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Off The Record: The Careful Boys Wanna Know How to Speak

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0:00 my question is did he come Jesse came it's it's just the fact that he was a guy [Music] hey guys oh it's new dude that was so sick hey guys my neighbor that's like some crusty the clown style so welcome you sounded like those ████ like uh uh keep it nice no dude those ████ in the mall you know there's like people that try to sell you ████ like hey dude you wanna real quick five minutes do you want to clear your shoes the T-Mobile guys here's a Boost Mobile phone for yeah the band the balance man's hey guys do you use a phone like get the ████ out of here dude oh right sounds great I'll go ████ myself thank you yeah go ahead uh welcome back to another awesome episode of the careful boys and we've got a cell

0:50 phone salesman over here Mr Jesus hey my man come here you need some minutes you literally you need some minutes remember that the minutes how many minutes you use man you look like you use like 100 minutes I got something for you oh so you look like what you look like yeah that's all they got like you look like you talk a lot yeah you look like you guys are roll over a minute that's what I do I do Boost Mobile salesman that's how you got me he's like yo mama made me talk to you real quick you look like you need like 200 minutes I'm like I mean I use 200 men let me talk to you real quick I'm gonna put you on a goddamn plan all I ████ need I was like all right all right so do your Asian accent I can't do a nation accent come on dude give me something give me something and I'm just trying to mimic it give me something the T-Mobile guy give me give me a a an accent let me see if I can Vietnamese Vietnamese well let me give

1:40 me here excuse me excuse me that's good bro excuse me I know we're not sitting here I'm ████ sitting here watching the Japanese guy give a Vietnamese attitude yeah I've been doing it longer than you have oh ████ put that knife away no man you're not born from it okay how do you do that is it like a yeah do they have a lot of men are you the drinking the waters oh that's good that's good no I can't do it I can't do it that's ████ race that's racist which one's a Cambodian though I think a lot of the South Southeast Asians kind of have a little bit of the the good it was Cambodian but yeah he'll talk

2:30 black like ████ ████ don't know ████ ain't gonna talk to his mom yeah sonic Hood as ████ ain't sounded confusing me speaking of when you're joking you were just talking about oh dude I got a crazy ████ story tell me the detail okay I'll tell you to detail [Laughter] don't get me started dude I'm gonna get me started dude I had a homie this happened to him dude I'm not gonna say his name because poor ████ guy dude but my friend right now okay [Laughter] you gotta believe that a minute three anyways leave that now but he actually uh hooked up with this he hooked up with this girl right really hot dude what's her name I'll show you two returns and I'll show you her picture ████ it so he hooked up with this girl right the club everything was great he ████ hooked up she's hot whatever and then later he

3:20 finds out that this girl was actually uh trans and she transitioned to a woman so she was a guy before but never told him but what do you mean hook up like that they ████ they ████ did what he did oh all that dude he couldn't tell the difference so I guess he didn't they were drunk I don't know he had a condom didn't really tell us whatever they ████ I don't know but they ████ and I was like bro did you I I ████ and I was like damn but he later found out that she was trans he was embarrassed to talk about it and really ████ with him he was angry about it but then she came at him like yo you're being transphobic for getting bothered by it and it's like so my thing is how would you feel and is she right or how we feeling about this what's going on with this is that like I think it's kind of a ████ up thing to do if

4:12 you're not gonna tell someone but then I think she felt like why should I tell you yeah but it's like but technically it's like yeah well I don't like guys that's why but but I don't know maybe that's why I don't like eyes maybe that's why I usually she's like you're not a guy exactly but that's the thing but she okay oh then now we get me into ████ Rocky ████ ways dude and this Captain does not know how to steer this ████ dude [Applause] I just rode a boat you know what I mean my question is did he come Jesse came then what is he complaining about yeah exactly it's just the fact that he was a guy oh my gosh she's a female but it's a guy semen I mean a guy this guy guy ████ um he's a rocky waters for sure

