0:00 [Music] this is a interesting discussion especially because we are all men but I know that we have such diverse opinions and we don't speak for yourself white guys bro did you see that he said you have some diverse opinions what are you talking about looking we have a hi mentality we don't have hi mentality that the fans complain about I'll say whatever you guys will say oh the fans think yall hi I'll go anti I'll argue all for why do you think I looked at you I get your ass all right you probably have dumb opinions I'll fire y'all the only reason why people are allowed to be the only reason why people are allowed to be liberal is because they're around white guys if you try to do that ████ around non-white guys you get ████ up yeah you got beat up oh ████ you guys going to beat me up nah dude after I work out
0:51 a bunch bro hey there's there's a check behind it all box yeah liberalism only exists in Western Nations cuz there's freedom of spee speech and they can challenge whatever right but you do you try that ████ in ████ Asia or South a I mean South America or anywhere you get ████ up true I like how that first part of that sentence I was like okay I'm like watching Ben Shapiro and I was like okay now it's JK and that means welcome back to another exciting episode of off the Record where we're still going to Applause for silent Mike over here even though he's going to be the anti so the appla is going to be short this time it's like my first day in kindergarten here's the question okay cuz this has been a viral video that's been going around this dude's interviewing like women on the streets of Japan and he's wondering if paying for sex counts as cheating did you see
1:42 my comment in here oh I've been commenting in these videos oh no I didn't see you didn't see Joe's comment no I didn't specif T of can you scroll down it's okay it's okay um so yeah have a picture of Joe's comment yeah yeah yeah sure sure Ryan can you pull it up all right so he interviews these women and a lot of these women are saying that it doesn't count as cheating so are we talking about the uh transaction or we talking about the whole ordeal like the ████ so the basic question of does paying for sex count as cheating yeah over there they think that if you pay for sex because it's just probably now just considered masturbation but with the human body you know there's no emotional investment they don't think that that's cheating that's what these particular women said and it's obviously is it common over there actually started with him asking guys and then the guys
2:34 most of them were like nah it's not cheating some of some of the guys were like well it is cheating if like that's not the agreement between you two which is more the sensible one and then some guys were like nah that's not cheating right and then all the comments were like ask the girls then ask the girls and then the girls were like nah it's not cheating is prostitution or whatever pain sex also common there's a lot of cultural like context that is missing here and I've been ████ going in the com comments to explain to them why they view it the way that they do but so many people see things from like a American lens I don't need cultural context they're like what's wrong it's wrong it's wrong it's wrong and I'm all like okay you stupid son of a ████ like not everyone has the same like Evangelical background of how they view marriage and
3:25 what the contract monogamy anymore is ████ rare and then so societ for the longest time for the longest time in Japan marriage was love in a marriage wasn't necessary and there's hella like stories about getting love outside of marriage so like marriage is like you ████ have a contract with this person you have kids you're lucky if you guys fall in love but at the same time that's not the role here the role here is to build a family is to be a good husband be a good wife mesh two families even business wise or who knows what's going on but Falling in Love is a different story and on top of that commoners were allowed to have love freely rich people like wealthy people Dy Royal people all of them they had to have arranged marriages so then there's hella romance stories about like you
4:16 know um you know you know what do you call it like women having to like oh I'm I'm going to run away from this ████ and then marry a commoner and then whatever right they give up their title to be with a commoners right cuz that's true love or whatever but if you're a peasant like lot of people make this argument where they're like oh well you know love it's because you know uh love is a a privilege of the rich it's actually the opposite love is a privilege of the poor yeah because there was nothing on the line no like peasants and people from towns and whatever they were just like oh I like this person I grew up with this other farmer kid and then they could ████ marry their next door neighbor for love that's fine but like the elite it was always a business thing I don't think that's Western that don't know that though because like Western Europe was like that too back in the day it's just new dumb people queens and ████ right it's just new dumb people that's how I think human history was but
