0:00 Welcome back to another uh JK news with me and Steve with a special report. Uh since the boys aren't going to meet anytime soon, we wouldn't be able to bring this story uh to you sooner than this. There's uh obviously this has been going around. U Arena Zerutska was murdered in um this is North Carolina where this happened. >> Uh yeah, Charlotte area, right? Uh yeah, she's on the train getting trying to commute from her uh from her job at the pizza place. >> Mhm. >> And just gets senselessly uh murdered over and nothing. >> She just sits down. You see the video. We don't want to show it obviously. >> Yeah. >> She gets on the train, sits down, takes her phone out, hat on, and then the guy behind her starts to do weird things. He pulls his knife out, stabs her, >> and then she's left to die alone, basically. >> Yeah. So, it's obviously a very heinous crime. There's there's really somehow people have magically found ways to to
0:51 find strongholds to defend the action. >> U dividing lines even >> because they're not sane people, >> right? >> Um yeah, this thing shouldn't happen. And if you were willing to look >> at least like not see the color for a little bit, it's just a crazy person that should have been either in jail or committed to a a mental institution, >> should have stayed in jail >> and he's out in society, >> right? >> Yeah. So the unfortunately a lot of the times when people are incarcerated they are immediately released due to judges. >> Yeah. >> And I think a lot of people are saying why the hell was this guy on the streets at all. >> Exactly. Yeah. >> Which I think is like what everyone should be saying in my opinion. >> Yeah. He's been arrested a total of 14 times I believe. >> Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. It was in the double judges for sure. And this feels like very reminiscent of of like I guess when we were in LA, it was very common place that a person that
1:41 committed a really bad crime had a rap sheet that was like a mile long. They've been in and out. They've been uh you know, they've been even deemed unfit for trial and then released after that, you know. >> And before you guys cast us too hard, we actually talked to some cops about this even on JK and they would say, "Yeah, the DAs won't do anything about it. They'll release them." So that's disturbing to know that people can be this violent and still be on our streets or even be temporarily taken off the streets and then returned back to the streets. >> Yeah, exactly. >> So she wouldn't have been a victim is the argument if this guy was thrown put away. >> And yeah, and you guys all know by now that she was a she was a refugee fleeing the war in Ukraine. Um you know trying to have a better life away from what should have been the greater risk. You know that should have been the harder place to live. But uh I guess she underestimated the American justice
2:31 system and how easily they put criminals back out. And this is something we've been whining about for quite a while. Not saying this is in direct uh correlation with, you know, that coming to fruition. But I think the bigger problem overall is that we have people in society that are not fit to blend into everyday life. Yet they have nowhere else to go because the system refuses to hold them or do anything with them. Even I guess this this guy's he had family members who were saying you should incarcerate him but yeah they were being ignored like how does that happen? >> Yeah. >> Like because usually like right they get character witnesses of people who it's like the court wants to hear from people who know this person their own family is like incarcerate this person like please incarcerate this person. >> Yeah. Some of these people like if you guys have ever known anybody to be a career criminal that's not something common but their own family most of the time is afraid of them.
3:22 >> Correct. They're afraid of them coming home to that family home and causing problems again. Like that's not uh it's not a foreign thought when you when you see these like documentaries where they really interview the families of like of of of killers or serial killers or people that are like have done heinous crimes. These families are not in full support of what they're doing. They're not like, you know, they're not unless there's a buck to be made from like a a GoFundMe or something, which oddly enough this guy has. Uh I think GoFundMe has shut it down, but it was it was run by not somebody who even knew him. uh it's it's not it's not rare for the their own family to feel like they're unsafe around them. >> Yeah, man. So, ultimately too, I guess in in this situation, I guess one of the things that a lot of people are saying, especially online and everyone's saying everything, but it's just like like for women especially like when you go somewhere Yeah. >> like you really have to deal with the
4:14 consequences of this inaction like from government, right? like more than the guys always will and more than the guys for sure. >> I'm not being a red pill guy, dude. Like I'm saying like like that is just a fact. Like that is just how it is. Like the women will always have to deal with the consequences of it more because the guys aren't being targeted. Like this is a a very attractive lady who like, you know, maybe that has nothing to do with why she was killed. Like obviously, right? But >> obviously, >> but the but the point that I'm making is like some of these women, they they'll they'll be alone at night walking around in neighborhoods or something like that, feeling the the the threat of these people like these people shouldn't even be on the streets. >> Yeah. You know what? I was actually like at least like this wouldn't be a great thing to be refreshed about at a time like this, but I was happy to see that people weren't flocking to defense of
