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AITA For Not Going to my Daughter's Wedding Over THIS?

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0:00 happy Black Friday everyone we have a special deal going on everything is 30% off from this hoodie fear everyone careful boys merch including the fear everyone socks link is in the description box below it's going to end at the end of the month so go now it depends on the context and also like who's going to go to Reddit and tell the most unbias side of the story yeah like oh my my husband was an alcoholic after I divorced his ass and he drank himself to [Laughter] [Music] death and we are going to be chiming in on an am I the beole self-centered self-censored that makes it sound so much worse am I

0:51 the that is kind of worse song Can you bleep his bleep what if I go am I the ass beep no cuz the ass is the part that's going to you just said he he points it out to we almost had it D sometimes censoring can be more inappropriate than actually hearing the word yeah like that one gamer whose name was Nasser did you see that so his name yeah his name was Nasser and he then the the game asterisk ass so it looks like he's saying he looks like his name is the NW instead oh my goodness that's hilarious though I was editing one of the JK videos and Bart said vinegar and means like you got to censor that I'm like why do you have to oh wait when I broke it down wow I never realized what that word was you know bar was really try to say for

1:41 real oh my hey this one actually just got removed oh my god wow why cuz it was that bad I don't know now it's locked the article yeah what well you know what luckily I have a bunch of these articles so we're going to just chime in on another one oh you can't see it anymore you think the the the the op like dis deleted their own post maybe maybe yeah got caught yeah all right my family members maybe they Expos his identity am I the for refusing to sit next to a picture of my late husband and telling my daughter I will not be going to her wedding if that is her plan so what ████ my late husband and I didn't have a good relationship ████ him go to hell he struggled with alcoholism and ultimately drank himself to death after I divorced

2:31 him after some time you made sad ████ it's always her fault yes after some time I remarried but my daughter doesn't get along with my new husband they have a strained relationship and I married him while she was in college so she has hated that I've remarried and is kind of a dick to my husband my daughter is getting married soon and while I'm excited for her I've had some concerns about how she's planning the wedding she mentioned wanting to include a picture of my late husband at the ceremony which I completely understand as a way to honor him however she also wants me to sit next to his picture during the ceremony and my husband would sit elsewhere I told her that I'm not comfortable with that arrangement I also learned she wanted me to sit with a picture at the family table and my husband wouldn't be sitting there either where the ████ is he going to sit I told

3:21 her no she got upset and said I was being selfish and dis disrespectful to her and her father's memory I told her if that's her plan I won't be able to attend the wedding she called me a jerk and now my family's involved oh ████ dude weddings make everybody feel so ████ weird dude there's always anytime there's a wedding there's always some weird Clash always family drama right yeah over some ████ it's like did you have that for yours no well no not really ours was small but like because it was small we didn't really have any like drama so it could have been if it wasn't if you couldn't use the co excuse of like sorry we can only have this many people like thank God that ████ op didn't come or like whatever for sure for sure but like we had friends that just went to a wedding and like there was all this drama between the the groom's family and the bride's family

4:11 and like the city within within each other or against each other within each other so like in their own family yeah there's always something right I think bringing family drama to a wedding is really petty and stupid well I think a lot of times they I don't want to say they make it about themselves but in their own way they do right it seems like but I could I can understand why the mom wants to sit next to her ████ husband right like her actual yeah husband you can't sit next to both you can't sit next to to that it seems like the daughter is purposely trying to put her in a weird situation well cuz she doesn't like her ████ new husband clearly right and and then she's probably also like this is my wedding let me just have it my way as well think a wedding though either though like that's that's the whole point is like it's my wedding I'm paying for this so I want to do it the way I want to do it and if you don't want to do it that way then go ████ yourself which is fair it's not impeding on somebody else's like

5:02 that's your mom though yeah yeah that's your mom that's different like but this just tells me they got a ████ up relationship to begin with right cuz she doesn't get along with her new husband the daughter right she didn't explain why right that's a big mystery to me cuz the way she's treating it is She ████ hates this guy she doesn't even want him there is that reasonable to say like I don't want the stepdad like he's I don't think he should be at my wedding I think that's reasonable if you don't like a stepdad depends on the context and also like who's going to go to Reddit and tell the most unbiased side of the story yeah like oh my my husband was an alcoholic after I divorced his ass and he ████ drank himself to [Laughter] death I mean you know you don't know I

