0:00 and he looked at my email and he's like dude you're an art major and I'm like what so I went to my like register and like checked and I'm like oh ████ I came here on the wrong major welcome back to an episode of careful boys we have someone you may not have seen in quite some time welcome back to hoan hey music sensation where you been Jason we haven't seen you in a year well I was I was finishing school right right after you did the job interview you left I got too busy with school and and work well you got fired then and then I hired you again yeah so how's it feel to be back it feels good it feels good it's good to be back where were you studying at Irvine uh I I was studying well technically um I transferred a few times
0:51 before I got to UCI oh but I was studying film film major at UC oh really well like they don't have like a it's like the film and media media studies in school of humanities I actually wasn't even a film major at UCI when I transferred they turned me into like an art degree and I didn't find out until after I moved into my dorm and my my roommate was also like a film major well I thought I was a film major and I was talking to him I was like what's this like meeting we're going to like it's at the art school and he's like dude what are you talking about there's there's no meeting and I'm like then what is this and he looked at my email he's like dude you're an art major and I'm like what so I went to my like register and like checked and I'm like oh ████ I came here in the wrong major and so at that point I was like well I'm already here I might as well just like graduate with an art
1:41 degree and so I was like all right I'm just going to classes oh my God so I just graduated with an art degree and you're just trying to finish and get out huh yeah cuz at that point I was like doing music like pretty seriously and so I was just like how come you do a music degree because um you do music yeah honestly like music like production and like making music going to school for it is like super counterproductive cuz they it's so slow yeah they make you learn like Theory yeah to go back to the beginning but you know what was good Berkeley School of Music oh yeah but I mean that's like Conservatory type level it's really good that's Whiplash dude so do you think you had an overall like good college experience you got to do no no you wait did you finish that you join any extracurriculars or do anything else in UCI that's what college is about like I tried to join a couple extracurriculars but like nobody really
2:31 fit my vibe cuz I'm from I'm from Houston so when I came to like California I know like you guys have the whole thing with like Cali Asians and like non-al Asians and I really felt that difference when I got here there you go what does the difference feel when you grow up with like a bunch of Asians like you just become like way more comfortable with like being around Asians and I didn't really have much of that so when I came here I was like wao why is there so many Ching chongs yeah I was like wait this is actually really cool cuz like when I got to irine for the first time time I saw like a flock of Asians crossing the street and I'm like you don't see that in Houston there's hell of Asians in houon there hell Asians in there are like when I was growing up in high school though there weren't as many there was like six Koreans in my high school and then like now there's like hundreds of them there weren't anyone you needed there to be yeah when I needed there to be my culture my people they weren't there the
3:21 formative Years cuz I have a homie that's black that owns a powerlifting gym where he owned one and it's full of Asians still in Houston yeah P thing is huge in Houston to it's all Asians interesting thing is I feel like when you were first here we didn't really know the scope or the scale of how much music you were doing yeah what the hell dude and then like and he quit JK yeah and then you ran away from us and then like as we're like following you and stuff I'm like yo this dude's you're really blowing up and then you would really engage with your fans very well would you be like hey I'm just a guy I'm trying to do music like very honest like your approach was kind of more rare like more people aren't tell people what your Instagram is so we can follow your music I I don't know if I'm following you right now I'll play it right now it's uh it's right here I I'll edit it in cuz I'll edit this video it's hoan this is my Instagram click or like
4:13 go to it on your Instagram search bar oh Hoya h h h o h y u n dude I can't believe I haven't followed you I follow you now you you started getting lots of fans and stuff man yeah like I don't know uh last time I was here if my song had blown up yet but um I was just like promoting my song Sunset Boulevard on Instagram and Tik Tok for a while and then it was like it was honestly really discouraging because I released it and like nobody was listening to it and then next time you release it just tell us and we'll blow you up okay I just put out an album like my first like full length album I just put it out and I'm just like trying to promote it right now yeah TI man well you better go you better go you better go watch it unfortunately the careful boys are not single but Jason is oh actually I'm not never mind he's I do have a
5:04 girlfriend so he for how long our our second our 2ye anniversary is actually like next Thursday oh ████ two years nice man congrats so don't drown him in ████ let's go dud I did see that video though I think maybe K shared it which one the one when you're on the stairs oh yeah stairs good a good song Too Sunset boul and that song blew up that one it took an entire year for that one to blow up because like I released March of 2022 and then it just did nothing and then for months I was like dude why isn't this song this is like my best song why isn't it blowing up and then I just started uh uploading on like Instagram like re-uploading the exact same Tik Tok videos that were getting like a couple thousand views here and there and then it started like blowing up and taking off that's cool and then I was like damn what what the ████ yeah what was that it be like that dude some some videos it just sits there and you're just like man
5:56 and then 3 4 years later a million views yeah don't give up dude you don't get the dopamine hit you're looking for immediately I was like if I really believe in something now I'm like okay the world just isn't like ready for it yet so I just need to like keep promoting this people have poor taste spoken like a true art major dude so you sound like like I guess from the outside you you sound like you're doing really well and that everything's going great how are you actually like what's going on that besides if I'm going to be like like 100% honest like I'm not doing super gay right now like uh or else he would be working here yeah I think that's the huge thing is like right now like everything looks really great cuz social media does a great set up to go yeah everyone thinks I'm like either like signed by a label or I got like hella like teams behind me but it's still like just me yeah and
