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How These Scientists Mysteriously Disappeared

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0:01 Factory resetting both phones and leaving them there. Come on. >> Do you think she knew she was going to die and she was like, "I have to erase all my porn." >> And then run away. >> I feel [laughter] like I'm dying. I got to erase my porn. Erase my porn, hurry. >> All right, have you guys, by any chance, heard about this thing where really important scientists are either going missing or mysteriously dying? >> Yeah. >> Um not like not like a a bunch in a short period of time, but >> over the course of like the last century, I've heard of that. >> Okay. So so here's what makes it kind of tie together is that it Okay, so whatever. If scientists are dying, whatever. Maybe there's a a stat that shows that that's normal, right? But even then, you got these guys who are all um in some way tied into either nuclear or aerospace uh

0:52 >> technologies. >> specific profession, yeah. >> technological >> So I'm going to go just to put you up to date, I'm going to go over the 10. These were like the big 10. And uh after I tell you which 10 these are, there there's a new 11th that just popped up. But we're going to go over the 10 scientists that are missing, uh who they were, what they were doing, and how they went missing or died. And you And then you tell me at the end of it if you think it's getting fishy or not. >> Yeah. >> All right, so here we go. >> Seiko watches. >> Oh, god damn. There's nothing I can do about that. We're um we're we're starting at Neil McCaslin, retired Air Force major general, held senior roles at the Pentagon. Okay. So uh disappeared February 27th. There's been no trace of him since. His phone, prescription glasses, and wearable devices were found at home, but hiking boots, wallet, and a .38 caliber

1:42 were reported missing. >> That's weird. Like, why would you leave the house without your glasses and your phone? >> Yeah, but your gun. >> But you have your gun. >> Can't even aim without your glasses. >> Crazy. >> All right, so we'll speed through these just cuz these are all like crazy. >> Major general's are high, too, by the way. >> That's really high? >> Really high, yeah. >> Isn't that right, below general? >> No, it's a major general. It's the second rank of general. So, he's a two-star general. >> Oh. >> Almost kind of where you were at before you retired, huh? >> Uh like where I was almost there. Like I was up for promotion, but then that I was like, "I'm going to I'm going to leave while I'm hot." >> [laughter] >> While you're hot. >> Yeah, yeah. >> So, Monica Yasinto Reza, a 60-year-old aerospace engineer, co-creator of a nickel-based alloy for rocket engines, disappeared June 22 while hiking with a friend in Angeles National >> Oh, they're all hikers. They're a bunch of ████ hikers, man. >> So, is this more of like a hiking epidemic?

2:32 >> You can get lost while hiking. >> [laughter] >> Her friend was about 30 ft ahead, told police he turned around to check on her, and she smiled and waved, indicating she was doing fine. The friend continued back The friend turned back to continue hiking, and when he looked back again moments later, she was gone. >> What if he killed her? >> Dude, he must have gotten paid a nice sum. Steven Garcia, a government contractor with ties to Kansas City National Security Campus, disappeared August 28. The 48-year-old was last seen leaving his home in Albuquerque around 9:00 a.m. He was seen on surveillance footage walking away on foot while carrying a handgun. He left behind his phone, wallet, keys, and car, and has not been seen since. >> Wait, are these guys uh all military or or what are they >> are all specifically government contracted uh scientists. They all work in the in the government sector. >> probably all have top-secret clearances. >> They all have clearances for like

3:23 >> special projects. >> Yeah, exactly. >> What's crazy is all of these guys, and to me, I'm like, this is a no-brainer. If I was in a really bad situation, my bare min at the minute, I'm going to grab my gun. My bare minimum is also gun and phone. But, they all left without their phone. So, that makes me feel like they probably got kidnapped or some ████ >> Plus, as a big-time glasses guy, yeah, I can't really go anywhere without >> Yeah. >> I can't. >> So, two out of the three that we spoke about right now le- uh were were wandering with a gun? >> I guess so. I guess so. >> No phone. >> But especially this guy. This guy left with a gun, but no phone. Like Like when I got robbed, the first thing they left with was gun and phone, so I could have nine uh not 911, 911. I got I could have the cops on the phone [laughter] while in case I protect my life. >> have 911. >> What if they know something about tech