5:08 for them it's more fresh but then the other layer is sex work is that uh more common over there or allow is it legal We call we call it horn well they don't view sex call five versus one I'm feeling the hive M coming so I'm trying to be you know I didn't say anything they don't view sex talk yeah your eyes are talking dude they don't view sex with the same type of sinful taboo that Americans that's Christian so I think that's that's where it's missing in context right because it's like adultery and all these things the context of how people view the violation of like of marriage through adultery is different by culture right so like for them it's like the way that they view guys being horny and wanting sex is not the same way that a Christian Society would view it a Christian Society would be like all right that ████ is sinful you have to
5:59 stick with one person and you have urges but you're not supposed to act upon them we don't admit it yeah but that's that's the actual Foundation of our law and you need to scratch it our our our foundation of the law of adultery is that is even though you have the desires you're supposed to like control yourself right whereas over there which a real gentleman would yeah but over there it's like you have desires so if you want to express it then you're it doesn't make you a bad person you just ████ do it yeah get Jered off and so the get a massage so the debate between babe I didn't know they were going to jerk me off but I couldn't say no I wanted to be polite too but the actual straight up sexy so the debate between so the debate about cheating is now what's the agreement between husband and wife not necessarily is having sex
6:51 outside of marriage cheating right that's the debate cuz yeah certain marriage going to strip club might be cheating can you um read Joe's comment I just scrolled for like 3 minutes and couldn't ████ find it Michael's watching me ████ at the bottom there's probably thousands bom there's so many comments did you do it on the Instagram one of the YouTube cuz I've been fighting on Instagram uh Tik Tok I think is where it all started but I might be wrong Tik Tok I might be wrong but I've seen I've seen a ████ ton of on tikk you're going to find it okay please is is different this is happening in Japan well it's their view like I know no no I'm asking this is happening in Japan this interview happened in Japan and got viral and now you know people talk I think the biggest one is is culturally they view sex completely different from Americans where like Americans I think there's a huge taboo and shame and weird like thing when it comes to sex and in Japan like it's a
7:41 sin yeah we we can make jokes with our parents about it openly and it's not this weird like taboo behind it you'll see kid cartoons like you know shinshan oh yeah yeah there's like nudity like a naked ass boy or whatever there's ████ yeah there's like like there's kids like ████ showing their dick and painting elephants on it yeah so the nudity thing there's public baths uh the way that they they view nudity the way that they view having sex there's festivals around sex and and the dick and all that there's no like the idea of it being sinful and bad they don't have the same so it's like hey if you need to ████ you're ████ all I've seen is Rush Hour 2 that's not Japanese you dumb ass I know that's why I'm asking that's why I'm asking is it is it is sex work normal over that no it's China is sex work legal there even well it depends on
8:32 the country so like yeah there there's like red light districts in like a lot of these countries totally Chinese even Germany it's a low right the thing is out the other Asians don't have the same view of sex either just Japan yeah Japan is very unique with their view of sex cuz Germany I think has a straight brothel I mean even it's legal there it's legal there Nevada right it's legal R 3 a French movie run Hour 3 is a fresh movie yeah yeah yeah Russ 2 is Chinese yeah it's legal it's legal in Germany in China I think they're more prude when it comes to lied to me mhm I think them but like it's not easy to find them it's not legal was it unanimous in the video every single person saying that same thing that it's not four girls that were like highlighted in that video all said the same thing I don't know if that's like cutting people out or whatever yeah they could have cut out like 70 other
9:22 chicks and unanimous in Japan everyone's like yeah this isn't cheating cuz I doubt that no this episode of off the Record is brought to you by Factor remember a few years ago I used to be fat like I'm talking about like 230 30% body fat and you know how I got there A lot of times I waited till I was hungry to get meals so by that time when you're starving and hangry you just want to eat anything so I was eating all the fast food fried stuff drive-throughs cuz when you're not in the right state of mine you're always picking the wrong stuff which is why I love Factor meals because it is a dietitian creat ated and caloric conscious meals meaning you're going to have these things shipped to your house meal prepped right away you're going to have all this food so when you're hungry what do you do you don't have to leave the house you can go straight to your fridge or straight to
