0:00 But from a from a marketing perspective, though, I would imagine like the K pop stands who are like huge huge fans, aka the whole world of like BTS, it's like to know that they still fulfilled their like country's duty and come back and then like now their music's probably going to be so much more like mature and edgier like, you know, they're men that have like really experienced certain things. Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys World. This is where you come to get all your K pop news, obviously. So, guys, BTS, Steve's favorite K pop group. Remember who they are? And I know Blackpink and I know Blackpink. >> How do you know about BTS? I know about BTS cuz those guys were in a ████ cell phone commercial. >> Well, what about them? They're global superstars. >> Okay, well, the thing is, did you guys know that they were basically on a break because they all had to go serve in the Korean military at their particular age? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:50 >> Yeah, so now they're finally coming back. This is like their actual moment of comeback. So, they have their fifth full-length album with well 14 tracks coming out on March 20th at midnight Eastern time. >> Wow. They basically spent the entire last couple like weeks, months, or whatever finishing their album, but this is a huge moment because they have been and are and still are the biggest boy band, so to speak, of all time. >> of cool there's no exceptions. Well, that's the thing. I like I don't give a ████ how big of a star you are, you're going to go serve the ████ country, son of a ████ Yeah, that's tight. Definitely no exceptions. However, there have been very notorious stories of people that like chose not to and fled the country even at like the the like apex of their career and stuff. >> exceptions to some people if they're doing something that that benefits the country? No. Nah? They don't give exceptions. If anything, they might put you, for example, correct me if I'm wrong. I I need all the stands to
1:40 correct me if I'm wrong. I want engagement in the comments comments, but like Taeyang, for example, when he went to the military, he was put into like a particular group that goes around to the different other military camps in Korea and like performs. >> Like USO shows? Kind of like that. Yeah, so it's like >> specialized like MOS, so to speak. Yeah. That's pretty cool. >> for example, I think Hong 10, again, allegedly, when he did Red Bull BC One 10-year anniversary in Korea to defend his title, the one where he won, he was I think he was technically serving during that time. So, I think as a nation, he was allowed to go defend his title against the world real quick and then go back. >> So, the exception isn't that you don't have to serve, it's that you have to serve a specialized version. >> Yeah, yeah, you still have to serve, but like, you know, maybe you are a large benefit to the country in a different
2:31 way. So, they're not going to like completely >> They just make that the service. >> It's also pretty convenient cuz they're like training and stuff. Like Jimmy Stewart went to World War II, you know. Holy crap. Yeah, like those guys, it's like you're not coming back and doing a movie and going back to war. Like you're just there. Yeah, so it's a lot different. >> Dang. Yeah, that cat was a was a veteran. What a G. Yeah, I would I would definitely be surprised if that was the same during actual wartime, but at the same time it's like if it was actually wartime, it it's not like he would send, you know, necessarily those guys unless they were super down for it and wanted to to go out and be like front line people, you know? It'd be like, yo, like even during wartime, be like the the drummer boy, you know, like play some music and stuff, get people hyped. Yeah. If I was a pop star, I'm like, nah, I'm trying to go back and make billions of dollars. [laughter]
3:21 But that's like Tom Cruise in that movie, man. If you if you protest too much, they're going to put your ass in the front line. Risky business? Yeah, [laughter] yeah. Yeah, no. The the Eyes Wide Shut? No, the one day after tomorrow No, no, the one where he gets he keeps getting killed over and over. >> Days of Thunder. Days of Thunder. No, no, no. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Live Die Repeat, one. Edge of Tomorrow. >> Edge of Tomorrow. They made the s████████ title, but Live Die Repeat was a better title. It's a hard title to think of. But it was such a good movie. >> Such a good ass movie. But remember in the beginning he's like he's like trying to get out of going to war and then they put his ass in the front lines, dude. >> Damn. >> Yeah, don't do that. >> that is good. I think his name was Seo Taiji back in like the early 2000s or what? No, I don't know Hong 10. No, that's crazy. Some young guy? Um, basically it was like one of the guys who like >> can't convince me of any of that. would be would be one of the most gangster like K pop dudes because he at he was
