0:00 So now that two of you guys have already had kids, Bart and Bow Nos, >> You got one on the way. >> You got one on the way as well, just much more distance. >> Still in the balls, but it's coming. It's coming out. It's coming out soon. Coming out to a theater near you. >> It's still got to come out of you first. Is there like a way that you can Do you feel like you could have been genuinely happy in your life if you never had kids? >> Uh what do you mean? Like knowing what it feels >> Now that you know what it feels like, yeah. Do you could you have seen yourself as Bart Kwan, guy who never had kids, and still live a fulfilling life all the way to the end? >> No, I don't think so. How do you feel about that? >> Heck no. No way. >> It's one of those where like if you
0:50 haven't experienced it, you're not going to know what you're missing out on. But if you experienced it, it's like um then you know there's like cuz like after you have a kid, it's not only just the act of having a kid, you grow so much as a person and evolve, and their kid teaches you so much. And there's like this crazy like I don't know dynamic change >> Mhm. >> that it'll feel way emptier had you not had a kid. >> cuz right now I'm kind of going through that in with myself where I I used to be very like it doesn't matter if we have kids or not. I don't really care. I think like that's a great bonus if we were to have kids. That's great. Like I've always felt like that my whole life up until this year. And now I'm like now that I you know it
1:40 it gotten very real. Like there's a kid on the way. There's a a new human that we're making. >> Do you feel the tummy moving and stuff or no? >> No. My tummy? Smack, come here. Come here. Come here. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it feels very real. But now that like that it's kind that feeling's kind of setting in. It feels like oh, this is a very to me, okay, I don't I don't mean to pressure anyone, but it feels like almost like a required and necessary development in human existence. It's like I like I it's so deep into me now that I'm like if I didn't do this, it's like living life up to a point and never knowing anything else. Like, you know what I mean? >> It's Jordan Peterson saying like you're still a child until you have a kid. >> Yeah. >> Because your whole life you're living for yourself >> Right. >> until you have to live for someone else, then you finally experience like the
2:31 next chapter. >> Yeah, I just now I can't even imagine that I ever even felt like maybe I won't have a kid. I can't even imagine that now. And I My kids aren't even born yet. >> Yeah. >> I think that it's possible to reach happiness without having kids. It's just that there's this untapped potential of this other side of happiness when you do have kids. >> Yeah. >> So, I don't think you're you're I don't think people who don't have kids are unhappy or >> You just have to require so much. So, like the amount of happiness I have with my kid, to reach that without having a kid, I would need like 100 prostitutes a day. Then I think it would be like equal. >> You shouldn't put prostitutes and your kid on the same level. >> Yeah, seriously. >> 1,000 prostitutes and then >> Joe's trying to talk sense into you. >> No, and then uh I have free Bacchanal
3:22 vouchers. >> Yeah. >> A buffet is more better. >> So, Bacchanal vouchers and then business class everywhere I go, even from Vegas to LA I have business class, and then prostitutes. >> Still putting >> And then and then Ferrari sponsorship. >> Okay. >> That's pretty >> And then and then I think that's then it's like >> That's what that's what Tyga is worth. >> You know Okay, here's here's a good way to illustrate it. A really good example is do you remember when you were like still kind of like a girl-hating boy that you were like, "Ew, girls." And then uh >> Bart doesn't remember that. Look at him. >> Like, what do you mean girl hater? >> Like, when you were like, "I just want to hang with the boys. I don't want any girls around. Girls are Girls are stupid. They're gross. I just want to do guy stuff, play games, right?" And then the day that you finally like a girl or you start dating, you're like, "How could I have imagined never having girls
4:13 in my life?" >> Yeah, where where it was like a boys only club, yeah. >> You If you had avoided girls for the rest of your life, you might have been happy with all your toys and your boy stuff and your guy ████ You might have But then it's like you said, if you never knew But then now that you do, there's absolutely no way you could just be a solo guy your whole life, never interacting with women. That's how I feel like now that this kid's on the way, I'm like, "How did I ever ever ever think like, "Meh, meh, kids are not, meh." >> I don't think everyone's meant to be a parent though. >> Oh, yeah, for sure. Especially some of these freaks. >> there's there's so many people that um that you see like, "Oh, ████ my kids, man. I ████ don't want." And then they like bounce and ████ and like So then I I But I hear from most people around me, they're like, "Oh, there's nothing like it. It's so amazing to have kids. It's like it's tough, but it's so worth it." You know, I hear that a lot.
