0:00 [Music] All right, welcome to a very defensive episode of Careful Boys where we have Tatiana back with us today. You said we didn't even talk about what you guys were talking about. You said defensive news. Next one. All right. Hey, what's some that you just get defensive about? Like when somebody talks about something like it just triggers you in some weird way and like you get defensive about it. Could be personal, could be just a belief. I know I'm usually don't give a about anything, but I feel like there's something that I get really sensitive about. I forgot what it was. Your lips is the same as strong man. I don't know. Come back to me later. But I know
0:50 there's something out of a touchy subject area, but I forgot what it was. Oh, Taiwan is China. No, I don't give a ████ about that. Keep going. Keep going. Everybody just assume what you think it is for those. Chinese are just Chinese, dude. Yesterday, that guy that I was rolling with, uh, there's a guy I was rolling with, he's like, "What is he? Middle Eastern or Persian?" Arian. Armenian. My guy. He's like, "What the what? What's Nick?" And I was like, "Well, I think he's a Singaporean." They go, "Singaporean? What's that?" I was like, "Just Chinese. Why? He said it's so buzz. I guess I was like, you're not going to get it. But also, not wrong. I was going to repeat exactly what you said. Just everybody just It's just so funny how you guys always refer to me as Singaporean. When people ask me, I'm like, I'm just Chinese. I just go, you're the one saying Chinese. I'm Chinese, dude. Yeah. Me like joke. Yeah. Cuz you I don't know if it's one thing that I get defensive
1:41 about. I just don't like being misunderstood. Like I feel like some people try to misunderstand you and that just pisses me off. Mhm. I actually don't even care about that anymore cuz now I go, "Oh, you're ████." Yeah. Yeah. I feel like the older I'm getting, it's like wearing off. But like it Yeah. It happened recently. I'm like, "No, you're trying to misunderstand me." And this is not It's like that. Yeah. It's like you're not really hearing what I'm saying. That girl got twopieed in ████ New York. Because it's like you're trying to mishar me. You're You're not understanding me. People go, "Oh, so you're saying that back around joke?" You like, "So what is this story you guys are talking about? I didn't see it." Yes. Well, this girl, I guess she has like a internet show of some sort. She's a conservative and um she decided she want to do man on the street ████ in New York. Now, here's the thing. You better be prepared for anything if you're going to do some ████ in New York. You better be Annie Milanakis. You better be. Yeah. Either play stupid or
2:32 ████ find a way out or duck, ████ You know, that head movement better be quick. So, she's antagonizing this girl. They're having a conversation about pro-life pro. She's The other girl's obviously getting like riled up, right? which I was like fair, you know, emotional intelligence, everybody ain't got it. You need to be prepared for that because if you are, let's say the girl who is a conservative and you know, she is pro-life, like come with valid points. Don't antagonize a person if you want them to learn something. Don't be just mean. Yeah. But that's what you're doing. You're trying to get a clip or you're you're sparking a debate. Yeah. Oh, she got pieced up. She got a clip. Oh, yeah. She you you know, and that's this is a theory. This is not a real statistic, but I think I the average New Yorker has been in at least one fist fight, right? I I I believe it. I believe that. Right. And it's like a it's a type of city. It's not like a
3:22 shooting ass state like it is in California. I'm not going to lie. I don't ████ with people out here cuz people be popping off. True. We don't fist fight much here. People just shoot. It's like it there's a there's an idea in New York called shooting the fair one, right? And we shoot the fair. Like it's one-on-one. None of that jumping ████ It's like you and me, mono emano. and and clean fight. Cool. And let's move on. Like nobody's got to die. People get to go home to their families after. Honorable. Yeah. Honorable. But see, if you don't understand that that culture, that can be shocking when you get punched in the face for your actions. You're like, "Oh, these are the consequences." Yes, ████ Yeah. And they were clean, too. She said, and it connected. Connected. And she got cut by it. Yeah. She was bleeding. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I wish I knew what it felt like to cuz she's from Nebraska. Yeah. Take that ████ to the south, ████
4:13 Yeah, it was a That was pretty sad. Yeah. I mean, is it really? And then they walked after her and that that lady who socked her was just dancing off that part. I didn't see that part. And she was just like, she didn't give a ████ dude. But why would you want to debate with someone who doesn't know how to debate and they just get they think they take it personal? I think some people think it's an easy win cuz they gauge like they go, "Oh, that person looks like beneath my intelligence. Let me let me smoke them verbally." Not thinking they're going to get socked. Yeah. Yeah. But then when you poke the bear, that's what I'm saying. The bear is going to bite, right? But like not not to say that that's right, like violence shouldn't be right, but there's reality and there's like That's what an eye for an eye is. They just never got bit before probably. No bear's bite. Cuz I know I can test people and be like, "Hey, hey, hey." Like, "You should never cross the line