4:12 like killing it, top dog during that era, and then it was his time to go to the to the Korean military, and then so he chose not to and fled and he like went to like LA or some [laughter] ████ >> Oh, ████ >> And then so now he's still in a whole like legal situation, and I can't wait for everybody to go to comments correct me cuz I don't have the right information, but this is JK News, so So, he still can't go back to Korea or whatever? >> Well, so he's been doing like multiple legal cases and and his case over like 20 years or 30 years or some ████ has been going on of whether or not he can go back to the country and still retain some version of something. >> Some of them have like statute of limitations. Like if you wait out 20 years or some ████ or 10 years. >> Dang. I think if you're high profile, though, it might be a difference. He's like Edward Snowden just chilling over here? I think so. I knew I knew a couple or I know one B boy who's hella bounced. Who wants to in New York, right? And
5:02 like made a family and stuff. >> Ah, that's a different dude. >> Okay. >> He moved to LA, Santa Monica, and he was cuz you remember back then like >> about flip flop? >> [laughter] >> You know, I couldn't tell. That's hilarious. You guys always do that ████ to me. I'm like, they're just ████ with me. >> [laughter] >> Cuz they're all like 40 now. >> yeah. You mean Sonic? >> [laughter] >> Come on, man. Exactly. No, no, no, I'm talking about wigglers. [laughter] >> Yeah. No context name stuff on seems really funny. ████ guys, man. Yeah, it was it was during the time where Korea had come up so hard in breaking, but we didn't have any of those guys out here because the age range of most B boys is pre-military. So, it's very hard for them to like, you know, get to the point of being a traveler then come to the states. But then one guy was here, and everybody's like, how's this dude
5:52 here? And then we found out it's cuz his family had connections and they just got him out. >> Wow. >> Damn. So, he's not a deserter, he got like diplomatically >> no, it was not good what he did, but but then they just sent him out. >> But I think if you're a celeb, it actually makes way more sense to not wiggle out because just a national like pri- like a example of like, oh, they're even they're doing it, so then we have to do it, too. You know? But then if only the celebs were not doing the service, then they'll be like, what the ████ How come they don't have to do it? But that was like the thing about Vietnam is all the all the celebrities like all the people in government, their kids weren't going. Like they're getting excuses and ████ like that. And that's like what inspired the Fortunate Son song cuz that cat was like pissed. Which if I was in the government and I
6:44 [clears throat] had a kid, I'd be like, nah, you ain't going. They can hate us later for sure, but How did that work during the Vietnam draft? >> What do you mean? There was so much draft dodging. Like Dick Cheney got out of it, Bush got out of it. >> Wait, Dick Cheney? Yeah. >> I thought he was Oh, that's McCain that was a a Yeah, then McCain McCain got out of it. Muhammad Ali got out of it, too, right? By converting to Muslim or no, is that something else? Yeah, yeah, you can Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. Like they'll they'll find loopholes to dodge. >> they don't Well, he famously like was beating his chest out there saying he's not going cuz he doesn't support the war effort and all that. Yeah, I remember that. But then if that's if you're like Muslim, they won't draft you back then? I think they're because you're in America, you you have to do things based off of like your ideals. So, if you're like, in my religion, I cannot do this, they will not put you on the front lines, but maybe if you push hard enough, you don't even have to go. Wow, damn. Yeah. I remember those those those videos and
7:35 stories of people breaking their legs and arms to not get drafted. >> Yeah, or get disabled. Whoa. >> of stuff. They're hiding their kids in some cases. Like it was it was a wild time. >> Hiding their kids? From like cuz they would bring recruiters to the house and stuff. You You guys ever see the I think the draft videos of like people from the Philippines or Thailand? Yeah. Those are the funniest ones. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The draft lottery, yeah. They pull name out of a hat, right? And they'll be like [laughter] a flaming dude, and then it's like you you you don't have to go. OH MY GOD, YES! AND THEN THE GUY that has to GO IS LIKE, >> [laughter] >> THEY HAVE TO GET CARRIED OUT. YO, WHY WHY ARE THEY ALL GAY? I don't know, it's great. It's great. The gay guys that don't [laughter] have to go have to do a solo? Yeah, and they do that ████ high kick. THEY'RE LIKE, >> [laughter] >> YES!
8:26 AND THEN THEY'LL EVEN THE SOLDIERS ARE LIKE, YEAH. >> [laughter] >> Those videos [gasps] are the best. >> They make it fun, man. Remember in Hook when they when they're like, you're going to the boo box? And they're like, no, not the boo box. Not not the ████ boo box. >> [laughter] >> Good marketing. It's actually good marketing. It is, dude. Cuz also if you're like watching this other like super gay dude, it's like, you have to go. It's like, no! It's like, if you have to go, [laughter] you're not going to do the same type of like You you got to take it a little bit. You got to take it better. Yeah, you got to be like, oh, man. I just like how everyone's smiling at that place. Yeah. [laughter] Especially the soldiers. Yeah. And then they're like, dude, it's not that bad. >> The guys that are holding onto them in case they faint. >> Yeah, yeah. >> [laughter] >> Like, oh my ████ god. Oh my ████ god. Yeah, it looks like it's going to be a taser test cuz you have guys on each arm just like holding them. [laughter] And you're like, oh, it's in case they like collapse. >> Yeah, so funny, dude. That's dramatic.