5:03 this is Deadliest catchment hey dude minute five discretion dude hey guys scratch it off forget I even said anything dude but I'm saying is it technically is the DNA is it still male like like saliva though because here's the thing is like if I'm going in for a hookup and I got what I wanted and it was great who ████ cares but what if his thing is like I don't like trans girls then he ████ up yeah but but wife like she never said anything like he didn't know like is he supposed to ask hey why wait I don't know you were trying so to play Devil's Advocate the fact that he didn't know kind of like double as Advocate to himself because if he goes well I don't like trans women well the fact that he came and he enjoyed that experience

5:55 something different he came he came he saw and he called yeah dude I was like tripping out he showed me the girl I slid you up and the thing I was like holy ████ that's a girl yeah well I have to agree because as far as he knows till the end she was a woman and he was having sex with the woman exactly I don't know it's to me it's like it's not like he showed up and then she had a dick and he and he's like well I suck don't say names though share with the clown I want to see okay hold on guys how come he gets to see how come wait I mean some of these give it a second look for the reaction don't be in the corner cam guys they want to see your reactions that's that's a woman dude they can't see some of these trans girls are better

6:47 than some real women yeah no I mean that's who it is fair enough I mean they got that thing yeah but it's got the one though yes [Laughter] yeah there's there's a thing there there's there's bottom pieces there's a thing to ████ so then apparently it looked and felt great right like dude listen he wouldn't have known listen how did he find out he was just like she told us yo what the like he was just very like yo what the ████ like I don't know how I feel about it and then he was just like yo yeah

7:37 you're like ████ and then he started like really feeling like kind of like am I gay he felt like like he was used or not used but he just felt like very like lied to I think that's what ████ him up but he's not going into a relationship bruh but the fact that but the fact that you're the fact that you're like trying to like have sex with a girl and then you find out that well technically it's not really a but but the thing is that he didn't even know yeah because because to her he didn't even know she was a trans woman yeah yeah yeah but that's the thing that's him being transphobic that's that's the argument here right because why is the triple but that's what you like if you don't like what you like that's a preference I think what's wrong with him not liking what he likes yeah so so I think the question is the question is should trans people so so access granted so access

8:29 correct access granted access granted the question is should trans people ex like disclose disclose before they get laid and is that the moral right or wrong that's that's a question I think you're trying to I think that's what I'm trying to say and yeah I think it works uh it's a double-edged start for both sides number one right yeah uh from his point of view it's like she didn't even have to tell him right she could just she don't have to tell him yeah you know what I'm saying that's true and that's it and so if you bust it or not it's like he don't if he never knew that's it if she wants to tell him then she needs to understand that we're in a more sensitive time than what his ideal is all in the same way that's like you're absolutely right that would be

9:19 transphobic or like even to be like oh no I don't have sex with a transgender woman like that I can understand how that's viewed as transphobic right I just think that we're in that time of transition where people are learning these things and finally understanding things like terminology uh what you identify with it like the world society is becoming sensitive to these things where like a year ago two years ago it would be a lot more close-minded you know what I'm saying I mean I just think you have to be sensitive to the times is all you can't just be like hey we had sex and it was great but guess what I used to be a man like that's gonna ████ a dude up you know in today's time I have one yeah if you were at the club and you met a shorty and you ████ what would you like would you like them to tell you or would you just be like I don't want to know well here's the thing right if he did if he had no idea I'm asking you I know I'm saying if I had no idea

10:09 then it's all good then you've later found out but then again it's like but you later found out would you be a little like it's like the ignorance Bliss yeah right 100. I understand but if you find out right you wouldn't you be like um how do I feel about this and I'll be honest like she looks like a lady I would I would like okay I I would like for at least to be like hey by the way you know I'm trying for me to be like you know what ████ it you know what I mean let me give me the truth you would like that but at the same time what happens when that person is like hey by the way I gotta let you know on this and then you're like oh dude but it's enough but it's a normal human reaction for me to be like let me figure let me process this too yeah right give me give me some normalcy for me to be like yo this is new to me let me figure

10:59 out what to do here because that's normal too I think it's both though I mean like there's your books yeah I think like both like arguments can be valid to like a certain extent but the thing is is that like if your friend saw her as a woman and thought that she was a woman and that was like initial like you know that's essentially like how she feels and who she identifies with and like she actually went through the means of transitioning and changing her body and doing surgeries and stuff like that only to be just the mean to the point of like no you're a male first you know it's kind of like you're telling somebody who feels like they're a woman who identifies as a woman saying you're not a woman at all got you and who looks like a banging ass don't get me wrong she's ████ hot if I was I would have been like I don't want to know yeah if you creeping keep it on alone

