everyone's like oh he's going to have the neuralink and he's going to ████ oh yeah so what what what weight did you fight the Jarvis at I was one 135 holy ████ 138 something around there it's pretty damn light and that's all in the contract like you got to make I how many gloves was it 12 or 14 I think it was 12 I I could be wrong though we didn't have headgear though what was your first sparring session like how did that feel yeah especially if you never fought before I I I only the I only fought my trainer but he just keep it
6:46 was like it was like a beat down yeah yeah yeah I had like a couple like oh okay hold on and then got two cocki when you got knocked down did you tell your trainer see you ████ suck dude no when I got knocked down I was just pissed I was like more frustrated cuz like I knew the consensus of like social media already like I was already the underdog so like I was and you know that's going to be instant meme now yeah 100% because it was like oh this guy from fortnite oh 200 whatever whatever the ████ the the fortnite terms are so I already felt that and then when the contact came out and all that stuff okay so long story short first round happened the end of the first round my contact came out cuz I got I got clipped and I was like -4.75 so that means like I can't see anything clear after like here so like one was clear one was here so it
7:37 was just very like I was like super you can't do a timeout somebody put a contact no I I tried they were like nope nope you can't you didn't practice like grabbing fishes out of water like blind fighting yeah cuz like when Van Dam got pepper in his eyes he he kept fighting bro are you too young for a blood SPO I would have I would have but they did the stoppage and I was I was he's too young for blood sport if he watched Blood Sport he would have fought blind make sure you get your coach gets you a koi Pon to fill it up with KO your coach should have took a bandan put it around your eyes and sent you out he should have done the kickboxing rout too ████ dip your gloves and ████ glue and then diamonds and ████ diamonds I don't want to keep the diamonds no yeah at least you get paid that time know where were you when you found out that you weren't getting paid and how did that feel it was like a few months
8:28 after it was like a long delay like oh we'll get it handle we'll get handled we not going to get handled ████ you never went like ████ better have my money no I tried but like couldn't do anything about it did you talk to other Fighters too did you get paid and then they're like yeah no one got paid we're like no we didn't get paid what makes you want to do it again if you didn't get paid like what's the draw for the second one I I really enjoy like feeling like I can kind of like do anything I put my mind to on some like cliche but like realistic like I really like I I've never wanted to be in like a and I felt like that was an opportunity for me to just try something out cuz I I feel like I'm a hard worker so it feels like an adventure like a big challenge I mean it's like it was something I've never I I was never going to be able to experience that you know like other than that kind of like situation so if I did it again like I would want to have like that Underdog Story again where it's like all right I did this but it was
9:18 like for one month this is how I actually am you know cuz I feel like a lot of people categorize me as like oh you're all right but like I trained for one month never really done anything ever you know well if you do do it again just get 50 % up front yeah dude get that 25k in that bag dude yeah I'm going do get 150% up front and then you give them back the 50 I got to start doing that sounds way better no right now I feel like my focus is on the dance world like I really want to try to see how I can like make a make a make a splash in the Dance World make my money there and then when I'm chilling like that could be like a side quest yeah for sure is your main source of income through Tik Tok and sponsorships yeah for now right now so when you say like make money through the dance world what do you mean by that like how do I I hear this a lot from
10:08 dancers is like it's hard to make money as a dancer so I'm just like figuring out like and and if you're not doing I guess shows or like uh like like you know the the what is that the ████ um the the not the kjas but the Yeah Yeah with their own show like a booking commercial like their own show or like or like music videos or like whatever the tip of his tongue dude he was trying to get it out you got to say another group to think I'm in a social media fight every day here also not you're well respected here Anthony come on um so for the dance world I I I do feel like they're undervalued so like I'm trying to make a change where like one I feel like I'm I'm like in this good opportunity where like I'm in the dance world but I'm also
10:58 in the social media world and there's not a lot of people that do both and I kind of like one I want to make like my own thing so I'm trying to I don't even know what I should say until it's official but like I'm talking with steezy right now okay I might be you know doing some type of partnership with them and then for my social medias for like my dance Channel I want to kind of be like the Mr Beast of dance so think of like squid games sh well dance but dance Edition you know like how dancers go up against each other type of thing oh okay would basically put those together I have connections with labels I'm already talking to so I would start my own campaign SL content with like just new stuff that people haven't seen cuz Dan hasn't especially on on social media it hasn't been like updated like it's all kind of the same stuff like dance classes dance tutorials dance concerts like everyone
11:48 kind of has a rinse and repeat model yeah there there's no new content there's no like elevated stuff which is really weird to me you know because like dance it it it's literally like the front face in thing of like entertainment so like if I were to have this Powerhouse of like this Empire behind me maybe I could like start a union one day and like make sure like people are paid correctly cuz I feel like dancers they get paid like paycheck to paycheck and it doesn't even cover rent for like a month in La you learn all this ████ during screen printing yeah I mean cuz I I was like I was getting paid like a hundred bucks for a music video in Miami you know so I was just like this is not realistic cuz there's no Union for dancers yeah dancers Alliance you know what I mean but that wasn't really established till much later and I also feel like that only works in one sector of like the dance like yeah commercial work but like
12:38 the whole world doesn't revolve around like the LA scene as well yeah like 90% of my ████ income doesn't even come from La you know so it it doesn't apply yeah I just also feel like the whole like thing about dancing is like people they're used to like they this is like what they were given so they don't like try to push the boundaries for it so like if they have to do Patricks they're going to they're going to accept the job for whatever pay they are or like get treated the way they are I just heard so many bad stories about it and want I hear like pay rates for like being on like really big shows it's just like it's really weird yeah I think Dan focus on their not saying this is a bad thing but they focus on their Artistry more than the business aspect and their Artistry is the business so like trying to find a a bridge that you know is able to bridge that gap between those two is
