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The Asian Refugee Experience

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0:00 [Music] Welcome to another episode of Careful Boys. Today we have Jesus with us. >> Look how bad he wants to dance. >> Hey, do do any of you guys know um or did you ever know any illegal Asians? >> Yeah. >> What was their story? >> Suben. What? Come on. >> Oh ████ >> Subin's a straight up illegal for Trump. >> Who's Suben? >> He's one of the guys that's a regular guy that comes here. >> Oh, >> but he's not anymore, right? Cuz how how can he join the army? >> I thought it was so funny. >> I know Subin. I knew it. I smelled something funny. >> You know that guy. >> He didn't want me to get near his truck

0:50 or anything. >> I know some uh DACA DACA people. So that's gray area. It's not fully illegal, but it's like, you know, like when you get DACA status, it's because your parents came illegally, but they didn't believe that it should be fair that you were, you know, because you're a child at the time. So, you get DACA status >> and then um >> and it's funny though cuz their their DACA status was threatened, I think, under Trump or whatever, but there were Trump supporters >> while and it's like sub illegals for Trump. >> That is insane. Yeah, >> that's insane. >> Did any of you guys know any like classic illegal that just straight up? >> My dad was illegal >> cuz he swam here, right? >> Well, no, not from not here, but he uh so he was illegal from China to Hong Kong. >> Oh, yeah. >> And then he had to do a couple times, right? Like like it's like the common immigrant story where you have to try

1:40 many times before you make it or if you get caught, you get sent back. So, it's the same thing. Same same like very similar dynamic with like Mexico and America. So he tried multiple times. Then he finally was able to make it in Hong Kong and then I think he was able to get Hong Kong citizenship and then from there he was able to get a visa to come here. >> So it's like it's like multiple steps. >> Oh ████ My stepdad. >> Your stepdad was illegal. He came on a cargo ship. >> There you go. Yeah. >> What the heck? >> How did that story? It's like ████ How did you ████ hit it? >> He's He's so Americanized. I forgot in 3 minutes. Oh ████ Me. >> What the ████ >> A I'm illegal, dude. >> Wait, so what was the story? >> So in when he was a teenager, he heard that this ship was going to New York or

2:30 some ████ like that. So he just literally stowed away on a cargo ship, came to the States. >> Yeah. >> He wasn't even like a worker on there. He just straight up pretend. He pretended and then after a while it was just like, okay. But I guess a lot of people did that back in the day. >> And then he just got into this country and he said it was much easier back then to like come here and then like just kind of get your papers and then he ended up working for the US government. >> What the hell? >> Like yeah >> he he worked in ICE. >> That's so funny. >> I want to get Japanese illegal Japanese out of this country. >> I pulled a ladder way up behind me. >> But back then it was easy. They're coming out on the cruise ships. The US government is like a mailman. >> Wait, so how did he get his paper? >> Like DMV? >> I didn't ask him the specifics >> like in the 80s when Reagan was around

3:21 cuz Reagan was giving people papers. >> No, this guy's ancient. He just passed away. But he like he passed away in his like late 80s. So when he was 16, 17, you know, that was ancient America. But I remember back then too, not everyone had their social security. Like like people just, you know, they were just born and you didn't have your papers. like white people that were born here didn't have their papers. So that's like a new thing. >> So he came what in like the ' 60s? >> Oh, >> I don't know. I can't math. So he's 16, 17. He was like he passed recently. He was 88 I think. >> 50s. >> Yeah. GBT asht. >> So that was right. >> I'm a Japanese man that came >> right after World War II. I didn't ask him too much. Like I wish I did though. >> I didn't care. >> I was just living my life and I didn't really give a ████ but I didn't really want to talk to him that much. Yeah, >> it's so interesting that he did it that

4:11 way. >> You know what though? He did talk so ████ much that I was so annoyed of him >> that it was one of those things that I wish I wish I wish I'd asked more. >> That's also a crazy concept to be like a Japanese person >> and then like coming to America like right after the war. >> Yeah, >> that was right after >> cuz he's what is that? So 1945 is when it ended, right? So if what >> so even if he came in like the ' 50s and it was 1617 and he died in like eight, you know? Yeah. >> Couple years ago at 88 like Yeah. >> See, my thing is like when we put ourselves in their shoes, like imagine how crazy it is to like go through all that cargo ship or whatever it was. You swimming or dad swimming over here, >> you know? Like you get here and you don't know the language. >> You don't know like hey, and it's like just put yourself in that suit. Like >> no such thing as dualingo to help you.

