0:00 [Music] welcome to another highly patriotic episode of careful boys today we have Joseph Ford thank you for your service Joseph Ford and also Baran thank you for your service both domestic especially and overseas in Korea yes listic funny it's like hey you ever been overseas and Bar's like yeah I have I did one tour in Korea yeah I like the idea of um now that we have both of you here why Marines why did you choose that if you could go back and do it all over again would you still do the Marines So my answer after talking to a bunch of friends that are in the Army Navy Air Force all that stuff um I think I would
0:50 do the Army Route because for for multiple reasons the first one is the Marine Corps is unnecessarily hard in the ████ beginning like even my friend Don he he ended up being a Raider and I was like yo you're a Raider and he he's uh dive certified all that stuff he even taught at the Marine Corps Water Combat school so he's been on the on the instructor side and I was like dude for someone like you boot camp must have been a breeze then he goes ████ no that ████ was hard as ████ and everything was just even more harder and I was like what the ████ and they adjust it so that if you look like you can do it they make you do something harder every time they do have they do have a a kind of like um not a system or like a philosophy of like no one gets away scotf Frey I don't know if you guys had it but for for us last you're going to push your body to
1:40 the Limit like the last two weeks of boot camp my drill instructor literally walked up and down he was like who didn't I ████ smoke enough in here and I'm like you fell through the crack you fell through he's like and they spent the last two weeks just hazing the ████ out yeah so it's like they just make sure everyone everyone gets it you can't like try to blend in huh you can't just like everyone everyone's getting it no matter what but then in the Army like what from what I understand people that are decently fit will cruise through boot camp pretty easily then if you want to go to the next level like let's say go to infantry or go to like jump school or Army Rangers or whatever it it gets I mean it gets incrementally hard so I feel like you don't get burnt out I think for me I always I was already burnt out after boot camp and I might have had the ability to do other things but I was checked out I was already like
2:31 man I'm already done with this ████ versus like had I did something else that I think that was like it boosts it up incrementally I would I think I would have gone further and probably would have stayed longer what about you for me uh the reason why I went is just cuz my boy said he was going to go to the Navy and I was just like oh no how about we just do the Marines they have the dopest uniforms the uniforms are coolest the dress blues right it looks man yeah man so I was just like yeah I'm I'm just going to go ahead and do that um CU you want to look flat me what a funny reason so for me I feel like uh I still have that mindset to where I like to like push my bodies to it to its limit as far as like endurance wise so I think that's why I would still choose the Marine Corps I just love that
3:21 aspect and then the camaraderie of it you know I feel like it's it's no other they have uh they treat their uniforms with the utmost respect I feel like out of all other branches so yeah cuz like even our physical fitness test someone that's like second tier on the Marine Corps physical fitness test is already A+ in all the other branches so everything's extra hard even the Coast Guard go through Marine Corps boot camp you don't have to go through any other boot camp in the armed forces but if you go through every other Armed Forces boot camp and you want to become a Marine you still have to go through Marine cor oh people like Hood hop like that I didn't know that was possible yeah people will transfer cuz they'll be in what do you do like you finish your Air Force ████ and you go you know what I be I want to be a marine now well cuz sometimes you have to go through the boot camp yeah cuz sometimes you'll work with other branches while you're in and
4:11 then you'll hear stories you're like oh that's really cool so I want to do that so like but if you're a marine and you go to Air Force you can go straight to the Air Force but if you're in the Air Force you have to go back through boot camp to become a Marine what did you guys think about why not National Guard I don't I don't know what to much about that yeah what do they do that's not the Army no that's a different is it called the Army National Guard it's a branch of the army but they technically serve the state out water during like hurricanes and ████ well right now aren't they uh in Texas the Texas guard fighting the federal yeah cuz they're protecting Texas yeah yeah if you were to like I want to do Coast Guard if you were to rank the military branches based off of one physicality and then two intellectual like intelligence how would