5:04 his actions purely because of race. >> They weren't like, "Oh, he's black. I'm black. I need to like stand up for this guy." No, that community was pretty well. They were like, "Get this fool off the streets." >> Yeah. It's not like a thing where you have to worry about the lines being divided and now it's white versus black. Like, it's not. In this case, he's a threat to anybody, no matter the color. Like, that's not a person that you should want in your community, no matter what you have in common. >> I've also seen people say like, "Who cares if he's crazy?" It's like, "No, he's he's crazy." Like, what do you mean who cares if he's crazy? He's a psychopath. >> And he really was. Like one of his last crimes was he he called 911 to say that there was some force controlling him in the food or something. Like he's clearly >> something in his body that was making him do this. Yeah. >> Did you hear uh like there was a leaked phone call with his sister? >> I don't know if it's like been verified as as true or false or not, but um >> yeah, there was a phone call that
5:54 apparently he had. Let me try to find it. And um let me see where I sent it to. The other thing too, man, just so disturbing to see like she got stabbed. She's so confused as to what's going on. She looks around and there's just nobody there to help her. That was very depressing for me like as a human being. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's hard. >> It was. And I don't know that I would have been better in the situation. Like who the hell knows? I don't really judge those people. It's just sad. >> Yeah. >> Just hella sad, man. >> It's sad. And and it was sad because uh like people at first when they saw angle number one, they were saying that they were accusing like all the other people of also being black and indifferent. >> And then um insane. >> And then it came out later that like
6:44 >> No, they were just in shock and they did actually help. It just wasn't seen right away like like uh they were like oh no as soon as the the people really realized cuz you can't >> I saw that one guy jump in at the end. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to tell because, you know, she balls up and she's bleeding like into herself. So, it's not it's just going as a as a pool where she's sitting >> and it may not be clear when, you know, lots of weird stuff happens on the train. She couldn't even voice like what had occurred. And uh but then people really did once they realize it. I mean, you your your brain goes through a ton of different responses in order to realize what just happened in front of you, even if you saw it plain as day. Like again, like people are really hard on bystanders because you you do have to almost have a trained mind in order to really react. Um but it is sad to see that nobody could do anything for her. >> It's devastating, dude. >> Yeah. But it is one of those things where like I'm aware of what's happening
7:34 out there. I know it's a big ████ culture war again about uh black onwhite statistical crime and uh and I agree that like every race like it's obvious like different races have different crimes that they do more of you know and like where people are going to see this and they're going to go what about all the school shootings that white people do what about all the molestations within family that white people do yeah there's higher crimes of different races but I think like no matter what happens I appreciate when you don't take a default stance in support of a bad action just because you have race in common with somebody. >> Which is what was disturbing to me anyway about how the news didn't cover this like for a while for a month. >> Exactly. So like this this happened uh what what was it the five days ago or something like that? Three days ago and the news didn't cover it. You could you could go basically anywhere in mainstream media and you wouldn't have
8:24 seen the story anywhere. And that just blows my brains out actually. Like surprises me. >> Yeah, it is >> because it doesn't fit whatever narrative they're trying to sell out there. It doesn't fit that, which is disturbing because it's just like this is a thing that actually happened too. That's what the news is supposed to be. You talk about what happened, >> right? >> Like not like, well, we're very nervous about them raising tensions or anything like that. Brother, tensions are ████ crazy out there already. Like I guess if you want to make that argument, then you're just going to say, "Well, we're going to censor things then to make sure that certain things don't get out there." I just think that's not the way to run anything. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think everybody that's coming out saying that like uh like I saw I don't know if it was like CNN or something had a guy on there talking and it was a black dude and he was saying that like we don't know what this man was going through or how he was hurt. Hurt people hurt people and we
9:14 don't know what it's like to find any excuse for something. Like you got to understand like everybody has to know that there are just people that are off their rocker that just be >> taking dudes out for no reason. >> But again like we know that he was incarcerated and was released. >> Yeah. We know that. Yeah. >> Like and then and that the judge involved was like, "No bail, just release him." And that's crazy to me. Like just that's crazy to me. >> But then you have people that are trying to be his missing intelligence. They're trying to like make it deeper and they're like trying to think for him and be like, "What could he have been going through society that caused him to do it?" It's like you're he's not doing any of that. This dude's just doing messed up ████ like that exists too, right? And I feel like people are in denial that like until it happens to them like some stuff is unjustifiable in any means. And I I think this is one of those things. I don't think there was any good reason for him to do that. And >> it's just clear as a bell. It's like this lady just sits down, gets stabbed, and then there's people going like, "We