5:03 >> You didn't know anybody, huh? you guys are they're just like and you where do you go and get now you have to get work and and it's just like bro you're starting from nothing and it must be insane like another world to just be like how the ████ am I going to survive here to see where you guys are at >> that's insane that's an insane ████ move >> my dad said the first place he went to was Hollywood Boulevard cuz he heard that's where the prostitutes were >> Oh well there you go >> some people will swim here for other reasons >> you know some people you Some people looking for work, you know. >> Serious statement. >> That's what he told me. That's what >> he came to America for white ████ >> He's like he wanted to know what white ████ felt like. He was like, "Oh, it's the same as the other ones." >> What the heck? >> It's a little bit more mustier, but it's just like the rest of them. >> It feel the same. >> Might as well go back now. >> And then I think his other cousin

5:53 >> was so good. He stayed here. He's like, "Oh, he's almost here." And then his other cousin went to like um like they all some of them split up, but his other cousin ended up going to um like Ohio or Illinois or something. And then I think like 10 years later he went to go visit them. And then he was like, "Dude," and it was crazy. He had a a white wife and their kids look so funny cuz they don't know what the hell they are. And I'm like, "Oh, they're just You mean like mixed kids?" He's like, "Yeah, they look so funny. Like they can't decide what they want to be." >> And I was like, >> "That's so crazy." I was like the, you know, that's white white. That's like ████ He went to the factory. He's like, you know, ████ the ████ up. >> His cousin ended up uh opening a Chinese restaurant. So, like, you know how like you go to random towns and there's a Chinese restaurant? That's the story. >> They just like, I don't know what to do. I guess I know how to make food. Let's just start a restaurant. >> Wow, dude. I trip out stories like that. That's insane.

6:43 >> That's like the default though for Chinese is like, >> I'mma open up a Chinese restaurant. Yeah. Or a laundromat >> cuz like that's the skill, you blows white people's minds. Holy sh this conch pal. Good job, dude. This >> what you what you did with this rice. I don't believe it. What is in this rice? >> Do you know do any of you guys know the process? Let's say that you got here illegally. Do you know the process to get your citizenship while living here illegally? >> You see, I don't even know, dude. >> I'm what you call a US citizen. I don't got to do any of that ████ dude. That really wasn't my >> hands on like um >> cuz you could My problem was to go to a Lincoln bar concert, dude. >> Get the new Eminem CD. You know what I'm saying? That's I had other issues >> cuz you could get like uh uh asylum and

7:36 all those different status. But I think it also depends on what point in American history you came in cuz for sure like when my stepdad came through during that time I heard it was easy as ████ >> Wow. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like my dad would tell me stories about like relatives that like were white complex and they would just walk in. They'll just say, "Oh, I'm going to get a citizen." They just walk in. So, basically, if uh if someone's living in the US without legal status, the path to cit citizenship is extremely limited and complicated. But the main ones are marriage to a US citizen with waiver. >> Parental path via US citizen children after age 21. >> Uh DACA does not lead to citizenship. Uh it provides work permits and protection from deportation, but it's not a path to a green card or citizenship. >> Oh wow. >> Asylum or refugee status. If someone

8:27 qualifies as a refugee or proves credible fear of persecution in their home country, they can apply for asylum even if undocumented. after one year as an asyl or refugee, they may apply for a green card and later for citizenship, which is what my parents did. Um, special programs and rare roots are U visa for crime victims who help law enforcement, TV visa for trafficking survivors, VAWA for abuse victims married to US citizens or residents, TPS is temporary protected status, which is very limited, and private bills in Congress, which is super rare. >> Wow. >> Oh, the the military service one's interesting. Did you see that? you you explaining it gave me a headache. I'm like, well, you got to do that dancer. >> That's why you guys never do it. >> Yeah, that's right. Like, oh, I'm going to keep working and see what happens. >> But he was a he was a legal immigrant, right? >> So, he was on a student visa, but then

