0:00 so I'm glad I kept these photos because if you guys saw this and you were my father you would probably want to murder me oh and oh my God welcome back to just KY news out the closet out of the closet today we're talking about Joe and his life of crime or four elements of hip-hop and my love for you're calling hip-hop people criminals yes that's what the police call HP people shoot dude back in the day though like that was literally the like anti-drug but it got me into drugs but like that's a different story but like the theme okay like listen to everyone's story right the theme of today or just in general it it just keeps going back to I was saved by
0:50 having a purpose like you guys had dance that like pulled you out and then you had like theater as geeky as that is it's still Loser yeah and you had fighting and you know beat up yeah then like military and just everything like you need a thing right and um I I was I was happy like that early on I felt like I found art I was like drawing I got into like dude I had a lot of stuff that I drew all the time and I think that was my Escape like when like people were fighting or whatever like I would just like Listen to Kiss FM and like you know Mariah carries on and I'm having a good time and I'm drawing and in the background like my brother and dad like screaming at each other or whatever like I don't know you know like it's kind of like you're drowning it out and that's kind of the Sacred Space and also it was
1:40 the thing that I was always being praised for like everyone's like that's great you know and then my mom want to show it off to her friends and then like I never got my ass kicked for it so like they were like what is that that's wrong like piano music dude even my violent teacher was kicking my ass and he's not even my relative right right like everybody I was getting I was a kickball dude was ████ and so I hate to laugh at it you just sold it really well but like I think it was a natural kind of place where that was the one thing in my life that I was like this is my ████ kick ball I'm good at getting my ass kick this is my ████ my ass beat I'm so good at this into a punching bag just
2:32 close but like I discovered hip-hop like my you know at the time man like everybody was listening to like rap and and and you were either you were you were trying to participate in one of the elements like you're trying to be a DJ but you need money to have DJ equipment that's the expensive one for sure oh yeah and if you're rapping like okay you could freestyle you had a good command of words but I was like kind of too young I was like sixth grade you know didn't have enough vocabulary I didn't know words very well and it was dancing and then you know I had friends that were getting into break dancing and all that and I tried it and I'm like man I'm I'm like 100 PBS I'm not strong enough for the power moves you know but like graffiti really spoke to me because of how dangerous it was it it made me feel alive doing something bad right like
3:24 you're going out there and you're drawing on something and there's a risk of like if you get caught you go to jail but also there was an element of um battling through art of like you cross each other out you can ████ put something on the wall and then someone else can like compete with you and it's like who has the most tags in the city or bombs or whatever you call it right and then also there was the aspect of like Brotherhood where like you form a crew you get together you're hanging out all the time you have a bunch of other ████ loser ass kids that like probably get the ████ kicked out of them too and so it became this thing where it's like well I'm not trying to be a part of a gang cuz like that s███'s scary but graffiti all day every day like we could go out there and that became my thing of like I I'm pretty sure man
4:15 there was always issues happening at the house but when you're young you don't remember you just know you don't want to be in the house anymore and so at the time I found every excuse to say oh I'm just going to ride bikes with my friends and it sounds innocent right so you're going out there and then you're just like hopping on buses riding here riding there going into the freeway doing this doing that and this is when I discovered weed cuz you know you go to like people's garages and you're drawing and ████ and then they throw you some weed and I was like 13 at the time and then I'm like this is one of the best things in the world what the ████ is this why is drugs bad you know dude I feel the same I remember taking my first hit and we went to McDonald's and I didn't have any money
5:07 but like also when you're B with a bunch of Lost Boys like people take care of you and I think that's the dangerous part right like people make you feel love but it's false it's this weird like feeling of like oh my god you bought me a ████ burger and it's a ████ Burger it's like a 35 Cent Burger but you just feel like oh no one's ever done that for me what's the false part I mean I don't know man maybe it is real but it it just it's like they're going to cash in on their check eventually right remember when I ████ did that ████ cost more than a bur manipulation there's like I mean you're around a bunch of ████ up people yeah and some people maybe they will just take care of you but I don't know but it's just I remember just think maybe it was the weed but I was like oh my God they bought me this burger it's the best