13:28 hard to do especially if everybody's we're sensitive you know yeah but that's like that with every um industry like actors cuz even like like like a personal trainers the could be the exact same one at a 24-hour fitness knows the same amount as the guy with 5 million subscribers and this guy's making like 20 bucks an hour and this guy's making a couple Mill like him yeah it's and they know the same it's just one knew how to like transform what's in his brain into a business that's crazy yeah but right now I feel like there's no one on the like the the Pinnacle of dance like there used to be like should I say his name yeah just say it so there was this guy that's he's he's off the grid now because of like sexual allegation like really bad ████ with his stuff putting out there what's his name um uh Willer Beast you know I'm a beast the company
14:19 it was like the biggest Dance Company in the world know well it got crashed down like crazy tons of people came out to talk about it all of that stuff and I feel like right now there's no one there there's no one that's taking over like the dance social media is all kind of like everyone's freefor all or like yeah and I'm like oh I can I can do that let me let me kind of so there's no like big Kingpin of dance that's what I feel at least you you may think that from the outside perspective but from the inside perspective it wasn't all that for like them being on the top of like the dance Pinnacle or like well I guess I'm meaning more in the social media aspect cuz as a business it could have thrived like they had the views they had the numbers and all that stuff I know I know the business side very well I worked on it but I I I did hear it was like very flawed I don't know it was extremely
15:09 flawed yeah talk about it what are the flaws ████ where do I start you talk about the flaws you talk about the sexuality dividing might be the same thing there's a little bit of cross over there oh that affects business huh way well we'll have to have a private conversation I mean what I'm what I'm hearing from you is it sounds like regardless of their success or whatever but their perception was they were the elite and they have um they have pool cuz they have an audience and they're doing it on social media and they could have maximized that potential right 100% yeah so like they could have been broke as hell but you're saying like they they if they did it the right way they did it the right way they could have done it really well I see yeah so I feel like I think Dancers just suck with business so that's why you know I'm just kidding I don't know
16:00 that's why uh Anthony face you got to do it right I think I think um dancers do bring in so many views though it's crazy but I think like like how you said about longevity I think if you don't make a connection through words or like communication I think it's hard to follow someone um with physical movement and establish a more deeper connection um and I think that's why usually like some if it's music or something related like if you're a pop star plus you dance well or like dance is like an accessory to a musician or something and I or you're a group with like um like some kind of like what do you call it like a story and brand behind it and then people could be like yeah like I buy with K just cuz like you know like I
16:50 like how they are what they represent but then if you're individual and you're not speaking to the public I think that's that's really difficult to build a long-term fandom yeah I agree I agree that's why I'm trying to make dance long form that's the biggest thing cuz like if I talk about the story of like how that's why like with ABDC right with all these shows like you watched their Journey that's why you fell in love with these people instead of just the product you see the Journey of it and that's what I'm trying to do with like YouTube and stuff now too but yeah it's it's definitely it is always going to be like uphill battle though like no matter how like much you put like dance forward it's always still going to be like 50% of the product that you create because the other 50% is going to be the music so unless you're also the music producer or Creator and stuff like that you're going to be limited like that's why social media has always been like a Crux for us because you can monetize off of things you can build the same type of structures or or fight the same
17:41 algorithms you might be able to use some to your advantage and like ride off of the cailes of like a song's Fame but at the same time you're still paying more to the song than you're getting paid for it you know what I'm saying so it's like that's just kind of how the ENT like you could have a video that has a million views but then you technically made zero on it because it was a copyright yeah we have like so many videos online that have millions of views that we don't get paid for because it's it's copyright music you know what I mean so it's just that's just how it is but if you have a brand and you have connections to labels you can like kind of make a deal with them cuz I feel like some of them are coming around now with social Med you do got to be pretty ████ big and and and a lot of it is right place at the right time too because theyve Al it's a relationship right those record labels also have to acknowledge and be willing you know at that time but when we were coming up doing dance videos they were all like no like you us and suddenly like you know when new
18:33 social meds come and then the virality hits in a different way suddenly it's like okay maybe we should flip the script on this but then we're already like 5 years out the game you know what I'm saying so it's just a a just that's just the way the world works though you know yeah so they wanted us to shut down JK when we got on um In Living Color back then they didn't see YouTube as support like social media was not support for big channels that's crazy for them it was like Oh no you're competition we don't want you guys doing skits and any of that stuff uh and then we got on the show but you know we didn't even actually continue cuz we said YouTube is going to go further than TV and then they shot like a bunch of episodes it didn't even air so we made the right move yeah but In Living Color is a great it's a big brand it's like Matt TV you know it's like it could have
19:24 gone somewhere but I think you know the people that maybe made those decisions at the time they didn't have the future in mind and then imagine now if like they they brought a sketch comedy show and they brought all the best sketch like from you know reals to everything like YouTube and they brought everybody together might do really well yeah ████ dancing I right I don't think so I don't think so dude you know who the king of dance is Michael [Music] Jackson
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