0:00 Joe's like I have my moments and Bart's like I needed to last right yeah yeah Joe's like I could bust it over the road yeah but it's like I need to bust forever [Music] welcome back to a very special careful boys where we are indeed very careful boys and today we're talking about what does making it look like to you oh man making it it's a question we all have when you make it what's it gonna look like I feel like I made it oh ████ off [Laughter] that's good I feel like I ████ made it but once you make it you have a whole new set of Dreams because your reality changes okay interesting like so like
0:50 when you I think when I was younger and then I was dreaming about a lot of things like oh I can't wait till um I achieve these goals or whatever right for some reason we all have this thought well at least I did where once you get there everything is coasting from there that's what I believed but then there's also a point where you achieve everything and then you don't have anything else after that that's also sad too because then like you're like okay I got what I wanted I have this money goal everything goal I checked off all the things right but then if you don't really have anything else or purpose or something to fight for I guess like there's it's like life is not meaningless but it gets really boring quick like you can only do so much of
1:42 just having as much fun as you want eating as much as you want there's there's a point where if you just live for Pleasures then there's this weird thing that happens where it's like the opposite of it becomes too normal to the point where you need something right it's like the living the hedonistic lifestyle I didn't go that far but really it's like how close would you come not as hardcore as like rock star status where you're coked out and having orgies and ████ but my wholesome level of like like I agree unlimited amounts of snowboarding ████ playing and just traveling without anyone to be responsible for you don't get eaten every Tuesday every ████ sexual escort pain I wanted Tuesday and Thursday yeah Thursday let's go and that's Taco Tuesday that's a lot
2:32 for a woman to commit to on a Taco Tuesday well if you do it in the morning then it's before you eat chocolate oh that's good so it would be Wednesday that's the really bad yeah Wednesdays yeah don't do it it's like don't do it Wednesday yeah that's Taco Wednesday because Taco Tuesday so the follow-up yeah the diarrhea Wednesdays yep but then maybe Thursday alliteration I'm looking for like the what the ████ Wednesday or something yeah Wednesday Wednesday or we should do this later Wednesday yeah still good but I I what I realize is I like that feeling of when I make it yeah I don't actually like to be in the state of made it if that I don't know like I know what you mean yeah it's like I'm looking for the next thing I like to run my marathon without even getting to the Finish Line I just like to keep running yeah I think um for the sake of the
3:23 conversation I think I might have a more objective concept but again same maybe never have you made it and then also in context I do agree with the idea that like if I were like if my younger self were to see what I'm doing right now and or how much I'm making for doing what I love that younger self would be like you ████ made it exactly that definitely I agree with that 100 and and I have to remind myself of that sometimes in order to be grateful for like whatever lifestyle that I have today right um but I think in in a more objective concept I think if I I think I would assume or or uh uh accept that I quote unquote made it if I didn't have to work I don't think that I would necessarily live a purposeless life and not do something that committed to purpose whether it be as Noble as like charitable stuff all day or or just a hedonistic lifestyle of like playing around and just like doing things that
4:13 are of pleasurable fun without responsibility and care I I regardless of what I was doing I think the concept of never having to work anymore because things were just uh done and I do think a lot of it unfortunately does come down to things like money and resources and finances like if I just didn't have to work I could still choose to yeah and I could still choose to fulfill my time with things that are either of like you know passion desire purpose and or just regular work but if I didn't have to because I was taken care of and enough of a lifestyle that would be like multi-generational um I could take care of my parents and I could take care of like future children and myself in the current lifestyle I think that financially I would assume that I'd be like that's considered making it so your your goal is to be a trust fund baby Ashton kutchman would hate you because he doesn't want to leave anything first I feel like you
5:03 guys have blown that out of proportion but yes I agree that's that's my definition of making it where you don't have to work for like covering your bills because I think that's what pollutes the purity of your work so recently um maybe like two or three weeks ago I went to go eat barbecue with David uh Adam Perry Lane's place so he's like arguably like one of the best pit Masters ever and I started talking and when you see him working like he's doing these pop-up shops he has this giant ████ trailer and he's an artist right like he's a Michelin star Chef a French train but also really good with barbecue and I asked them I'm like how come you don't open up a restaurant and he goes I had restaurants I had a bunch of them but he goes the minute you have a restaurant you have to commercialize and monetize it so if your heart is here but if
