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Joe's Illegal Fish Smuggling Era

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0:05 Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys. >> [laughter] >> You had such a professional face. >> What, dude? I'm a professional. Honestly, we talk about really important professional stuff here, so it's important that we get our professional face on. So, Joe, what's the most exotic pet you're down for? >> Dude, you know, I used to love just collecting the most wildest pets. >> You're a piranha salesman. >> I sold piranhas. >> [laughter] >> I really got into illegal fish selling. >> Can you talk about just a little bit, like, what the hell is it like to sell piranhas? >> And how [laughter] How do you start? Like, how do you get into that? >> Conversation. Like, someone hits you up and goes kind of interested in a piranha. >> So, you meet other aficionados >> Oh, enthusiasts? >> of the game. >> Okay. >> And then you get into conversation with these people, right? And then you might trade, you might be like, "Hey,

0:56 man, I got this new cichlid." And I'm like, "That's cichlid." And then like, they'll give it to you or And then you start giving each other It's like you Pokémon, right? And then And then And then you go, "Psst, but guess what though? I got piranhas." Like, "No ████ way." >> No, that's that's what You piranha No. >> And then like, I'll be like, "Just come down." And I And then like, I'll be I'll be in my garage and then I'll hit the garage opener and I'll be like, And then they'll be sitting there like, "Oh my god, you got piranhas for real?" And I'm like, "Yeah." And I And I always did this thing where I was like, >> made your You probably made your sale just from that. >> Yeah. The garage door shut. >> Them actually seeing piranhas, dude, you're in. >> But the real sale was the feeding. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, for sure. Come on.

1:46 >> And I'm like, "Yeah." I was like, and I do this thing where I like stick my hand in the tank and I'm like, "Hey, check it out though, they don't bite. They don't bite." And then they'll be like, "What?" And I'm like, "They're actually really They're scared. But let me show you how they eat though." and then I'll get like goldfish and I'll throw it in there and then they'll just start ████ ripping it apart and they'll just be like, "Oh my god!" I'm all like, "Yeah, dude. Um I'm selling them if you want some." And they're like, "Oh, hell yeah!" And by the time I got the sale, dude. >> So, it Would you Would you be like the real value is buying like 30 of them? Cuz you can't just have like 10. >> Yeah, you can't have one. >> Yeah, just have one. >> Nah. >> And it's not enough. You need like 30. >> Nah. >> I only sell them in pairs. Yeah, to really get the water thrashing. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> To really impress them. >> Be like $5 for the small one, 10 for the bigger one. >> often were you making sales? >> Well, I sold a bunch of different It wasn't just piranhas. It was just It was

2:37 like It was I had a I had a I had like a 300-gallon tank in my living room. I had a couple of tanks in my garage. So, it was just like a bunch. >> Wait, how much How much for one piranha? >> I forgot. Maybe like $5 or something. >> $5? So, you really could get 30. >> Yeah, yeah. >> You would have to get 30. >> But, you had to get volume though. Like, I was going to the fish store like every week and >> What do you mean going to the They just had piranhas in the fish store? >> Yeah, like it was a whole network. >> Wait, were you doing this thing where you buy them and then you undercut the fish store? >> [laughter] >> You undercut your supplier? >> learned about profit by then. >> Okay. [laughter] They give wholesale prices. >> had them. Dude, I remember I was going to the airport because um my friend's uncle was a distributor for Asian arowanas. So, Asian arowanas were

3:27 illegal. They're like the long ones, right? >> They're the colorful ones. >> They're ████ That's That's a black market fish. >> So, how much is that? >> That could be in the hundreds to the thousands. So, like >> you get one? >> So, So, we were there and he had to like file customs and then the um the game warden or whatever, they had to check the animal. So, what you're hoping is um they don't know their ████ that well. >> Oh. >> And it's a we were there for a minute and I just remember looking at him >> The person who's hired to know his ████ you're hoping he doesn't know his >> Yeah, could be. Cuz there's just so much. >> like how some cops don't know the law. >> [laughter] >> There's so much, bro. Like >> Cuz there's just as many game wardens as there are cops, by the way. >> Cuz think about it. They're probably looking for like a monkey or something like a tiger, right? >> They're not They're not looking for like

