0:00 it's like hey man there's a cat in a tree okay but I'm about to bust this human trafficking ring so like sorry kitty cat going to have to chill and welcome back to another amazing episode of the careful boys where we have the lieutenant in the building [Applause] a never going to get used to that it's going to catch on I promise it's a huge it's got to be a thing everyone's going to do it as we've already we've already got the merch with you just oh that'd be horrible if I walk into work cuz there's a lot of young guys that see this at work I walked in and they do this you made that up you told us to do that every video yeah you emailed us a whole syllabus yeah it was on your writer it was a Tik Tok tutorial cop
0:51 shaving me all right I'm going ask this question hopefully you don't get into the heat nah you won what laws do you currently not not agree with that you have to enforce great top five whack as laws let's see and can you even talk about that probable cause freedom of speech no I can talk about I just can't I can't think of it oh no not not that's not the law I don't freedom ofe top five worst amendments bare arms no way are there there are some like traffic laws that I don't enforce because I might you be guilty of it too like Ed windows I think that's cool that's cool unless it's like a tinted like overly tinted front windshield and it becomes a safety hazard or something then yeah I'm going to probably tell them what's what's the logic behind why you you feel like
1:41 they're okay to have because if I'm cuz my my car is tinted right so I'm like I'm not going to we got him come here and I just think it goes to the the thing that I'm not going to enforce something on someone that I'm doing myself right that's hypocritical I just don't want to be a hypocrite what do you think cops that do enforce tin Windows though huh nerds yeah nerds are there those guys though like in the department where you're like you follow the book so hard there is no Humanity in you cuz everything is like has to be perfect yeah but like what what makes one person tick may not make the other person tick you know what I mean like like for me littering just gets on my nerves man if I see someone throwing a cigarette out the window and I see the Sparks dude that's an I'm pulling them over have you ever issued the Thousand fine no um oh you've never had cuz it's ,000 fine right yes
2:32 butat on the the few times I've I've done that it's led to an arrest they either had a no Bell warrant yeah they had a warrant or something you know cuz the process is you ask them for their license and you run you want to know who you're talking you run the thing and then they're inevitably wanted and the few times I've done that where I've seen the the thing uh the the flicker of the cigarette um it always led to a bigger arrest interesting cuz those behaviors probably only a real dead beat would do something like that huh that's I have a completely hypothetical scenario never happened what if uh I'm walking at like 6:00 in the morning saying like a beautiful city like Pasadena old town and uh I'm crossing the street there's no cars in sight I happen to jaywalk and I get a ticket for that would would you give me a ticket that's a Pasadena thing is it yeah I've never given a jaywalking ticket but remember when Oldtown used to be happening MH right and people that
3:23 was a thing I think so it's ingrained in their culture but you know what he told me that he walked into the restaurant and then the cops walked into the restaurant and then gave you a ticket inside at 6 a.m. yeah it was at 6: a.m. I just finished a couple sessions and I'm like okay am I going to get the oong mountain was the street relatively clear it was empty dude it was I it was green and raymen I didn't even see this guy and he pulled me he's like can I talk to you outside I was like yeah officer go what's up he thought he was going to ask you to help him solve a crime you were like hey you look like a fine strapping young lad I bet you what happened that morning was somebody said you ever brought a jaywalking ticket no I never did I bet you can't find one my dumb ass locked nobody's dumb enough to do that around here damn it was such a problem that I think eventually they changed the crosswalks uh on Colorado Boulevard in Oldtown to to diagonal cross yeah they did they right cuz of
4:14 you not cuz of me it happened you got policy change mine was just a single it was just a single across dude it was just a bummer yeah and and and sometimes you just have a cop that is just like whatever makes him tick right I you never know like maybe maybe in his prior uh experience he he had a came across a bad bad fatality because someone and from that day forward he vowed to always stop that in his mind he's saving your life yeah for sure yeah I don't know I mean I'm making up that hype part of me was really upset but the other side of me was like he did catch me do it you know he did see me do it so it's like what do I got got everyone gets got in your opinion do you think there's anything he could have said get out of that uh probably I mean you know like we don't write tickets to punish people that's not it's not we're not the punishment arm that's the judicial we're
5:04 we're the executive we we try to educate you and if I feel like if I pulled you and it's happened a lot when I pull people over and they they're on I did run that stop and and I I live around the corner and there's never any cross traffic and if I was in an unfamiliar place I would have definitely stopped but yeah I got lazy uh complacent and none of that came to mind no you just were stuttering idiot cuz it's yeah you're not you're not yourself uh like you don't go what fool what yeah I should have I wish I was tougher I I wish I was cooler I wish I had I would more cuz that's not your nature yeah I'm not really I'm I'm more I'm more of a rule follower too so it's like I had I had to look at myself in the mirror after that one I was like where's your life going let me ask you this when you go to an when you go to a crosswalk and it just turned the stop right don't walk and you still walk cuz you know it's
