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Alec Baldwin to be Charged with InvoluntaryManslaughter in 'Rust' Case

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0:00 imagine if all right you cut this cost it's gonna be real lab I won't set I'm not causing the bfx and I like how that if you don't pay me I'm wearing the dynamite vest [Music] all right so we've already talked about this topic before on this show but there has been an update oh wee-wee Alec Baldwin it's looking like he's going to be charged with involuntary manslaughter in the rust shooting death I actually like this what does that look like I don't know I don't know how to make sense of it I don't know any what that means like what jail time or whatever because that that part makes me sad 18 months and like five thousand dollars for one option and another one is five I think five years yeah something like that I like it because he did actually

0:50 kill someone and it almost seemed like oh big Hollywood guy got away with it or like oh like there's no gun that's going to shoot itself or anything like that and then it almost felt like he they paid like the husband hush money like I'm actually happy my wife died like there's that one interview where he like was like what the ████ did how much did they pay you to say ████ like that so I feel like this is actually good where you even if you're huge you can't just get away with ████ did that really happen yeah there's an interview where he says that I mean he didn't say like that but that's what you're saying with his face yeah his face was like why are we talking about that no no his face was more like yeah so I guess um is coming down I guess I'm a producer on the movie now like that like I get producer credit though but you're just like that's a lot of ████ ████ things under the table going around dang that's how I read it

1:40 at least I don't know maybe Alec Baldwin on that movie was also a producer right yeah so he's actually being charged with both an actor and a producer on the movie um the district attorney says that he pulled the trigger at the actor and he had a duty to make sure the set was safe as if that's the thing I think a lot of people don't understand like a lot of angry people that are commenting like he didn't do it he's given the gun it's like dude as a producer you have a responsibility too and also a gun's not gonna fire unless you pull the trigger and what about the not the gun so she also we have to say that but yeah so prosecutors in Santa Fe county made the announcement Thursday morning that Baldwin will be charged with involuntary manslaughter and the film's head armorer Hannah Gutierrez was also charged accountable yeah she's also charged with involuntary manslaughter water both face a maximum of five years in prison if convicted I just don't know how they can

2:31 put a bullet inside because it's clearly a from a blank to like a like it's just I don't know how you could just be like loading it up and then being like well it's like her fault for not managing the weapons properly and then she hands it to the guy who says okay this is a cold gun yeah and then gives it to him um and then he's like okay well it's a cold gun and he has his finger could have slipped yeah regardless like you're never gonna put your they train you to not put your fingers on the trigger it's called Trigger Discipline and on top of that you're never supposed to point it directly at the soul of someone everybody did their job correctly or if just one person did their job correctly the situation wouldn't happen that's all three ████ and it's because but at the end of the day it does go up to the producer who's supposed to keep in line with every single it's your project yeah right yeah

3:22 the D.A says Alec definitely pulled the trigger despite what he says because she trusts the FBI's analysis and she says one of the reasons the investigation took so long was because prosecutors were waiting to see what the FBI concluded about the government he's saying he didn't pull that part that's weird he's like it just went off yeah it went back Alex uh Alex attorney released a statement saying this decision distorts Helena Hutchins tragic death and represents a terrible miscarriage of Justice Mr Baldwin had no reason to believe there was a live bullet in the gun or anywhere on the movie Set he relied on the professionals with whom he worked who assured him the gun did not have live rounds we will fight these charges and we will win ████ because there's multiple other instances because I know people who were on that set that things went wrong even in that department this is just the main thing that's being what are other like examples but they've been so so but then

4:13 personal clothes from the rumors that you've heard allegedly you can get you can get from the rumors that you heard they've been incompetent in many different things and there was live ammunition and they were firing stuff why because for fun they're just like maybe baby all right so they're just mixing the volume and they were just there's no um real allegedly there's no real regulation between that so they're just in the back ████ shooting bottles and they're like all right time to shoot and then let's switch the ████ gun which gun's witch they wanted to cut ████ gun is a gun is a gun like a 20 difference or something like this allegedly between the armorers and so that's why they brought her on what he does it was like something stupid like Barry might do like 20 per hour or something like that yeah something like that um and so because they wanted to cut

5:03 coffee it adds up imagine if all right you cut this cost there's gonna be real lab I won't set [Laughter] if you don't pay me I'm wearing the dynamite vest it's like extortion for an extra 20 bucks I'll get rid of all the ammo pretty much the logic of these people this is like such a textbook thing of like hey if these things aren't in place and these things don't happen here's the