5:57 burger I've ever had and I'm like eating this and I'm like this ████ brotherhood's so cool you know and then like I think that was literally my gateway to liking people outside more than my real family and that was like okay I get to be with these guys and we're doing exciting ████ you know in the middle of the night we would just like hop fences paint up schools whatever and you're doing bad stuff so you feel like you're doing a heist but you're also a little kid so you're afraid to actually like do an arm robbery or something but it's like kind of there and then you're also doing something that's like artistic that's everyone sees oh did you see that oh who did that and then you you get a Fame out of it right and I think like that was the first time in my
6:48 life where I felt um like this is what I'm supposed to do and it's the most destructive ████ up thing like it's not good at all but then you start thinking about how like well we're the good guys cuz the institutions and the teachers and then these guys they're the bad guys and you start to make this weird kind of thought in your mind and I really do think like all these things are gateways to organize crime and gangs and everything bad in this world because when the system literally fails these kids who are incapable of reasoning and logic like their way into anything M when you grab them at these early ages they're kind of like already distrusting of like everybody so they're clay for your cause yeah like um you can
7:42 easily bring them in and being like I'll give you a little attention if you and then you can get them to sell drugs for you right that makes sense so it didn't get that bad for me yet at 1314 you know but this I can see looking back how it was kind of priming me into this world and so I was having hell of a good time and and I think my parents were also dealing with so much of their own that they weren't really paying attention much like I'd still get in trouble for being caught going out late um I would still get my asses beat cuz my dad was still there I wasn't really like um doing everything completely on my own yet it was that gray area period but once when my dad left that's when I full force went cuzz my mom was so depressed
8:33 in her room she never left her room she would go straight to work she just stopped being a mother she went to work came back home she stopped cooking she would just go into her room and that was it and I remember thinking like what the ████ like there's no dinner what am I going to do or like that's why that ████ cheeseburger was so important maybe maybe that's crazy and I know like I talked to my mom about this too and I forgiven her like crazy but her life was so shook I think she went into like this weird depression shock mhm where imagine her good Conservative Christian girl living in this bubble she did everything right she followed all the rules and then her husband has an affair her sons are ████ maniacs that don't don't follow any of the rules I'm getting
9:23 arrested you know like and then so she had this mental breakdown of like why God you know and then I think it just put her into this depressive state where she couldn't even get out of bed damn so like I took full advantage of that cuz I was like woo Freedom right so here here I am and it got really bad to where okay now I'm graffiting all over my bedroom cuz no one's there to stop me wow my garage I have photos I'll show you guys it's pretty ████ up I don't know if I should show it to you right now but um in pause but what do you think yes talking out of camera on real quick they'll see it and then it'll cut to our reaction of the same thing yeah so I'm glad I kept these photos because if you guys saw this and you were my father you would probably want to ████ murder me oh ████ and oh my God what really this
10:14 looks like remember in Ninja Turtles to Ninja Turtles were like the Foot Clan they fall yeah the foot Clans hide hide out and at this time I was just getting into graffiti so I wanted to practice as much as it's horrible the art sucks it's so bad this is is inside the house that is my bedroom damn bro ████ bro that is my bedroom I would ████ you up prison cell yeah that is my bedroom this looks ████ nuts there's some there's some stuff in my garage there's some stuff like I ████ the ████ out of my house and so like who bought you spray it makes it look like a crack Den I have a question this one says Nationwide Kings vapor is that that was one of our crews so we had a couple of Crews Nation white king you know for sure you will not get your security deposit back I have I have
11:06 a second question this one says Jennifer who's that I have no idea I so here's the thing Nationwide the most sare thing you've ever written cuz that just sounds like ins chance now I invited random people this is ████ intense dude I I invited people I didn't know over the house we would just smoke floor of the garage this is insane and your mom his door closed my mom's not home like it was just it was Lord of the Flies literally like like my garage was open season I understood I didn't understand before when you're like everybody beat your ass and I look at these photos I'm like Ah that's why everybody's beating your ass this is this a house your family owns no they rent so so they're renting this house so that's the house that the last time I had me my grandma my father my mother it was a it was like
11:57 a nice like warm environment with a lot lot of people and then it ended up by that time it was just me and my mom how the ████ did you go from this to the Joe that we know who you're about to find out holy ████ dude but I I literally um at this point yeah I I I brought like my mom was like thinking you know i' rather have you here than out there so like I was getting ████ drunk off my ass inviting everybody it became that house that everyone just came and like did whatever they want was really the crack house it was literally yeah we did all kinds of drugs there and but I was like 14 years old so I was the adults would be coming in um High School people would come in like there would just be all kinds of different ages of people coming in this is all Gardina this was in Gardina yeah and um at the time you know