5:03 you rank the hierarchy of the military branches space force the smartest I don't even know those fools those are new I would say I would say probably Air Force is probably the smartest I think so yeah I think Air Force is the smartest as far as physically I would say Marine Corps cuz Marine Corps is L it's like it's really just a sport if you can if you can run jump and like a year physical fitness test oh you'll be you'll be oops you'll be good in the in the military definitely everybody will praise you if you can get a 300 on a PFT your whole career done so you how many years did you serve again it was years 10 years how was what was the difference from like year 1 and two to like 9 and 10 like in terms of what it was like for you so I I picked up rank pretty quick I got to E6 which is a Staff Sergeant at like five or six years W that's fast yeah so yeah well I was 343 you know the
5:55 I feel like if as long as you do well on your PFT you're doing like your classes and then and you have you know good Staffing seos that are looking out for you you can Excel through the ranks pretty quick but uh then the rank comes money mhm and then even your uniform changes a little bit what you get to you get like a badge you can wear the white pants instead of just the blue ones oh that's what that means you got two-one that's cool do you think the Marines is super hard because um I thought that Marines have to go in first like when there's an invasion like do they send the Marines first and then like a army stabilizes or like how does it work I mean they say that they send the Marines first uh like Marines are supposed to be able the reason why the Marines are so special is because they call us the president's own so we don't need a letter of Congress to be sent anywhere we can the president can just be like hey we need you here and we got to we
6:45 can be there within 48 hours around the world wow yeah I think in the traditional Warfare it was like that I think Marines were like the force that pushes and then I think the Army was an occupational Force but now Warfare is different they fight like there's a lot of like special yeah there's drones there Special Operations like before it was like Navy was ships specifically but now like everybody has everything like Army has their own ships because of their own missions then and navy has some of the best pilots in the world which doesn't really make sense but it's because they have their own missions Marines have Pilots you know like everyone kind of has their own little like uh Navy Air Force and like ground troops all within their own thing now so the way they fight Wars is a little bit different but yeah the Marines I think are tougher because it's the president's own and even like where the so the
7:36 president has his own secret um what is it called like sanctuary if he wants to get away from the white house that's where Biden goes all the time he's not supposed to be that much he's chilling there a little too but it's called it's called Camp David and it's Island and that's guarded by Marines too that's why yeah that's why it's the president everyy around the world is guarded by Marines yeah there's a and there's a lot lot embassies a lot of embassies how do you be a spy though which AR which which military division do you have to go CIA is it just CIA they have to say anything else if it's that known you're probably not that good of a spy when you get super up their seal Special Forces I think all of them have have their like cuz it's called intelligence right that's one of the things they do I feel like they recruit from like the top military branches so if you're in if you're in the top you
8:26 know Navy branch or in the top army or the top Marines is like you have an opportunity to go that route I feel like and what's crazy is like when you get when you look at the whole pipeline it's like you're here you go through Regular Boot Camp and then when you go to the next level you have to technically audition and try out again and try out again and try out again so even when you're like a top Navy SEAL Special Forces Recon whatever to get into CIA you ████ have to try out again it's ████ crazy I think people I think those people just like ████ pain or some ████ did you think did you serve like as much time as you wanted to you were like this is a perfect amount I served way more than I wanted oh really I wanted to do like 3 months want to do boot camp out fin you know when I joined my main goal was I ████ up in high school I just need some discipline I need to like just I needed like a ████ get back
9:18 get get your ████ together uhhuh do you think it helped your discipline for sure yeah for sure dude and you're like what you think you're capable of cuz I know hell guys that went to the Marines and came back and they still wake up at 4 PM dang that's pretty sick yeah it helps discipline it helps like what you think your ceiling is and then like also you go make your bed like hella crisp hella crisp hella crisp like tucked angles everything are you are you are both of you guys still like that when you make your bed down I still make my bed if me and him got teamed up and we had a bed making competition me and him are winning dude hands down hands down we'll be under to the blanket we'll be under the blanket I'll get elastic bands to TI the bottom sheet to the other sheet the the top is Hella Tight you guys don't even know who do you think will win Marines or Mexican Maids at the Arya Casino