10:13 where you store your food at work and you're going to have meals that are extremely delicious that can fit any of your goals they got Protein Plus they got caloric smart they even got vegan options and everything is designed by a chef and then also calculated by a dietitian to fit all your Fitness or weight goals so don't get fat like me cuz now the last couple years I've been able to hone in my diet and stay lean and that's all because of prepping your meals and that's the important of it and now Factor has an insane deal for all of our listeners which is you guys head to factor meals.com off thc50 and use code off thee reccord 50 to get 50% off that's code offe 50 at Factor meals.com sloff thc50 to get 50% off I don't think it's unanimous but Japan does have a
11:04 very unique perspective on uh sex culture and also I think it's important to clarify that Society in general for like a lot of the Asian countries have a different maleo female relationship like out here in the west right we're like like women are equal and stuff like that so all power to you know like out in the East it's not all like that there is a more traditional sex can be viewed more transactional too yeah yeah because of that because like you know the male is like you know our traditional Breadwinner whatever the woman is like a traditional whether it be like a housewife or you know part they have a Duty or responsibilities or whatever I think that also can slightly affect the way that sex culture is perceived as well cuz even like here in like K toown there's those clubs right you go hang out with your boys and they could all have you could all be wiped up or
11:54 whatever but there's chicks that come with the club that'll come and sit with you and keep you company and talk and you're flirting and all that stuff we call them domies yeah but but that's not even really but that's not considered cheating and it's just part of that culture it's just oh cool instead of just being a sausage fest let's have a bunch of chicks coming hang they're not selling you sex they're just selling hang out I think afterwards there's other things that could lead to that but it's kind of escorting but it's like out in the public though it's out in like the ktvs like the the the karaoke bars right you like go and pay for a karaoke bar so you're sitting in a private room and then at some specific hour or some time a line of girls will come I need the hour why are you saying some some specific time a line of girls will come a couple girls will come in there or every now and then like one or two girls will come knock and if you want them great if you don't like they'll Usher them on their way and the interesting thing is a lot of them aren't even like just Koreans nowadays A lot of them are even like Europeans or Russians or
12:44 whatever it's just part of the Korean club culture so they go in there and then if you're like yeah damn I'm down to come I'll give you another example so like in the business world out there right um let's say me and Anthony are from two different compan ianes and I'm his senior I'm older than him right and I'm like he he's trying to make a sale to me whatever so I'm like hey what's fun to do out here and then he'll be like there's this bar and he goes where the ████ is at take me to a brothel and he's going to be like I guess I have to right and then when we go to the brothel he's not going to be like I'm married he goes no we're both going to ████ you know why because that's what they say I got something on you now and you got something on me and now can do business now you're this guy's Toyota ████ I'm Honda he's showing you your trust yeah and then it's like we got a
13:35 bond here cuz that's how we're going to trust each other there's weird ████ up business things like that I'm not saying that it makes it okay but that's the standard right that's what they say right eping the elites yeah so so their H their their wies would understand that ████ they're like oh you did it for the business was it for your pleasure whatever okay ████ it it's not cheap I did it for Sony I did it for Sony I did it for yeah there's a lot of weird ████ that goes down that just doesn't really happen in the state but another thing too happens in the stat I think it happens in the states it's just way more but yeah that's what I'm saying it's more hush hush and would the wife be okay with it proba not right and then there's another thing too about um ████ um God damn it I just lost my train of thought yeah you ████ M it's okay think I'm going to need another example so you all five say no no no it's not cheating no I know how your
14:26 mind works now oh okay I remember what I'm going to say do not say jack ████ okay so working in two different companies American companies and Japanese companies right what I've noticed is they're way more ████ Open men and women about cheating so people watch that video and they think it's like a chauvinistic Society where only men are cheating that's not the case women are ████ cheating too they're just not like and they're laughing about it it's just normal so like yeah Americans cheat it's not like they don't cheat but they're like you said more hush hush right so they would openly talk about going out there with their side piece men and women laughing about it and then so I was like oh ████ I didn't grow up around these I grew up around Christian conservative Japanese people but these folks were just and it was in multiple companies I worked for
