0:05 Welcome to another episode of Careful Boys where we're going to go ahead and let you in on a I guess you can call it slightly vulnerable topic. What's an opinion that you got a lot of hate for in the past but you still haven't changed how you feel? >> What was it? >> [laughter] >> Come again? You turned into a homie's toy. >> An opinion we had in the past and you never changed it. >> Like let's say you got hate for like feeling a certain way or you voiced something and you said, "I don't like these guys." and then people were like, "Boo, that sucks." and you are like, "So, okay. That's how I feel." >> That's what it is. >> Had one of those where you voiced something, people were against it and you still haven't changed your mind. >> What do you think about Nick? >> Well, it's hard because I feel like I don't really like voice crazy ████
0:56 >> Nah, it's just people always agree with my hot takes, dude. >> Oh, wow. >> No, I've never had like I've never had a situation where somebody goes like, "Dude, what the ████ are you talking about?" Like not that I could think of in recent memories as far as like >> Or maybe even one person didn't agree and tried to talk you out of it and said, "Nick, why you got to think like that? That's not good." >> Oh, I got one. This one it's I've never said it out loud but I can tell the regular world won't like it based off what they already react to >> Yeah. >> which is like when you're getting in altercations with police officers >> Uh-huh. >> why don't you just comply? >> [laughter] >> Or pretend to a little bit. >> You just deal with that and then you find them in court. That's where you win.
1:46 >> Yeah, like why why do you want to like turn the simmer into a boil and then now some crazy s███'s about to pop off. >> Unless you're super smart and you understand the law. Like I've seen lawyers just maneuver like a ████ But they do it calmly and they do it smart. >> I've had I've had a friend who kind of explained that to me a little bit cuz he kind of had that problem. And he said that he he's aware of that and he knows not to do that. But when it happens, it's like a reflex. >> Then that's stupid. You have no self-control. >> Yeah, it's an impulse. It's like he said it's like he is totally aware. He would say the same advice to anyone else. But then in that moment kind of like you know when the when the cop pulled us over and he was trying to tell you that you hit his car. >> He started >> And we were like, what are you ████ talking like there's so many ways any of us are in our minds are taking that. And
2:38 like you're just one more step above in control that you're like you didn't say that. And then to someone else maybe their whole life they've always been dealing with this. Like maybe if that happened to them to you three times, same ████ situation. By the third time, you still know you should comply but you're sick of it. You know what I mean? I think that's that's how he was putting it. >> But that's also why police officers are trained to learn like de-escalation tactics. >> Yeah. >> For that reason too, right? It's like there there's a way that they go about certain traffic stops so they can kind of keep it chill. >> And the luck of drawing that cop is like It sucks to get the one that just, you know, wants to be a dick. >> viral. >> My my buddies that have worked jails they said the most peaceful peaceful ones are always Mexican Mafia. They go in. They comply.
