0:05 Is that >> Okay. What is a new story or something that happened in the last month that like made you feel genuinely like hopeless? >> News? >> Like it like when you saw it or heard about it. >> I am so Irena Zurutskas killer not being competent to stand trial. That huge. >> That's the girl that got stabbed up in the bus, right? By the crazy girl. >> not stabbed up straight >> Dude, that's crazy. Not competent to stand trial? >> And he already did that like so many other >> Yeah, but he's been com- he's been competent in how many dozens of other cases that he's had to like That's ridiculous. That made me feel hopeless. >> With the with the with the guy that killed the the the Asian grandpa in San Francisco. >> with that guy.
0:55 Same with him getting off. It's crazy. >> What's going on? >> that the guy that killed Vicha, yeah. >> The judges, bro. The judges are ████ >> Like what's the agenda? Like why are everyone at the same time like getting together and being like, "We're just not going to punish this ████ We're just going to make it easier and easier." >> And how does that make sense to get away with this, especially if there's a public outcry? Like cuz isn't that supposed to be a representation of like society? >> To I think that the Irena Zurutskas stuff got really uh politicized in the way that um like conservatives and Republicans were weapon almost weaponizing that as a torch. And and now the liberal side wants to be like, "You didn't get what you were trying to get." And they just like capped it. You know what I mean? >> What do you think about the Vicha thing with the with cuz that's not They're not using that. The Republicans aren't using it. It's a Asian
1:45 >> just restorative justice. I think the ████ I don't know, maybe the judge saw some kind of like ████ mercy play. And was just like, "Oh, like let's not jail this person." So stupid. >> Cuz he's young or whatever. >> I don't know. Was it Maybe the judge was the same race as the guy? It's a It's a so It's so like uh >> It's never about justice. Yeah, it's always It's always some other factor. >> Yeah, it's some weird compromise between like It that I'm actually legitimately hopeless about. >> I'm going to say the justice system not working. >> Yeah, the justice system. You would just think, you know? And also um one that got me hopeless lately was the ████ uh uh Rob Bonta, like his his wife is an assemblywoman, and she uh put forth that bill where um it's like the anti-Nick Shirley bill, where if you're looking into fraud, then
2:36 those people that are doing fraud have a right to tell you to delete the videos you recorded. You have to pay a fine for like investigating on your own. That's insane. >> right? That's a California bill, right? >> Yeah. >> [snorts] >> Like if you find Yes. Stop looking for fraud. That's crazy. >> That's to stop like other people from like basically doing the job of the state. You know? That's >> Like a vigilante. >> I never thought that we would be living in a world where that was a thing now. >> Are there people backing it? Like are there >> It just got moved up, yeah. >> Who's >> The Dems, yeah. They just moved it up. So now it's So now it's going to be seriously considered, yeah. >> Who wants to do that? >> They want to protect their own corruption. I mean, it's a great way to do I I understand the play. Like I get why they're doing it. >> like everyday citizens, right? Getting like who's on the side of that and what
3:26 they're doing. >> Lots of people just don't like They just don't like Nick Shirley. They don't like >> Oh, cuz because they don't like right-wingers or whatever. >> cuz there's two ways to There's a really staunch way of looking at it, and that's I don't like that this guy is meddling in the affairs of immigrant people. It like you can just see it that way. >> I see. >> You know? Cuz you can just think they're innocent, that they're not really doing fraud. >> And then they're just being racist. >> see it that way, then you know, that's it. >> Like stop the racist people from >> looks like they're being harassed and that they're not guilty or whatever. >> But as a lifelong Californian, we know all those rackets happen and no one does anything about it. >> a ████ racketeering enthusiast, I'm like I'm like dude, they're ████ doing it. But I guess it's one of those things where like some people do look at it and they go, "Everybody's doing it in government. Why just zone in on the poorest people that are getting ahead?"
4:17 >> I see. >> You know? So there's there's different sentiments. But then to make a bill to block it, the hopelessness in that is like, "Okay, so now you're taking away the ability of the people to like get to the bottom of, you know, corruption of their own government." Cuz that's not just for the ████ People are thinking of it like, "Oh, now he won't harass Somalis or Armenians." That's not just for them. That that goes for the whole government. >> That means like you can't do that for anybody. >> if that if it's a ████ like affluent white coalition of people, they are also invincible now. Like you got to look at it bigger than that. >> Why is it so many people that are on the stupid side? >> I think just like the like they there's some really smart plays where they really make something look like you're punching down when it's really the ████ an an uppercut of insane height.