10:05 don't know what he's going through." That just blows my mind. >> Blows my mind. Yeah. I don't think going I don't think going through something is an excuse to to kill someone who's innocent that has nothing to do with what you're going through. >> Probably not. >> Like nothing to do with it. >> Yeah. >> Let's get Joe on the >> We're gonna be Joe. >> Yeah. But then, you know what though, to be fair, it is a little bit like to say it has nothing to do with race is also unfair because the dude straight up says verbally, "I got that white girl." We should mention that too. He says, "I got that white girl." Two times he says as he walks around, >> I heard it. >> It's very, very messed up. >> Which is fine if he's living in that own like in his own world where he sees white girls as like a demon. That's in his brain. The dude's clearly not >> He shouldn't be on the street. >> Yeah. He shouldn't be on the street. And he shouldn't al He also shouldn't be a spokesperson for how you feel. >> Yeah. Shouldn't Yeah. It shouldn't have been released on the streets 14 times. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Maybe. That's crazy though. I don't know. In this climate, who knows? >> Right. Okay. So, uh you haven't heard
10:56 this this clip yet, right? No. So, there's a supposedly there's a leaked phone call of the um Ina's murderer uh alleged murder, I guess I should say. Yeah. Where he's talking to his sister about what happened. So, I'm just going to play that for you. >> So, you said something in your body did what? No. Uh the material uh feel like the material used in my body is stab. >> So he's blaming a material in his body that's causing him to do this controlling him. >> Yeah. >> And so she just got stabbed. >> You know that's not me. I'm talking about just for no reason. >> But since they did that, since they did that, now they got to investigate the material my body is supposed to. since they want to do all that. Now they got to investigate. >> It's funny because she's from um she's
11:48 from the Ukraine. She's from Russia and you know they got a war they had a war going on against the United States. So I'm just trying to understand out of all people watch her. >> That's Hey, it ain't I don't have nothing. I Hey, they just lashed out on her. That's that that's what happened. They lashed out on her. Whoever was working the Who was working the M? who was whoever was working the material they lasted on. >> So, he's blaming this material that's taken over his body. Uh, and that it took control of him and did that action and that he's not the one responsible. So, I'm pretty sure you don't really need anything else to know this dude's crazy out of his >> and the judge should probably release him without bail. That that's what's crazy to me. I I can't believe somebody like this is still out there. And I'm pretty sure his sister misspoke or
12:38 something or misunderstood the Russia Ukraine thing. >> Oh, I don't think she know. I think she's just trying to calm him down. I I think she was she was trying to take his side to calm him down a little bit. >> There's some people that believe that that this is like a lawyer directed thing where they're trying to get him to say that it like I guess in order to get a lighter sentence to try to move it from first degree by her asking these key questions that might get an answer that makes him seem less responsible in a way. >> That makes that's that's been said. I don't know if that's true. >> I think she did the right thing by trying to calm him down a little bit like uh that's what I would have done anyway like in the situation just because you know you're trying to get as much information as you can. I I I think that's what she's doing. I have no idea though. >> Yeah. I guess I'm sure that's that was probably from his like what his phone call after he's been arrested. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. But yeah, I think even just
13:28 hearing that, you can tell it's not >> I think maybe to take away the hate crime aspect of the charge, >> right? >> They're trying to move more towards I'm just nuts. >> Mhm. >> Cuz I mean, him performing this act, walking away and saying, "I got the white girl. I got the white girl." That's really all you need to get a hate crime is like some kind of like racial motivation. Yeah. Racial motivation. >> And uh >> that that that I think is pretty clearcut. But but then yeah, if he's talking to ████ Zenu or some ████ like who know, you know, I don't know. >> Yeah. Right. If he's like be if he's being controlled by an outside force and that he seems like he's not fit to stand trial. I mean, he was already under investigation for not being unfit for his last trial, >> right? >> Whoever puts the cat away, sign me up. But uh >> yeah, I'm I >> But no, I do think that people are justified because I don't know. I've seen people I saw people on mainstream media just say this isn't a hate. How do we know that? And like you said, like he
14:19 literally is on audio saying he's literally saying, >> "I got the white girl. I got it." >> Yeah. Right. >> So, it's like, yeah, we think we got that. It's good. >> Right. >> But he's also nuts. >> He's also nuts. Yeah. I think that >> can happen at the same time. >> That's a good I didn't think about that way. But I just figured if you're crazy then that takes precedence over all the reasons for your actions because you're just cuckoo. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, I guess crazy people can't be racist and act on it too, you know? >> Crazy. >> Yeah. Uh, and the way he deliberately like sees her sit down and then like kind of starts planning his attack. Yeah. >> That's what I'm saying. Like this guy just doesn't belong on the anywhere. Like this guy should be put away forever. >> Yeah. And it's it's just sad to see somebody that like, you know, like the way Trump talked about her was kind of a little funny when he said she's never had a problem in the world.