5:52 you you take for the sake of objectivity and participating in these things you take the word for what it is face value and then we do alternate universe right after like the other side I think JK news has to be careful with that that's why we're the careful boys we take alternate we have to acknowledge empathetically like it just doesn't if if this guy was a vile human being like her ex-husband like he was a horrible ████ why would the daughter want to honor him at all cuz she had a different relationship completely is true usually when people hate someone in the family they were they were ████ up to everybody everybody and then they' like ████ this guy but then there's like you know Daddy's girl though you know well I mean okay so my in my family my

6:42 dad my my grandpa was an alcoholic and uh my grandma divorced him because he ████ gambled all the properties away and wait gambled property away yeah they're loaded they had like three four homes and then and he put He like yeah and he he and he he loved his hookers and he loved his ████ alcohol I asked my mom if she had any resentment toward him and she goes no I liked when he was drunk he was the most happiest dude on on Earth he wasn't a mean drunk he was just drunk all the time but he wasn't abusive he was whatever she goes so my personal relationship with my father was great but my like my grandma was like you pathetic ████ you know like I always have to ████ you know so in that situation

7:33 yeah it might be similar to here where it's like he was a he was like maybe like a good dad in that sense but then like a horrible husband it could happen too right yeah could happen but like why can't they just get over their ████ differences there's so many red flags here she doesn't like her new husband she's being ████ Petty about it even the mom is like she won't she I would just tell my ████ hus my new husband like look this is my past other life like you don't have to ████ be at this wedding but I'm just going to go and I think it' be better if you just don't go especially because of how you guys are dealing like you guys don't get along like yeah but then for her her new life and her her husband is way more important than her daughter and her past life yeah I see that a lot that's hard though because her past life sure but

8:23 your daughter is like still in your new life you know you want your mom to be alone at the wedding by herself just the photo of the late husband he she has to carry it around too like it's a funeral did the late husband die where'd he go that's that's yeah that's why that's what late is uh in terms of the terminology he RSVP for the ████ it's a character flaw he's drunk all the time 40 minutes late all the time that's why we need a photo of him so he's present yeah that that's a tough one because like usually if it's not an absurd request like even when uh you know you consult with your friends or people asking you advice on like their own weddings and stuff like that one of the most like foundational like idealisms is like hey it's your wedding like do you know like dream first try to hit those dreams and whatever like

9:15 little compromises that have to occur that they do have to occur for the sake of family you know like make them reasonable don't sacrifice like your most core dreams but if this happens to be this girl's core dream to like see her parents together which like in poetry sounds so practical and beautiful to like you know her memory of her parents and like maybe she really hates this new husband it's like dang like if you are on her side you could understand her request to for like Optics or for whatever but then like if if it's really like you love your mother and this mother hated her ex-husband and loves her new husband yeah where's the compromise on those sides no one's compromising that's why this family is kind of weird to me you got to have a little bit of both like not like the daughter doesn't want to do it the mom

10:05 doesn't want to do it like it's weird she should be able to bring her so what is a good compromise she should be able to sit next to the ████ photo and sit next to her goddamn step uh her her her new husband I think that's the easiest like all parties and it's not like they're going to be it's moment the photo is looking at the new husband they're just staring at each other the whole meal I just don't understand why the ████ would you want a photo of your dead ass dad at the wedding it's a that's like a funeral that's what they do at funeral seen most tables have like a most weddings have a memorial table of all the people who are like dead and couldn't really okay that that like one of the table it's a separate table yeah not the dinner table dinner table why is that necess cuz you got to pay for that seat it's going to throw out the whole seating chart you know yeah I I never seen that so to me