5:54 burgers and fries or steaks whatever makes money you have to do this to keep the place open he goes right now I can do whatever crazy ass shrimps that I want I could do smoke duck the next day I can constantly focus on my art and I'm like damn that's really cool because I don't think I'm gonna be an unproductive person but it's every time I think when you're in any type of creative Endeavor you're always faced with this fork in the road you're like dude I really want to do this artistically but then you're like but does this make the most sense for the whole team financially and then when you have to make those decisions it almost feels like you either you're either stabbing yourself or you're stabbing the artwork or you're stabbing whatever so if I can get to a point where like um passively somehow all of my ████ is taken care of now every single thing I
6:44 can do it for why I want to do it whether it is a charity or or whatever then I can just solely focus on that and I feel like I'd be like that to me would be making it because now I get to kind of like have my cake and eat it too what is something you would do for example so come on nandy the ████ you just said so one thing one of the things was uh whether crypto made it big or something or any other thing that like really like if anything blew up for me like if you had like 20 million dollars yeah and then now you just don't have to work so one one thing that I wanted to do was like let's say I had some like let's say I came across like a million dollars somehow I wanted to take at least a hundred aside and just make 10 whatever short films and submit all of them but then like spend like 10 G's on each one and but now each one is a hundred
7:34 percent purely for me did you just make a million dollars off your forever home I didn't see 10 films come out yeah but that's not enough though you know I mean I need like enough to where like if if it really not to blow it you don't want to blow a million dollars yeah if I covered my ████ be 20x to a million dollars see that's different yeah yeah then I can like fully do what I want and then really figure out if things made it because I'm lacking the skill or lacking the whatever or versus me making decision out of external factors yeah but like yeah movies is top is up there for me um also just shooting dumb things like ████ real life Tonka trucks smashing mountains and like you know like like uh tar and Feathering like Boeing 747 like that kind of ████ is still up there oh that's right yeah yeah yeah such a
8:25 passion project making them look like eagles hey making them look like eagles yeah yeah but movies is a is a big one though it's a big one still made it you made it Joe you can jerk it as much as you want all day nobody's gonna bug you sometimes I wake up in the morning and I fondle myself and I look over at Hannah and I'm on like I made it bro cause now I could jack off or have sex with her yeah and I can do whatever and then I still get to come I get to I so many ways I can go to the bathroom right now jack off in the shower I could do a lot of things I made it bro it's the simple things in life it's the simple simple things guess what you think Tutankhamun could do that ████ nope he's dead as a mummy he had to jerk off with ████ Stones yeah it's going like that trying to make
9:15 fire on his stick this is trying to get his dick off you know what I'm trying to do I'm trying to be a kid again because you know kids don't have financial responsibility yes so like that where you can your financial ████ your real ████ your world your real world ████ is covered so you can go back into a space where you could just be like a kid this child like Wonder and follow me what's stopping you from doing having moments of that like failing JK true because I don't know like for maybe going down the toilet bowl like this like 15 minute scooter ride for me makes me feel like a million dollars or like being able to just swim are they because it's too temporary it so to me it feels fake hmm fleeting I don't know about fake but fleeting yeah I guess I don't know to me it feels like did you have the hot dog if you just took one bite at Costco this
10:05 is why you guys are eating me that's why you guys are eating leading then but it works I needed to ████ last right yeah yeah Joe's like I could bust it up right out yeah Bart's like I need to bust forever I need to know that when I bust the nuts I don't have to worry after and Joe's like I'll figure the next nut out I don't know yeah maybe yeah the next nut will come we'll just come why don't we ask a 20 millionaire yeah you wanna know what you want to know what it feels like at the 20 million Mark yeah yeah tell us how it's like to make it I think um I think making it to me really is just like if you feel like you're happy with how you lived I think that's pretty much making it like looking back because not everybody's gonna end up rich but they are going to
10:56 be satisfied with what they did oh like they'll have a big you you look at uh abuelito with her big family she didn't make millions of dollars but she's ████ happy you know like she made it millions of babies like she made it I think I think of it that way I think like if you get to see the other side of the wall in your lifetime of something that you wondered for so long like what was there then that's good enough to me that's true because do you want to be the lonely billionaire that owns the company yes yes yes or the happy janitor that goes home no no no ████ family not at all well because we we've seen like that's another thing is that we've seen good shoot again people of all net worths have shot themselves it's kind of like nobody really you know it's not a give me a chance and a gun let me prove them wrong yeah so we'll show them wrong
11:46 show them all them biggest like indicators of making it is if you wet most of your life thinking you couldn't do something and everyone else also believed you couldn't do it and you ended up doing it that's making it to me yeah I think that's cool like like you never work at McDonald's just watch me ████ watch me handle this McMuffin ████ and which is why Ryan for JK president 2024 yeah Hall of Fame dude kind of you know so with that definition do you feel like you made it I think the child version of me thinks I made it 50 times over yep agreed though absolutely because because the things the things that I was able to accomplish in my lifetime weren't even on the table when I was a kid they were all they all sounded like made up fantasy so many first place championships I know man it's but but also I don't want like I see it exactly like that way too where
