0:00 showing everyone's Justin's throwaway pictures. >> Wow. Hell >> yeah. >> And then afterwards like, "Got it." And Justin's like, "It would be nice if I got promoted." Or >> Do you know anybody that's been doing content or uh YouTube or just anything for a really really long time and they have yet to blow up, but they deserve to? >> Question. Hey, >> I thought it'd be cool to like talk about those people cuz I feel like we might know somebody like that. I got one homie. He's been my friend since high school right after like college or maybe midway through college. This is probably like 200 uh 2, 2003. He started a movie reviews website
0:50 and he actually would get press passes and like go to like screenings and go to a bunch of stuff and then um and he started to actually get uh real legit interviews with like huge celebrities because like he'd be part of press junkets but he's just one guy. >> Wow. >> I don't even think he ever had another employee or anything. >> But uh his his website it's this it's called Rama Screen. This dude's name is Rama, and me and him, we like wrote the school song together our senior year, and he made this like uh movie review site, and it's been so consistent. >> Wow. >> Ever since like more than 20 years. >> Wow. >> But it hasn't blown up. It's just it's always there. Like any new movie that comes out, any new show, he watches it and he has an in-depth review. He has like an in-depth like
1:40 what he thinks of it and all and he watches every like episode to >> Is that his full-time gig now? >> I don't even know. >> It's cool that he's still doing it after all this time. >> Yeah, >> I love the game. I know a channel that would be tight to blow up. >> Just kidding news. Be pretty sick. We've been doing it for a long time, too. >> I would love that. >> Mhm. So, you think it never blew up? Not to like Maine Ma main M main cuz there's a lot of people that compare us to Flagrit and they think we're funnier or even Tiger Belly. They think that's at Tiger Belly level. Yeah. There's a lot of people that compare that to that but >> we're definitely not anywhere near >> that stratosphere, you know. >> Oh, even at its height? >> Yeah. No way. Nowhere near, I don't think. >> Damn. >> Not that I Yeah, I don't think so. Or maybe the industry itself wasn't as
2:30 sophisticated as it is now. Cuz now like podcasts immediately have like brand agency, booking agencies. So all you need to do is kind of build your own channel and then everyone else can kind of help help you laterally move across. >> But back then you have to do everything yourself. So if your channel blew up, still no one's going to book you unless you book yourself or no one's going to get you brand deals unless you reach yourself. So maybe, yeah, the industry is more sophisticated, so it's easier to expand. >> Look at this dude. So this is him. That's Rama. And he um he uploads all the time. Like this is 14 hours ago. >> That's 22 hours ago. His his views are like in the triple digits. This dude's so dedicated. >> So consistent. >> Over 20. >> Is he good though? That's so crazy.
3:20 >> I don't know. I think he's good. But I know him. You know what I mean? Like I >> I like his reviews. I know. I know he's a good guy, so I like how he comes across cuz he's very like >> just a very decent human and just like a very like a like a he's like a righteous guy. Like that we went to Christian school together and he's a better example of what we all learned than I am. >> What do you feel like this guy got to do to kind of blow up a little bit or get more traction? You think? >> I don't know. >> Cuz that stuff is kind of hard, right? >> Collaborations. >> Watch Mojo. He should collaborate with Watch Mojo. >> Marketing. >> Yeah. I don't know what what it is. I don't really know that world at all. Making movie reviews and stuff. I mean, uh I I know that like it would probably help to uh I think he already does it though, just to do like short reviews for short form. Movie reviews in 1 minute or something. >> Yeah. Or just like um cuz I I know he
4:11 was like talking about certain movies, but he wasn't like giving the score in short form, but sometimes people just want to know the score like right away. >> What do you ranking? Give me the number. >> Yeah. I just want to know. So I I'm like that. I want to know what the what the percentage is on Rotten Tomatoes before I read about it. Yeah, for sure. >> Just want so I don't waste my time. >> Oh, you know who's incredible? >> Who's that? >> Justin Barbella Brigade's old photographer. Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Justin for sure. Hell yeah. He's really great. >> He's >> incredible. Um, but I don't know, maybe it's cuz he's too soft spoken or he doesn't network as much, but he I don't think he gets the gigs that he deserves. >> I was hanging out with him last week >> cuz he'll show me like like dude, like I'm like, "What's your like end goal?" They'll show me like, you know, people that have like, "Here's 30 G's. You set up the photo shoot for the day and they're in charge of the set or whatever, you know." >> Yeah. >> And I look at the pictures, I'm like, "What the ████
5:01 >> This guy could ████ like take photos drunk and it's 10 times better." >> Yeah. >> He was part of like the whole F1 media team. >> Wow. >> And there's a whole team of photographers, videographers, right? And then Justin always has that side camera, his own personal side camera that's not his work camera cuz I think it's similar to the one that you have. whatever settings he has on that, he just takes random BTS stuff, right? So, he always takes photos on both cameras. He took a bunch of the BTS photos on that camera. He sent it to the main organizer, too. That guy put it on the um on the PowerPoint and he was like, "We should all be taking photos like this." >> Oh ████ What a win. >> He's taking he's taking pictures. I mean, he's showing everyone's Justin's throwaway pictures. >> Wow. Oh, hell yeah. >> And then afterwards like got it. And