12:49 like I was a part of a crew and we would go paint and all this stuff and there was another group out there that uh I became friends with and I would invite them over and we we became close and they were like in high school and at this time I was like in sixth or seventh grade so I really looked up to them and um I thought they were like some of the coolest guys like their art was on a different level I wanted to be like them I wanted to draw like like I and then they taught me a lot and and it was really cool but um I think you know when you're so little right and and I was a ████ mouthy kid so naturally you're going to bully a little ████ and I think also this is a very like hazing in um I think like I see this in Korean culture too but like it
13:41 could get really ████ bad and what I mean by that is like uh it I think a lot of cultures have bullying but I think I've been around Chinese I've been around other groups and I think Japanese and Koreans take it a little too far and um especially if you're dealing with delinquents right cuz they're going to go a little bit further and so a lot of the times like I think um when you're in these situations and people are giving you attention you don't think you have other friends and you think they actually like you but eventually I started to realize I was their entertainment cuz it got to the point where they asked me to come sleep over one
14:32 time and um we always we always used to do that we always used to go hey let's pretend like we're going to sleep over and then we're just going to go paint all night together which we did right and we got high as ████ and then he goes hey I got a surprise for you and I was like what is it and then he uh so my dad uh he bought me a a buck knife a hunting knife and it was special to me cuz he taught me how to like cut fish and stuff and we would when we go fishing I would cut with that and they pulled out my buck knife and then they go like you want it back and I was like oh that's ████ up dude oh funny you know you you took it from my house and I was like yeah I want it back and he goes well all right we'll put on the gloves and so he's like you're not from our crew and at this time I'm like 13 or something 14 right and I'm like what are you talking about so he throws gloves at
15:23 me and he goes you'll get it back if you fight every single one of us and I'm like ████ you guys are all high school kids yeah that's crazy and I'm like also what hurt the most was the Betrayal I felt thought you were in the crew I was like oh okay I'm just a little ████ boxing dummy to you guys so I said ████ it let's do it put on my gloves oh ████ and I just went as hard as I could I didn't know what I was doing you know and now obviously one after the other They're laughing they're ████ me up right and at this moment um their dad comes and he opens the back he sees us in the back backyard and he goes what the ████ you guys doing you know some Japanese American cat and they're like oh nothing we're just training and he comes up to me he goes are you okay cuz he could probably tell right and then for some reason dude like
16:14 I had to be like no we're cool like I didn't want to get them in trouble and in my heart I was saying like ████ save me man like I'm scared like you I don't want to do this no more so um I just kept going on with it right and then I I finished it they they they said all right cool and then I heard uh one of the guys say uh uh after all of it I heard I overheard him saying like I'm going to ████ make this guy into a killer like it was his intention to build me up to being like a Rabbid animal that they can probably ████ around with and use he wanted you to be a child basically yeah like I mean back then when they would and people would get into like dog fighting right like I remember like people would do ████ like I'm going give this dog Chili Peppers to get it pissed off and then it's like I think they they were not only having fun
17:05 but they wanted um someone in the future that that they can rely on to do the dirty work or whatever it was and they were having a good time so at the same time I was like okay well now I'm paranoid and I don't know what the ████ they're going to do next um and I remember they're like oh let's go paint now right and there's this abandoned house let's go check it out and while I was going out there I said n I'm not going and he goes why he goes cuz you guys are going to hide in different parts of the house and try to scare me and then they're looking at each other like how did he know and I'm like I'm high out of my ████ mind but I'm not dumb you know I'm not I'm not going to play this ████ no more and I remember like after that I was like ████ these guys and I went home and after that um it got worse and worse to where they wanted to like call me out and like
17:56 fight me and and every time they saw my tag they would cross toss it out and I remember um I had a really close neighbor friend and his brother were close to these guys and one time they were like hey uh come hang out not the guys right my my my friend and I was like sure I'll come hang out and then um I got to where they were at and we're going to go walk to my elementary school and he goes oh we got to hop that fence and I'm like sure so I hopped the fence and then they basically sabotaged me and then the two guys were there so I was like you ████ and then I knew it was going to happen so I said ████ this ████ and I just threw the first punch and I just said ████ you ████ and I just like fought for my life right and I mean like what am I like you know