3:29 They know you know like there's other people that go in and then they're asking why they're even in there or people that are like, oh you're singling me out because of this X Y Z. And it you're just going to make the whole process ████ crazy. And you know they have more power over you. But you're like you now you're challenging them. And then so now they're like, oh you know what? Okay, this guy seems like he wants an anal cavity search now. And then boom, you just have an extra anal cavity search versus the Mexican >> Maybe that's their game, dude. >> [laughter] >> Maybe that's the end game, dog. >> to make me ████ >> Does take me back to like a common family uh like Jesus did say this. And I think a lot of Mexican people say this. You probably have known [clears throat] this for years. Mexican families are really good at teaching their kids to just lay low. >> Yeah. >> Just be like, don't don't stand out. Like, don't cause Yeah, yeah. Don't like
4:20 if something's going on, just stay out of it. Just >> Yeah, ch- ch- ch- ch- ch- >> And it's And it's That's kind of like the um I guess that's really great advice, first of all, because, you know, even if that's rooted in like they don't want You don't want people snooping around asking for IDs from everyone standing there just cuz you're loud. You know what I mean? It totally makes sense, but then you have other cultures that are like, "No, don't put up with no disrespect ever." And that is >> That's not helpful, either. >> And then they get your butt hole searched. >> That's very bad. >> There's definitely a happy medium. >> Cuz even like the the super gangster ones, the Mexican mafia dudes, >> Yeah. >> they'll just be like, "Okay, ████ this dude. I'll memorize his badge number. I'll try to get more information while I'm in here, but the whole time I comply. And then I'm going to smoke him I'm going to smoke him on the streets. No one will even know who did it." versus trying to start some altercation
5:10 like right then and there. >> with a >> You're talking about I mean, you can't tell a low IQ to operate like a high IQ. Like the mob bosses are high IQ. They know how to operate well. >> No, I'm talking about even just like street level Mexican mafia like thugs. Yeah, yeah. Street level homies. >> It's good culture. It's good culture that they're representing. >> it starts there. I It really looks like it starts with the the dad being like, "Shh. Shh." You know, like that's You know what I mean? Like that means a lot if that's in your mind from being a child. Like just >> But the ones that are wild, they have no dad. They don't have parents. They're just They're just toddlers. >> what it is. >> That's That's That was going to be my idea. >> They're unregulated toddlers. That's all it is, right? That's why >> They never had a parent to tell them, "Shut the ████ up." >> cannons. >> Right, cuz my buddy who, you know, was working the jails in in in in Hawaii was telling me like, "You know, we all we
6:02 all just feel like we're babysitters for big Samoan toddlers." >> With unresolved dad issues. >> Your homie that that was snapping at the cops, what's his dad situation like? >> No parents. >> He's in the big No, he's not. >> [laughter] >> And also, too, right? Gangs. We're thinking about gangs. Who are the most vulnerable guys to join gangs? >> Yeah. >> Guys without a dad, yeah. >> Broken home dudes, yeah. >> Bronx Tale. >> His dad was there, that's why. >> Bronx Tale, yeah. >> Oh, Bronx Tale, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Could've went full-blown, but him collegia- collegiary, whatever. >> Collegenero. >> Also, depends on the gang. Like Bart said, like if you're from a smarter gang, the older homies are going to be like, "Dude, don't be like that. Get your Do your time. Get the ████ out." If you're from a dumbass gang, everyone's going to be like, "Don't let that fool disrespect you." >> It's that It's that disrespect thing I think plays into what you're talking about. The when people mouth off to
6:52 cops, it's the It's the feeling of like, "I can't let them disrespect me," which I don't think is a It's not something that crosses over to every >> what ends up happening is they're trying to uh win the short-term battle, but they lose the war, right? >> Versus like like either even both both paths. The first one, I'mma comply, and then I'm going to make my whole like jail experience smooth, or I'mma comply, and then I'm going to come back and smoke this dude. Both of them are just going to have a easier experience the whole time. And even with like, you know, my the modern-day scenario would be like crazy ass protesters that like are against ISIS or whatever or or uh Border Patrol. They I'm like, "Dude, if they tell you to just Lady, can you stand over here?" >> [laughter] >> Like, just stand over there, dude. >> [gasps]