5:51 Justin's like, >> "It would be nice if I got promoted or like am I the head creat like I can do it." Like literally I can do it. I'm these are my throwaway pictures. >> But it just I'm like ████ that sucks. >> Yeah, >> he should ask. >> He should ask. >> Yeah, but I'm like cuz he's so good. So if you're in the Vegas area, hit him up. Um but he's so good. >> He said he was going to help us set up tech for JK already. >> Oh, cool. Yeah, he is. >> I talked about it because we're going to have new cameras this year. >> Our old uh Get Close set where we did Me and Jill's podcast. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He set the whole thing up. Like he's great. You couldn't even tell that we're in a like a a room in a house. Like he set it up really really well. >> Oh, nice. Yeah. >> Yeah. But he's really good photos and video. And I feel like he um And if you go back far enough,
6:41 >> you'll see his concept photos, >> his creative ████ Yeah. where there's like ████ people covered in ████ white paint like that crazy ████ you know? So, he's really really really good and I wish he got compensated for his skills. Like he could totally like be in charge of the cover of Vogue or high fashion any of that stuff. He's really really really good. >> He really could. Yeah, probably very easily too. >> It's probably coming his way then soon. >> I feel that way about our production team. Vibrancy. >> Vibrancy. >> Mhm. They >> They're pretty big though. >> I mean, they're busy. Yeah, >> busy is different from like getting the gigs maybe that you're like really capable of though, right? >> Oh, okay. Cuz same thing, right? Some people might get a contract or or a work opportunity that pays like pays. >> Yeah. And you're like, "Dude, you suck. What the hell?" >> Yeah. >> Or puts you in the right industry circle and then now you're just working with
7:31 the right whatever the next bigger project. >> And you also just don't know what you're capable of until you get like tested and put in that position, right? One of the greatest feelings when you're getting hired for something is somebody's just like, "Can you do this?" And you're like lying out of your teeth and you're like, "Absolutely." Because you're like, "I just got to do the job." And you somehow >> pull it out of your ass and you get it done. >> And then you're like, "Okay, now I can do this. Next time you go for it, you're better." >> It's like, >> I think that's just how any job or any industry works. And I feel like if they were just given even like bigger jobs, bigger productions, then they would be able to like, you know, stand up to the task. and bigger money. >> Yeah. How big is bigger money though? >> People be doing certain things for like a quarter million dollars. You know what I mean? On like larger productions and stuff. >> Yeah. >> And so like I think when a $50,000 gig comes in win. Absolute win. Everybody's
8:23 eating. Everybody's working. Everybody's on that job. But like sometimes those contracts come in, you're doing like a season of work for a client >> versus sometimes you do a single production that has that same budget. like sick if more of those productions came into play. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> like if you're doing like like a Comedy Central roast, it's like one day. >> Yeah. >> But that's a lot of money versus like doing an entire like summer. >> Mhm. >> And then there's people that aren't even that good and they have so many of those gigs lined up. They actually have a waiting list. >> Yeah. >> And you're like, damn, that's crazy. You're just like your your business side like outshines your creative side. M >> and and it feels like sad to see, you know, cuz you're like, damn, this guy's so good creatively. But then it also makes sense. >> It is it is majority business though. >> Majority majority. >> Yeah. And to be fair, I would rather always be in that pool where somebody's
9:13 looking at me like, damn, their business is better than the creative. But I'm like, that's why I'm here, ████ >> Yeah. >> Versus like, man, I'm so creative. I hope I get booked. >> Yeah. >> I feel like that that >> But I fall in line more in line with that the other side. What? Being uh creative? >> No, I suck at business. I'm probably way more creative than I am at business. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> No, for dancers. >> Oh, what? >> Like for dancers when we're talking about that stuff is uh dancers got to I I believe dancers should be more looking and pushing towards the business side instead of always trying to be creative with everything. >> I feel like that's the hard thing though, right? >> This is the hardest part. >> Hardest part is actually be competent in the business side. >> I believe all dancers >> more discipline. think >> to get a dance degree, you need to go through business degree first. >> Oh, damn. >> And then you go get your ████ dance
10:04 degree. >> Well, that's only if you want to be successful in your career versus just making good art. >> Yeah. Plus, it's it's all about where you want to do your your craft, too. Cuz like if some people just want to be a soldier, and then other people want to command like an entire army. >> And they should they should take a class on don't bang your students class, too, right? >> They should. >> What the heck? >> Just start naming them. >> Yeah. I hear first.
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