4:18 a species >> That's not a tiger. Next tiger. >> They're They're bringing in like hella fish, hella amphibians. >> saying TSA's only looking for bombs, so bring this brick of cocaine through and >> No, but that's what they say though. Like when you When you hear people trying to sneak like drugs through, they're like They That's what they always say. They go, "They're not looking for drugs. They're looking for weapons." And I'm like, "Oh, okay. Thanks, buddy." >> I don't know who they is, but that's what I say. >> That's what I'm saying. It's a common theme, bro. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> They don't want your weed pens. >> You're talking reptiles, amphibians, fish, ████ crustaceans, ████ mammals. They have to remember all that ████ They're not going to remember all that. >> And the differences between them, yeah. >> And most of them, they just have to check it off and go like Like no one's I think they if they

5:09 caught >> Yeah, yeah. Did anybody give it to you while here at the airport? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Leave it unattended for a moment? >> Yeah. [laughter] Today I saw a fish. >> Well, shouldn't your game warden do? Jeez. >> And then my my friend's uncle was like, man, he probably had to be in his 50s, but he was like a child. Like so he came with his girlfriend and the whole time we were in the waiting room like I was sitting across him like this just waiting. And then he had this ████ toy car. >> The game warden? >> The No, my friend's uncle. >> Oh, ████ >> He game [laughter] warden. >> That would have been funny. >> Wait, wait, wait. But he Wait, but he had this toy car, right? Where you wind it up like that and let it go. So, imagine this 50-year-old >> Your friend's uncle is doing this in the airport. He's trying to throw off the scent that he's got an illegal fish.

6:01 >> [laughter] >> He was in the waiting room just ████ with this little toy car thing. Like and then we're just sitting there I'm just watching him play with a toy car and I'm like, I can't believe this guy's like one of the biggest fish smugglers in the game. >> Oh, that's how he does it? >> No, he's like there's no way that's the baron of fish. >> think he's done it so many times that he's just like, I better find something to keep busy. >> So, they don't look nervous. >> is before like cell phones and ████ So, he was just ████ around with a toy car. His girlfriend's bored as ████ This is the back in the day where people just used to wait and stare at each other. >> That's true, yeah. >> And then it's like you smoke cigarettes or you talk. >> Yeah. >> Read whatever magazine they got there forever, yeah. >> Life magazine, my favorite. >> Boringest magazine. >> And if it wasn't that, he had like one of those remote control cars that you had with a gun. >> What the hell? Like a Tyco thing?

6:52 >> and then he would just be >> [screaming] >> like a little >> Okay, well that's way cooler than the picture you just drew of a 50-year-old just like >> No, he had both. He had both. He had >> Is that because he's always in customs waiting? >> Yeah, I think he knew the game. He knew that we were going to wait a while. So, I was like I forgot why the ████ we went with him. >> That really makes him look less nefarious. >> Cuz he we could have told him waited until after, but he got them. He split some of the fish with us. And um That's yeah, Asian Arowanas, man. A couple hundred bucks a peep a pair. >> That's [snorts and clears throat] sick. >> Yeah, and then they come in crazy colors, too. But they they raise them in Southeast Asia. >> fish did they get through? >> They're like this big. They're babies. So, some of them come dead, too. >> Oh, how many was that in total? >> I don't remember, but they they had a they had a huge bunch of ████

7:42 >> Damn. >> Yeah. So, the one on the left corner that's South American. So, uh these are Asians. >> They're not as good. Damn, look at this guy. Yeah, those colors are tight. >> Yeah, they could be thousands of dollars, and they're really fun to watch eat, too. >> Ooh. They have a underbite, huh? >> How long do they live? >> Um I don't know. I never even had one that long, but >> So, you would sell these to fish stores? >> No, these are to private buyers. So, you you They're when they're small, you kind of like raise them until they get a little bit bigger. >> back then? >> It's all word of mouth, cuz back then >> Not many people are talking about arowanas. >> No, we're talking about the early >> right circles, man. >> Oh. >> If there's a maybe like two arowana dealers in a whole city, everybody's