5:54 result it's so plain textbook like that's the one to follow the rules yeah the assistant director Dave Halls has agreed to a plea deal for the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon he will get a suspended sentence in six months of probation and then no charge no charges will be filed in connection with the non-fatal shooting of director Joel Souza who was hit in the shoulder by the same bullet that killed Alina oh ████ damn it hurt someone else too that's so same bullet damn were they like standing behind each like that and just went through no definitely standing a 90 degree angle to the side it got ricocheted the same logic you might want to claim that one same Naked Gun logic fire at 90 degree angles what is this assault yeah

6:46 that's what it is but it's just a 90 degree balance yeah Alec Baldwin does know how to curve bullets do this might be a dumb question but I'm asking anyway do blanks and regular bullets look the same or do they look cool there's a there's a jacket yeah even the box is completely different don't get mad at me I didn't know okay leave it on set you're not even supposed to have blanks yeah or that's about the real real ones live oh the library yeah you're not supposed to have live rounds on stuff you want to just have them just hanging around just in case there are some sets that don't even allow blanks oh really like they do it in V like special effects or whatever that's why that's why there's no recoil in some movies where the guy's shooting and the gun's perfectly still yeah and they have to you just see muzzle flash yeah and he's just like yeah just a little like I feel like John

7:37 Wicks especially the amount at which he's like rolling around just popping foals in the forehead and stuff like that like I'm guessing that's not even blinks that's just like CG because they're right up on his ████ crop gun that when you push the trigger it just shakes so it looks like it's I mean airsoft guns do that nowadays yeah the blowback ones you got to do that because ████ time crisis in the arcade can do that yeah it can do that it like goes like this it does time cries that was one of my ████ favorite guns because you know you'd always pick up the ████ plastic one it's connected to this like 18 foot chain and then if it doesn't have recoil you're like man this game is ████ fake when you pick up time cries and that's just like the property see they didn't have budget for Time Crisis guns because they cut costs yeah we only have budget for real guns dang it I will take it I still like the explosion guys

8:31 I'll turn the timer on that guy just gets hired for every ████ movie for summer Dynamite drone activator for this it's the SAG scale Dynamite best or everyone's okay you got to pay that twenty dollars extra yeah twenty dollars that's the difference between whether this set has land mines the more you pay the less booby traps all right that's five dollars for the tripwire twenty dollars for the landmines you got actors being like man this is my dream job but like this might be my only job there's all these landmines it's just straight up booby trap I know 10 bucks or this doorknob's gonna be

9:21 burning hot movie studios hate this guy one simple trick is Mr saw like what's going on dude that's why there's no student films of warm War films yeah that's true we couldn't afford it everyone just died um so yeah to to what bar was saying earlier it does say that Helena's widower Matthew Hutchins settled with Baldwin and the production and actually became an executive producer on the film well he settled so fast yeah he gave a producer credits like that's it that's why the video is so weird because you see him like smiling and he's like crying and he's like this is what I wanted does he get anything else like out besides also like if you get producer credits when you weren't even a producer it doesn't even count people know that you just got it just because of the situation so it's like that that holds no value unless your next film is a documentary about that moment oh yeah

10:13 that's a credit to do that is it is that just so he gets points for the residuals oh maybe as an EP maybe maybe there's something he's gonna get money off of it he should make a YouTube video my wife died and I got producer credits what happens at the when they show this movie what happens at the point point where the scene comes up where he gets where she actually gets shot will they even show this movie yeah they're not gonna release it aren't they I think it's gonna do well because everyone's got to watch it dude I want to see this movie this is definitely the best Market are they gonna break the fourth wall at that moment and he just goes you guys know what happens next that'd be crazy but I want to see the movie now because I'm like this movie better be ████ good it's probably not it's probably now what's gonna happen in Hollywood is all the actors have to make the bang noise while they shoot

11:03 the bang Flags I think that's what's funny is that even you know with this thing happening there's hella rappers from music videos real guns going how the hell do you make mistake like that they have real loaded guns with the finger on the trigger real loaded guns on the set of so many rap music videos they're all like they're so irresponsible Alec Baldwin we have live guns and we don't shoot each other exactly true we got live guns with extended mags or any lanes is like a ████ idiot [Laughter] that Toy's like at least I got her in the foot yeah dude I was making her dance

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