10:08 Hotel in Las Vegas Marines all day really but there's also Blood on the sheets and you have to get uh vomit off car okay cleaning wise the Mage for sure that's too hard that's too hard how many years was it you served six six years and that was six almost he said it like too long long well how did you decide to that at the sixth year you were like what happened how did you decide like oh that's it at the sixth year how did cuz I had senioritis after like a year wait wait big question what was your first Duty station no so I was in the reserves so the my first unit is the same one I stayed at oh okay which is at Terminal Island that base is no longer there anymore but it's terminal Island where like San Pedro and Long Beach meet San ped okay okay yeah my first my first Duty station was the wing
10:58 and man it amazing yeah we had it so what's the wing the wing is like uh it's basically all the pilots yeah where all the pilots are and stuff like that it's kind of like its own separate entity from the grunts like if you're in a wing unit you know you're you're sitting pretty nice you don't got to go as crazy so like I started off in there and then I ended off in a grunt unit and I'm glad I ended in a grunt unit because I was a higher rank and I had like my own like crew and stuff like that so I just didn't let anybody ████ with my guys but if if it was the other way around if I would have started off in a grant unit I probably wouldn't have stayed in the military what's the downside to being in gr un uh more field Ops you got to deal with a lot of BS more it's called grunt yeah that's you mean those are infantry guys so like yeah whatever unit you're
11:48 at you're they have the unit has its own mission and how they're going to train so you get sucked into the training so because at a wing most people are Pilots so they're like really high ranking officers so they get a lot of benefits and that trickles down to the bottom troops they probably have better food better whatever you know better like like Libo everything like sharing the amenities yeah yeah yeah grunts their job is to be able to just go into the middle of nowhere and survive for 2 weeks and then it's less cushy so that's their life and then if you're at a grunt unit that's your life oh I see yeah like my my other buddy he like like my stories in Supply are way different than a lot of my other friends cuz my unit was Ango so they're like a special ops support group so as a supply guy I'm like why the ████ am I going on the field every ████ month I thought I
12:39 was supposed to be counting ████ but I'm went to the field like I I remember doing like cuz I already I was already burnt out so I didn't really like take it in I wish I did take it in but we would do like you know those CQB like kill houses and stuff cool and I'm like yeah it's cool when you think about it now but I'm like man why the ████ am I up in here doing this ████ ████ supposed to be counting are there a lot of other dudes with the same sentiment as you dragging their feet through the ████ like you can't be the only one there everyone's different everyone's like I can't wait to get that ████ Hellcat you know what I'm saying like they want to buy a car the ████ the Dodge Challenger or the other one's like oh I got Challenger the Mustang too is back then or some I just knocked the Chick Up I need any money I
13:29 can get like everyone has their own struggle okay and you always have that one Rambo there that can't that couldn't wait he's been wanting to be a military dude since he was three yeah there's some guys he's like clearing the room like it's the real life yeah there's some dudes like that there definitely is yeah damn what about like other times that you may have bent the regulations you know kind of like how how you snuck to Korea there other times that you guys did anything like that that was kind of nut have you I've done some crazy stuff but I'd rather stay there off camera hey but but is it as crazy as what he did uh not no not as crazy as him but I'm done some pretty cool stuff the life is nuts though like there's people like jacking off together in Barracks like it's just a different world you know and it's like it's almost
14:20 like I was expecting that well yeah cuz even Don told us that yeah you get used to a different Norm yeah even Don was just like you just do it like you just don't think about it what's the what's the type of like role or person in the entire experience that you like respect the most and then what type of person do you like respect the least like ████ bags yeah people that just act like ████ the whole time like there's people that never are nice they're just like no no they're they're just like people that just never really care they don't ████ they don't really know their job they don't like there there's a difference between like knowing your job and just like finding loot poles to get her like be like okay I can do this faster or I don't have to really do this but there's people that know ████ just like drag their ass 24/7 and then now you got to carry their weight yeah exactly exactly but everyone