11:54 shut up shut up lady that's what she should have done this is what she should have done she should have been like this you know what I mean she shouldn't have said ████ yeah she should have said you know if if he was coming onto it and if things were mutually and consensually like you know maybe at the club it's all dark maybe it's like starting to like make out feel each other's Goods show him you know if I'm her show him that I got a vagina if he's playing get him hard once she's jacking my bill hey by the way I used to be a man I'm in transition but I know that you're hard and you're down for this and I have a vagina you cool that's Rocky water you got a vagina you want to do this but that again as a trans woman though I'm sure in her mind there's like the sense of always in the back of her head like like he won't hook up with me not even that but like the violence part because that's a real issue too right it's ████ me up after

12:44 no but she might ████ him up or the feeling of like why do I have to keep reliving this stuff but I think I think it's both okay like if the dude doesn't feel necessarily comfortable with being a trans woman or or or not preferring a trans woman that's his right too but it's also like I don't know is it okay for her I'm still more like why did he tell why did she tell me why did you come unless she wanted more in the relationship is all you know what I'm saying because if it's like if it was just a hookup I'd be like ████ it don't even mention right so that's a valid point so like what if she never said anything and they've been dating for three years I'd be pissed any line of relationship is is annoying yeah yeah if you want to continue the journey I need to know the truth you know what I mean because then that would be the question of like could you guys have kids right or like what's important

13:36 between the two I don't know I think I just think it's like a little uh Rocky situation where it's like you know she has a the thing about like she has a right to like not say anything but it's like when did I lose my right to get upset about it how do we give that right but then we lose ours well here's the thing have the right to be upset too you can you can yes right so like but if you identify as a straight male and you fell in love with a woman and she identifies as a woman how is that being gay no because it's his definition of male and female is not the same as yours right so then if his definition is not the same that doesn't make him transphobic that makes it like hey I'm trying to date a birth female that's like religion so I get that if if he likes strawberry ice cream don't you know don't make him get yeah they'll give you vanilla I want ice cream that's the that's the argument

14:30 strawberry dye on it but that's that's the thing though he'd even ████ I get what you say I hear yeah and I I think you're right and then it's like both parties are right that's why I'm very like that's why his topic to me is very interesting because I was trying to tell him like well did you have fun yeah because she looks hot and if you don't like it give me the number right now there's a lot of straight guys that would hit it a lot of straight guys yes she looks hotter than a lot of women yeah if she would have told me if I could yeah by the way I'm trans I'd be like so it's like my thing but I hear what you're saying I understand what you're saying so that's why it's a really weird situation and I don't understand I don't know what to tell him so I was like oh that's why it's talking to me what's the update how's he feeling about it he he's like right now they're yeah they're ████ getting married no he he's still

15:20 like really bothered by it and he's more Angry he's angry he's angry he's more like he's like what the like like he wanted he told me which made sense to me he said but give me the right to say yes or no yeah that's all I want give me the option to be like hey dude like if that's the case give me the information and let me make a human decision to be like yeah I'm feeling it it's cool like but I'm not feeling that I'm not comfortable with that yeah let him be have the right to say no I'm not comfortable best case scenario that's like starting off like any kind of relationship if it's just a hookup I guess the rules are of Engagement are a little bit different so he says that yeah it's the line that ████ him up right but let's say they wanted to even pursue a relationship it's like okay well you already started with a lack of transparency trust and respect of giving somebody the option of but is that right is that right I don't know if it's the

16:11 thing I don't know if it's right I think it's all I mean you know if I were I don't know if that's the right question if it's right or not I think yeah I think it's just it's really gray area right because if she fully transitioned as a female then she is solely a female right I think like so like that's one side of the argument right and then the other side is like your friend is questioning now his sexuality right because the fact that he fell for a person who he felt like was a full-on female but wasn't a full-on female in his definition right but like she sees herself as a female then at this point it's like well you were attracted to me because you thought that I was a female right like your assumption right like because I am a female right and then now that you're mad at me because I transitioned to be the person who I've always felt like I was and so I was like why do I always have to tell you as a