15:09 >> It's like I'm sure that's maybe not literally meant. probably meant she didn't make trouble for anybody, right? Which I think is like a fair assessment for somebody who, you know, shouldn't be killed. I mean, if she never caused problems for anybody and she's just living her life trying to make it, those are the people that you hate to see go down randomly because that I think those are the people that we relate to most and where like you're not out there trying to hurt somebody. You're not out there trying to randomly kill anybody and then you get taken out with no reason whatsoever. That's got to be harsh, you know, because there's a lot of worse people in the world that, you know, could run into this fate but don't. And then there are people who are just good citizens or or just in society going about their, you know, they're NPCs in a way. They're not like trying to hurt you or change your life. They're just trying to survive and uh it's just bad luck, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah, it reminds me of the Harper Lee quote where where you know Attakus
16:00 Finch and Tequila Mockingbird's talking about it's a sin to kill a mockingb bird because all they do is sing for people. Like they don't do anything wrong. Like you're you know you get a gun, you're an excited little kid, you shoot a mockingb bird like that's a sin because they're they're not doing anything wrong. >> Yeah. >> And I think that's apt here. >> Yeah. And it's not that like we're going to go dig in her life and try to find a reason that she should have been. It's it's not about that. It's it's just about this is supposed to be default society where you should be safe doing something like riding a train or going to and from work. You know, it it shouldn't be a concern of yours as just a normal person that you should see somebody and think like, oh, that guy looks like someone I shouldn't sit in front of, you know? >> Yeah. And by the way, we think this about like everybody, like not just this story. So, like I can't wait for people to hit us with like, did you hear about this person who got attacked in the train station? It's like we we don't
16:50 like that too, >> actually. Can you believe that? We don't like that too. >> I don't want this to happen to anybody at any time. >> Yeah, we don't like that to happen. >> Yeah, >> but then it is funny when when people are like you I mean you can't really victim blame in this sense. Some people are like well she like racist ass people are like well she should have known if everybody there was black she shouldn't have been on that train. Like what do you want her to do? >> Right. She didn't even look around. She got on the train sat down. >> Yeah. Is that what you want us to live with? You want us to live with this concern that like you know like oh that's the wrong train to be on? I don't think that should happen no matter what. But again, like we live in a really weird cruel world and uh >> we live in a world where everyone supposes everything. I also see people, dude, and this really isn't that related, but people, you know, I know people from Europe and stuff because I'm very cultured man of the world and people from there always say like, "Wow, do you guys just see people wearing like
17:40 having guns all the time?" And I'm like, "No, we don't." Like, "No, the answer is no." Like, but they don't know that. They think that we just like see people brandishing guns all the time and just going PPP. We don't see that. >> Well, yeah. I mean, we don't because we don't hang around that, >> right? >> But I mean, I'm sure like if you're the type of person go to takeovers and ████ like your world is a little bit different than ours. Amen. >> For sure. But for sure. >> Again, that's that's the reason why we're taught at a earlier age that like, you know, it's it's about where you are, what you're doing. If you're just hanging around at bad places at the at the worst time of night, you're at a higher risk. This I don't feel is fair because that's part of her commute. She's not kicking it around gangsters. You know what I mean? Like it's just a normal everyday person getting taken out unjustly, but you know, all these people in retrospect are thinking she could have done something different, whereas >> it shouldn't have even been something to
18:31 be >> It's just unfair. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> All right. We're gonna get Joe on here real quick. >> All right. >> All right. When did you guys cover? So, we pretty much just covered the facts about what happened to Ireina when she basically just when she got on the train and literally did nothing wrong and got killed over it. Uh, just being in the wrong place in front of the wrong person. Yeah. >> Did you guys see the full unedited like unedited video? >> Yeah, I did. Yeah, it's really unfortunate and uh >> Yeah, >> I kind of wish I didn't see it, but >> me too, >> man. I don't know. I I kind of feel bad for like the bystanders because this is what always happens. Like when people watch it, they be like, "How could not do anything?" Yeah. How could they like I'm like, "Yeah, but >> people will always be like, "Dude, if I was able to ████ save the day or like
19:21 I would have came into the rescue." But I'm like, >> when you grow up in a rough area too, you kind of just like learn how to preserve yourself, which is not good. But you It's kind of like this weird like and you got to be like you got to give grace to the people that are scared. Like they're scared. What the ████ And you're not in their shoes. You want them to come up and like fight the dude. You want them to come and play rescue. I do think it's kind of bad though that they started recording her. That was crazy. That's like that was the weirdest thing. >> But um >> yeah, other people that were just scared and they didn't know what to do like they're probably getting ████ right now. But in general, I think like where the ████ is every like what's what's society coming to really where they do this and
20:11 people like aren't really like trying to >> they're numb to it. Yeah. They're numb to it a little bit. >> Yeah. A similar incident happened in um I think a guy was like at a laundromat and he was just washing clothes and these two dudes were were in there with him and one guy was like, "Watch this." and he stabbed the ████ out of him just for fun. >> I saw that video. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The guy that was just sleeping on the table. >> Yeah. >> Waiting for his laundry. He literally was just doing his laundry, waiting for it. Had his head down like this. >> And then these two guys were just bored and they just stabbed him for no reason. >> Jesus. And he died. >> He died. Yeah. >> But that didn't go that didn't really go on the news. >> Unstable people. >> Yeah. >> Loose. They're just loose. They're man,