5:04 And you have like dudes like my dad that's just like, "Oh, ████ I don't know what to do anymore." >> Yeah. >> But I actually don't think that he did not like us. >> Right. >> I just think it was too much for him. >> Oh. >> So like some guys are weak. They can't handle the responsibilities of doing everything, so they run, right? But it's not necessarily like ████ these kids. Yeah. It's like, "I love these kids, but like It's like, ████ these bills." Or whatever, like, you know, like Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, it's more about everything that came with it, with parenting. >> But there are ████ up people though. Like you see like even like cuz you would um assume that women would never say that ████ cuz they're supposed to be the mom that loves her kid no matter what. But, you hear it all the time. They're like, "I wish they weren't here.
5:55 I'd be a ████ hoe still. I still go clubbing and ████ They robbed me of my childhood. I have ████ dreams." >> you're talking about the moms that leave their baby in the car to go in the club. >> Oh. >> We we've seen so many articles throughout time and we're like, "Whoa, yeah, there's a lot where that it came too soon for them." >> What happened to their brains and experience to where they feel like, "F███, man. They ████ took this youth from me, man. My ████ best" >> You think that's just unfulfillment. That's like if they just never did the things that they wanted to do and then a kid kind of came first and now you just can't live for yourself in that same way, right? >> Or maybe like that's life giving them a lesson and instead of stepping up to the plate to evolve and change become the person they are, they're just bitter and still stuck in the past. >> Like they're blaming the kids that they never ████ wrote that book they they wanted to write or they never like
6:45 became a singer or whatever. >> Cuz yeah, before I would think like, yeah, not everyone's meant to be a kid, right? So, you think like Mufasa is meant to be a dad. Scar seems like he'd be a horrible father, right? >> He was in Lion King 2. >> But, at the same time, I can see Scar having a kid and changing and becoming the best father if he stepped up and used that opportunity to >> Is that what happened in Lion King 2? >> No, no. He He He died off screen, but yeah. >> Yeah, wait. Yeah, he's already dead by Lion King 2. >> Well, you know what broke my heart is that um I was watching this uh during the time I was studying psychology. Like I I really got into like serial killers and things like that. So, there was an interview of a guy who was uh a hitman for the mafia. And he goes, "Well, it was my passion." He goes, "I
7:35 love the work. Like I love I love killing. Like I did it for fun." And then he's openly talking, super calm, right? And he goes, "I could kill everybody. I could kill my my wife, right?" And then >> What the heck? >> And then so like crazy crazy, right? And then they go, "Would you ever" the interview goes, "Would you ever kill your children?" They're like, "No, never." And then so he he got so passionately angry. Like he went from calm to like never, not even in a million years. I will kill for them. And then like so I'm like, "Okay, even this absolute psychopath loves his children >> Okay, yeah. >> to death. And he will never He would kill the world but never his own children. He would kill his own wife but never his own children. That's when I was like, "Whoa, there are some people that are like maybe shouldn't be parents but that love they have for their child
8:26 is crazy for some people." Yeah. >> But not for the wife who was half of those kids. >> No, he's a he's a nutcase. Yeah, he's like, "I'll kill my wife for my kids." >> Yeah. >> But then you have those other guys that just wiped their whole families out and themselves over some over some dumb ████ Like cuz they want to have an affair. >> in Ohio. >> Yeah, it happens more often than people think. It's crazy. That's why it's weird for me cuz the experience sounds like so intense and profound for like so many people where they're like, "There's nothing like it. I love my children. I'll burn the world down for them, right?" And then you have the opposite where people are just like "Whoops, was there a child there? I don't know. I don't care." "Whoops, was there a child?" That's why I think that you know like you know the idea of like when you have a kid if if you if you're pretty right with yourself by that point, you're not going to have
9:16 those feelings of like I didn't get to do this, I didn't get to achieve that, I didn't get to travel the world and stuff. That's why I feel like bro like you'll probably be very similar to me where when you like get that news and that sonogram and like ultrasound, you're going to be you're going to feel like an a whole chapter got unlocked in life that you previously were never going to access and you're like, "Oh, that's life." You're like it's like a The whole time you just been like, "What have I been doing this whole time?" You know what I mean? >> I think it unlocks when you embrace the idea of parent. >> That's the biggest thing is embracing. There's so many people I think they're like resistant to it and still they're still trying to make like two worlds work. But you have to just go like you know, like the point where like Spider-Man's like, "I'm Spider-Man now." Versus like, "I'm a Peter Parker or Spider-Man. I still want to be a teenager and I save the world." It's like that, right? It's like you got to