12:37 it's like but the younger me is like what the ████ how are you here and then I can tap into that but it's not to say I'm done so like I don't feel like I made it I'm done it's more like I think you're done huh [Laughter] making it is like going back to what I was saying is like once you've made it there's a whole new set of things you're gonna see your world opens up now it's like what's the next I totally agree with that I also think that us as people uh probably also why we're friends and why we like work together and stuff like that like whatever our concept Even in our minds right now we could objectively be like oh yeah I understand that maybe this threshold is where we made it we probably start like 5x away from that you know what I mean like we we might say this man and we'd still be thirsty
13:27 for like another 5x that version shut the ████ up family I'm so ████ tired my brother's like this hey my brother's like this dude I'm not not to brag I took this kid he put in twenty thousand dollars in the crypto he made 900 and ████ sixty thousand dollars riding with your boy yeah and it wasn't enough and he was smart so he cashed out no well he catch up some with me when we when we cashed out when I sent you a text and I said I'm cashing out when I sent you a text that I'm cashing out he cashed out some but again we we all wish we left we took more out but like this kid just couldn't ████ be happy with turning like 20 grand into 900 that's that's the best multiples I've ever heard that's what I'm saying it's insane I think uh you know I have a pretty good
14:18 method but you never know how people are gonna respond to that right it's like oh I need a little bit more right did I need a little more yeah I did right because it's like the thing where you're like oh I'm I've been so right so far I know I'm gonna be right again and again and it's like dude just take some credit for this ████ I think it's all it's it's all about where you set the bar right so like let's say if his bar was 500 million then he'll feel like a failure at 10. exactly and that's what happened ultimately and you know I love the kid doesn't matter it doesn't matter and you and he care like that much like because he was with me the first eat run when we were like riding ethereum and he had only put in like a small amount I think he made like 60 000 at that time and then he he wrote it back down but then he wrote it back up because he was like DC in the lows which is what you're
15:09 supposed to do but that's the whole thing is like he knows now the method to getting there but it's work and now he's got to do the work again and that's kind of like you know it almost doesn't end like the next thing doesn't end because you're always chasing the next piece of work which is why you know to run his point though like if it's not a financial concept then it's it's not necessary you know what I mean finances are think about like inflation you know what I mean a number has this value at this moment and then like another year it just changes in value so soaking your dream or soaking your concept of making it well I think for people who have kids it's just a different thing mine's a very Financial number yeah monetarily that's what my brothers like the minute I can hit 20K a month passively I'm done today but like if the US dollar tanks and then 20K is like 50 bucks because I also have uh retirement so if
16:02 I if it carries me enough and we can do enough calculations like this even with inflation can carry me to when I can crack open my retirement I'm done I don't need to like work anymore in that sense here yeah I I again from a because I'm not there objectively I'm I'm the same boat I agree as long as like those things can be taken care of from a multi-general basis and like DCA when you have to versus because it's fun it's different too yes so true yeah and and having a kid it really honestly opened my mind a lot because like you you think more primally yeah you're like I gotta take care of my ████ fan and that's why it's 20K instead of 10K because 10K would be I mean obvious you could live a great life on 10K passive but then you're literally at your limits and if a big investment comes along you don't have anything so that's why for me it's at 20K so that I'll probably live way
16:52 under 10k but then that gives me to a chance to DCA every single day every single month across all Industries you know and then if I want to take like random first class flights once a quarter I still can please don't diversify them myself but aside from like making it monetarily or lifestyle wise like I think there's also just lifestyle goals accomplishing right like yeah like there's there's a bar we all set for like our health or like just creatively or the things that you want to just Express or write or think or do I think younger Joe was much more concerned about those goals than financially until I got older than it's like oh family future security all those things
17:43 like they weigh out that's where financial goals start coming in did you realize how how much a lot of it's tied to that you're like ████ I have a hard time going to the gym I a higher Trader ah ████ that costs money yeah no but then you have a trainer you can get it you get to your goals so much faster because you got someone helping you doing it with you Nick what's making it for you man well going back to what you guys were saying this many clients part of me feels like in a lot of ways I have made it right but also on the flip side it's like the goal posts always move you know so uh I think a big thing is that Financial Security that like you guys are talking about that Nest Egg yeah that you need to have always whether it's for you your family or just to be able to have like a little bit more Financial Freedom so it's like I can't take time off if I need to or