21:03 it's crazy. >> And that's that's the thing I was saying too, Joe, is like I know that when people see the the photo right away they want to go to race, but I I just I'm like fine if you want to go there. I'm not saying that that you're right or wrong, but I just hope people will put crazy first >> cuz I think crazy is really what it's about. And the fact that we as a society are not being protected from crazy at least anymore. like there's no more >> and we're not being we're not the courts aren't doing their jobs in holding these people. Like we shouldn't this woman should never have been killed because this guy was already like should have been incarcerated multiple times over 10 times. >> How many um prior he >> I think it was 14uh. >> It's 14 total. Um, damn. >> And that's to say like if you've been arrested 14 times, that's that's safe to
21:53 assume >> the system is failing if you're still on the street after that. >> And there must be other things you didn't get caught for if you're that many times getting caught. >> Exactly. Right. >> Yeah. >> So, the system failed her for sure. The system failed. >> Yeah. The system failed 100%. >> You know how like the pendulum is swinging so hard, right? So, when we were growing up, um, a lot of the times they would kind of like describe the the the per as like he was an Asian male or a black male or whatever. Yeah. >> And then the terminology would be different if it was like a like a white male in his youth or something, right? And so now they want to do it like the complete opposite where it's like we don't say color, we don't say anything. But then now you don't even know who you're looking for. Um it's and it's it's it's kind of like this weird like we were so off this way so now we have
22:44 to go this way. Over >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's like over correction. It's uh but I do think it's like >> with the wrongful incarceration and all the issues that that kind of stained us in the past now it's almost like they're trying to correct it but in the wrong way where you're just letting everybody loose and then you're you're thinking that everything's going to be okay and that's completely the wrong way to approach crime. Um, and this was happening during co too. Remember when um a lot of like mentally dist disturbed people were beating up Asians? >> Oh yeah. >> And and it it it it almost became like a black versus Asian issue, but it really wasn't like sensible people of the black
23:34 community beating up, >> right? It's not Yeah. >> It's not like a church youth group leader was stalking an Asian guy. >> Wacka. >> Yeah. >> No, it was Yeah. And it just it's like guys that should have been in jail. They were they had like five, you know, or like guys that were just absolutely off the rails like talking to themselves thinking that this grandma was a demon >> legit and like >> so like and and then I think things like that it's like yeah we have a crime problem and a mental health problem but no one's actually doing anything about it. >> Yeah. And that's where >> they're making it about race. >> Yeah. And that's where I think like I'm always the type of person nowadays, especially having learned so much from like you guys. Like the first person to look at is always your government in situations like this because I feel like they just can't. This is my I don't know if I'm conspiracy braining, but I don't think they can monetize as well off of
24:24 crazy people that have no one in their lives. >> Uh monetize how? >> The way that um the way that you can monetize prisoners. >> Oh, right. >> I don't think there's anywhere to put them. There's nowhere to put them that they can gain from having them incarcerated. So, they just they let them go because there's there's no money to be made. No one's going to come by paying for a bail. No one's going to no one will come for these people. They have been completely excommunicated from their homes and families. They're they're totally separated, right? >> There's nobody there to pick up a tab. >> So, why even bother? Like like how they closed all the mental institutions, like stuff like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, they closed all the mental institutions and then they also gave a s███████ of money to um California homelessness or whatever. All these different states have homeless programs >> where people who work there get rich and the homeless stay on the streets. Yeah. >> Like it's a very very messed up situation.
25:14 >> And I think there's more money to be made from them being on the street and doing all of these outreach programs and NOS's to like get funding than it is to have them in jail. >> Ryan, I want to hire you. I want to hire you to do a job and I need you to to do a good job at this job, but then I need if you want to keep the job, the problem has to persist. >> Yeah. Right. >> That's the problem. >> Yeah. And it has to be worse next year because funding will go up. You have a new How many billions is he in on that homelessness program? It's like his 10 year anniversary of it >> or 24 year anniversary something. >> It's insane. >> Yeah. And I and I think that the issue is people call it a homeless problem, but it's really like a mental health problem. It's a mental health problem. >> Yeah. They're they're they're on drugs and they don't want to get off of it and it's an addiction problem cuz most people that are temporarily homeless. Like they want to get back on their
26:04 feet. They want a job. They want to get back into society. But like also if they're schizophrenic or whatever, they're not capable of having a job. Like they need to be, you know, we need to find a way to get them some help. But if there's no institution, like we don't have asylums and ████ like that, where are they going to go? They're just going to go on the street >> and one day they're going to think they're talking to the devil and they need to stop the devil and it just so happens >> to be like a teenager or something. >> Yeah. Just someone innocent. >> I was on a subway in LA and this guy was just he's a crazy homeless guy just talking to me about I got stuck one day, you know, sat in the wrong seat and I got stuck and he's telling me about how he's like the the Hitler reborn or whatever and I'm like that's tight, dude. Hell yeah. That's lit. Like what am I going to say? like just like I got to get the hell out of here, right? >> Yeah. We're like desensitized to it, too. >> Yeah. No, legit. I'm We're used to it.