5:09 >> Yeah. >> Like it's not punching down. The Vieja thing was really sad though. Cuz that's as plain as you can get. >> I actually Yeah, that just further made me think that no one cares about Asians. Like there's no >> I don't give a ████ >> sympathy or empathy. Like if crime happens, whatever happens, they're just invisible. They're like, "Eh, it's not that bad." >> Yeah, they don't give a ████ >> Yeah. Why you making us all sad and ████ dude? >> Cuz that's that's what makes love feel good too, you know? The pain has to be there. Come on, Joe, you know this. We can't just be out here joking about stupid ████ all the time. We got to reflect like grown men and have dialogue that's uncomfortable. That like that's uncomfortable because here here here's the truth truth about that. Like I didn't even know about the arena thing until right now that you shared that. Yeah. So like you know and as much as like we have to constantly be
5:59 like looking at news and stuff like that, there's still things that you somehow get slipped you know you don't pay attention to. Learning about that is tragic but at the same time it's like damn. That's it's it's more important to be aware of like what you're uncomfortable with, you know? >> versus just like run away from it, right? >> So since we're just kidding news, how do we just kidding these things? >> How do we just You want to make fun of them? >> I think I think how you do it is is you change stop Asian hate. Just kidding. >> [laughter] >> Because that's what it literally is. >> the final nail in the coffin. >> Stop Asian hate. >> Just to the stop Asian hate movement. That's the final nail in the coffin. Vicha was the number one thing that was the symbol of why people wanted this and they didn't get it. >> He was the poster boy. >> off. >> Yeah. >> Of stop Asian hate. >> Yeah. >> And it does it's ineffective.
6:49 >> That's it. Yeah, that's all that's that's what they they wanted at least justice for that. You know like out of all the incidents, the like insurmountable amounts of attacks and murder, they were just like but this just one. Let this guy have his justice and they didn't even give it to him. >> I think vigilantism is going to start. >> But I don't I think I still hope and I I really really believe that Asians as a community are above that. I think Asians and I think this is I think it's arguably worse for other races. Asians are really ████ good at like oh you did that to us? Okay, we'll just never hire anyone who looks like you for any of these businesses we own. And all the opportunities we can give you, we'll give it to other people. They're really good at systemic racism as a response rather than violence, yeah. Rather than like be violent and like kick your ass or mug you or like you know kill your
7:39 grandpa, they're more like we'll just keep all of these blessings away from your people. >> Yeah. >> And that's where I'm like, ████ >> Solidarity. >> [laughter] >> I'm like, you guys don't realize like, that's worse for everyone else, you know? >> Yeah. They're like, you know what? You made me mad, I'm going to end your biology. You're not going to exist. >> And that goes for that's not just like Asians >> generations, you're not going to exist. >> Like if it was ████ Filipinos beating up Chinese people whatever, they would do the same they wouldn't just attack back and kill Filipinos they would just be like, all right now no Philippines in the trade relations. You know what I mean? That would ████ the country. >> We'll make sure that you don't get any supplies. >> Exactly. Yeah, or we're just going to fish your whole ocean out. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> You know what I mean? Like the real world application of like when people don't like you is bigger than they're
8:29 going to kick your ass. >> No more bangus breakfast for you. >> [laughter] >> That fried Filipino fish. >> Bangus, yeah. Bangus. Yeah. >> That's so gangster. >> What was the most hopeless thing you went through these days last month? >> Um this is uh I was just in Turkey, so there's the way that Europe can go to like dance camps is like completely different, right? Than like the United States as a whole. It's like there's so many countries within like a 45-minute flight radius. So you get a lot of like different countries and cultures and stuff that go to like, you know, a large event. So in Turkey there was a lot of different countries that were there. Um ironically there was also like a combination >> There was like there were Russians there and then there were also some Ukrainian students there. And and so I was just talking with some of like the students and the teachers afterwards and like
9:19 there was just such a like this like oh no like maybe we should cuz there's some countries that are in the middle that speak their maybe native language and Russian because Russians like connect to like a lot of different things or like they occupied a lot of different countries or whatever. So it's like they're like, all right, maybe we shouldn't speak this language because like these people are here and like there's ongoing things and it's insensitive to these students from this country. And which is very thoughtful and empathetic, but also very like man, these are just kids. You know, that love dancing. >> Yeah. >> And so the idea that like, you know, something that's happening that's so much bigger than them. >> They bring politics into like a 13-year-old's conversation. >> Yeah. Yeah, and we're like at a dance camp, but like maybe people the social dynamic between students now is like uh weird or everybody's on, you know, walking on eggshells because of things like war that like they are
