0:00 because RFK was picking up traction and I don't I'm not an RFK guy at all but he should have been allowed to have his voice he should have that's why he had to run as independent even though it's like a raspy voice right I mean I think that's going to be his downfall because imagine if he actually end up running for president can you imagine the memes vice president Macy [Laughter] [Music] Gray and welcome back everybody to another extremely cancelable episode of the careful boy give us your best shot give uh maybe not well we have today Matt Kim with us yay um so recently you posted something on Instagram that I have no idea about great Leen something amazing doing
0:51 our homework fantastic best interviewer ever take that Tucker wa you interviewed him never mind take that Andrew take go for it so I was in Iowa this weekend for the Iowa caucus um if you're not familiar it's Iowa caucus and that's where the Republicans decide who's going to be the Presidential nominee uh for the Republican party so I was over there for the event and I tried to go to a Ron Des santis event I applied via their website for the event um the night before and the day of after I was at a trump rally and the day of right after the Trump rally ended they called me they called me and they're like hey we're trying to speak to Matt Kim uh we want to make sure that you know we're going to see if you're going to come because of the weather cuz it was like -2° and it was snowing and the weather
1:41 was horrible we decided we're going to move the event up from 8:30 7:00 so we just want to make sure that you're going to arrive I said yeah of course I'm going to be there I got your text message and they're like yeah great like we just wanted to confirm amazing the guy I was with who was also applied for the same event he didn't get the phone call okay weird so I show up to the event and I walk in the door wait so the people you were with you guys all decided to go together to the to to see the primary the Republican primary yeah I just wanted to go be a part of the Town Hall like I just wanted to go in like people ████ on Ronda sandas all the time so I'm curious like what does he got to say like what's the event like were you wearing your mega hat I was not wearing a mega hat um but I was at the Trump rally early in the day like I'm all the way in Iowa I want to see the political process up close like why not right so I
2:33 go to the event and I take maybe two steps in the door and two steps in the door security I mean like 64 like like one of these guys like hey I I got to talk to you I'm like all right weird and they're like wait a second you're like hey can we just talk to you over here by the door so they pull me outside into like that little gap between like the main entrance and and kind of the secondary entrance and he's like yeah you know like we we had problems with someone here before and um you know the guy kind of looked like you what so Asian guy in Iowa yeah like yeah he kind of looked like you so we just want to make sure he's talking to me and he goes and he takes a picture right I'm like all right weird and then he like he's like talking to me and he does like this and he's like you got to go huh I'm like really
3:23 like why he's like look it's private property you got to get out of here I was like this is ████ like there's no reason I'm getting kicked out you guys actually called me to make sure I was coming do you have like a pass or anything you can show him or did no no like he bought a ticket like yeah no it is free but you have to sign up yeah they knew I was coming cuz they literally called me to confirm I was coming and like look it's private property you got to go what if there's another Asian like person that was there the other day and they were doing some like smear thing of like protesting and they're like an Environ Al guy or whatever and then they're just like ████ man these ████ Chinese people coming in here no more ching chong no more Ching CHS yeah no the night before that's this was Sunday the night before on Sunday on Saturday um someone at a
4:15 raw descend this town hall had gone up to stage and presented him with a participation trophy oh yeah I saw that yeah oh it's your twin brother and I mean obviously doesn't look like me at all no he that guy was like Mexican or white or something right yeah and that no one even knows who that guy was it just happened like organically out of nowhere and I think they were so embarrassed by that because I mean r sat there and accepted it until they realized oh ████ they're trolling me it took like a full 30 seconds and like security like everyone let it happen and then his wife cases and had to step in between and like protect him which is like really demasculate and that kind of just happened all over the Internet so I think they were just really on edge and I had taken a picture earlier that day that went online with um a girl named
5:07 Laura lomer who is like really well known within Twitter of being kind of this in-your-face investigative journalist and they've kicked her out of the event the night before and uh the Dilly meme team which is like known for making these memes and always like ████ on the sand campaign so because there was a picture of me with these two people oh they thought you were probably going to do they thought I was going to be a I see wow because they kicked me out wait until you see all the spots you kicked out because you're ████ oh yeah you thought it was bad you think you cancel hey is there a good bubble tea place I can go instead maybe maybe 10% off yeah I'll have to fly out of a different airport yeah so I left the I left the event after they kicked me out and I walked next door to a restaurant I'm like all right it's freezing I haven't eaten all day I'm just going to go next