26:54 >> And it's weird that like I think you can only go so far into the deep end until you're stuck in a point of no return, which a lot of these guys are, unfortunately. I don't think I think a lot of them are beyond help. And it's sad to say, like you can you can be in this rut for so long until you snap. And I think once people snap, it's the same answer. And they get stuck in a loop of being someone else's problem. And the government is just like, "Ah, we'll just, you know, let you circulate in your own filth until something really bad happens." >> You oftentimes hit the streets when you have betrayed your family so hard due to addiction and stuff like that that they kick you out and you're there's nowhere to go, right? >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> So, yeah. >> Yeah. And you know what sucks to me is that like the more you travel and the more you realize how safe other countries are and I'm just like, damn, dude. like why can't we have nice things sometimes if we're the richest country in the world and all that and I love dude I ████ want everything here to
27:45 be so much better but then it's so hard to feel like there is like a light at the end of the tunnel when it comes to a lot of our cities and how like the crime is just insane and and then out here if you find an affordable place it doesn't mean it's because things are run down or a little bit like older it's because it's dangerous we have pay for safety. Yeah, we're paying for like a middle class life that maybe is away from crime. You have to pay for the premium. Whereas other countries, it's like, >> oh well, your apartment isn't as nice. That's why it's a little bit cheaper. But you don't have to worry about a crackhead biting you, you know? And I think that's just what sucks. And I don't know what the answer is to like solve that issue. >> Yeah. I mean, that's that's the hardest thing to answer. I mean, that's the reason why uh even people that are in
28:35 those neighborhoods when they strike it rich or they get big, they leave. They get out of there because even they're in danger of that own climate, you know, like >> the people that are within proximity of it would rather not be, but they under circumstances they have to be. >> I also think too like due to medical misinformation and stuff like that, people don't know that when a crackhead bites you, you become a crackhead. >> Yeah. They have to be careful. >> It's just a mess up thing. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> Yeah. People got to watch out for >> You got to look out for >> sure. >> Yeah. Somewhere underground there's like a main crackhead that turns everybody. Is that what you're thinking? >> The mother ship. >> Yeah. The mother ship. >> Yeah. That's that's that's the one thing that like you know rather than this I think it's too easy to make this a race thing >> because it lets the government off the
29:25 hook. >> Exactly. >> And I don't like that anymore. And I think like when you when you just say, "Oh, it's just black on white." Like you're letting you're playing into their freaking hands, man. You're letting the government go free from everything that they caused, like they did this to us, man. They're the ones that are like, "No, you guys deal with it and we'll just collect the money as if we are >> CIA tested AIDS on the African-American population." Like that happened. Those documents are out there. Like that's what I'm saying. Like you can't look at this and go like, "Oh, well, you know, they're on our side." Like no, no, no. That is that is the opposite of the truth. >> Yeah. So that's why like I >> it's for me I'm like hey if I'm gonna if I'm going to work four to five months out of the year like if you think about if your tax is right 30 to 40% of your taxes like out of the year is given to
30:16 the government. That means like at least four months of your time you're working for free to give to the government, right? And I don't think people really realize that because I'm like if I'm giving my hours in life and time away. I want safety. I want basics. Like I'm not getting any of that. If if I go to LA right now and walk around at midnight, dude. Like that's not it's not a safe place to be. But I don't think it should be like that. Like LA is like one of the richest cities in the world. And then it shouldn't feel like what the hell's h like we spend so much money. Where is it going? >> But hell of people would lecture you in the comments right now and say like why are you out at midnight in LA? >> Yeah. >> Like we just have it all backwards now. We just all we flipped it all. We're so used to it, you know? We're so numb to it. >> We did get used to it. Yeah.
31:08 >> Yeah. You get used to it all the time and you think it's your own fault for getting mugs sometimes, >> right? >> Right. That's like why you dressing yourself hot, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, even, you know, I I've seen it shared everywhere. It's like guys with Rolexes in LA getting their hands chopped off for their their It's crazy, man. >> Yeah. Right. It's like, >> and you always see that in the comments. Why are you showing off? But it's like, bro, why is this guy getting his hand chopped off actually at a diner in the middle of, you know, what are you doing? >> Yeah. Why is it that I can go to a way like poor country and feel way safer and they have decency and they have >> Well, you're you're also richer than everyone in the country when you go there. >> You're also the richest guy there when you go. >> You're the richest guy there. Yeah.
31:59 >> You're the king. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. I definitely think it's it is this is one of those examples where like everybody wants to be so so mad about a very specific thing, but I don't think there's an there and there is a lot of people like blaming the government and blaming the the court system and and everything. And I think that's really where everyone's mind should be because I hope so. >> You can't you you just can't stop this from happening yourself because you can't be everywhere. You can't always be living like that like thinking I got to sit in front of the right person on this train. It's just not possible to do that. But it's possible for the government >> to implement policies where people who end up there don't just easily get released. >> Exactly. And that would make everyone feel safer, right? Everybody >> like knowing that they're actually doing something about the people who are committing crimes and they're staying incarcerated and not necessarily being
32:50 released cash like like oh no more cash bail. Like that's good. I guess like this guy this guy killed a lady because of that. >> Like that's that's not good. >> Yeah. I don't know, man. It's It's just a wild time we're living in because I never thought there'd be a time where people would be like, "Oh, we should let the criminals go." >> Yeah. Me neither. I >> I don't think those people are in the majority, though. I really don't. >> Yeah. But they're getting these policies passed, right? So the ideology is strong enough to where >> they're the the people who are passing them, they're representing the people that want those things. >> Yeah. Well, it's just like Aram Cho told us uh the lieutenant guy who came by. Uh basically, if you if you think like criminals should have it easier, you're