5:54 yeah are you breaking the law then I do a like jog does that do I get bonus points for that yeah I mean so I mean it's just one of those things I some people are just sticklers when it comes to certain things for me it was a cigarette flicking out of the window and this and for this guy it might have been a j Watcher jeez yeah are there any policies that you don't agree with like not just laws but you're like why do they do that huh well I mean we do have one at my agency where briefings have to be uh you know your roll call your briefings have to be a certain time limit but sometimes um you know especially a day after he had a major event I think you should extend those briefings right to debrief and sometimes those discussions around the room what we could have done better becomes a training opportunity and and to and if the sergeant just looking at the clock hey guys we got to wrap this up in 5 minutes because they're afraid they're going to get um chastised by their boss it's like no uh use your you
6:47 know your grown-ups you you're a supervisor use your big boy decision- making and say no we're going to extend briefing for 10 minutes and then the the reason why they say that well it's like okay we let that go and we have calls building up we need you to go on the street so I see both arguments but the the time ones where they're strict on time really get to me the policies where they're like hey you must be on the street by this time it's like well there are factors that that dictate whether he can or not right what about like uh the catch and release program like what um what was the whole purpose of that where like people they they catch them and then they book them for maybe a day or two they're back out on the street doing the exact same thing like what was I'm sure every like policy has a good intention but outcome's just dumb I I think bottom line for that one was just overcrowding jail over there's no room for them if we put every misdemeanor in
7:37 the jail on top of every felony in the jail there just there's no place to put them so that was the their way of not overcrowding the jails yeah pretty much build more jails yeah well then people have a problem with that and for a while we had private jails remember corporations saw an opportunity hey the governments don't have the money to pay build and they didn't like the for-profit jail system and also it's hard to find land to build jails on because no one wants a gel in their Community all right what do you feel about like let's say that you're at like a like a barbecue with a bunch of like just buddies and then uh you guys are just checking out guns and then uh some dudes got his gun out everybody's got registered Firearms whatever he's just doing a bunch of guy stuff oops this guy got a extended mag is that a thing or are you like Ah that's an ATF thing whatever okay so a
8:28 300 rounder real life scenario um Dr a guy did drive through my city uh with a extended mag like I think I forget a 15 round mag nothing obnoxious on his pistol and um so when I pulled him over I said hey you have any weapons or anything the car my usual spill yes I have my my glock and I just let you know I have a 15 18 R mag like huh interesting uh do you have a a legal reason for that I don't know if it's a legal reason but I just got stationed here I'm in the military I I was in another state where my gun that the magazine that came in this gun was legal to have a high cap capacity magazine I said oh okay and after I'm feeling him out for a while I'm like this guy is serving our nation he he just he showed me the the papers that showed me he's in the military and that he just got assigned over here but you can't move through the state with that right I mean this is where I'm kind of more of a
9:19 constitutionalist right uh I believe the Constitution supersedes any state constitution and we do swear an oath to both but I think in the hierarchy of things the Constitution the United States Constitution is the overarching umbrella that supersedes a state one so um have I used it to my advantage yeah if it's someone that's out there causing trouble and they committed a crime with that gun yes I will add charge them with that and call me hypocrite if you will but um I think the reason why we have the spirit of the law as opposed to just um the letter of the law is because it they they pay people that have the uh discernment to determine well was this their Criminal Intent in this or there was there not Criminal Intent and I would say I would argue the overwhelming majority of people that have extended magazines do so because they want to have an equal footing with the bad guys that are going to be com you know that
10:09 why do you have a gun for protection if the bad guys who don't have any care for the law or rule are going to have 20 30r magazines if I'm going to protect my house I'm not going to be undergunned I'm going to have equal or more so um I think the overwhelming people that have guns in this country are law-abiding citizens and sure are there people that commit crimes with with guns yes are those guns legally purchased no are they going to have legal uh uh magazines with them no absolutely not that's a good answer that was a good answer thank you constitution of before get into like a you know um a family one last thought with that said we did have a moratorium in California um on high capacity magazines it was legal for a while and then shortly the court said hold on let's put
10:59 moratorium on the moratorium so I think it's coming I think especially under this new they called it was it they called like Freedom week or something there's that one week where you could do it so everyone was like buy it now and then if you get pulled over just say you bought it during that week what what week so if the government's willing to flex Flex that way and be flexible with that I think me as an enforcement officer can be flexible too sorry no no no no that's great I didn't want to lose that thought I wish I went during Freedom week um that's why I all of my magazin week I got it during Freedom week I didn't get no emails about fre Hawaii like this is I'm going to Hawaii uh later on this year and um you know normally when I travel in the states when I'm flying I always declare a weapon and I take it with me but Hawaii is one of those difficult States um that I I'm considering not taking it with me when I it's interesting it's like it's