7:42 >> Like, you don't have to be like, "I don't have to stand over there." I over there. And what are you going to do? What are you going to do, huh? >> Hey, it's your life. All right, if you want to ████ lose it. I mean, he'll lose his job, but you will die. It's probably not a good trade. >> Yeah. >> Right? >> I'm not saying stop protesting, but if they go, "Can you like back up?" Just back up a little bit. >> want that to happen to my friend who was protesting, either. It's not like a good ending. But there is a double standard, I think, where where it's like let's say that this happened to you three times, right? And all three of those times, like you weren't doing nothing. You just got hassled by a cop, right? So, you're kind of at a breaking point. The fourth time you get caught, you were doing something bad. You know what I mean? But then they're like it's like just always happens to me. But it's like you might be thinking of the other times that they were just bugging you. But if you're if you did something wrong this time, just that's when you should really play it cool. Cuz you actually can get found out
8:33 with stuff, you know. >> they have dirt on you. [snorts] >> Yeah, like there's times where I should have got way more trouble. There was a time where it was in SGV, my ████ high school friends. I would I used to go to this one martial arts store in Artesia called Kung Fu, and you could buy any weapon you wanted. Like, you could buy police batons, like real like actual police supply batons. Yeah. Yeah, you could buy all that ████ So, I would just keep that in my car. Me and my friends would ████ around with it just for fun. I would buy throwing knives, all these things. You know the big fat ones with the holes slotted in them? And we're just ████ around in this parking lot, SGV, around Valley Boulevard. And then right when my friend held the baton up, a cop drove by and just like stopped and like saw us, and he came to the parking lot, and he sat me down on the curb, and he said he was going to take me to jail or whatever. He starts searching my car. Obviously, he found the baton, took it away. And
9:23 then he starts searching my ████ 2001 Civic, but it's so ████ messy that he doesn't find three other weapons in there. >> Did you tell me he doesn't have a warrant? You got to say he doesn't have a warrant. >> Well, I mean I think that's I think that's >> Well, you're you're like, "Yeah, you're spinning it." >> Yeah, it's already justified. >> You don't have a warrant. >> Yeah, so at that point it's like we all kind of know like, you know, my homie's ████ Salvo. And uh we know to keep our ████ mouth shut and just not say anything. Or not like zip it, but just to be nice, you know, like, "Hey, sorry man, I'm just a fan of martial arts. I'm an idiot. I just we were just playing around." That's it. And just be nice, you know? And he just like stopped searching and he just was like, "You guys are ████ dumb." And that's it. And he just took it away and left. >> I don't get why people don't understand that. >> Yeah, I don't either. >> Like just keep the peace. Even in TSA, you know, they have to do random checks? >> Yeah. >> Like sometimes they'll just random check. Oh, like, "Uh you come here, sir." Well, okay, just going to let's
10:14 just go through. >> think they understand what you mean though, cuz I think when people hear it, they go, "Oh, so you just going to let them run your life and do everything they want?" >> Yeah, it's pride-based. >> They're No, it's No, it's based on they're going to overstep their legal boundaries. Because what we're saying is comply within your legal limits, right? So don't let them overreach and do illegal ████ but you have to study the law and understand what they're allowed to do, right? >> I get what you're saying. >> But like like I'll see like TSA >> They don't even know where those are. >> I'll see random TSA searches or whatever. And they're like, "Uh excuse me, sir, can you come here?" Ugh. You're going to make me late to my flight. Jesus Christ. And I'm like, "Why you got to make it like Now this guy's probably like, 'Oh, I'm really going to take my time to look through the luggage then, you know?'" And he's just like, "Hurry up." And I'm like, "Dude, what the f███?"
11:04 >> Like you got to admit though >> You're screwing yourself over so hard. >> But chill, dude. >> There are idiots, right? So then like you don't want the idiot to ruin your time and and space. So sometimes you got to be a Karen, cuz it's like they do that and then they're like, "You got to throw this away." It's the right amount of liquid though. And you're going to stand there and have a ████ fight with an idiot making you throw away your ████ $300 bottle of cologne? There's so many instances that hap that Yeah, but it's really about picking your battles and it's like do you is it worth it right now? >> Yeah. Like right is it is it really worth like and I think the nuance is the difficult thing for people to like figure out cuz I actually think the path of least resistance is better. It's always better. >> That's what it is to the goal. Cuz I shared a story in here a long time ago about when I was traveling with Quest and I had a necklace that was