8:32 going to know who that is that cares about it, right? It's like a guy who knows a guy. It's like It's like in ████ college and people trying to buy weed when weed wasn't like medically around. So, everybody would be like, "Oh, like who's your weed guy?" And he'd be like, "Oh, it's this guy." And then two Exactly. And then two degrees down, two degrees down, you realize it all goes back to the same one guy. >> to do an experiment, dude. >> It is Aimar, though. I remember >> Why are you saying his name, dude? >> Okay, sorry. We should try to ask We start asking random friends, "Do you know where I can buy some arowanas or whatever? Arowanas?" What's it called? >> Do you mean with the $20 smoothies? >> Yeah. [laughter] What what what's the uh thing? >> If arowana >> go to a fish store, if you guys go to a fish store every day, and you become pretty close with the owner, he'll eventually tell you everything. >> [laughter]

9:22 >> Are they pretty lonely? >> He'll eventually tell you everything. >> [laughter] >> Okay. Okay. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEY TATTOOED ME UNDERAGE. >> [laughter] >> Just get out of here. >> So much time that he went to the fish store every day, and then also went to the tattoo parlor every day. >> He's like, "Bro, you're back again?" >> Do you have hanging out at the fish store too long? The guy just starts out going, "Nice day, isn't it?" And you don't say anything and he just goes, >> [snorts] >> "All right, I'll tell you where to find the arowanas." >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I'll ████ I'll tell you everything. What do you want to know? He just runs out of dialogue? All right, I'll tell you everything. >> Some Asian fish stores though, they didn't give a ████ They would have their illegal fish displayed. >> Oh, I believe that, 100% yeah. >> Dude, they were selling illegal mini turtles on the side in ████ Chinatown and ████ >> they don't downtown they have bunnies. They got bunnies all over the sidewalk.

10:13 >> took it over. The Mexicans cornered that market of illegal >> The illegal What okay, what >> They sell parakeets. >> What's more exotic than the bunnies that they're selling down there? They got they got reptiles. They have like the different iguanas and ████ like that. But it's Sasha cuz smack was like she was so hurt seeing all those bunnies. So she like tried to call animal control and was like, "Hey, like isn't there anything you can do because it's like this every single day?" Cuz you know we had our studio there, we'd walk by it every day. And then they were just straight up like, "No, there's nothing we can do." Like they were just so straight up about it. Like, "If we go in there and tell them to take it, they'll just pack up and leave and they'll be right out next day. Like we don't have time to go there every day." >> But like duh, that's just how it is. >> Yeah, but they just said there's no way. There's nothing. >> And you just you knew that though. >> Do what? >> But you knew that, right? >> What I know? What do you mean? >> You were just letting smack call knowing

11:03 that she couldn't do anything. Like what they were going to >> I've never I've never even called animal control before. I don't really know what they say, but >> That's like us being like, "Hey dude, I'm trying to run a restaurant here, but this hot dog cart's out." Like dude. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just never thought they would be that Like usually they have a lie to tell you. >> Got you. >> They were just straight up like very straightforward and like saying, "Nah, there's nothing we can do." I was like, "Damn, dude, that's crazy. They're selling these like little bunnies in cages in the heat and they're like >> And they're like, "If we get rid of them it's going to affect the legal bunny population so we can't do that. We have to keep them stable. >> You know all the lakes and ponds are all ████ the ecosystem's ████ in California because all the Asian Buddhists would buy all the fish from the market or like not the market but the fish store not knowing that some of them were hella invasive. >> No way. >> Buddha say to let them go and then they

11:55 would >> Shut up. >> drop it off at the ponds or like the the reservoirs and all these invasive ████ fish come and start destroying the ecosystem. >> That's what Bart's mom did too, right? >> That's a Buddhist thing to buy fish and release it to the water? >> Yeah, they're like >> What the hell? >> We're doing a good job. Yeah. >> I mean there's there's something about that seems morally correct. >> But into a reservoir that makes no sense. >> Dude, they just I don't know but the ecosystem got ████ up. It just backfired. >> too you could just throw that fish to its death. >> [laughter] >> Like once you throw it in >> It could be fish food. >> Yeah. >> Those those videos are so ████ up but I can't turn away. >> It really >> You know when they're like releasing an animal into the wild or a fish and they're like oh we're going to finally let blah blah Philip go and then it immediately gets eaten. >> I mean hey circle of life, right?