11:50 it's difficult in other ways but it's they don't have like a roster like we do in California you can you can get whatever sure but but you have to register your gun right if you move there you have to register within a certain day well yes and no but yeah technically you just have to go to the station and declare it okay but you walk in and then you just say hey I landed this is what I got but they're also pretty forgiving when it comes to Common Sense stuff like hey I came here I'm flying in for vacation you know I'm not going to go to the station tomorrow I might go like 4 days later yeah there's this thing where like I was going to ask you about this cuz my girl always cries about this when we were uh we had our um our studio in uh the fashion district downtown LA for a while so we would always be walking around Maple Avenue and in this area there's like um a lot
12:41 of Street vendors that have like clothes and stuff but then there's always a bunch of them that have like caged animals that they sell on the street all like bunnies and like yeah bunnies puppies guinea pigs little birds really really really small turtles yeah just all kinds of like animals that you're not supposed to be caging and they just sell them and every time we walk by she cries and calls like cops or animal control sometimes there's cops out there and they just completely know what's there and then they're just they just shrug and they're like there's nothing you can do if we you know go over there they'll just grab them and run and then or if we arrest them they there's nothing you can do another one will be out there the next day so they just don't bother to do anything about it what do you think of that yeah I mean with LA specifically I think they is it a crime yeah right um is it a municipal code violation that's what it is it boils down to being a municipal code violation so what does that what does
13:31 that mean so you know there's different codes right there's the penal code which is a state code so it's like City yeah Municipal it that's exactly what it is codes established by that municipality so like Street Vending in Los Angeles is legal now um as long as you get a permit to do so so you don't have to be have a business license you don't have to see a health inspector but you can be a street vendor as long as you have uh a permit to do that and politics are politics and that largely dictate how Municipal codes go whereas in other stat you might have a city like Beverly Hills where Street vending is absolutely illegal it's not in their code to allow to do that it's just be it's it's just what your politicians want in that City and in La that if they allow um that type it may be illegal U and it probably other things too like there's probably Health Cod issues and stuff like that but they have bigger fish to fry sadly so they
14:21 have it's LA right and they have uh and we handled things based on a priority skill so this past weekend we there I got a a text from the chief who got um a message from a city council person and sent a picture saying hey there's literally a swap meet a makeshift swap meet somebody set up on the street can you deal with that absolutely it's illegal in our city to set up a mi oh Elman has no zero tolerance for that yes but it wasn't always a case too so when it was a a invoke thing to allow Street fending it was fine and then now that the when the this goes back to the politician so they a lot of Street fending kids are like you know some people are don't have the means to buy restaurant they you know politically it was Savvy for them to be on We allow it in our city and the food's bomb yeah pretty good stuff and then but then you have the business owners that live in the city pay taxes in the city they're
15:11 like hey I have to um pay uh rent for this building pay for um the utilities pay for a health inspector pay my business taxes and this guy is stealing business away from me and he doesn't have to pay any of that so now who so we the politicians kind of went well okay you're right we we should care for people that went through the process um but yeah so in the story I was telling you about the the message the chief got from the the council person we absolutely put that in the call log but at the same time we were down about 1015 calls and we handle calls by a priority of so it's not like that call wasn't important yeah and when everybody calls that call is important to that person yeah but a shooting's probably more important yes when you we triage all those things right and like and you have to handle in the best way the most important
16:02 things first it's like hey man there's a cat in a tree okay but I'm ████ about to bust this human trafficking ring so like sorry kitty cat going to have to chill human trafficking has got to wait and by the way most of the calls I get cat's going to leave soon cuz that's part of my job is listening to the complaints most of the people that complain aren't complaining about the officer themselves it's the procedure all of it's procedural complaint well why weren't it took you an hour to come Well ma'am I had a a child abuse call had a domestic violence at that house fire or whatever it still take you an hour and a half and you have to so it's you know under staffed yeah that must happen all even if we were fully St I mean most of the time we are fully staffed for the for our deployment it's just we get busy you know did you ever uh bust in elani did you ever bust any of those houses that were running brothel out of the house no uh but we
16:52 did have uh we do have a very active Vice team on our department they're called a special investigation team so they do narcotics gangs all that stuff um but yeah they do massage compliance checks and stuff like that heyo they check them good yeah so as a matter of fact uh the first time I I I'd worked as a Watch Commander I had never it was new to me because it's so close to the front desk um there were Asian people in the lobby applying to be um to get their background checks to be massage Mass massage therapists in our city so and it takes a special investigations team oh they have to go there have to do a background investigation on them so they get vetted and all that stuff to do that so then you have to do like titty profiling those are too big for legal activities probably like what those aren illegal you can't be a therapist yeah you have a