9:18 his visa was about to run out because once you graduate, you got to go home, right? And so, he did while he was a student apply for citizenship. But, you know, there's a cap for each country. So it's like China's one of the hardest ones cuz there's so many Chinese trying to be here legally. If you're not balling, it's tough. So what he ended up doing was he joined the US military. >> Yeah, >> that's what it says here. >> That's what my cousin did, too. >> Yeah, it says undocumented immigrants serving honorably in the US military during specific periods may be eligible for green card or expedited citizenship. >> That's crazy. >> That makes sense. >> Like if you come put your life on the line to serve our country, that's basically the same as being like, "All right, street." >> Yeah. because you're proving your allegiance. >> Yeah. I mean, >> you might as well >> some citizens don't even let the boss do that. >> Yeah. And then there's also like people that fought for America or on America's side like with Afghanistan, Vietnam, all

10:10 that. And then when they lose, they get a chance to come here too cuz they're like >> Yeah. It even says that if you're let's say you're a citizen of the US and you you join the military, it says there's a you can file for your undocu undocumented family members to become citizens. >> Wow. Oh, >> wow. That's cool. I didn't even know that. >> Benefits. >> That's good. >> So, you can take your whole family basically if you do it. >> I know a lot of like Southeast Asians came because of uh refugee status from war, >> but the tone was so different back then. It was like I I find it kind of um weird where was not weird but it I think it's a cultural thing but they when the when that era happened it was like okay come into the country with open arms but all the Middle Eastern refugees right now America's like don't come in >> cuz like back then you know presidents

11:02 were were like um they were like allowing and then they even encouraged both people to come and then they had refugee camps like ready to go and then like they would have a processing system where you were Vietnamese, Cambodian, whatever. You came in and then they was like, "Okay, this is America. This is how we, you know, go to the hospital." And then they had an education thing and they would wait there until like different groups would come and sponsor them, whether it be relatives or churches or whatever. And then they would get like scooped up. >> Oh, >> yeah. But then there's no processing for people from the Middle East that are going through like Well, not in the same way. >> Yeah. Yeah. Not in the same way. Not in not in the big numbers. >> Sure. Yeah. There's there's a um I had a my dad's brother back in the 80s, he was here illegally cuz he had overstayed his visa and he was my favorite uncle. And

11:53 uh it's kind of funny because all the pictures I have with him like in the photo album, this fool looks hella sad. And you're just like, >> "Yeah, he I don't know what his normal face looks like cuz every photo he's going, >> I got the >> Because because the he knew that that's going to be the last time we see him because he was >> Now you made me cry. God damn." >> Yeah. Because he he had he was going to go he he's here to work. >> He can't go back. >> He came here and he got a job at like uh Ralph's or Albertson's or something and just like stacked up money and then he was just going to move back, but then he like stayed too long and then he we were just like my family's like, "Oh man, when you go back that's it." like unless we go there, we're just not. And I never saw that dude again. >> But like yeah, back in the '8s, that was my all the photos. I'm like now that I know his daughter and his granddaughter, I'm like I don't know this dude's smile at all. >> Oh man, it's all sad every day. >> We got to capture a sad moment.

12:44 >> Gross. Anthony, >> the what? What did he say? >> Cuz he likes uh dating family members. >> What the hell, dude? I knew something was off. I thought it was the glasses and the beanie in the summer, but I was like, "Wait a minute. Something's off. >> You could tell. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, you like your family members? >> Yeah, I like it. >> Oh, ████ dude. >> You would do great in Atlanta, don't you, dude? They got a lot of family members over there. >> I just heard from my dad like maybe a year or so ago. >> I just started like diving trying to dive more, too. You know, it's one of those morbid things like, you know, your parents are about to go soon, so you're trying to learn more ████ cuz you didn't care when you were younger. >> So, I'm asking him about like uh how his refugee experience was in general. Uh, and so he's just telling me about how they um him him and my mom didn't meet until they came to Hawaii. So they they he knew my mom's cousin cuz they were in

13:34 the Boy Scouts together in Vietnam. >> And then the whole Boy Scouts thing is like you couldn't even do Boy Scouts in Vietnam during the war. >> It's called Gay. It's a gay club. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. >> It's a gay club. >> Hey Ice, we have one. Hey man, >> we have one. He's right here. Dude, what the hell, dude? >> Boss alarm. Boss alarm. Why did you order my coffee hot, dude? No ice. >> No ice. >> So, they they take they take boats, right? They go by boat and they end up uh being refugees in Malaysia first. >> Yeah. >> And this whole period of time, like my dad, like, you know, Asian parents, they don't tell you stuff unless you like try so hard to ask. >> They're trying to bury their trauma, dude. They're like, why you bring that back up? Yeah, >> you know how to suck dick for apple. >> Yo, I didn't think about that. So, I'm

