0:00 But it's like, what's his face? Rupert Grint from Harry Potter and then he got like an ice cream ban. >> Like that's how you use your money and like move on. Just do something fun with it. Yeah, >> that's dope. Lame. >> So, are you guys seeing uh kind of everywhere that uh people are a little bit like sick of Pedro Pascal? >> No. >> Man, you guys don't use the internet, huh? >> Nope. I don't have time for that. What's going on? >> I don't follow liberal news. So there's just like a widespread thing that like Pedro Pascal is just too much everywhere >> that he's like in everything that you see like whether it's social media, commercials, u every movie, TV show. And it's not his fault. Like the dude just happened to be on uh like some of the biggest shows that ended up lasting so freaking long. And when you're on like
0:51 really heavy mainstream studio stuff, you have to promote those things. So you end up on every >> the one that I did see that circulated to my extremely conservative feed was um when Pedro was at like Comic-Con or whatever >> and then I apparently I think he has crazy anxiety and I think his co-star knows. >> So when they're like when he's like talking like then he would like go like this and then they would like hold hands and you would see him like calm down. That's the only one that that the only one that made it to my feet. >> That's the only one that slipped through all of your mega content. But also like good for him as an actor like you want to work as much as possible. >> Yeah. But then like I guess like people have like uh started saying that like it's it's there's like a backlash of like a real actual backlash where eventually that could be bad for your career because people are like oh there's you're overexposed. >> True. I get you like you're tired of seeing them.
1:41 >> It stops being funny. Like it was cute at first. He would pop up. He was like the perfect guy. >> Everyone had a crush on him. And now it's like he's kind of >> you become a caricature. >> Yeah. >> So now he's like a caricature of himself rather than actually just like a charming guy, >> you know, because you play the same >> joke too too much. >> So there's a Pedro fatigue now. >> Exactly. Yeah. There's like a Pedro fatigue where people are like, "Oh my god, Mandalorian and freaking Fantastic 4 and like and he's just always there." And now the the meme is that Pedro Pascal is in everything. He's like the Shen Yune of like actors. How come how come no one else be getting jobs? Maybe they suck. So that's why people just like hiring Pedro. >> It's not even that. I don't think it's that he's getting getting way more jobs than everybody. It's that he just got the best jobs that require you to make
2:31 appearances the most. So he's just like set up for like like you know like a good actor on one good movie. Like let's say when Lord of the Rings came out all those guys were just like everywhere >> like promoting it and you know one thing just leads to 10 things. So if you're in two things, >> when the severance finale came, that whole cast was constantly in every single show you can think of. >> Would you guys rather be a part of one iconic thing or be like the B-grade actor that's in everything? >> I I would say everything because I need more money, more residuals. >> No, but the Lord of the Rings people make way ████ more >> in terms of like you now. Like it's it's more like if you made money, you'd you'd already be rich either way. Let's say you made money. >> Okay, >> it's two. Which type of rich do you want? >> Yeah. Let's say you made money both like same exact amount. Okay. But then one is
3:23 that you're known and then that becomes your character. They're just like, oh, that's who you are. You're Iron Man or whatever. >> Can't erase that from you. >> And and then that's the only role you got and everything else never amounted to that role because they just can't see anybody else but Bilbo Baggins. >> Yeah. Like let's say theoretically, this probably isn't true, but let's say Moli Kulkin made the same amount of money >> as a dude from Lord of the Rings as Froto Baggins or whatever. >> Mhm. >> Who would you rather be? >> Because honestly, if you're Moly Kane, if you had the same amount of money, you work a lot less. You could spend more time with your friends. >> I'd rather be the iconic oneoff. >> Yeah. You could actually live a life >> or you have Yeah, exactly. You want to live a normal life. >> Yeah, you're right, man. Or are you like that passionate about your craft that you never want to stop working?
4:13 >> Yeah, I think I think that that would be me. I would not want to stop working. I would just like let's keep going. >> I think my adds would be many projects but B or C in all of them. >> It's basically would you rather be Mark Zuckerberg or Tom from MySpace? >> But then those wealth things are ████ >> dynamically different. I like a lot of different because I I feel like it's like what if you want to do action one day and then next role you get you're doing drama and then the next role you're doing comedy but then if you're like >> I think it's more ADD friendly if you're like that. >> But if you're like let's say oh you know a good example would be Harry Potter series cuz that just went through the whole childhood and that's kind of like that becomes who you are. >> Yeah. And then that's what you're known for. And then maybe you'll get a role later when you're 60 cuz it's like different. Like that's when it's like you look so different, right? >> Harry Potter like becomes the um
5:05 Gandalf. >> Oh, like later on. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like a spin-off or what? >> That'd be ████ amazing. >> But then that'll I think that'll be like the or like a or like Game of Thrones like or like you're like I don't know. They all went off to doing other things too, but still I think that's kind of your character. People just think that Jon, you're Jon Snow when they see you. >> Jon Snow. >> What about that character from Game of Thrones um that played Joffrey? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that guy. >> Yeah, that guy who he his character was so hated that he ended up quitting acting because of it. >> People would throw ████ at him in public cuz he was so convincing and they couldn't separate. >> What a great actor. You did your job so incredibly well. >> Being an actor, see, that's how dumb people are, man. >> You are dumb though. >> It's like Skyler in Breaking Bad. Oh yeah, that ████ always ████ ████ up, dude.