5:58 door and grab a bite tea before I move on to whatever else I want to do I walk into the restaurant and this Chey stops me like look you're not allowed in here either I'm like what are you talking about they followed you or separate security separate security what the ████ so everybody just got your ████ photo like passed around that whole area they're like this is the same property and if you're not allowed there you're you're not allowed in here do all these people have the ████ curly wire in their ear I have no idea what's going on I'm freezing my balls up I just want to grab a burger and like figure out what my next move is cuz I didn't not expect to get kicked out yeah and they're like you got to go so I left were your friends there too or you just by yourself or so the guys with the Dilly meme team um they they had no intent on going in because they're kind of known to the campaign so what they did and they had no idea I was
6:49 getting kicked out cuz we separated I'm going to go in and they're going to go eat but you know they ended up hanging out in front of the Ron de santz tour bus smoking cigars and and they're sitting outside smoking cigars and Ron de Sanz were so scared to run into these guys in person that he wouldn't get out of his tour bus what and he sat in the tour bus and held up the entire event for 30 minutes wow while they were outside smoking a cigar so there's five security guys standing in front of them and Brendan who kind of runs their thing over there he's like look like you know I'm not do anything right like everyone like there's security here there's cameras here like I'm just here like I'm allowed to be here and they're like oh yes sir they're still outside he wouldn't he wouldn't leave the tour bus because he was he was
7:40 scared of getting trolled and I'm like how can you be running for president if you're scared of a little bit of social media pressure like you have to be able to handle this so I thought that was a really weird like really weird odd thing so after I get kicked out of this Ronda santz event there is a guy in a wheelchair I didn't know him before this but he had the Dilly meme Team hat on I guess security didn't notice when he walked into when he rolled in I'm sorry he didn't walk when he rolled into the event the security saw him in a wheelchair and they put him in the front row oh nice because it looks really good on camera right in front of the media look there's a guy in a wheelchair here right in the front row supporting Ron but they didn't know that he was a supporter of the of of
8:30 to them the enemy wow so he's sitting there just watching didn't say a word it's he's like 40 50 years old um he's just sitting there listening causing no problem whatsoever he's just sitting up front and and it's not his fault he's sitting number one number two it's not his fault he's up front they put him there as soon as i k get kicked out they're like oh ████ there's another guy so they grabbed his wheelchair and they removed him and they put him outside oh who how are you going to take a guy grab his wheelchair which is like totally against like the rules of like handicapped you like your wheelchair is an extension of yourself so they separated him or you mean they just grabbed all grabbed his wheelchair and they they moved him out yeah no they did like physically that' be the same thing as if someone gra just didn't removed you that's exactly the same at least to
9:20 that Community right because that is how they move yeah that's their legs exactly and they just grabbed them and again - 20° outside damn just put him outside in the cold damn damn I hope he was wearing a sweater 20 bro yeah and they're just like you got to get out of here and he's like dude I didn't do anything and he's like you got to go and it was like the weirdest experience because on the flip side you know I was there and once the Trump campaign found out I was there they were like hey you want to see inside like you know people watch you people trust you like you can come in and see everything going on in the campaign and they literally gave me like this Trump pass to like go behind the scenes and they're like I I thought when they gave me a pass to go behind the scenes of their campaign they would be like all right here are like some rules here are some like things you can talk
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12:44 transparent like they never once were like all right let me see what you're going to post let me see what you're going to talk about here's are the things you can talk about like literally nothing they're like here's where everyone's going to be hanging out here here's a patch you can walk walk everywhere you are and oh yeah here you can meet Don Jr you can meet Eric Trump you can meet Carrie Lake you can like interview whoever you want like it's up to you again free free roam and the other side's like you can't walk in it's so different on how you be treated you know so that experience itself was just so wild cuz I never thought in a million years that I would be kicked out for being like independent and freee thinking and just be associating and what happened like to be guilty by association it's such a weird thing and like it's