10:06 embrace like ████ it. Like my dreams don't ████ matter. I'm the parent. I think when you embrace it then I also feel like anything that ever happened in your life, your your wins and your losses, your ups and your downs have 10 times more meaning cuz you're like, "Okay, that one time I was ████ embarrassed at my recital. That's the reason why that happened because now I can help this kid go through embarrassment, you know?" Or else before you have a lot of like questionable things that you're like, "Yeah, like why the ████ did that happen? Or why did this happen?" Or whatever. And then now you're like You get full circle. Yeah, you're like, "I see why all that happened." >> why parenthood helps you grow so much is because you have to think so introspectively about yourself so that you can pass on things or make sure that you raise your kid the way you want. So I think that's why it it just pushes you to grow no matter what. >> That's why I think you're in a good spot to have a kid cuz you don't live with a
10:57 desperation to like do You know what I mean? You've done so much ████ already. >> But I always wanted kids. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> I I just was very cautious about like bringing them into the world with me. >> Oh, yeah. >> So it's it's more like um like I I I was like if I was like a teenager having sex and ████ and I was like, "Yeah, if I get a girl pregnant, ████ it. That'll be awesome. I ████ love kids, right?" >> I would not recommend gangster Joe having kids. >> Exactly. So I knew like I knew what I was. I knew where I was. But so so at the time I was actually more like, "Well, if I get a girl pregnant, like I would actually want her to uh an abortion." And then I was thinking about like what it's because personally I actually really want to have kids, but I know that I would probably give this kid the worst ████ life. So then in my mind I was like, I'm not I
11:47 can't step up. I know I'm going to fail. So I don't want to create an extra kid that's going to jail and like being a threat to society. >> Right. >> And then like it was always something like as I got older I was like it's almost like oh well I have anger problems and I don't want to do that to my kid so ████ And then and then next is like well I'm a I don't have enough money so I don't think I have enough money to provide the best I don't want to like raise them poor and ████ like that. So it was always this excuse but I think I've never had this feeling of like nah I don't think I'm going to do kids or whatever. It was like >> Just not right now. >> I just hope I don't get anybody pregnant cuz I'm going to ████ this up. That's that's what my mind was always >> Should have just stopped having sex. >> But it's so good though. Blow game so good though. But did you did you actually feel like you didn't want kids at one point cuz I
12:37 ████ I want 20 children bro. I just don't want to take care of them. >> Hannah get ready. >> Five years ago I didn't want kids. >> Wow. >> Five years ago because I thought I was I was like dude I I suck. I shouldn't have kids. >> A lot changes in that >> That's yeah that's just and like my life is too crazy. I got this going on. >> I don't know what I'm >> But that means you wanted kids but you're you weren't ready for it. Right? >> that's what I'm saying. >> so same then cuz I'm like I love kids. I just knew that I would ████ it up. >> Yeah me too. That's the thing. I just I didn't trust myself. >> Yeah yeah yeah. >> And then you know like after some time I'm like oh actually yeah it feels like a good time. >> And that's what I didn't understand too of like when people go oh because of you I couldn't be a ████ superstar. >> Because of you I couldn't >> Like there's so many people that work harder after they get kids. Like all the stories of like it ████ made me mature now I have to be a ████ superstar. And I'm like damn that's crazy.
13:27 >> Jordy of like the previous generation had kids when they were you know chasing their dreams and fulfilling them. Yeah. I think people respond to pressure differently. Sometimes it crumbles some and sometimes it makes people rise. >> Mhm. >> I don't handle pressure well. >> So did you wait until like you felt like you were ready to have kids to have kids type of thing? >> Yeah. >> So you kind of knew, okay, in this phase of my life, not ready. This phase, not ready. >> Yeah. >> Okay, it's coming up. I think I'm going to be ready. >> I really remember like just waking up and being like, I think I'm ready. I'm ready. >> I think I'm pregnant. Cuz have you ever heard when people go like, you're you'll never be ready? >> Someone saying that to me? >> Yeah, people people >> Oh, there's no like actual >> I've heard that multiple times. Well, when they say that, I think they're saying your mindset will never be ready, but your circumstance could be ready. But you'll your mindset will never be ready because you're you're never
14:17 experienced anything like it before. >> I see. I see. Yeah. >> Yeah. Like you could have all the money in the world, all the nannies, all the family, everything. You could be double quadruple retired and you're like, I'm going to give 24 hours a day to the baby. Once the baby comes, you're not going to be ready. You could be a ████ Navy SEAL astronaut, it doesn't matter. You're not going to be ready. >> Yeah. >> Cuz it's the for the first time there's something that's without your involvement, it can die the next hour, next minute. So you'll no matter what, you'll never be ready. Um but that's more of the mindset, not so much the circumstance. >> I would have been ready 20 years ago with $5 million in my bank account and anger management classes. That's when I would I would have been ready. >> And that's the goal. >> I should have done that. I would have had 20 kids by now. >> Damn, dude. >> One every year. From 20 years old. >> One one every 9 and 1/2 months. >> Dude.
15:07 >> I think you'd be a good dad. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Yeah. Yeah, you will. >> I think you'd be hella hype. >> Because I won't beat dad in >> You won't be what? >> What is that?
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