0:00 I'm out of the whole music scene do people like Drake people consider them probably the best rapper of all time right now he's also in an era that where like a bunch of rappers aren't like like once you hit the top you don't get shot you know what I mean so he's like okay he's like so he's better than mace and he's also [Music] ironically even though we're bringing this up I I feel like it's um I don't know maybe I we've been talking about it for so long and I feel like now that it's happened for some reason it didn't seem as cool as it was going to be but there was this fight that Tommy Fury fought Jake Paul oh yeah I feel like we should talk about this he finally lost right he did he did lose he blamed Drake and I that makes sense I'll tell you what I didn't watch the fight and I I was one of those guys that was like um
0:50 okay this is his first real boxer he's gonna fight he's gonna be tested and um after he lost I actually like him more because of what he said so what he said was he's like he he didn't have like some like um poor sport excuse or anything like that he goes you know what he out uh boxed me that night I took it on the chin and he goes Don't Judge Me by my wins judge me about my losses and see what happens and I'm like I I actually really liked the way like he he portrayed himself after because I thought you know with this like douchebag image you would think oh ████ oh ████ Island ref and then this and the ████ slippery ████ ground and like all kinds of ████ he just kind of took it like a man and I'm like like an actual regular fighter yeah I'm like I'm excited to see what he come if he comes back from it but you say he blamed Drake after because Drake bet on him and there's a drake wedding curse that's funny is he bet on Izzy right or dude Drake is like
1:42 oh for five for all the on big bills yeah yeah if he bets on you you're losing I bet he didn't bet on the Chiefs huh he bet on like Jorge massive at all he bet on like oh just just all these people that have like Izzy the fact that glass on the fifth round like that and his last title fight yeah pretty when he was winning yeah when he was winning he was winning yeah I'm out of the whole music scene do people like Drake I think so yeah yeah I think a lot of people like Drake yeah yeah okay people do you like people consider him people consider him probably the best rapper of all time right now what yeah I know isn't that crazy he passed uh didn't he like win the top like sales I think in terms of lyricism sales like Artistry what he's been in how long he's been able to dominate longevity yeah multiple decades he's so relevant he's also in an era though where like a
2:32 bunch of rappers aren't like like once you hit the top you don't get shot you know what I mean so he's like okay he's like so he's better than mace and he's also hey no he's not better than me I like me you also got to think about like the the um the distribution era too right like it's like the fact that he's alive during a time where we have things like Spotify so when you're talking about platinum or record sales the the numbers are completely different right it's like how um what was it I think it was the post Malone Swae Lee uh Spider-Man song oh yeah yeah that one went like 15 platinum or something like that and that's like sweetly jumping on the track and it's like now now you you can like out of nowhere because of some uh like you know which rightfully so too like well deserved in a different way but like just through like anomalies or viral Sensations you can be like the number one charter of all time musically just
3:23 because the distribution methods are way crazy but at the same time he's for the culture like he goes to all the battle rap ████ things like he's like he's about like bars and ████ like he's not just he also collabs with all these up-and-comer rappers that nobody's ever heard of and he kind of puts them on you know so I think a lot of people putting on all these UK guys that's what I mean those guys one two plus three yeah yeah that African that African UK stop is pretty dope you put them on because they're just they're just their own little subculture with no mainstream shine so you he put them on to the world in in America and all that yeah yeah oh damn that one song where he goes how can I be homophobic my ████ is gay love it love it and it makes it better because he has a UK accent for sure you know what I mean you actually makes it really cool and guys in rap songs they can get away with saying crazy ████ that
4:14 no one else could ever get away with have you listed on any actual short stuff recently oh dude he's talking about how like uh he's like his homie's sister is like 15 and he can't resist and I'm like bro what it's correct I'm like man somebody's letters are crazy yeah Too Short's always been nuts though it's a major pass yeah you can't get rid of these guys but anyways back to the Jake Paul fight did anybody watch it highlights I just watched the one highlight of him dropping Tommy yeah did you watch it I watched a couple Clips uh but you didn't actually pay-per-view it right no I couldn't find a good stream either in a legal stream I couldn't find it um but I do think from the exchanges that I saw Tommy Fury did land the bigger punches the boar punch combinations I think he had more control of the fight overall but it's not like Jake Paul is like he's