10:10 obviously have no animosity towards each other. And it's just to see that in like a like a such a a niche, but also like real human place. It was just like, man, it's that sucks. And also, you know, it's coming from a place a place of like privilege, too, right? Like we're the ████ ████ Americans that like we're causing problems everywhere and we'll just fly around like, "Yeah, we're just tourists." And but like certain people like it's a much more complicated. Their opportunities are like actually changing because of like the things that their their countries are putting them through and it's like >> blown up. >> Yeah, it's just >> There's missiles. >> It's just interesting to see like children who just want to dance be affected by something like that. >> Yeah. That's crazy. >> But I get it, you know, again, like I think it's just it's it's lucky and easy for
11:00 us coming from a place of privilege to like sit back and watch stuff and not necessary almost like have time to think about it, you know? >> I was hopeless last week when it hit 90° but then got colder and now I'm hopeful again. >> That's good. >> Yeah. >> Thank you for sharing. >> He That's the weather cuz you know there was that heat wave, that random heat wave? It was so comfy. I was like, "Dude, March end of March is so comfy." And then a random heat wave came and I'm like, "No, not early this year." And then this week it's comfy again and I'm hopeful. >> LA's heat wave was worse than Vegas' this time. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're about to get uh they said the worst El Nino in the last 140 years. >> El Nino can't be that Nino anymore. That was a long time ago. He's got to be like El Macho now or some ████ >> LA's hottest and most humid LA summer in
11:52 the last 140 years. >> Oh, you know what's another thing that was kind of like oh piss is that you guys been seeing all this stuff with Cesar Chavez, right? >> Oh, yeah. >> Like I don't I just I'm so convinced now that there's just no historical figure that can ever just be. >> You know what I think though? This is what I think and this is might be a crazy take, but the way I think is if you want someone to change the world, they're going to have some crazy tastes. >> extreme person. >> They're going to be an extreme person. >> Crazy people do crazy things. >> Exactly. So, you're going to have to not excuse it, but don't be surprised when you found out that like Martin Luther King was a player player. You know what I mean? >> A ████ To relax. >> Yeah, to feel whatever he needs to do,
12:42 and that to me is like you got to feed the lion some goat sometimes if you want it to be a ████ lion. >> And also like it's it's a constant thing that like I guess like when you come to bipartisan politics, one side is always trying to take down the other side's leaders all the time. So, like whether or not you know, whether or not you care to look into your own heroes, the opposition does. So, eventually, you know, like like Robert E. Lee, like everyone the South loved him. Now he's ████ erased from history basically. They don't want to talk about him. Christopher Columbus, like everybody like is just gone. You can get so big and be this huge figure and then eventually someone chips away at it, finds a little new got, and then they're like, "All right, it's over." >> But is it his fault that he became so popular? Cuz some people just like they got a mission, you know? And they're just trying to they're just trying to fix just like people that are put on a
13:34 pedestal. Like sometimes they just like Hey man, this guy just sings good. Or like this guy just does a thing really hard or he cares about something that one thing. But then they like make him a mystical figure. It is like dude, that guy just does one thing. Like that's like >> [laughter] >> because he's a world famous juggler, you make this whole like honorable story behind a person. >> why I I think the motivation is not like oh my god, we found out this guy was scum. It's that someone's going oh my god, we found out your hero is scum. They're doing it against the other side. They're not just like looking into it just to make sure they're actually good person. >> Oh. >> Like Martin Luther King Jr. is not like the people exposing that are not other black people. You know what I mean? Like they're trying to do a gotcha on a whole community. And I'm like I'm just tired of that, dude. Like we get it. Everybody who has accomplished huge things are probably terrible people in other department. They have to make sacrifices
14:25 to do these like huge things. Whatever. Can we just let their accomplishments like live >> Some >> Some of the sacrifices are ████ up. >> Well, most of them are, but that's the thing. It's like we we're still living on the benefits that they gave us. Like Christopher Columbus might have been a piece of ████ We're still ████ saying thank you by living in this world. You know what I mean? Like I get it. People are ████ horrible. We're horrible today. We're doing bad ████ People going to be pissed at our whole civilization for how much plastic we use someday. I don't know. Nobody's That doesn't mean like people Yeah, I'm just like don't waste your time trying to take down these people that are not supposed to be gods in the first place. >> Slash they're dead. Like >> [laughter] >> they genuinely won't feel it. >> That's what I'm saying. Like dude, whatever. Let's just figure out the stuff that's happening now. >> That's kind of cool that Christopher Columbus got head on the Santa Maria, huh? >> The Nina, the Pinta, and the Santa Maria. >> photo of that? >> No, I was just a match. >> Hey, but did you know he was Jewish?
15:16 >> I didn't know that. >> Everybody's Jewish these I found out Bruce Lee was Jewish. >> [laughter] >> He's part Jewish, dude. My feed's crazy.
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