13:34 something that we all struggle with these days that we are guilty because we're friends with this person we are guilty because we support this person we are guilty because we believe in this it's like the thing that's become most it's something that we all think is not right with the world right now right ever since 20120 to now Guilty By Association and for them to literally practice that in real real life it was just the oddest experience meatball Ron is that what call meall R meatball ronb the sanctimonious I think they just call Meatball I don't know why they call Meatball Ron yeah do you know why they call him meatball Ron I I don't know where the meatball Ron came from it's catchy though but people also don't call him Ron anymore they just call him Rob or Rick or they just um knowingly mispronounced his name
14:24 that was your smear campaign concept earlier yeah we talked about that the wrong name saying I thought it was uh they they always said uh Trump said um disan demonus disan demonus people R you think you'll end up just being Biden versus Trump yeah I mean it'll either be Biden vers Trump that's exactly who it is now anyone that thinks currently that is just lying to you because no way anyone other than Trump is on the right right it's impossible the only way is if they literally forcefully prevent him through some weird unforeseen circumstance right the other side is definitely Joe Biden and the only way it would be is if like right leading up to the election time like look like there's health issues he can't do it anymore and he would potentially gracefully bow out and then they would have to change some election laws because like you're
15:15 supposed to be on the ballot by now they would change some election laws because you know like changing election laws right before election is a thing now and they would have to change some election laws and most likely they would put in someone like a Obama or Gavin duome wow but even if they haven't been running this whole time like shouldn't it be like camalo or something I mean they're supposed to be yeah like having a Democratic primary and people should be putting up their names up for a potential candidate now people don't know that there are actually two other candidates running on the Democratic side yep they are just not allowed on the Democratic ballot so the DNC is not allowing them to be on the Democratic primary ballot in pretty much every single State wow but they act actively campaigning they actually Andrew Yang's trying to promote one of the guys yeah
16:05 so there is Maran Williamson and Dean Phillips I've never heard of any of these people yeah no one's ever heard of that's bad right I should know who they are but they have like you're a bad guy I'm bad guy they have like 5 to 8% of the actual Democratic vote both of them do so that would put them about the same level as a VI Grandma Swami put them the same level as a Ronda santis now put them the same level as a Nikki Haley like they actually have traction but they're not allowed to be on the DNC ballot which is crazy right because they're always like Joe Biden is always like Mega Republicans are going to steal your democracy but then they don't allow the Democratic process like why aren't they allowed to be on bot why can't I mean look at what they did to Bernie the craziest yeah they snubbed them hard because RFK was picking up traction and I don't I'm not an RFK guy at all but he
16:58 should have been allowed to have his voice you should have that's why he had to run as independent even though it's like a raspy voice right I mean I think that's going to be his downfall because imagine if you actually end up running for president can you imagine the memes vice president Macy Gray do you think he actually has a chance or no uh RFK cuz like we've never seen an independent win but do you think I don't I don't think he has a chance at all really how come because you need to be you need the support of the machine like at some point you need the money it's so expensive to run for president number one number two the memes the his voice is going to crush him because once people start making all the funny clips about him and he's got a really checkered history and people don't talk about now but that's definitely come it'll smear it'll come out as a smear like he has history of like you know blatant drug use things like this that's
17:48 definitely a resurface people don't talk about it now cuz he's actually not as big and not a threat yet but that will come out I don't think he survives that but his but the but the story arc for him is I I think the most interesting about coming back and the Revenge story about his father and his uncle and he's going to come in and ████ dismantle all the agencies I think I love that story arc yeah do you think who do you think would be the one to if they do did need to run a smear you think it would be coming from the Democratic side or the Republican side I think both yeah I I don't think I don't think the right fears RFK at all because if you have RFK I think Trump is is a bigger better candidate he's got named brand value I think if RFK were to run I think he run into a problem because right now he's like I represent the every man that's kind of his thing people relate to him