5:56 >> Dude, like that one actor from uh Eight Miles, the girl that cheated on him. >> Yeah, >> Britney Murphy >> in the studio. >> Yeah, Britney Murphy, right? >> But I hate that. >> She passed away now. >> Hit you that hard that you think you met Britney Murphy. >> No. >> You know what? You know what though? It is it is a real thing that like I'm sure like at the level of like stardom when you're like a big celebrity actor, >> you probably do have an agent or a manager that needs to be careful of this happening to you. >> Overexposure. >> I know. But I I feel like they're not going to care also cuz they want that cut, >> but they but they want to make sure they can keep milking the same goat. >> But for them it's longevity. They have to, you know, they got to keep them going as long as possible. Or you have a manager that goes, "Oh, well, if you suck ass, I'm moving on." >> Well, because that's a bad manager if
6:46 like you you should be able to recognize that as an artist if your manager is just saying yes to ████ everything. >> But at the same time, it's Hollywood. >> Well, but that's not that's not necessarily saying yes to everything. Cuz the things they said yes to that got him there are all things everyone would say yes to. >> Like Star Wars, you don't want to be part of that franchise. Of course you do. >> Mhm. >> You know, >> but they might believe the hype. Like if everybody's loving him, everything is going great. You get into your head like, "Oh, we can do no wrong. Just keep putting him out there. Putting him out there. Yeah, that's probably >> so lovable and then they're like cuz he hasn't done anything wrong. He hasn't said anything problematic or anything. >> He's just like very left. >> Yeah, kind of. >> I don't know. I don't even know what stance is. >> But then it's just Yeah. overexposure >> and like where does that line even get drawn? >> But it's like not his fault cuz who knew that those things would be wildly successful? I mean he he's on that Apple commercial that uh Spike Jones just did.
7:36 >> Also, what a great problem to have though. You're you're so overly exposed. Yeah. But then I don't know if like if you're the person that, you know, like we were saying, those two people, one just, you know, is content with having a badass job. The other one wants to just have the career trajectory that they're comparing themselves to someone probably better than them. So that wouldn't be a good outcome for them if they got overexposed. I'm sure people that like I'm sure like at that level of like anything like when you're that big, you're probably really critical of yourself >> and you're probably considering so many more things cuz you're you you're feeding so many machines that so many machines have a say in your life, >> you know? Like imagine like you are like the next biggest Batman or whatever and then ████ on your Instagram you're snowboarding like ████ Warner
8:27 Brothers like what the ████ are you risking those legs? You can't be risking those legs out of those slopes. >> Mhm. >> Like get your ass back down here. I I find it so weird that like you know like certain fans when they see somebody like I don't know like Will Frell Jim Carrey worrying about like like when Jim when when Will Frell had that stint where he did like a 10 picture deal or some ████ and too many movies came out and everyone was sick of him and the movie started getting like no people just stopped watching him and then like people have that opinion of like who cares you made a ton of money on Anchor Man you're fine. That opinion is so strange to me because it's like this dude wants to work. Like he wants to make he has a dream for his career that goes beyond where he's at now. >> Yeah. >> But then it's it's so funny that they can't picture that. But yet everybody in corporate America is by default making
9:18 more money than they need. >> You know what I mean? Like the goal is to make is to hoard millions and billions and trillions. And it's like that is understandable. But actors >> also supporting a lifestyle that's completely more >> Yeah. It's probably Wilfredo has accomplished so much more out of reach than what that person's complaining about that they can't fathom why anyone would want anymore. >> Right. Right. >> But doesn't that fall back down to like would that's an artist vibe. There's a business vibe. >> Yeah. >> That mentality. That's what's weird is that it's it's people without using their brain can fathom why Nestle would want to make more money this year and why they wouldn't just stop now because everyone's rich. >> Maybe because the Yeah. Like they don't look at it as business and companies. Like kind of like how I went into TV studios and I didn't realize how much it was just a business.