5:04 and be ████ violent." But I know the reality is there's people out there that will kill you. Not everybody follows your same code. Exactly. And even even Hey, listen. If we want to take it to the Bible, hey, God didn't tell David to forgive Goliath. He said, "Kill that motherfucker." You understand? This is biblical Old Testament. Let's go. Let's go. You understand? The best one. That's the best That's album. Yeah, that's a testament. You know, some people didn't didn't learn that early. Like I remember I remember the first time I realized like, oh, don't don't put your hands on somebody else. I was 5 years old. It was this big ass kid named Josiah. He was also 5 years old, but for whatever reason, he was very large. And I thought it would be a good idea. I was playing with him to hit him with my jacket. Man, my jacket had like a big ass like metal zipper on it. And it like Yeah. It caught him. And he started
5:55 crying, right? And I was like, "Oh s███." Like I didn't mean to make him cry, but I just kept playing. He came back with his ████ and said, "Walk and I'm crying now." But I understood really quickly. I said, "I deserve this." Hamurabi's law. Yeah. And even as a child, I could understand, "Okay, this is the consequences of my actions. I'll never hit another kid again unless it was warranted." Unless they were smaller than me. No. No. I wasn't a bully. I wasn't a bully. Cuz I get it if you go to a space that's about debate and you're there to engage and that's the rules. Well, if you go into the streets, you don't know if this person is just nuts. There's no Geneva Convention. No, they're going to either stab you or someone will just debate you. But you you don't you roll the dice, which is okay to do if you are willing to fight them and stab them, too. Yeah. Right. But if you're not, go talk to someone
6:46 else, right? Yeah. So, um, but yeah, I think that's the only thing I'm I don't know. What about you guys? What do you What do you guys think? I don't think she should have punched her. I think it was it was wrong. I think you think it was wrong. I don't think she should have done that. I think she should always keep her hand. The peaceful road. He said what? She should have taken the peaceful road. The high road. Yeah. Yeah. But if I if somebody if I was arguing with Bart and he was like killing me with like evidence or whatever, I'd suck your ass out, too. I get ████ mad, too. You know that that's what I've been I've been thinking about like is a lot of people get caught up in what should be instead of what is. So like they get caught up in like how the world morally should be and idealistically yeah we should all strive to be that but they also don't know that there are bad people out there or there are people that are unhinged. So they're not thinking like you. Yeah. So how do
7:36 you protect yourself against that? Don't talk to them. Exactly. Well, the only way you know that is if you learn the hard way one time. You get ████ That's true. And you're supposed to be going through that ████ as like an adolescent. You're still ████ around as an adult. Then it's like that's how you could tell some people just didn't get it yet. No, they didn't get it. But do you think we grew up a certain way where like these people kind cuz like some people live so sheltered. Yeah. Yeah. that their rules of engagement, this is what I noticed is um like upper middle class, their rules of engagement is all words. They don't go violent. Yeah. So, it's very proper though, not going to lie. Like the way they fight is different. The way they fight is like I'm just going to I'm going to throw you off. I'm going to get you as angry as possible. It's like corporate fighting, right? So, they they ████ with you emotionally so you don't think
8:27 correctly. Call my lawyer. Yeah. But if you grow up blue collar or like a little lower class or whatever, everyone's throwing fists. So it's a different culture. I think completely the way they think cuz somebody that lady who punched her, somebody probably did that to her before. So yeah, that's that's her way of like that lady who Yeah. The lady who's throwing hands. Oh yeah. That's not her first fight. She probably got hit like that. That's regular. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So to her it's not like Plus it wasn't like there was a silence and then she socked her like she just kept getting talked over. So is a point of like she just snapped and was like, "No, I'm like other girl deserved it." I don't think she des I don't think anybody I think she deserves it for being stupid. I just feel like anytime I see these these videos, these man on the street videos where someone's interviewing somebody and they're talking political and you can see one person getting charged up cuz nowadays,