18:34 you know be able to pay for certain things for like my family or whatever the case may be and also for Investments so I think in my head there's there's definitely a number two but it's man a lot of ways I just want to keep just getting better at stuff you know just like keep getting more skills like learning how to be better at running a business get better at just all of the aspects of like my life that I want to build out you know but a lot of it too is has to do with my wife and my family and like it's kind of weird it's like so corny and lame but like it's super gay but it I'm starting to my life and my family no but like when I come home like that's that's like the best part of my day you know it's like when I get to come home after a long day of work and just like you know doing all things I need to do and just like kind of chilling relaxing with my fam like
19:24 that's awesome there's nothing that beats that so anything that could insulate that and protect that and expand that is definitely what is like making it to me but it's also one of those things where it's going to con it's gonna require continual skill acquisition leveling up always and just trying to like just move the goal post so you don't get stagnant that's what I'm really afraid of too is like just being stagnant being comfortable with what I have because I feel like being comfortable in general is so dangerous and so like something I am accustomed to probably so anything that pushes me outside of that like comfort zone enough safely enough where I could expand and get better is what I would probably consider making it yeah thank you that's awesome no Don't Clap dude no that's awesome I'm not done dude I do think
20:14 when when you make it too hard too quick and it's too safe it can ████ with your um desire to need to like fight for stuff or survive yeah I think it's just your goals right so me and David have talked about this too because like it's such a stupid thing but like he can relate to me because like I ████ set a goals like I want to start a ████ movie by the time whatever and then me and David both did that and then I was like now what and like you the now what is crazy on you it really is because you didn't set another goal you're like it's probably gonna take forever because you you don't think it's too highly of yourself so you're like and me and David really have lived on that too so it's like you don't think too high of yourself you're like well if I get to that I'll be crazy and then we do it way early and then it's like what now it's like oh ████ and that became like a whole nother explorative thing but like I think that for me it was like
21:07 you know like family like you're talking about like like the other night like like I hadn't seen I hadn't gotten to hang with Nikki for like a couple of days because she was like doing poker stuff and I was doing Griffith stuff and then like um she went to this like sounds weird but she went to this like ████ Chanel thing so she's uh she's like this Gucci sponsored thing with Chanel or whatever I don't know how's that weird well no it's weird because she's like sounds cool she has to go there in the morning and then like I'm flying out for JK so I'm like oh ████ I won't see you for like a couple days or whatever so then she she texts me from there she's like hey I'm coming home I was like oh ████ I'm gonna see her right and that was just so exciting for me because I'm like that's my family right Nikki's my family yeah and then when she got home you know when I was putting both of my feet on the back of her neck and I was mounting her
21:59 that was when I was like this is what making it is you know like I am home and I have truly made it you know and I had my shoes on hey you know what's what's kind of scary though is that we can say that we have known a lot of people that we have seen really make it and then they just mentally fell apart isn't that crazy that's what's crazy too yeah we know people who are on top of the world right now have the highest attention all that stuff and they're having a mental breakdown you know what then we ████ made it or honestly yeah to just to just be mentally healthy dude that's a that's an underrated thing that's what I'm saying because we I feel like I'm super underrated I'm living great I feel very grateful second place is not that bad your first place to me Anthony dude first runner up somewhere
22:49 because sometimes yeah some people they have like what's outside made it and then you're like oh that's ████ sick but then you yeah then you see what happens on their insides and you're like man maybe I don't want to make it I just I really we've seen people fall apart for no reason you're like did you have everything you're at the height of your career exactly everything's going great and then they just freeze up and they're like I want to kill myself yep and you're like what I've heard people do stuff like that that's why I like the the struggle part of it where you're like aiming for something and I like the the the run because then you don't have time to think about your trauma that's what you're reminisce about that's why what JK so sick I know this era is so sick after juggle is so real there's for real when what you have to do kind of coincidentally aligns with what you like to do that's a pretty ████ good making it right when you're you just
23:39 have to pick out a pair of shoes you're gonna step on your wife's head with yeah and you have options you're like I really didn't make it I can't believe I have options yeah like I didn't used to it could have been a sandals do this with my bare feet now it's either Gucci or Chanel yeah which one dude it's always the New Balances foreign beautiful
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