18:46 barely yeah like 100 lbs these guys are high school kids they're just wailing on me eventually I'm overpowered I'm on the ground and I said all right all right I I had enough and they just keep kicking me and I'm in my elementary school it's like it's like late at night there's no one there so all I'm thinking about is like oh ████ am I going to die obviously they weren't going to kill me but in my head it feels like you are yeah I'm like I'm alone like I'm going to die right so after that all I could think about is like revenge is like I'm going to ████ kill these guys cuz like it's not fair like your bodies are bigger you did a two onone and like obviously like you're going to win and I was like how can I kill him and that's all I can obsess about so at that point I think
19:38 like my kind of head went to a space of like I got to get the ████ out of here so I told my mom I was like yeah like I don't know and then I told my Uncle this too and then my uncle is like you're coming to San Francisco with me so um kind of like overnight when I told my Uncle like I guess this has been going on for like a month and sometimes they come to my in front of my house they would park their truck and um I could just see them out of my window oh they've just been antagonizing you they've been ████ with me oh ████ I see you were you were a target for them yeah and I think like it started with bullying but it it and then and ended up like getting worse and worse to the point where it was like okay now they're really just beating my ass like if they caught me in the streets they're beating my ass right and um I remember one of them like
20:28 I was biking down getting to my friend's house and then he basically got off his bike he found me he tried to grab my bike I and we were just fighting over my bike and then I got away and I was like ████ dude I almost had my bike jacked like and what sucked is like my I was such a smaller kid that I was like ████ I want to feel strong I want I want to team behind me and these ████ graffiti guys like they're like too weak you know and then so like fast forward to I found another GR group of guys that were really ████ cool in Orange County and we started painting and I started hanging out there and then um I reconnected with my old buddy uh Eddie when I went to sgaa cuz I kept getting kicked out of schools and he introduced me to raving and through raving I met a lot of Asians cuz back then like I was
21:19 in a Mexican black neighborhood and um the only Asian guys that I knew were the guys that I looked up to that were bullying me and um at that point I felt like well a lot of my friends that I went to elementary school who were like black and Mexican at this point they're joining gangs in junior high and and this was like the next stage of like oh ████ now this is serious and I was I kept thinking if only these guys were my friends I wouldn't be in this position cuz these guys are afraid of those guys like when you see those scrawny Japanese tag taggers like they're not going to ████ with the rolling 6 these Crips you know like they're they're afraid of all that but they'll ████ with a guy like me who's a 100 lb sixth grader and then So eventually like I I I went to kind of
22:09 Escape all that I went to San Francisco I came back I had all my friends from Orange County I started we developed a new crew out there it was a bunch of like Asians Southeast Asians and Samoans some Polynesians we had a lot of fun and then um one day I got caught and I went through the whole system I was terrified I was going to go to juvie and so I was kind of like on probation so all I was allowed to do was go to school come right back home and I told my mom I was like I don't think there's a future for me in Gardina we got to get the ████ out of here and so she was like you know what like I'm tired of living in this house too and rent is so expensive cuz it was a three four-bedroom home and it was just me and her and she goes I'm ready for a change you guys have a conversation in the room with full ofy
23:00 is like one of those that's a great question he's like I don't have anywhere else to bomb I I need a new house we need some white paint I forgot where we had this conversation but I begged her I was like I tried living in San Francisco it just didn't work out for me I hated my uncle well not hate is a strong word he took care of me even though he beat my ass and I think he really cared about me but it was tough living with them yeah and then um I was just like I I need to get the ████ out of here and this is when I met so many of the the the Asian folks through raving and also there was an opportunity cuz I always sold drugs with them so I thought as a great career path why don't I make my way into the San Gabriel Valley so I told my mom I said hey like I want to move to San Gabriel she goes oh yeah like we have so many family friends
23:51 there that's a great City to move to not knowing shirt it's a birth it's a breeding ground for Asian gangs right but but at this point I was still not into gangs I still didn't care about that stuff I just said you know I just need to change um I don't think there's anything going for me uh the school system in Gardina was horrible like my mom told me that the day she signed me up she went into the parking lot and like 10 kids just came out of nowhere and all these cop cars just came arresting them and she's like holy crap this is the school I'm putting my kid in like this is a good place for and when we come and when we come back we're going to talk about Joe's entrance into Gang Lifestyle more to come here on just Kitty news out of the closet
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