10:55 it was weird cuz I'm just associating like a funeral when you see a casket and the you know person there the photos there yeah but it's not the casket big ass vertical casket we're going to bring the open casket we got to dig his ass up open that ████ up he's in a tuxedo and ████ yeah I don't know that if if that's what some okay so like I'm trying to picture myself if I was the Mom it's my it's my daughter's wedding right so whatever she wants then I just ████ comply that there's no compromise from the mom can you remind me did she say that she doesn't want the stepdad there at all no she said she doesn't want him to sit in in the family thing yeah that like that to me is like that's that's a petty thing that's Petty AB that's some lady stuff sorry CLE that's when ladies

11:46 do to other ladies you know she said it was I said it's lady stuff you know to not make it awkward I just asked my husband and like stay home like why does he have to go or maybe I just don't give a ████ that's why are inseparable you know I I have a situation in my family as well where um we have a family riff because one of my UNC he had a he made a new family a long time ago he has a double family got a double F oh man now here's the problem with it he uh the problem is it happened in Vietnam and then the way that like us ghetto Asian families work when you travel to Vietnam and stuff like that you know you're was like trying to figure out different places to stay so you stay at like you know your your brothers or your sisters or you know your family's house but then that's

12:36 where you meet the the new family meet the kids and the kids kids are always innocent right it's never their fault yeah but then when you find out about so for example I remember me and my sister we went over there years ago so we found out about it but we're kids too we're in a s we didn't make any choices but we know you got new cousins but we know so but then it's also like do you tell do you tell our other cousins but it's like oh it's not our place that's not our place do you know you got half brothers and sisters that's wild dude that's not our place and they didn't know they don't know that's hard but they decided to let to let the the kids know when they turned of age and then when the kids found out that some of us knew cuz we're older oh no waiting until they're of age is even weirder the whole family got split in

13:27 half on some ████ right why don't you tell me yeah and that's so that's so complex because like I understand your rage and resentment you're like I didn't I didn't create another family I didn't do that from every angle depending on your intentions there's something bad that comes out of it no matter what no matter what and it's not it wasn't our actions we was just you know even as kids we're just following our parents in where we where we have to stayd getting mad at the other cousins is wild bro yeah but like that happened to the point where even at my sister and here's the thing like I don't blame them for their anger at all I like totally like if there was a right answer I I would have done it you know but even at like my sister's wedding like there was because like the that Uncle was invited a bunch of the family just didn't even show up to certain things how does he

14:18 keep that a secret for 18 years like what well that's the thing it was it that's the that was the issue with the family it wasn't a secret where everybody found at the same time as people slowly found out cuz they would like go and visit and then why would he show you like surprise I have another family because at the end of the day the most important thing maybe for him was to like like accept like this is a part of my life now like accept me for that but I didn't tell my wife yet dude double family is hard oh my that's a that's a nightmare he's the ████ for not 100% he was ass you that's an might the ████ the ████ have two families yeah and then the way he does it too is like yeah come stay at my house of Vietnam and then you go by the way I have a l of family you never

15:08 you never heard of a soft open yeah that's the thing though there's there's only one ████ in the situation in this in this there's only one actual ████ in it but in terms of like how the family received it half of us are ████ yeah but you can't avoid that right yeah you're you're an ████ for this reason or that one right so are you happy that you didn't tell or do you wish you would have told it's never going to be my place like it's not my place better be hated by the other family for telling the secret than the cousin you were on vacation they'll be pissed at you for either one of those decisions you and like yeah I was a kid I don't I don't even know the repercussions of that stuff yet you know you're just kind of like and then also like I said that the children are always innocent not just our side but even like what about the other kid why didn't you just say I didn't know right it could have just been like I never was never

15:58 told but part of it is like you could understand their their anger towards you guys and other cousins and stuff but it's still misdirected right like it's still like not still not fair they should just get mad at the ████ dad see the the only thing I could do was it never works out that not get mad back yeah you just take it I hear you I hear you I hear you man I would have been ████ you too D you don't you don't understand nothing maybe the dad's paying all their bills cuz also too like that was happening there might be a world where they just come around they realize like oh yeah like I'm kind of over it now I see that like this is not that crazy that I had more brothers and sisters that I couldn't play with and you've been holding that away from me you're hoping for a second family out there really optimistic like real full you know how many times I went to the backyard and played soccer by myself