4:13 that we don't know, and that's why they're like, "I'm off the grid." >> Well, they definitely do. >> Let me just say by on the 11th one, it's going to be pretty ████ nuts. >> Okay. >> But so we're on Carl Grillmair, a California Institute of Technology astrophysicist known for his work on exoplanets and discovery of water on distant worlds was shot and killed outside his California home. So apparently it says like a 29-year-old suspect in uh had he's the one who murdered him, who was apparently seen trespassing on his property weeks leading up to the shooting. So this guy came back and killed him. >> So he cased him out, then came back, shot him on his front lawn. >> Yeah. >> Also, notice this isn't like a decade of information on people. This is all within a short period of time. >> Yeah, last two years. So um yeah, so he's charged with that guy was charged with the murder as well as carjacking and burglary in separate

5:03 incidents. Um So that'd be funny if like all all nine of these are like totally like corrupt, but this one's just a normal carjacking. >> [snorts] >> That'd be sick. >> I mean, it depends on where he lives. >> So then Nuno Loureiro, MIT physicist and director of University Plasma Science and Fusion, shot at his home in Brookline, Massachusetts. Uh he was the leading figure in fusion energy research, studying plasma physics, and working on tech aimed at harnessing near limitless clean energy. >> [laughter] >> That already sounds bad. Anything that beneficial, you're dead, dude. >> Yep. >> Authorities later linked his killing to a suspect connected to a separate mass shooting at Brown University days earlier. Investigators said the sub the suspect who had previously attended university with Loureiro in Portugal died by suicide after the attacks,

5:53 effectively closing the case. >> That's crazy. These guys just get straight up shot at their home. >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Frank Maywald, long-time engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab, died uh July 4th. Uh the only widely available public record of Maywald's death is a brief online obituary. No cause of death has been publicly disclosed. So in this one, they don't even know what happened to him. >> Melissa Cassias >> I fell down the stairs. >> But he was doing other other other ████ right? He was doing Yeah. >> His work focused on building instruments capable of detecting chemical signatures, including water, organic molecules, and other indicators scientists use to assess whether environments beyond Earth could >> That's the second guy that found water on another planet that died. >> So interesting. >> Melissa Cassias, administrative employee with security clearance at Los Alamos National Laboratory, uh disappeared June 26th. Walking alone alongside of road, just

6:44 disappeared. Her niece said earlier that day uh Cassias had picked up a sandwich and dropped it off for her daughter. When family members returned home, they found her car, purse, keys, and both her personal and work-issued phones inside. The phones had been factory reset, wiping recent data and communications. >> god. >> Come [laughter] on, man. >> Crazy. So they kidnapped her, reset her phone. >> Both phones? >> And then they left all her belongings there. >> Factory resetting both phones and leaving them there. Come on. >> Do you think she knew she was going to die and she was like, I have to erase all my porn and then run away? >> [laughter] >> I feel like I'm dying. I got to erase my porn. Erase my porn, hurry. >> Family members have strongly pushed back on the idea that she left voluntarily. They said she's been getting ready to care for her mother during upcoming surgery. So, I mean that doesn't have much evidence of being self-inflicted. >> a lot of these are just walking alone on the sidewalk. Who the ████ does that

7:36 these days? Who walks alone on the just walking alone, no shoes on the sidewalk, no phone? I don't know anybody that does that. >> Uh you got me well at first I was going to be like I mean people walk all the time, but you got me with the no shoes, no phone. >> walking in the neighborhood, yeah. But they're like this person's walking on the street to go give a sandwich to their kid or some ████ >> Yeah. And no like she has two phones and not neither phone's with her. And they both got factory reset and left behind. Like not even factory reset and stolen. >> Yeah, and in places like Texas and New Mexico, they really don't walk over there. >> That's so weird. >> Yeah. >> And doesn't that mean that if you're able to factory reset a phone that's not yours, you were able to access it? You have to like be able to put the code in to even do anything. >> Or just use their face. >> After they're dead? >> Yeah. >> Dead face, yeah. Anthony Chavez, a retired Los Alamos National Lab employee, another Los >> like this guy for some reason.