6:47 like the the money isn't really like coming in as much as you would think it is and I'm just still like struggling you know why it's cuz you don't have a patreon I maybe I should get one but like it's it's really tough as an independent artist and like like it's kind of like eating at my mental health right now because like I'm like super busy and just like there's a lot of things that I'm like tackling right now and I'm like I'm also doing like a show like a like a concert of mine in like June oh cool really really soon and I have like a lot of things that I need to like take care of and like procrastinating what do you mean like are you throwing the concert yourself and producing wow so like your PL full then yeah like we booked like me and my friend like we booked the venue so now it's like up to me to like put the set together yeah cuz I got my band now and then I need to like uh go with a friend and like stem out the entire song which
7:37 means to like get every track and prepare it for the band and so it's like um usually you have like a team doing all this stuff but since I don't have one I have to kind of like you know wear all the hats and it's like it's a month away and I'm like kind of stressing cuz it's like if it's not ready then like I'm kind of screwed chat GPT do ████ like that yeah get chat GPT to organizer GPT can like tell you how to do it but it can't do for but yeah like life isn't treating me super well right now like but I'm like doing my best to like power through it maybe going to the therapy soon I think that's why it looks like that's why a lot of your audience resonates with you because you're so honest about how it's going yeah I think I need I need to be more honest cuz like I think I haven't been showing my struggle as of late like they just think oh I put out my album I'm doing great I got like a couple music videos like I'm chilling but I'm like actually like
8:28 dying inside so I think you express that man people don't see the behind the that's why people followed you yeah people don't know everything also like from like a an art artist perspective I feel like the best art comes from Pain you know what I mean like you you inevitably create some of your greatest works of art when you struggling with something and maybe that doesn't translate in the actual art maybe you're not explicit about it but like it just inherently usually comes from a real emotional Place usually people who are super content and happy and satisfied they suck yeah they're like struggling to be like I need to be inspired you know what I mean it's almost like this um they're just in the the the freaking hamster wheel trying to get it done but people who are for real like down on something or whatever they can get inspired to like look at something in such a beautiful way so I I give you good Juju
9:18 on creating some of your greatest pieces of Art thank you I'm I'm definitely putting it to work because I mean like the whole album was that I was like going through it and so I put it all to work and I was like super honest and like vulnerable in this album and it's like like I say a lot of things I have like skits where I'm just like speaking my mind and I feel like I'm still going through that so I'm just like all right let me just keep making more honest work because like that's all I can do right now is just uh put my like pain into like heart yeah that's that's what you do with it right what up guys thank you for watching us for so long if you like what we do please support our patreon Joe tell them what we have to offer so every week you get two videos one never released director's cut and another one too hot for YouTube patreon only every freaking week you get that and you get
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10:58 ████ composer dude dude well just in case this video ends up coming out before your concert like where is your concert like where's the concert how can people go my my concert it's going to be at the the Moroccan Lounge on June oh dope you know the mor wait that's the one that's by Little Tokyo yeah that's the one that got burned down no way on the other yeah it literally yeah the one that used to be like a white and blue building I used to live right next to it caught on fire and then they I guess they redid it yeah I should go a lot what's the date and what what's the time and where can they get tickets June 18th is the official date it's the show's going to start um around 10 p.m. um and like the ticket link I guess I'll just like nice make sure you edit this one I'll edit this cuz can going put ████ right there you're going to look like a
11:48 crazy gu put Steve to but yeah it's it's like it's in a month so if this video comes oute yeah it'll you know it'll be it'll be soon yeah man and also yeah we hope to see you guys there just just just for the fans of music like how would you describe your music like as a either a genre a style or just like however you would describe it well I'd say like these days it's like less genre focused than it used to be I used to just make like primarily like R&B but now it's it's very wide in genre like sometimes it's more pop sometimes it's like folk sometimes it's like kind of like electronic so I feel like I'm more focused on like feelings and I feel like most of my my music is like sad cuz you're sad right now yeah sad but like in like a lonely way and I feel like I really want people to to
12:39 feel like heard and seen cuz they're sad too yeah like maybe they're feeling the same things that I'm feeling and maybe people aren't saying these things do you think there'll ever be um a POA feeling a POA maybe on that Vibe dip into that yeah you think there will ever be a PO time hey send me your best poker track and I'll take you guys should you should do a Jo feature oh all right things were going so well for you my career tank no it's going to Skyrocket after I they're like the legend is back cuz you got to collab dude you got to collab with different artist right the legend is back what was your rap artist name again had a lot of aliases what's the one on the latest one was Cobra con Cobra con oh K Cobra Commander