18:39 but then once people realize he's actually a Kennedy and being a Kennedy means he's actually part of the biggest royal royal political family in the history of America it's like all right he's actually not one of us he's actually a part of the machine I think that's going to become a narrative that becomes hits a little bit harder like I like a lot of of his ideas but they haven't gone after him yet and once they go after him I don't think he survives it he's got too many skeletons in the back in in the back so you just think it's he might have his heart in the right place but because of his connection like he I don't think he survived he just has a Target on his back yeah yeah cuz right now it easy to remove him because all they had to do was kind of push him away from the Democratic party and then force him become Republican I mean to become independent and once you become an independent your campaign kind of goes to die like how often you hear of RFK
19:29 anymore like almost never right um so I think that's going to be the hardest battle for him I don't think he has enough legs to kind of push through I just don't and it sucks because some of his ideas I think are fresh and he's willing to say some of the things that people don't agree with but again once he goes kind of bigger mainstream I don't think he survives it yeah I think um his voter base though will be more similar to the Vivic and the trumps and the and and if anyone from the left who was like well I don't want to vote right they would probably vote for RFK someone who's more anti-establishment on the left um but I don't really see another candidate like that on the left that's probably why he went independent Bernie was the closest guy and and he's kind of way too old now um yeah it's interesting I I was watching this uh podcast with
20:19 Roger Stone he was uh Trump's campaign manager he's been in politics for hella years right stone is a chi yeah and and so he was saying that if there is a a candidate that's going to swap out with Biden he thinks it's Michelle Obama or uh call Calla first and and then they're like wait you don't think he's going to be Gavin Newsome and he goes well the D the the Democratic party right now they just can't like they can't have a white man be president and put the uh the uh like Michelle or K on the side like he's going to have to run as Vice and I'm like oh wow cuz he's like the play that they do is like they'll be a hypocrite and they'll be eaten up by their own party so I was like wow that's interesting yeah Gavin Nome is being primed to be the 2028 candidate for sure
21:12 um he is if you're in California and you don't like what he's done he is not going away he will they are priming him to be the 2028 candidate for sure and if he has to be VP now then he'll probably be 2032 right because hopefully they're trying to do it that's Bart's favorite guy by the way that's the part that makes me so sad because I'm like damn why are people so ████ ████ like he ████ up San Francisco already and then people like we should make him Governor well they try to recall him and then they he ████ up California they try to recall him no we definitely want him now and they put him back in now he ████ up California for a second time like we definitely need him for president I'm like what the ████ is going On's promote him yeah you know how people actually vote dude they go he looks cool like most people they don't ████ think they don't read policy they don't
22:02 do any of that they look at a human being and they go that man looks like a leader he speaks well I like him who's this old ████ uh who cares and Gavin Nome is probably the best politician out there cuz he's so good with his words he is so polished he says a lot of nothing he has a punchable face though dud he's a guy he leads with one truth and then follows up with 99 lies so when you hear him you're like oh yeah he just told something true and then he takes you off guard and all of a sudden it's just like lie Li the kids would call that RZ but he is phenomenal political yeah political R he is so good at what he does so I think that's someone that people should be aware of about what's going on and the Democratic Party Works in a very different way than I think the
22:52 right the DNC especially the Democratic National Committee they work they are very party affiliated people so if the DNC makes a decision everyone has to follow the party line that's just how they work right so it's top down if this is what we tell everyone you have to believe anyone that falls out of line of what our narrative is they will crush you and kick you out that's why it seems like the Democrat Party is always kind of speaking the same word and same politics all the time because that's how they operate you're not allowed to leave the lines it's impossible M if you say something that goes against the party we will put you in Scandal and we will remove you so everyone follows the rules that's just how it is on the Republican side they're a little more like that they used to be like that also and then