9:17 bro, it's like you mention anything Trump, anything whatever, people you see their eyes, they get fired up. I just feel like people are ready to scrap. Like I saw this one video where emotional usually go to a protest. Yeah, exactly. when you're in those areas and this video I think was a protest where it was like a guy it was like a guy talking about Elon to some dude who happened to do jiu-jitsu and he like hit his hat and he shoved him he shoved his face and was like man get the ████ out of here and then the guy was like yo what the ████ I'm just trying to talk to you he drops his ████ takes him down and beats him up and it's like bro like you can't like a arm bar some he took him down and start punching him out and it's like bro you can't be Yeah you can't be messing around like that whenever you're talking to somebody cuz sometimes too. It's like some people don't really I think most people don't understand like the reality of violence really. Yeah. Some people are willing to
10:07 go there because it's like homie homie hit him in the face and shoved them like someone's hat off. To me it's like you guys are throwing hands off. Yeah. It's already there certain things you you do to another guy. It's like you have to expect this guy's going to punch you in the head or you're just not living on this planet. You know what I mean? Exactly. And he did that and then to him he was the way what kills me is that like he didn't think nothing was gonna happen like he was like yeah whatever. Well that just tells me he's been bullying people all his life and then he's doing things like violating people's personal space and doing things like that without even thinking he should be retaliated against and he gaslights others like you went too far ████ you antagonize. And going back to what you said it's like yeah we should be able to have a conversation about opposing viewers. We should be able to smack cats whenever we want. Yeah. Exactly. That's my deal. But most people when you talk about like things
10:58 that are emotionally charged, are they talking logically about it? No, not really. I don't even know them. And also most people too is like everyone thinks they're well read about these topics. They're really not. They're really not. And that's the thing that's frustrating. Me too. Me included. Yeah. Yeah. You're you're dealing with somebody who who doesn't have the ability to just say, "I don't ████ know enough." Yeah. Like all right. They get frustrated. They just talk to you. There was one my favorite interview where this dude goes up to this one guy and goes, "How many genders are there?" and he goes, "Uh, I just got here." I love that. Yes, bro. The best way to deal with any of that. I use like he's got to warm up into his emotions. Nick the frequency at which I use that statement when people ask me ████ I'm I just got here. I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what the ████ you talking about, man. That was the best. I'm trying to get on the bus. Subway, y'all. The like bro
11:50 just spawned on Earth. Yeah, bro. like uh that's a crazy loaded question. It's also the way that lady after she got socked how she was like oh my god it's that where you're like come on you should get socked and go I deserve that. But here's the thing though too is like in this lady's like cuz she she's obviously a content creator. She got socked out. This is probably I've never seen her before. No, I saw her now because she got socked out. So it's like is is she going to double down on this type of ████ Yeah, it's good for her. Is she going to be like you know what? I think I'm going to take a break from uh interviewing people to double down. Doing man on the street, you got to know that there's a possibility to get punched. Everybody who does that knows they could get hit. We know people that Yeah. got punched. Exactly. Yeah. If you're going to do that. Yeah. I feel like Yeah. Like I don't know. That's like a unawareness that some people have. Like I I think like you know like
12:40 I think some of you guys know like there's a a certain energy you have about you when like people know like okay not to go there with you. you know, it is a certain energy like you read. I I don't want to go there with you, but I will if I have to. Um, and some people just don't have that. Some people just trying to like find it, you know, are trying to find the line. Some people, it's not to say that they're like trying to antagonize, but it's almost like um it's almost like a mental illness of just like that's their default. It's like boys. Boys will be boys when they're young. It's not that they're always trying to just commit evil acts. They're just like, "Where's the how far can I go?" you know, and they just walk into the wall and they're like, "Oh, that's the wall. How far can I go this way?" And that's just how it is. You know, sometimes people, they don't see the fire in somebody's eyes. They're just like wall. They never had a wall before.