33:41 basically helping the politicians because that helps the pad their stats for their time in office. So then they're able to report crime went down. Yeah. Yeah, they're able to say, "Oh, look at this. When I was in office, crime went down." It's like, "Oh, because you got a DA that you told don't prosecute." Like, that's that's the same thing as crime being down. That's why people are getting tired of being told that crime is at an all-time low. They're being sick of being told that because that's not what they see. That's not what they live. >> But the stats are just bogus. >> A little bit unrelated, but it's not different than the economy. All of a sudden, what, 3 days ago, they go, "Oopsy daisies. There's 900,000 less jobs actually that were created than we thought a year ago. Sorry about that." Dan, that happened. >> Same idea. Yeah. Just got revised. Most massive revision in history. But same same exact idea. It protects somebody's job, right? It helps somebody be a scumbag somewhere, >> right? I feel like in the age that we're
34:31 able to film so much of this ████ ourselves. I I feel like how can crime be down when we have that much like websites that run on crime footage are at an alltime boom. Like you know what I mean? like every there's just so much evidence of it happening everywhere all the time that like to just sit there and and be told by a politician that oh no you're wrong actually you're actually living in the safest time of your life. >> Oh my god it's >> that reminds me of the year when um I remember the administration at the time was saying that the drone program is the best that they've ever done because they had no casualties and they just weren't reporting them. >> That's all it was. They just weren't reporting them anymore. That was a policy from the top on down. We don't report civilian casualties anymore. We call them enemy combatants. We reclassify. That's it. Damn. So, yeah. Same idea. >> Yeah. Same idea. Yeah. It's the people that create these stats for you to look at. >> That's that's you assuming they're
35:21 totally truthful. >> A belief. Exactly. To justify a belief. >> And they win by the stats being the way they want. That doesn't make sense to be >> everyone feel much better. I feel much better. Oh, I feel so much better. >> Yeah. No. That's why I think like, man, above anything before you see race, class, whatever, if if a dude's crazy, it's almost like the rules don't apply. This guy's not living by any type of self-governance that that that is uh >> that's liveable. Like you just can't you can't deal with that. You won't win against a guy that's nuts. So >> yeah, >> but you know what's sad though is that I think like the most digestible thing makes it the most popular thing. >> That's true. Yeah. >> Like when when people go, "Oh yeah, like it's a it's a crazy black guy that hates white people." Because at the end he's like, "Yeah, I got that white girl." So now it becomes a race issue, right? >> Yeah, he did say that. >> Focusing and focusing and focusing on
36:11 that and like >> I think for a lot of people um >> that's much easier kind of thing to understand than like oh it's the government that isn't doing their job correctly and allowing this kind of ████ to go. >> Exactly. Right. >> But that's also not what the mainstream media will allow to be reported. Correct. They won't allow a report to say that the government failed this many times and that's the reason why like no they're going to want people to >> independent media and everyone to focus on and I want to have smarter conversations and I want to have like >> us focusing on the point because I I actually want like solutions and resolve rather than like scapegoats and nothing being solved. So I think if if a media like us like if we get together and we
37:02 just keep pushing the like focus on what really matters then I think they'll be forced to change it. >> If you want a scapegoat that will never get resolved keep making it about race. >> Yeah. >> All day long. Make it like hey this is a black guy who wanted to kill a white person and that's all it's about. And and what so what can you pass based off that? What law can you pass? What can you do about that? Right. You know what I mean? Like there's nothing >> you you're washing the government's hands for them basically. >> It's feelings. Exactly. So you're just making everyone focus on feelings instead of focus on how to do something. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah. And that's the same when people go, "Oh, I wish you would come with that energy for school shooters." It's like that energy is even bigger. That's like those people are even crazier than this guy. >> Like they're even more out of the ████ world. Like yeah, they shouldn't even even with no prior like if >> they're like I just want to shoot a bunch of kids today. Like those people are nuts. >> That's totally nuts.
37:53 >> Of course those people should never even see the light of day. But then but then again like if they don't have any priors, how do you how do you know that they're there? >> No, those people are always like invisible. >> How do you know they exist? Cuz a lot of time they're loners. They have like no friends. They they don't you know and the people that do know them avoid them. They have you know and then but then at the same time what people also don't want the FBI looking at all of your posts to see if you are crazy. No, >> because that is a suggestion that they had where the government's like what if we just like use this to gain access to everybody's stuff. So, don't put it past the government that they won't use that to get even more access, you know. >> And the best thing you could do is if if you find out people in your area are playing Magic the Gathering, you should probably send call the cops. >> Yeah. If they're if they're >> if they're repeatedly playing pot of greed. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Call the cops on that. >> Yeah. No, it's there are signs, but again, those are so
38:43 >> bleed. There's some bleed. >> Yeah. That's the hard part. And that's the reason why I think school shootings are that's already a catch because these aren't people that have done like small crimes leading up to it all the time. Sometimes they're just people that have been quiet their whole lives and they snap. >> Oh, legit. >> But there's nowhere for them to go when they do snap. No, that's the problem. There's nobody to take them. There's nothing. >> They always go to their uncle's gun closet. Like that's the only place to go. Like, and by the way, why does every uncle have a damn gun closet? >> And it's also bad parenting and bad household keeping. >> It's crazy. >> Like you got to be an idiot to >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's all It's It's definitely all bad. You don't think one thing is worse than the other, but for sure school shootings, >> that's objectively there's no good in that. There's no whatever energy comes for this guy who killed Ireina. Yeah. Like apply that to everything. That's terrible. Like >> what do you think uh Joe? What do you think about Trump calling for the death penalty for the killer? >> Oh. Um I I think the death penalty
39:37 is a tricky kind of law, right? like because there has been um errors in the past. Well, this one's pretty beyond reasonable doubt. >> Yeah. Yeah. Guy in there, right? >> Agreed. >> And my my personal feelings is like, dude, like >> 14 times convicted. That's more than enough. It used to be a three strike felony here in California where you have life in prison. >> Yeah. And in Texas, I think it was uh you get the death sentence. Well, I don't know. There you get that in Texas. You don't you don't get in California. >> Yeah. >> Jamalian law states that uh >> here we go. >> Cool. And unusual punishment is wonderful. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. >> Yeah.