23:43 this orange man showed up it's like no I'm going to do it my way and people like holy ████ now I what to do and that just really disrupted the entire Republican party because the people that control the top of the Republican party they hate Trump cuz they lost the control they lost control well both parties I heard used to operate that way from Bush and pre previously the the Republican party was the same as the Democrat in the way they operated their sponsors were the same it was completely the the same way and and I heard that well with Trump he's been a Democrat all of his life but when he decided to run for politics they did an analysis and said you probably win on the right so he kind of flipped and then started talking to the people the same people that Obama spoke to to win the working class Americans which Hillary completely
24:34 forgot it when she did the campaign and lost because it was all about her and big city and and social snobs and I was like damn that's crazy both guys Obama and Trump one speaking to the average human being in manufacturing and work and and and and just like blue collared work and stuff like that and I'm like damn that's crazy how it works where people are just looking at these different even strategies of how to win and and so what have you witnessed that personally like watching it in the right seeing how different camps operate yeah I mean I when people think about Mega right because that's like such a polarizing word and people think that people that associate with mega are just taking Trump's talking points and regurgitating them that's kind of what people think right that Trump says something everyone repeats it it's
25:25 actually the opposite people within in a movement talk and talk about what in their lives is bothering them what in their lives that they see as irregularities in the world and he's listening to what people are talking about and focusing on those issues so he consumes like everything he knows everything about everything going on in the country what everyone is talking about like that guy is a machine he just consumes and he's like all right I get it I understand and that's why people resonate with him not because people are thinking that he not because he's the God and we're mimicking what he says it's because it feels like there's only one person out there at the top Echelon of the world that's actually listening to listening that's exactly what it is and I think once people realize that that the difference between left and the
26:16 right is like so small it's not like a politics issue anymore it's not it just isn't right it's that there is an establishment in the world there is this higher level of society that wants to retain their way of life and they want to control how we and the bottom ason Society how we live our lives to make it for their own agenda for their own you know for their own benefit and that the movement of people is not a Left Right Movement it's a movement of people going bro this ████ up we're sick of this ████ to the world like why do we have to live like this it doesn't make any sense I think that's really what the move is I think more and more people understand that and relate to that they get it yep but a lot of people go you ████ Trump
27:06 supporter you ████ dumb woke liberal and I'm all like it's not even about that what it is is it's it's there's this establishment group that's been in power for a very long time and they've been telling the people lies saying that it's great for you and you guys should all believe without question and it doesn't matter if you vote right or left but somehow as Andrew Tate and his fans would say the Matrix has been ████ exposed right so it's it's kind of funny that we're seeing this whole uh blend of reality and people looking at how people's perspectives are so polar and different because their reality is getting disrupted if you grow up and believe everything that school tells you to you're going to be in a whirlwind of ████ hurt I think it's one of those things where if you see the crack in the Matrix one time next time you see see it
27:58 a little bit more clearly and then you see it a little more clearly and you start questioning more and more and more you're like ████ they've been lying to me this entire time and once you see it you can't unsee it and then it really starts to make sense and that's the scariest part because a lot of people right now are waking up and it's hard waking up to know that you've been lied to your entire life it's like a scary moment it's like being in the dark and walking outside in the bright light for the first time like ████ because your entire world view is like shattered I think that's why some people want to go back in people that recall new something like no no no like who's the next candidate that seems even scarier to pick someone else that I already don't know at least I have some rapport with this Nome guy let's just put him back in yeah some it's just safety in the node it's like in The Matrix I know the steak isn't real but I want to eat it anyway
28:49 it's like the same thing you know because there's comfort in what's normalized to you and it's there's comfort in giving up control so you don't have to make those decisions for yourself people don't want to be master of their own life they don't because what if you make a mistake everyone's thinking what if what if what if what if but if you are forced to be the master of your own life that's a lot of pressure so I think that's really where people get stuck that's why I say dumb asses need communism but smart responsible moral people they could be libertarian
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