13:31 They're not reading how close the wall is and they're running full speed. But I do believe that's just how some people are, you know? And I think like when you hide behind like I had more faith in humanity than this, then you're like delusional. Life is not freaking everyone's cool with each other. But then ironically too, if some people who have no wall and are they just use that in a different skill set over here, they could also be like geniuses or entrepreneurs or something, right? It's just it's just a matter of like how that works for you. So man on the street, you're probably going to get popped. I think I think Ta is going to get socked up. Such a good good little ████ upgrade. At the same time, if he got sucked up, he might freaking arm bar that person who did it and then that person might be like, I'm I'm going to stop people. The t is like bullying is kind of cool when you know jiu-jitsu. is even better when you're the smaller one. Yeah, I smacked her hat and I beat them
14:23 up. Son of a beast. You're making a monster. Plus the topic of abortion out of all things to be mad on the street about. Like, you really don't think you're going to piss somebody off with something that's so divisive. And the funny thing is like people will hide behind, well, we need to talk about these issues. And I'm like, well, have an intelligent conversation with someone that can actually debate you. Don't just pick up someone off the street that's a ████ ████ That's why I think she was trying to smoke an easy target. Yeah, exactly. This is a ████ everyday working person. You don't even know what her history with abortion. She could have had abortion last week. You know, this ████ could be fresh on her ████ mind. ████ sore. You know, baby daddy is gone. You know, you don't know what people are going through. Leave them alone. fatigue. That issue abortion that like the the likelihood of someone changing their mind about that so small. But that's why
15:13 it's such a fake like honorable thing. Like it's kind of like when people used to do social experiments, right, to help people, but it's like, no, dude, you're doing shock factor things to get a ████ reaction. You're creating content so you can get people to watch this and say, "Oh, stupid liberal." Or, you know, like stupid Trump supporter. Whatever it is, there's further engagement. They're there to further separate this country. They're not doing to actually help people. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. That's why I don't like certain prank videos or like prank content creators. But so many of them are stage. It makes a dangerous precedence for other people that are doing real ones. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like so many of them are set up that like some other kid will go, "Oh, I can do that and I won't get shot." Like those boys that were going into hoods and then getting guns pulled on them and ████ Or the dude that got shot at the food court over the pranky or something.
16:04 He was like uh some like guy was picking up he was like a Uber Eats delivery or something and he was at the food court like picking up food. Some guy just started like messing with him and then the dude was like stop it and then he wouldn't stop so he just pulled out a gun, shot him in the stomach. Oh ████ Put it back in. Did he die? I don't think he died. No. Okay, good. But then like the dude was just like don't stop messing with me and he wouldn't stop and it was a prank channel but the dude it was like a very like small channel like nobody was following it and now it's like you know I don't know if he's going to keep doing it but like I would advise against how am I going to top this going to start playing mafu with my friends but like some people are ████ twisted like that too the next level get shot in the face on the next one and what he was doing wasn't even that crazy above like some of the staged prank prank videos and this dude got shot over it. So, it's
16:54 crazy. He's just the wrong guy. You mess with the wrong dude. You really do have to pick the right like target kind of if you're going to do like bits and pranks like that. I don't think the shooter got charged either. Good. I feel like they I feel like he was acquitted because he he had warned him to like get away from him. Must have been like in Texas or something. Yeah, that sounds like a Yeah. Yeah. Cuz that's why people are polite to each other. Yeah. Cuz you just don't know like people's mental space. That's why I don't ████ with people in in road rage situations. I don't either. Yeah, you must be in a rush. Go ahead, brother. You know, you know that group of dudes that like uh has like the whole basketball rim and they just throw a ball to something and they put it up. I hope I get caught by one of them one day. Throw the ball. Those ones are friendly. I'm going to try. No, I'm going to try. Or the soccer ones. Participate in that. I I hella like
17:44 those ones. catching a dude off guard and then like making their day cuz when they pass it's not a hard pass. It's like a nice little gentle and then they pick you up if you make it and they just throw you That's cool. Yeah, it's really cool. They hate you regardless. Like it's not putting people down. It's just like really funny as like a human experience. Yeah. It's like you're either being a good sport or you're not. That's like a carnival game versus like like going up to somebody like in the middle of Walmart being like just like oh that guy so much. Yeah. or just going going to Japan and saying Hiroshima Nagasaki over and over. The best. That's a that's a thing. The best man on the street show I've ever seen in New York is Eric Andre. He's the best one. Yeah, because he makes himself the clown. He's the one. He does one where he was like he was a construction worker and he got like he got filled with concrete by his waist and he's like, "Please help me. Help me. Help me." And he's like people grabbing ropes and
18:34 trying to pull them up. He's like he's like, "I need some ice cream. Can you get me some ice cream?" The guy brings back a cone. He's like, "Can you get some sprinkles?" They go back and sprinkle that. It's ridiculous. My favorite is when where where he runs he's like a criminal and a cop's chasing him. Remember that? And they run into his store making out. He's like grabs him. They start kissing. Everyone in the store's like, "Hey yo, someone call the cops. This is crazy. That ████ was real. Oh my god. Look at the registers like this. Everyone's just more concerned. Macking, bro. So crazy. That's so crazy. This is everyone in New York. They're like, "Hey yo, pause." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or when he has that wheelchair lady. Have you seen that? He has like a grandma like in a wheelchair and then he goes, "Can you watch her for just one second?" And then
19:24 he leaves and then the ████ wheelchair goes down the stairs. Oh yeah. Yeah. I've seen that one. He falls in the guy, what you did you push her? What' you do? And then the guy in the wheelchair is like, "He pushed me." So good. The levels of the bits are the best and it's underappreciated.
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