12:45 >> Yeah. >> Food chain. >> That means you weren't supposed to save it. >> In [laughter] in Buddha's defense >> You can't beat nature, bro. >> You're going to invade or be invaded so ████ it. >> It's we who are we to decide it in a glass cage. >> And the the Everglades too like people just all these like snake dealers they'll throw like all these snakes into the wild so they could like grow and get older and get bigger and then go back and go get them. But now they have all these invasive like snakes all in these jungles and they're just eating everything. And it's just like a big problem but it kind of happens everywhere. >> You helicopter trips shooting boars. >> Well that's in Texas, I think. But same idea. >> The richest man >> He got trampled by an elephant. >> No, the richest man, billionaire in India, his son >> Got trampled by an elephant. >> His son is going to is trying to buy all

13:36 80 hippos that are Pablo Escobar's uh drug hippos. Yeah, he's trying to uh >> He had 80? >> He brought four and they turned into 80. >> Damn. >> So they're wild now. >> 80 hippos. >> You don't want to do with hippos because they're monsters. >> Yeah, so >> They'll destroy everything. >> To like his 150,000 animal like conservatory thing in India and because they're each hippo is like 2 to 4,000 lbs, it costs like $3 million to transport one. >> They got to put them in like those giant uh cargo ships or cargo planes? >> Yeah, something like that. >> You probably got to sedate them. They're big as ████ >> Because the only um other option is for them to get killed. >> Yeah, that's literally the only other option. >> Sure, no, I I get it. So we got to kill a couple. >> Can you imagine being a like Amazon tribes person and you're just chilling

14:27 and a ████ hippo rolls up and you're like, "What the ████ I never seen this s███." Like what ████ Buddhist UNLOCKED THIS GUY? >> [laughter] >> HAVE YOU SEEN them chase boats? They are so scary. >> Hippos chasing boats? >> Bro, look it up right now. >> Really terrifying. >> They're fast as hell and they're really aggressive. >> aren't they like underratedly violent? >> So there's a story about a guy who went with his wife to his like South Africa or something. Hippo pulled his chick out of out of the out of the boat and ate her head in front of her. >> Okay. Is that AI? >> No, if it's AN INSIDE EDITION >> THAT? >> THEY'RE FAST. >> YO, HOW? >> [laughter] >> THEY SWIM LIKE THAT? >> STROKE. They're doing the butterfly stroke. >> No way. >> Think about how much force they can create in the water. Scary, dude. >> fast. >> just go in the water and then their ears >> Sometimes. I didn't know they could do

15:18 the butterfly. Yeah. >> do that stroke? know >> This is a different video. >> Are they carnivorous? I thought they just eat ████ grass. >> be. They They kill alligators. Maybe they're not eating them, they're just killing them. >> Bro, you're telling me this ████ Dude. >> ████ >> Your arm is hanging out the boat and they get a little bit, you're done. And they have a They have a really powerful bite, too, I think. >> Yeah, I've seen them eat watermelons and ████ >> That's true. To compete with alligators, you got TO BE GANGSTER. >> WOAH! >> YO, HE GOT THERE QUICK. >> YO, HOW DID HE GET there so quick? >> the jaw is, dude. Thumbs up. >> Why are they attacking boats? What's wrong with them? >> Racism. Maybe not attacking. May- Maybe they're trying to mate. But apparently, that's what they say is they're very When there's babies around, they're really overprotective. So, they'll come and try to thrash you.

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