17:43 license car of those prostitute dude is it trueth I read I don't know if it was a I feel like it was I was reading an onion article but I read something that said that like when they were trying to bust these like massage parlors that it was getting so difficult that they made it legal that if there was an under cover investigator that they were allowed to uh Serv to they were allowed to let me investigate the quality of this brothel no yeah it said something like they were allowed to reveal that they were an officer after the service hey some to cover work sick yeah kind of uh not after the service per se but you have to have something called furtherance in order for prostitution to stick oh furtherance oh my favorite law okay tell about furtherance uh yeah so in California uh prostitution is the penal code is called 647b and every Penal Code has an element
18:33 right so it has to be a sexual service in exchange for um not necessarily money but exchange for uh a good let's just say I can't remember the specific word but but there has to be a benefit to receiving the sexual so if I'm in uh a massage parlor and I just and the massage massuse I I can't think of the word massage therapist massuse um massage guy Mass Massage guy m m rubber dude wants to give me a happy ending and there's no agreement that I was going to compensate them for that that's not that's not illegal is it a that's not prostitution that's not prostitution that's just free will it could be it could be a health uh code violation or a business code violation that sexual activities are occurring in there but that oh that that onus is on the business I see um but now let's just say
19:25 she's like hey I like your watch okay well here's here's a watch and and I'll give you a watch in exchange for a happy ending then that's an exchange of for like Goods or something Goods uh something comp compensating that person for what if that compensation happens 25 hours apart and you're just nice to each other well still an agreement was made there's no time limit to the uh when the agreement was made now furtherance could be that she agreed and said okay um and starts taking off her close Okay then you can argue that she was agreed to the ACT agreed for the compens station and started taking off for cloth to commensurate the ACT that's furtherance what the cops is like I need like definitive proof of this furtherance yeah what if the chief is like get in there get dirty just because I know come on Chief I mean you see it on I'm married Chief I can't remember I
20:16 can't remember where I read it I want to say it was like the onion too but I I did read Publications um where cops were fired for taking it too far and uh just doing their Duty what's the furthest even further kid go too far sometimes what's the what's the furthest 80% edging so when I was a deputy I was one like when I told you I came to the Sher part where it was rare to have Asian guys and um not to be confused with 647b but there was a lot of these Korean bars or restaurants that had something called be girls oh domies I don't I don't know what the the word is but that's the street name do there was no sexual act under cover guys there was no sexual act it was that you were basically they they were paying for your time right so like like hostesses kind of like hostesses right
21:06 when they would encourage you to hey why don't you buy me a drink oh just to get you to pay more money pay more and that's illegal they're called be girl activities so because I was one of the rare Korean guys at my department I I got to I got pulled out by Major Crimes and mind you I'm working in the jails at this time and I got pulled out for this activity with another Korean guy who is more um culturally savvy than me right I'm I'm like I'm I'm not culturally savvy with the Korean customs and stuff so like going into it he had to show me how to receive a drink or pour a drink uh right so that it didn't look like I was very Americanized because when you go into a Korean establishment like that where elicit activities happen and you appear more Americanized they'll sniff out a cut so it's kind of cool one of the cool things that happened I can admit to this is they gave me a c l of cash and allowed me to drink on as I'm on duty doing this and my whole job was
21:57 you get to seeing karaoke no it was this was a weird one it looked like a standard American Bar and like this Korean ant looking lady just Norm not dressed scantily cler they just normal clothes will sit with you she mixed me first time I ever had it and I kind of still like it today it strips of uh um um they call anim which is like snacks you have while you drink um strips of beef jerkey and then she mixed a a spoonful of mayonnaise and uh tapao and mixed it and she's I'm like oh like yeah dip your um beef jerky in that dude I was chowing down on that but I was also drinking too so I was like oh this is super cool that actually does sound good that sounds bomb and what's the thing that you had to get him for so to the the idea was I just did my thing and um so the people listening I had a a wire
22:47 on me ████ oh jeez the people listening were listening for how many times she she had me buy drinks for her or buy drinks for me and like her drink would be she'd probably take a maybe put it to her lips and not even finish it and the bartender will take it away and so oh my drink's done can you buy me another one sure you know taking advant taking advantage of a person that's intoxicated that's the illegal wow that was that big of a deal that they wanted to that's just good business yeah yeah yikes man I didn't know that was even a thing until I got called in to do that wow so that was the extent further R we got to look into this further boys h
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