13:30 no I thought he meant Cobra K like KU n like when a Japanese person's younger oh like yeah oh that's actually good yeah I was like that was tight but it wasn't that but I mean you're you're also an artist as well like you not really I mean you you uh graduated with the film degree but you didn't really use a film degree either so I feel like it turned into YouTube really yeah cuz like I was I was just like you know I was like we we got to like rent out or like sign out like different mini DV cameras or different stuff like that right so then I ended up just started shooting some random ████ putting together and then throwing it on YouTube to share with like homies across the dorm cuz like we nobody got social media like that before you know what I we didn't know that it was going to be something I remember getting like a 100 views on a video and being like I don't even know if I got 100 friends you know what I mean so like that time frame I feel like if I wasn't
14:21 a film manager I probably wouldn't have had fun making videos and then that just kept on going that's good that's sick that's sick I'm glad you got to put your degree to actual use thing yeah it was fun I mean CU my degree I'm not using any of it that's 90% of people to be completely honest no yeah that's the point college is a scam no but the irony is that I found dance and fell in love with it in college so I feel like like the outside of the degree part like I got my degree in dance in college without actually getting a degree oh you you like started ad I started dancing at a couple of their shows and like they're so cool I'm like it makes me want to learn how to dance but I have like no dancing bones oh they still do Cabo modern and all that yeah they still got all like and stuff and it's like super dope do they all start the shows like this yeah if they want points taken off
15:11 immediately which they do it's like why do they all show and then they all have to go like this they all start the show like that like why every D because lack of guidance all of them lack of guidance all of them lack of guidance that's why yeah but you know what because you have a an interest in film it's actually that combination with your actual music making that's like it makes the sense that's a cool ass music video there so many dope musicians out there all your visuals are great that don't know how to put visuals together and then there's other people who know how to put visuals together but don't necessarily have like the product or content to create and you have that and that's an amazing thing honestly it's it's usually somebody else that helps you realize that you are using your major it's kind of funny cuz my major was literary journalism I don't work in journal M yeah you do JK news
16:02 fool is journalism journalism it is but then I do end up having to Rite a lot and lot and your captions are hella good greaty but then I wouldn't have thought to this day I was like oh I don't I don't use my major but it's like you kind of do just in way you don't really but do you think it's really the major or your interest into choosing that major that made you gravitate toward that in the first place so that's why you're in journalism yeah because you already have a natural but I think like the classes help you refine it and help you define exactly what it is you like about it if you paid attention or even give you an example of what not to pay or like follow you know what I mean like the the the structure in which they teach you and you're like I like this thing but I don't like the way that they're doing exactly yeah it gives you something to shoot Beyond like you go oh man that's the cap like I just work at a ████ newspaper like come on for real cuz I'm a unlicensed
16:53 psychologist with a bachelor's in psychology and a composer and what I realized is that with a bachelor's in psychology you don't you can't do ████ like there's no work there's like a TW there's $12 an hour job you were kind of ConEd into picking that and then to get any decent job in the field of psychology you got to have a masters or above yeah and then at that point it's more profitable to be a truck driver exactly and you don't need a ████ fouryear degree I feel like that's most degrees these days like the the college bachelor's degree is just like the new GED the starting point yeah nice paying job you have to get a Masters or yeah such a ████ you have to get a trade degree what happened to where it turned into six years instead of four cuz like my cousin's a physical therapist and he was like um I for he's like for him he
17:46 could get a bachelor's and then start practicing but now you have to be like M you have to get a master's it's like it's changed competitive maybe as well or it's just the educational compx there's just more money in it educational complex yeah yeah educational industrial complex it really is though like the school loan complex is like crazy it's a lot they still be asking you for money after you graduate like d still call me and ████ alumni ████ UCLA I might stop ████ calling me you ████ waste all that money on those protests and ████ they call they they they send tip ████ every day elac instead man yeah BR they you guys don't need no ████ money bro that is cool that I I do like that you have this dream and you're open about it and you're chasing it dud you wish you the best man like be afraid to ask yeah dude and when you blow up don't forget us don't forget about us forget when you got a new song DM me and say Joe can you
18:36 share this and I'll tell you no you drop a feature yeah but send it to me and I'll share it I'll share it that really means a lot I mean like I I did like kind of like go to high school like watching this show too so it really means a lot that you guys are like I believe in we don't have the same views as when you were watching during high school but we could still get a couple thousand for you yeah so we're gonna do a roll out when if you're can edit this video right put your own music video with Sunset Boulevard we are GNA end with listening to a little bit of that because it is such a badass track Y where do that but yeah enjoy hen's music look through it there's a whole album out right now on YouTube right y a whole album is called Drama it's 16 tracks dang it's a please listen through I like this part he embodies the tears of gen Z hey look at this cut with the lights
19:27 this s███'s dope look at this damn and it fits it fits with the mic this looks really good dude you're hey this is true though no one's happy at a lrat no it's always depressing ████ you got style dude how'd you get in there that's really good man you put yourself in a washing machine huh yeah the guy I rented it from he just like left and gave me the keys so I just like fit in there by yourself I was there with a friend who was helping me shoot dude this music's is like it feels like now ████ too this is good dude thank you I'd listen to this I bet you that water was cold though it was hella did you go to Redondo Beach is that a Miata you driving Irvine it's called the Crystal Cove oh Crystal kiss hella girls down
20:18 there good ████ bud
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