11:54 it was a a rifle made of metal the size of my finger. It was my necklace, right? 2009 traveling like this and they made me leave the airport to watch me throw it away in a trash can. I could have you know had a bigger fuss and made a scene and but it would have just made me miss my flight. It would have like ruined every other they could have just taken it to an unreasonable degree but I'm like okay, let's weigh that. Can I should I just do that? And it's not that big of a deal. It doesn't cost that much and I'd rather be over with the situation. >> Remember that one time we're doing a show and I got stopped. So I got stopped we're doing this when we used to do shows and they opened my luggage and then he's like that's more than 4 oz. It's for my hair gel, right? And I need my hair gel for the show and then and then it was one no it was one of those where it's like I had like 3 oz in like a 8 oz container. But I measured how many oz I put in there and then the guy was like I
12:46 was in the navy. I know how many oz this is. I was like what does that have to do with anything? He goes he's like I'm going to have to like throw it away whatever. I was like yeah, I'll throw it away. Cuz then I know when I land I'll just go to like CVS and I'll go buy another one. But then we're to onto our goal which is to get to our destination. I'm like what? >> Do you want to be detained and then searched further? Yeah. The thing is I think I I I I respect a lot of like intelligence, right? So like I've seen this one video of a college student. He's a law student, right? And he was being like illegally searched and seized and he actually baited the cop to arrest him illegally. And then he asked for his superior officers to come in and then he goes boom boom boom. The cop was kind of not well versed and educated and he was like, "Bam, got him." And then the the the the the the sergeant or the the the more higher-up was like,
13:36 "Aw, s███." Cuz he knows and he tried to backtrack, they tried to be super nice. And he goes, "You guys have those cameras on? You better have them on because we're going to use them in court." And I was like, "Bro, like this is the ████ that people want to do, but they're too ████ stupid. They don't This is just screaming at a cop and you don't even know how to engage. You don't know how to like fight them in the right way. And that's where I'm like, "I'm not like comply with officers all day, every day. Be smart. Be a poker player, right?" And then all understand the rules of engagement cuz you can actually catch people doing stupid ████ >> don't even know the law that well. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, and I watch it all the time. There's like a Uber driver who's also like a law student. >> They don't know every law. Like that's They still have to refer to, you know. It's still not >> Cuz they're You're right, yeah, there are people that abuse their power, right? And then so it's like So be smarter, understand how this stuff
14:27 works, and then fight them the right way. And I think that's that's way better than like yeah, it's like if And then for me though it's it's actually like opportunity cost. If I got ████ to do that day, then if I ain't got ████ to do that day, then I'm like, "All right, let's ████ play, you know?" But in most cases, I got ████ to do. I ain't got time for this ████ >> guess maybe that's where like I think that's the only the only thing that I've heard on the opposite side of that argument is that my buddy was saying that like imagine if that just kept ████ happening to you over and over and over and over. It's not like it's it's a you know, it's it's not like he's going into it going like this is what I want to do. It's like a ████ snap. >> But wouldn't it wouldn't it make sense though if it keeps happening that you study and you become smarter in how these things actually operate. So when
15:18 you're engaging, you can have an upper hand. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> when I change my demeanor, the cops changed. >> Yeah. >> Like like when I was getting pulled over as a teen, I was like, "Man, ████ this fool." You know? Like but then if you're if you're if you're getting pulled over and then you're just being a normal human being and you're not ████ showing attitude and whatever, they're like sometimes they'll let you go without a ticket. They'll just be like, "Just try to drive safe, whatever." >> I wouldn't even go as far as to say comply. I would just say ████ fake compliance so you can get away with your ████ If cuz if you're doing a crime, ████ just do what you have to do to get away with it. Do crime better. I'm >> And and if it does happen all the time, learn how to be more efficient with it. So like if you're that that white guy example I gave at the TSA and he keeps getting randomly [snorts] checked, then just be the guy that always check
16:08 in your baggage so you have no carry-on and there's nothing to randomly search. You know what I mean? Instead of like, "Yeah, I get it." If every if he was the guy that randomly gets checked every time. Then don't even ████ have a don't just check everything in cuz they're not going to randomly search you if you have nothing on your body. >> Easy fix. Get precheck. Yeah, get precheck. >> Can you get precheck for being pulled over from cops? >> No, you can't. You got to try flirting, though. >> Imagine you get precheck for like so when cops pull you over, "I'm sorry, Mr. Quan. I didn't know you had precheck." >> It's okay. >> [laughter]
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