40:28 >> I think he should be in a little train while a bunch of Ukrainians pop up and start stabbing them under the knee. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> Love that. Whatever whatever stuff they whatever they come down to at the result for what happens to this guy. I just man I just hope so badly that there's some kind of punishment for the justice system in that area that he me the judges who allowed him to go free. I want some accountability that didn't even have law degrees. >> I want accountability something like that. >> Yeah. Something like that >> that they just needed to be interviewed. >> No, there was a woman who didn't even have like she never even passed the bar or anything like that. She's a judge. She's sitting there. >> She >> we don't she was appointed. So >> yeah, what I read it was like in that particular system that they have, the magistrates just need to be voted on and appointed. And apparently through maybe some form of uh nepotism or or a homie hookup, she got that position.
41:18 >> That is I didn't even know that even it's no different than usual government administrative appointments. Exactly. It's the same exact idea. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And it's it's just as disappointing, >> right? Yeah. I didn't know that you could be a judge and like sentence people without those qualifications. That's wild to me. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure they were counting on people never looking that deep into it, too. But, you know, here we are. >> Wherever this place is, I want to be a judge. >> That's looking on the bright side, Joe. I love that about you. Always did. [Laughter] >> Got to stay optimistic. >> Exactly. Yeah, >> dude. It's really hard to be positive though to be honored country. >> Yeah. >> And hopes of a new life re like and then
42:08 and then like it's even it was it was more unsafe in America >> and it would have been safer for her to stay in Ukraine and dodge bullets. Can you like >> It's crazy. It's sad, man. It's just sad. >> Crazy. >> Yeah. So that's we're we're we're more unsafe than a war zone and I really feel bad. Um it's just crazy. Like she's super young and she had a whole life ahead of her and it was just taken away like that. >> So I guess Me too, man. So I guess what isn't safe is that Cody Rhodess is going to be at Wrestle Palooa. >> What do you think about that? Does that change the whole game for you, >> Joe? No. >> Okay. >> Thanks for answering. >> Thanks for giving us a clean answer. Do Bart dodged that, by the way. He
42:59 completely dodged it. Ducked it. >> Yeah. He's too much of a ████ to answer. >> Mark to be in. >> No, no, no. We're good. We're good. >> No, he refused to join for the >> Yeah, he refused. I'm just kidding. >> Okay. >> He's helping Ta do math homework or some ████ so >> he's busy. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. Later, brother. >> Thanks, man. >> All right. >> Deuces out. >> Thank you. >> Personally, again, these are our takes. I don't think you should be influenced by them in any way if you feel very differently, but I feel like he shouldn't have even been there. Um, I don't think there's anything Ina deserved to do differently. I don't think she should have >> lived her life uh seeing black guys differently. I I don't think that would have helped her. I think uh people that commit crimes and that are deemed to be a risk to society just plain shouldn't be allowed there. Uh and maybe you might have a different opinion that would be helpful for me to see. So if you want to >> No, I saw people on Twitter say if only
43:49 she had been a racist, she wouldn't have sat there, which is just insane. So So you go through life just pingponging your way around making sure you're not around a certain type of per like you just I just don't know how you get there in your life. >> And again, like if you want to judge just by that scenario and say that it's probably true there, but you don't know how someone's whole entire life is going to go if they're just >> How do you live like that? >> How do you like that? I don't know how you live like that. >> That's unfortunate. But also, please remember that if a crazy black dude is out of trade, he is a risk to all people. Even nice black people don't want to sit in front of that guy if they know he's crazy. It doesn't mean like like, oh, the whole entire race as a monolith is is now a risk. It's there's people that the government and and the justice system can tell you is crazy, and they can tell you they're a risk, but they refuse to do enough about it.
44:39 That's where your outrage should lie. So hopefully you guys could see a little bit of our point and uh and and adopt slightly a little bit of that sentiment because I feel like with everything that happens of this nature, the wool is going to be pulled over your eyes so fast by everything around you. The last thing you're going to do is remember to blame the government. And that's exactly what I feel like this is. >> And Cody Rhodess at Russell Palooa, this is not the time. This is not the time. >> It's too much heat. that just came across the wire roads at Russell Blues. That's gonna be >> Should we call Anthony and just bait him into this? >> We should, yo. He'll be like, "Yo." He'll be so excited like, "Hey, this is about Ireina." And he'll be like, "Oh." He'll immediately clean it up, too.
45:29 He'll be like, "Oh, god, dude. That sucks. >> That sucks." All right.
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