5:06 no Buster how does he feel though barely beating a YouTuber if you're a boxer and you're barely but I think I think you can make the argument that even though like Tommy Fury is a boxer I think boxers in the game couldn't really look at Tommy Fury as a boxer he's a love Island guy you know what I mean why is that well cause like yeah he's part of the prestigious Fury family but his brother is like one of the goats of the heavyweights of course he's he's the goat right now but as far as he's probably seen more as a reality star and a personality and if he's had boxing fights but a lot of people say like dude you haven't fought anybody but it's also part of the culture of boxing where when you're coming up they kind of want you to fight lower level Fighters right that's just the culture of it anyway so there's a
5:56 lot of criticism there he's definitely a boxer but I think in a lot of people's eyes he's like he's not a real body he's not the boxer yeah and I think for him Jake Paul is legit he's putting his work man yeah bro he's legit you can't you can't deny this like how much more can he really do relative to that conversation and and I'm asking as a non-fighter so I really wanted to ask as well as me we're just fancier I'm a professional boxer tell me ask me anything like for example um when you're talking about like patent uh like where where is like Brandon Lee right now because I feel like you know we we see him he's been on the show he's like super undefeated and and I feel like the the kind of common conversation when we're always talking about his fights and stuff obviously he's dope he's dominating but it's always like he's fighting somebody that's lesser skilled not always he drunk got dropped in his last fight yeah but I think that's just part of the nature of fighting right it's like no matter what like is there
6:46 is it when you talk about padding fights is there like a moment where it's like okay time to like when is that moment I don't think so from what I understand of the boxing world there's a couple of routes that people take and I think this is kind of like the um like the magic of boxing if you will where there's a lot of different routes that you can go so like UFC has like a way more and I think the reason why UFC has grown so big it has a very like scalable and forecastable trajectory you get into MMA Jam you do whatever and then you like you have these agencies they'll put you on boxing right now it's like half fighting and half entertainment so it depends on the route that you want to go so if you go the entertainment route you have Jake Paul you have all the like The Gamers all the streamers and whatever and those guys are making more money than a lot of these like legit Fighters I think Brandon comes from the pedigree of actual fighting so previous to even
7:39 his like 20 something and oh record he's already had like 200 fights since he was like ████ 10 or something so he's a tradition like he would be in the same route as the guys that won Golden Gloves Olympics like he's in the traditional traditional boxing realm so I don't think any of his fights have been padded the other ones though literally like let's say if you have a fight in Mexico they'll go like hey cab driver I'll pay you 300 bucks you're down to just you weigh their weight the same way and they'll do that so some of those guys can camp drivers yeah literally you look them up and they're like what the ████ I've never even seen this guy this guy has a o and O record and they'll and they'll put four or five of those guys in front of you to go hit my fighter right here is 10-0 but the 10 Cal Drive that's the culture in boxing that's the culture in MMA as well like everyone cab drivers fight MMA very well let me tell you bro we got some wild stories well we
8:30 like when you first go from amateur to Pro a lot of the times it's like you go to these like really low level like promotions where you're fighting at a restaurant or like with a Elks Club an Acapulco a Ukrainian Cultural Center probably I've seen ████ like that or Indian reservations right so for instance like one of our first uh guys who made the jump from this is an MMA he fought from uh he was going from amateur to Pro his first fight Pro we fought in Soboba Casino and it wasn't because you know at all it was like the it was like the saboba and the suburb was like a Indian reservation and like past Riverside like past Hemet it's not a cool drink no I wish I wish it's a Soviet Union yeah but it's like it's especially when
9:20 you're first coming into the scene and this is just like kind of standard practice it's like you you fight someone who's a kind of a low level Pro or it's just your first jump and a lot of the times you just never know what's gonna happen so for instance for this guy he was gonna fight Pro the fighter pulled out like the date like the day of the fight mostly I couldn't find anybody right and we're at an Indian casino we're warming up in like a recreational center in the bathroom like that's where we're warming up this guy's taking a ████ and I'm holding pads for somebody it's ridiculous you know that guy's pissed too can you stop I'm trying to concentrate yeah it's crazy like it smells like ████ and then we're taping his hands get in the zone you know put the Vaseline on his eyes but it smells like ████ and then and then like like literally 20 minutes before the fight and because the reason why they fight on the Indian reservation is because we don't necessarily meet