15:11 loves the person that because they're on the team everything gets done better and faster everyone loves having someone like that yeah yeah yeah and where were you guys in that I I would like to say I think I I helped his heart said oh but then his actions were like I'm a good Chinese boy I can't stop it one of uh one of my bosses like like uh one of things he taught me that I led the most was he was like your job is to try to steal my job my job is try to steal the other guy's job and then if you can do my job he's like I'll make sure you get promoted and so I promoted pretty fast too and that mindset has always made me go like oh ████ okay so I as soon as I can I need to learn the next steps and do the next steps and then and because of that like anytime
16:03 that there was a a way to get out early we could because we already got all our ████ done MH and so like he was always down to like bend over backwards for us and stuff see but it's the people like that that made you want to work like that because you and you know you have people that just like no it's you know it's 4:30 on a Friday I want you guys to keep working like you're going to keep doing it and then you just kill them morale of the shot but if you have a person that's like yo if you guys Hur me get this done we can get out early and that was like one of the most enticing things for marine to be able to get off of work a little early that's a regular human thing yeah me to relate with that you know what I mean was there ever any thought of like like wanting to be a drill sergeant hell no hell they all have like no voices their boot camp is like boot camp on steroids and more steroids like it's
16:56 it's ridiculous like all of them go from like super big probably a little bit bigger than him to like skinny little Twigs lose their voice yeah because they run they get ran into the dirt yeah they're probably running 10 miles a day on their feet it's ridiculous going crazy and that's their boot cap I've seen a drill instructor so in order and it's crazy because you'll see a drill instructor getting trained by the actual drill instructor teacher uhuh and I've seen on U Marine Corp San uh Marine Corp Recruit Depot San Diego uh I've seen the drill instructors go through that training and they're getting slayed and they're probably the most fit people I've freaking seen and they're getting slay through that trainer I was just like once I saw that I was like yeah I'm I'm cooling that's what's crazy to me in my mind when I see like drill instructors and you see how like intense they are to know that at one point
17:47 someone was doing that to them and they were getting ████ on well that's probably the only way they can do it right it's crazy to think the hardest schools are that so like you have your job school then you have like instructor School right and then there's instructor instructor School the schools that make the instructors and those ones are like ████ 10 times harder than how badass is that guy yeah it's ████ yeah ████ he's probably like black bout fifth degree tab everything like just decked out crazy when when in your career would you would someone even consider becoming a a drill instructor like where does that even by like time you're a Corporal you probably go for your uh your B yeah what's that so you can you have three B bullets so like once you become a Corporal you have to do a b Billet um it's a secondary job yeah so you become either a drill instructor you become a
18:38 recruiter or you go on MSG Duty oh yeah you never want to be a recruiter no because I didn't really like recruiting people at all the one thing I wish I could have done was MSG Duty just because you get to guard the M's go around the world and stuff like that the MC's MSG Duty oh what's the thing you have to guard the embassies oh the embassies oh okay so all those that's one thing I wish I could have done in the military but I didn't have opportunity to you never wanted to be a spy no I was burnt out man I want to be a spy you say that until you go through the physical aspect of it what's one of those things that you don't got to ████ be so physically fit there's nothing yeah I think spies need to be Navy oh Navy but if you want to be a seal like you want to be in the Navy you
19:30 got Goan if they're going to trust you to no I was going to be on the ship and do the drone spying yeah but you got to be physically fit too on the Drone yeah for some reason you got to be physically fit everywhere drone by the way on the Drone all the special ops whatever Branch at the highest level have very similar standards just be undercover cop as like a spy and you can be fat that's true sometimes you need to be fat depending on just be a mall cop and spy on people that's true that's a good idea too or be a university cop oh I could blend in as one of the students yeah just as you get just as much respect and honor as these guys same
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