9:18 >> It's funny cuz you said like, have you guys seen those videos? And there's just one video that I've seen of it, and it's the same gay guys. It's just one video. >> it's one video, yeah. I think I've seen like two or three of them cuz I've seen yeses, I've seen nos. Cuz he goes into his ChatGPT, he's like, can you show me a bunch more videos just like this? >> [laughter] >> 10 more like this. All the gay guys. But from a from a marketing perspective, though, I would imagine like the K pop stands who are like huge huge fans, aka the whole world of like BTS, it's like to know that they still fulfilled their like country's duty and come back and then like now their music's probably going to be so much more like mature and edgier like, you know, they're men that have like really experienced certain things or whatever. You think? I think if you Like it'll be like the Beatles where they come back with like an evolved like music? I mean, at their caliber >> Lucky, that'd be amazing. Yeah, at their level it's
10:08 >> how Even one person out of that group would have like eight figures of followers. Well >> Wow. Yeah, that's true. And then um the they're like individually and even as a group, they're like a economic nation. Like how much income that they can produce. So, there's hell of a trickle down, right? Like there's K-pop events that happen, just fan club events. I I just recently found this out cuz we did a collab with BT21, which are the figurines of those guys' characters. They're like Line Friends. So, they're not even them. They're the cartoon versions uh inspired by each one of those guys. And there's people that follow that. There's like K-pop clubs that have events where you come in and like there's people that are making money like promotion-wise, all that. These guys aren't doing any concerts or anything. You're just going there to
10:58 have like a fan club event. And there's a whole economy based on this stuff. And I'm just like, dude, it's crazy cuz usually when you think of anime conventions and all that stuff, like there's some ties to the company and there's some kind of like licensing or money that's going to the company. But there's so much money going around with K-pop and the whole culture that it's like produced whole entire industry outside of going money going back to Korea. Wow. That makes sense. Like stuff that they don't even have anything physical to do with. There's like a whole other ecosystem for that, yeah. >> Yeah. It's crazy, man. The crazy thing is I I want to know how far in advance the label and the A&Rs planned for this music. Because they already knew this was going to happen. So, it's not like like when you think of how the Beatles came out and then after they they finished and they came back with
11:49 that that next album, they were different people. These different people were probably already like pre-planned. >> They probably been planning for 10 years plus because there's an age where you have to go. So, when they're signing like these 7-year contracts for the record labels and stuff like that, they're probably already like these people have to leave at this time. So, like in year four, we're already building up like this group that's younger and we need to put a lot of marketing in and and just get the gears turning for that. So, when these guys are gone, these guys are paying all of our bills still and then we're already producing the next level of things for when these guys get out in 2 years. Like the whole thing's got to be planned out. For something that huge, imagine how many brains there are above it. Like just making everything work and come together. That's crazy to think. Plus like the guys who run the record labels are like, yeah, we served in the military too. So, like we know exactly when, how, what we can do. We can talk to these people cuz like they're all
12:39 like giant moguls out there. They probably nobody know people that know people and run ████ >> Do girls have to serve? I don't think so. I'm going to answer that myself. >> voluntarily serve? Like there's no way Blackpink's going in, right? Uh by by draft, I don't think so. It says, "No, women are not required to serve in the South Korean military. Conscription only applies to men, but women can volunteer as officers or non-commissioned officers, though there are ongoing debates about proposals about introducing mandatory service." Okay, word. They might have to cuz of the population decline. Does any country have mandatory female service? I think Israel. Oh, yeah. I I think you're right. >> Mandatory, really? I think everybody that's able age Oh, wow. Cuz you'll see a ton of women just in uniform like cuz I uh there's like is is Israeli baddies that are like just >> Yeah. Yeah, several countries uh have
13:30 mandatory military service for women including Israel, North Korea, and Eritrea. Eritrea. Eritrea. That's next to Ethiopia. North Korea, though. But they they fudge their numbers cuz technically the whole country's a part of the military. That's why they have the biggest military in the world. >> Oh, I see. Scrawny, unhealthy like It's just their special forces guys are the top, yeah. But their whole country's the military. But when you're in North Korea, you can only Google like the really strong ones. All right. Those are the only one pictures that come up. I think when you're outside of North Korea, you can only Google the strong ones. That's how cool they are. By the way, shout out Kim Jong, we know you watch. Thank you, brother. Thank you for supporting the show.
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