15:17 three different Japanese companies so I was like oh ████ all these guys are ████ each other all day long and some of them are like fluid they'll be like ████ guys and girls and I'm like God damn Japanese people are ████ perverted is is a relationship more economical like is that like the the jam like it's like sort of just it's very transactional yeah I think it's transactional compared to us so it's not so much like all of I think Americans tell themselves a big lie when it comes to relationships it it has to be the story book romance every time whereas them I think it's more like oh she wants to ████ I want to ████ we're having fun prac yeah and that's that that was it it doesn't have to be more than that but here we have the guilt of like the relationship has to be a certain way or else I feel bad for just wanting to have sex with this person I'm just trying to
16:07 ████ this person it's not you yeah what's the big deal my so I think it's just a blanket question that can't be applied same answer can't be applied right in our society and culture it's probably cheating you know what I'm saying and in Japanese maybe it's more fluid maybe it is too some people maybe it's cheating but you get forgiveness yeah so I think it's what Joe said in the beginning where it depends on the arrang that you have with your partner that's all so in our in America it's most likely the arrangement is assumed that because your marriage and you're bonded by love and trust and loyalty then it's probably cheating considering sex is also sinful as adultery yeah yeah the default is monogamy yeah yeah so that's why it's cheating but again in other cultures or other countries if that's not the same concept of marriage or that's just not how Society views sex then like I can't honestly sit here and
16:58 be like that's cheating it's like it really ████ depends on how you see ████ cuz cheating is always based on rules I don't think I get it because um unless you say it again like 10 more times go ahead Joe I think the but the modern way of how these people were saying it in the video was like um I was it was like it was more like um what did that couple agree upon one and then two if it was like an emotional transact like if ites person asking the question yeah or is it some white dude trying to like no it was a Japanese guy that's a good that's a good you know cuz they do that ████ tekashi from Japan but he does Street interviews in Japan and he just asks them all these different cultural questions he has good videos I like his video I do for does prostitution count as cheating one of the girls says it
17:49 does not I wouldn't like it if they have feelings for the one but I don't care if it's just for sex so like you know these women are just saying I'd rather they go to a prostitute than talk to random these chicks are rad I got to go to Japan let's say there the second layer let's say the second layer is okay the the transactional sex is not cheating but like let's say like one of these chicks their boyfriends or husbands or whatever sees the same girl and ████ and always ████ the same prostitute regular then is there any uh I guess feelings of jealousy or like I don't know there's got to be good question even I just feel like that's a little more natural human cuz then cuz say it is transactional it's just sex but if you keep going back I'm going to assume there's more than just sex if it's the exact same one like all right they like depends on the arrangement that you have with for sure for sure whether it's cheating but no he
18:39 was just asking he was just saying if they're jealous oh yeah cuz eventually you're going to assume like oh they probably like is it like eating out it's like I'm going to Chick-fil-A every time I like Chick-fil-A cuz if I go to another barber I feel like get his feelings hurt right for sure what's wrong with me for sure cuz you have your guy for sure Happ true for sure like I was mind blown when I talked to like Japanese from Japan and then they would talk about cheating and all this stuff with men and women to the point where it was so normalized and I was just like holy ████ most people are like in the states they hide this ████ they don't openly talk about it they're ashamed of it it's not a joke it's kind of like they're doing something naughty like bad and dudes here though that talk like that but it's all guys right they're doing coed guys and girls so I was just
19:31 like holy ████ this is a world that I don't even know I remember the first time like kind of working in the big Fitness realm and I'm yeah 18 19 20 21 I'm working with other strength coaches or whatever in the game and they're 40s and I know they're married I probably even met their wives and they're talking like that they kind of blew my brains like ████ bro I still feel bad about it they talk all dirty they talk you know they talk broy ████ yeah ████ yeah yeah yeah ████ feels good puss p████'s wet
// end of tape