16:50 and you're telling me we had three other ████ that I could have kicked the ball to come on a small team that's the I think that is the give and reaction if if you didn't have a big if you didn't have a lot of siblings your age I always wanted some brothers yeah but imagine if you did and this no but the and the anger point is not about that the anger point cuz I don't even think they're like mad at the kids it's just like you did this to my mom how could you do that to cuz she didn't know she didn't know that's for sure the hardest and that's so reasonable yeah but then it's also like the other the other Mom it's like she's not a villain no she might be like the perceived antagonist of the story yeah all what's worse what's worse someone fathered like your your dad had another family he

17:42 fathered another family or he was Mr Affairs Mr Affairs yeah like no oh like multiple Affairs but he's like a Mr Mr player player oh was it love or just lust good question I don't know all the above combo of everything but no kids no kids I think if it was if it was like just Affairs and lust I think that's like like I would rather have that short-term anger but then if there's like a whole ass family there's a lot of like conflicted like the rest of our lives type ████ like there maybe with There's Hope with the affair thing to be like cut that ████ out oh you know like you ████ up and like this is how you're going to pay for a family blah blah and like but there's no extra baggage that you're like thinking about worry about where's the other one it ends when it ends now I'm like I got

18:33 half brothers and sisters and those are Mouse to yeah yeah totally different it's like so you could have been giving me Christmas gifts but instead of giving me the ████ dinosaur I wanted you had to ████ split that with six other kids yeah like that's that's crazy I actually think fathering another family isn't as bad isn't as bad nope wow because it's it's honorable is it to your mom cuz he stuck with cuz he still carried out so like responsibility yeah so it's like he had don't know and then he's not having other Affairs right whereas like that it started with an affair but the yeah it is an affair multiple times like let's say he let's say he had kids and he staying as a father let's say in same situation where he had kids right if he

19:23 bounced on the family I would actually be disappointed but if he fathered that family he bounced on your family to make a family no but oh in that situation I thought he's going back and forth well he's going back and forth but I'm just saying yeah no he's living a double life so and also like what quality of a father can he be if he's going back and forth that's 50% father I don't know man a lot of military guys are always out and and and they're they're they're gone for half of the Year anyway if he if he's making enough money to Father two families he can't be dividing his time very well right and if you have a second family have didn't you just commit the one cardinal sin about being a bad father so so okay let me it's honorable to joke hold on hold on hold hold on hold on hold on hold on it's honorable because he made a mistake and now he has responsibilities that he didn't just shrug shrug away I think okay let's say this okay they're

20:16 having an affair right yeah I think that it's worse that if they were a dead beat dad and they're running away from their uh Affair children then splitting up time between this our family and that family and actually raising the kid I think that's actually a better human being than someone that might give me all their attention and time but they've abandoned their their bastard kid made a commitment but but the two families just seems like so much more of a complex lie to have carried out for so long that that the sin has already been committed so now we're reassessing the situation you're already this s█████ person now are you going to even s███████ or you going to be at least that's not as s█████ up but that's not as s█████ as as completely abandoning a oopsie so he's he's a he's a he's a responsible s█████ but now

21:07 you're but now you're comparing uh the two things are you have a family another family either way and the dad's either ditching or staying the first prop you were saying just cheating no I I changed it I changed it that's okay well then of course if they're going to have the other family anywh that don't ditch but then like if you have if if you make an oopsy extra family but it's not no longer secret and now it's like hey I made this mistake we're all gonna have to live with this that's different than if you had a secret family for 18 years yeah so it would be an immediate you're saying that immediate is is is more like an honorable trait than to hold it for 18 years and then tell them oh yeah you're living I think it's super dishonorable to lie I think that's the best you can do if you screwed up that bad right I think you should own up to your mistakes but isn't there like a

21:59 little bit of you where you're like hoping that both of your wives meet and then they like each other too that's best SC no that's optim I read Steve aoki's biography and his dad is the owner of Bennie Hana and that happened he he moved here and then he had a separate life and they didn't know about it until he got into a crazy speedboat accident and then he woke up into the hospital with both of his wives there and that was the way he they found out was in the hospital going and visit that's the most honorable I think that's an ambitious father that I respect

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