17:02 straight person like you someone who died identifies as a straight like you're also dating a female so that makes you also straight so it's kind of like that's like why why are you entitled for me to tell you that information but then but then but then also the other part of it too okay so what could what if he wants to have a kid right right so then at that point then you would have the discussion do you feel like he was questioning his sexuality or was it just was it more of the the being upfront with well yeah I think I think because this is a new thing and he was put in like a situation where now he's thinking like well what is this is this what I'm trying he's trying to figure out what what did I just do did I do something gay did I do something normal so it is what am I putting where do I put myself in so what category am I and that ████ him up and he's like and that's ████ up that now I have to live like that I have to live

17:53 with figuring out what happened but you don't have his perception is his reality and the reality that was presented to him was a woman so I don't think he's gay in that perception I think to a certain I'm still more like why did why did women tell him is all that's what I'm still working I think that's the main concern is it like should people disclose or not disclose before hooking up yeah that is because that's where I'm torn on because like is it and for what reason right because like I said for a relationship I would want people to disclose most things yeah right but for a hookup I'm totally fine if if if it was a hookup and I was going in for just physical and I thought they were beautiful and I just wanted to do it and afterwards I found out that they're born a man I'm like well that was a good lay yeah you know what I mean

18:43 it doesn't ████ with me but I can understand how it can ████ with someone else because not everyone has the same definition of reality yeah his idea of male and female and who he's supposed to have sex with maybe it goes against his religion or whatever we have to consider all those things because for me I might be okay but for his buddy like that's what he's going through right now or or take like trans out of the picture imagine like you like meet somebody at the bar you hook up and stuff like that and then after you're done having sex they like put on their wedding ring they're like oh that was sick so we're talking about we're talking about the emotional connection opposed to the physical connections I think that's the debate just to even like do that it's like would you that's true the knowledge alone the thing that like puts you in kind of like that slight pair because you still felt good and you hooked up I would ask him I guess that question instead of trying to give him advice I mean this is poor guy he's gonna watch this and he's like ████ why did you have to tell the question I was like what was

19:34 your intention for a physical attraction or for an emotional connection no for sure it was a ████ for sure he's hooking up it's easier to I guess dismiss in that way but but but I think that's the world that we're living in now and it was just one of those things where I was like ████ dude I don't know what to do here and I don't know what's right or wrong because I'm also with the whole thing I was like dude it was to me it was yeah I was a girl you hooked up with like you know but at the same time I can understand what he's questioning what he's going through with that and I thought that was pretty ████ up that you know he has to live with that and of him trying to figure things out like you know like it's almost like he was he was rushed into it instead of like he was presented yeah so he was if he asked if he was asked like um hey would you like to sleep with me because you know so I'm I'm actually not born whatever and they had that conversation he was still like you know what let's ████ roll then he his mind

20:25 is more prepared exactly so I think that's what he was more angry about he wants the lack of choice yeah he wants the fact that he wants to have a choice to be like yes or no that's all I feel like it's it's those cases where it really varies between like different like transgender people where whether they want to disclose it or not like some will some will probably do it and some probably will never do it right because they don't identify as that so do you think that's ████ up or do you think that's okay I think it's their choice I think it's the context again if you're like hooking up that's different if you're like if I'm like swiping on you on hinge looking for love in a relationship and children and you don't disclose that stuff that's the context you know what I mean like yeah but when I remember when I was out here on Twitter like I have a Twitter I mean ████ a Tinder yeah but I remember the girls would be

21:15 straight up and be like oh by the way I just let you know I'm trans woman I'm like oh ████ yeah well I'll see you later playing but not but you know it was one of those things all right but you appreciate that too sir yes and I did though I did appreciate I was like yo because I was you're like oh thank you for giving me the choice yeah right I didn't ████ type this but I yeah so it was one of those things where I was like hey she ████ let me know I had the right to say yes or no you know let us know in the comments what you yeah what do you guys think but if you're gonna be discriminatory don't say that foreign

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