10:11 yeah there's no rules it's we don't need an athletic commission to make sure everything is like good to go athletic commission by the state it's a state-run government thing they come by they make sure they have the doctors they have the judges they have the referees everyone is trained to make sure that this is okay and legal to go on an inner reservation you don't need anything it's a dude with latex gloves just standing there like the fight start the fight starts a guy from Rite Aid comes in with like I mean one of the refs comes in with a Rite Aid bag just filled with Vaseline like gloves just like random ████ that's like okay this is crazy uh anyway so you could put a roll of quarters in your glove you kind of could nobody would know nobody would really know anyway so the guy pulls out 20 minutes before the fight so we're like we need an opponent he's gonna
11:01 fight in like an hour or so so we're asking around they're going to the crowd hey you guys want to fight for like 200 bucks hey you want to fight for 200 bucks you know what's here yes they go to a cornerman a quarterman is pretty much my role in this in this situation where he's a he's going to coach one of his buddies who's going to fight they go hey man you want to fight he's like hell yeah I'm down this guy fights in cargo shorts which isn't if this is athletic State commission this is not legal this ████ comes out and he's a fighter himself but he wasn't training for for a fight he just was like yeah yeah I'm down so we fight this guy my buddy fights this guy he beats him up but it's like such a wild ████ thing because 20 minutes ago he was like I'm not was that guy Eddie good I'm sure he was I'm sure he was pretty good but like he's not like
11:52 he just wasn't at that level like I'm sure he was good but just not on that night I just imagined it the cook coming out like I'll ████ do it the waiter is like all right killed my apron every time we go to this promotion it's like the wildest ████ we see one time we were walking out and there's a stable of Fighters that fight for this promotion that live in Soboba that area and they just get hired to fight Pros when fights fall out like this they just need to step in yeah and they're not really Fighters they're not really like they're fighting they're like substitute teachers like yeah dude are they Native Americans no I don't think so no we didn't really see anybody maybe some of them had native blood but I don't know I don't think that's the part of I think fight the fight game that people don't understand at the end of the day it's an entertain payment event so The Show Must Go On so having people actually fill the
12:42 shoes is actually more important than having a legitimate fight but that's also why I think Brandon like people would be like oh how come he doesn't jump on these like uh big card fights I don't think he wants to I think he's trying to build his legacy so all his fights if you see they're under Showtime yeah yeah I have seen yeah they're like one of the most legit like boxing like they're probably the biggest boxing promotion right now yeah so for him I think he's like I don't traditional Legacy Fighting yeah I don't want to be that I want to like work my way up in this realm and then maybe later on have it pay off in a certain way whereas like Jake Paul and stuff I think they're just trying to do the fast track so they're like doubling down on the more entertainment aspect and I think for him too he's fighting legit boxers but it's getting to a point now where it's like okay he's probably looking for the next big fighter that's equal to where they're at in their career that also has a name so then they can find each other and build each other's name up as they go on like I'm sure Brandon Lee's gonna
13:33 fight some big names soon like it's just a matter of just getting two people to agree to fight that's the hardest part because everyone's got something to lose now you know so Brandon Lee might be looking for big names but these guys don't want to find Brandon Lee because it's a big risk so they'd rather fight maybe somebody else so it's like there's a lot of politics in there too so it is that just basically like your manager that like does all those negotiations it's your manager it's the promotion an unboxing but it's not necessarily like there's like a records book that like it's like oh now it's time you know yeah no it's not really anything could happen that's why I think the UFC although they get a lot of hate they're one of the most organized in terms of matchmaking that's that's not the part of it that that it's called like one of my friends Steffy she just had a fight in Montebello or something oh yeah I saw that yeah she was supposed to and that person just dropped out didn't want to fight pretty much show up yeah because it happens a lot really they just fail yeah it
14:24 happens a lot what's wrong with this generation not coming to their job interviews yeah yeah I don't know dude it happens a lot you're not out of touch I am when you first brought up Brandon Lee like what you know what about Brandon Lee and my mom going dude he died bro hahaha [Music]
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