10:08 >> Yeah. >> Versus like I thought it was way more art >> but it's really not. Everything is just business. >> Yeah. And competition. Like if they don't think of the next thing, somebody else will and somebody else takes over. So he could say no to a job, somebody else gets that job, >> they now become bigger than him. Now the studio is choosing them for the next one. >> Yeah. Cuz in entertainment, you got to like ride the wave and just go hard and cuz you don't know. You might be like they might look at you as a onetrick pony >> and then they're like, "Okay, you're yesterday's news, baby." >> Mhm. >> Yeah. That's that's what's hard, too, is that like everyone's in constant competition. >> Mhm. So like whether you look at a celebrity and you're like that guy's got enough money he can stop. It's like who's he thinking of? >> But who knows? I mean there's a lot of Nicholas Cages out there who like blow through money and like >> I mean even like um you guys heard about
10:58 like what happened with uh Bruno Mars. The reason why he has a residency at the MGM and all that. It's like he went he gambled a ton of money and then to settle his debt he was like okay I'll do a residency here. But that's been maintained as like not true. >> Oh, really? I guess that's a rumor. >> But then but then again, like >> But I'm not surprised of these rumors though. Like it happens. >> It happens all the time. So that's why I'm like, "Yeah, but the money's not forever." And we all know like rock stars and artists like we blow that ████ like no tomorrow. No one's ████ getting rental properties and like >> like they're not like Magic Johnson. Like they're smart with their cash and then they they build an empire. Most people aren't. Did you guys see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? >> Yes. >> I think that that was a like even if it's like >> it did have a really good I guess like
11:49 message of how >> Leonardo DiCaprio's character even though he was wildly successful, the feeling of being a hasband is like unforgivable to yourself. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. If that's your goal. >> Yeah. >> No, that's true. Cuz then it's not about the money anymore. It's about staying relevant. That's like your personality. Yeah. And even if you have enough money for the home that you own and the lifestyle you have, it's like for people to call you like, "Oh, you used to be good or you used to be this >> and to have someone take your place like like Zoolander, like where Hansel starts winning the s███." Like something dies in your ego and that can't be like fixed. >> I met I met a guy that was I got a vibe from that way early on. Uh so when I first got Head Shots cuz I wanted to get into acting this maybe like ████ over 10 years ago. um this photographer, he
12:40 lived in a pretty sick house. I think it was in Silver Lake somewhere. And so he was shoot he converted uh his back garage into a photo studio and I was getting my head shots done >> and we're just talking and I'm like, "Damn, for photography you own a house like it was like in Mount Washington, you know, where like the homes are like all hell expensive?" >> Yeah. >> I'm like, "From photography? You make this much?" He goes, "No, actually like >> um I I made my first fortune being the May Tag guy." I was like, "The May Tag guy?" He goes, "You know those washing machines?" I'm like, "Yeah." He goes, "There used to be like the guy and then when they would have grand openings, they would tour and I'm the guy wearing the uniform." I'm like, >> "Holy ████ you are the May tag guy." >> And back then they would have like these crazy sevenf figureure contracts >> to be the person kind of like you know like like the progressive lady or you know like that, right? Like like Flo. >> So he was the May tag guy and then he
13:31 did all of that and then now I guess just to keep himself busy he like does head shot. But you could every time he talks about like the May tag tours or whatever, you just see this glimmer in his eye like like the days, you know? >> It's like the Verizon guy. >> Yeah. Like the days. I'm like, "Wow, that's great. >> I can't do that." No, I have to constantly reinvent myself and do something different. And then like >> Yeah. I like I like the beginner effect, but I also don't like the the has been feeling because that means you don't have anything else to look forward to. That means like you're living in the past because you you don't like what's going on now and you don't have anything >> coming up next. >> That guy must have made so much money for being in the commercials back then, >> right? >> Those contracts were freaking dude. >> But like a lot of people would take half that just to stay relevant
14:22 >> cuz it's like >> what are you going to do if you don't have if you don't have a next chapter in life? That's also painful. >> It's just so relative. It's like nobody becomes great by comparing themselves to the person not doing what they do. It's like they get great comparing themselves to the another great guy. >> But it does feel good to to compare yourself with homeless people. >> I want to live the disappear lifestyle. >> Mhm. >> Like if I was the May tag guy, >> I just I don't need another thing to stay fulfilled. I'm like I'm done. Like I already It's like, you know, if you beat one game, you're like, "F███, I got to play another game." I'm like, "No, I beat the game. >> That's it. I'd be so content with just beating the game once. >> Yeah. >> I think I look at commercial actors that get those roles as like you ████ did it, dude. But >> you know, they also get talked to by other actors like, "Oh, you're not a real actor." >> You know what I mean? Like the right
15:15 That's the thing. >> We don't we don't care about that. But I I'm sure that like in the circles that they end up in from being rich and famous, they will care. Like >> the status >> or someone will like make them care because they're being a dick. You know what I mean? Like it's such a weird thing cuz like no matter how successful you get, then you run into the new circle. >> You get even better than that. You run into the new circle and those circles have toxic people that make you want to feel like ████ over the thing you did, >> you know? But then we're down here going, "Dude, that's ████ sick. >> I would love to do that. >> I just like new challenges, man. Just keep doing new things." >> Yeah. Don't Don't be like, "I used to be the mascot for ████ Trojan condoms." >> Kind of sad. >> I think those things are so fun if if it's like funny to you, but like sad when you're like, >> "I should have been bigger." >> Yeah, that's true. >> But it's like, what's his face? Rupert Grin from Harry Potter and then he got
16:06 like an ice cream ban. >> Like that's how you use your money and like move on. Just do something fun with it. Yeah. But still lame.
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