14:24 trying to get mad. Well, I'm trying to forget about that ████ You're here now. ████ >> The apple was camp like I had to fight for food. >> Did you say Did you say you had to suck dick for an apple? >> That's what I heard. >> I suck dick for apple. >> No, it's cuz I watched this refugee movie. >> You did for an orange. >> God forbid. >> It was a scene that happened in this refugee movie. Yeah. >> Oh, that really happened in a refuge in a movie that that there were these guys in a camp. Japanese refugees. >> Like he liked this girl and then like he was sad because she was hooking for a ████ apple. >> Okay. >> Apple. >> Yeah. >> I was like she gave up ████ for an apple, dude. >> A t-bone steak all >> it was some Vietnamese Chinese like

15:14 refugee film. But it was like it was that it was their it was in their language with subtitles and ████ Yeah. >> Oh ████ >> So what did he say when you told him? >> Well, now that you guys are conflating the fact that he had to suck dick for an apple. >> No, we didn't say that, dude. >> I guess the story's over, isn't it? >> The information got a little blurry like the hat you have on. It just it was crazy. So, okay, continue. He's got the apple. >> We got an illegal Japanese guy here, too. >> Get him out of here. >> So, now he's got the apple. What happens? Yeah. What happens next? >> Hunter never did that, by the way. Um, >> I did that. >> Yeah. So, uh, he talks about how in Malaysia, he was there for a little over 3 months. >> Mhm. >> And then my mom was there for like over like a year and they just had to continually wait until somebody who did make it to America would be able to

16:05 sponsor them. >> They were both in Malaysia. >> A bunch of people were just stuck in Malaysia and I was like, "What the ████ were you doing there?" And then my dad was like, "Well, you had to like build your like living situation, which that's how he got really really good at like certain Boy Scout skill stuff cuz he had to for real build stuff." And then it was a a total barter system of like trade and stuff in order to survive, aka suck dick for an apple. Wait, how do you how do you >> like build something to live in? Yeah. >> Yeah. Like he said he ended up every day it ended up becoming his like Malaysian lifestyle to go out into the forest, chop down trees and wood and then he would barter that wood to people and he built his shack with wood. >> Wait, so they it was a camp, but it wasn't like gated. It was just like >> they don't they give you an area.

16:55 >> Oh wow. >> And then they try their best. >> Damn. But like when you got like nothing but like thousands of thousands of refugees just showing up every single day, >> the humanitarian efforts are probably very skimpy. You know, >> there's not enough apples for how many people are down. >> Damn, dude. I don't know. It's like that's crazy. >> That's ████ insane. I never know. I don't even know that. >> Go out to the forest every day. We chop wood. We bring it back and then we like >> That's crazy. >> sell it to different people so that they can build their houses. >> Oh my god, dude. >> Dude, we're soft, huh? Yeah, I was I was just thinking of that. I was just thinking that look at my girl. >> We're the softest generation ever. >> Dude, if something happened like that and my my girl, dude, she's not going to get anything from me. I'm not going to be able to build ████ else when they came to the US. Or were they waiting there? >> They they they were put into like

17:45 another like refugee type of situation in uh in Hawaii, but it wasn't the same as like here's a plot of like uncharted land and survive while we figure ████ out. It was more like you get put into like different like programs here and stuff, but you know, they still had to do the typical thing once they like got out of being processed and >> who got through to sponsor them. >> So like one of my older uncles was able to make it first. >> Damn. >> How did he do that? That's crazy. >> I don't know. I think it's maybe like lottery or luck of the draw, whoever can be. >> It was meant to be. He's meant to be here, dude. To be here on a laptop wearing a hat that's blurry. They did all that for him to do this. Put that down. Put that phone down. Put that phone down. >> No. No. We still got more. Two more videos. We need him for two more videos. >> Confused. There's nobody here. There's nobody here. >> Holy ████ >> I came to America so my kids could be

18:37 clowns. >> It's meant to be. >> We're all trying to We all realize our grandberries did all this. We're all just like We're like, "Hey, what did that ████ do with my life?" pass.

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