8:26 >> You don't like Anthony? Oh yeah, okay. [laughter] Last seen around May 4 when authorities oh ████ when authorities and family members searched the 78-year-old's home, they found his wallet, keys, and other items left behind inside. His car was locked in the driveway and there were no signs of forced entry or a struggle. Chavez worked for decades at Los Alamos National Lab before retiring in 2017 placing him within the same northern Mexico defense hub as others who also disappeared. >> What if like the leaving the keys and the phone behind is like their industry signal to other people, hey you know how that guy disappeared? It's going to be you too. >> Totally. Totally. >> Yeah. >> Like they're like that's they already know that. >> Yeah, it's like the people when they die like this, you know why they die like this. >> It's a clean cut, too. >> It's like we can disappear you in in plain sight. >> Like easy. >> So he's a part of a group that also

9:18 disappeared and they work together at Los Alamos. >> Yeah, Los Alamos, yeah. Jonas Thom Jason Thomas and associate director of chem biology at pharmaceutical company Novartis went missing December 25, found dead on March 17. Thomas was reported missing after leaving his home in Wakefield late at night surveillance footage capturing him walking near train tracks. >> That's what I mean. Like who the ████ just walks in the middle of the night and ████ >> His phone and wallet left at home. >> But all of these have surveillance of people just walking. That's like the last thing that they saw. >> Yeah. >> That is weird. >> That's weird. So weird. >> And 3 months later his body was recovered from the lake after the ice thawed. Was it a mob hit? >> [laughter] >> Officials said no foul play was suspected, though the cause and manner of death have not been publicly disclosed. So those are your 10 that the

10:09 internet was like focusing on heavily in the past few weeks. >> I think they're part-time gangbangers. >> Oh yeah, you think they're just like >> Science by day, thuggin' by night. >> And they're especially a 78-year-old. >> [laughter] >> You know how those go. So there was an 11th one that popped up. It was a 34-year-old scientist who apparently had died from a self-inflicted gunshot to the head. But this is one of those situations where this girl Amy Escheridge >> But it was shot from here? >> Yeah. >> Or he hung himself first. >> With his left hand? >> He hung himself and shot himself after he died. >> She was a person who you know like when people do this where they they kind of like similar to um the girl that was one of the whistleblowers for Epstein. You know how she was saying, "Hey, they're going to come get me. They're going to kill me. I'm not suicidal. I don't I'm not going

10:59 to do this to myself. If it happens, it's not me." She was doing the same exact thing. She was a scientist who was apparently she And this is not like just some random scientist. She's like from a line of like a lineage of scientists. Her father like owned this company, was a scientist, and now she was in charge of developing anti-gravity technology. >> Oh my god, yeah, that sounds amazing. She's going to die for sure. >> And it was to be applied into space travel and energy production. >> So you think they're just stealing the tech and killing them off so that they could just make it theirs? >> Well, I mean we'll we'll get to that, but so she was planning to present a she was planning planning to do some presentation and almost like she was about to make it open-source for everyone because she knew they were going to come kill her. >> These people need to stop almost doing ████ and just do it. Just release it, bro. >> They need a kill switch. Stop talking

11:50 about it. But they're not street smart, that's why. >> Yeah. >> And then on the flip side, you have someone who like pushes vaccines like a ████ and he's totally alive, not in jail. Not in jail. >> You know, it's just crazy. >> than ever. >> Yeah, more alive than ████ ever. [laughter] It's like if if Fauci was actually doing good ████ he'd be dead, too. [laughter] >> Dude, yeah. It's crazy. >> So she like one of the things she said was that I need to disclose soon. The threats are getting more aggressive. This has been going on like four or five years. And over the past two months it's been escalating, more aggressive, more invasive, digging through my underwear drawer, and sexual threats. Yeah, that's one of the last things she was saying about it. And then gunshots to the head. >> Kind of makes me think like how beefed up is Elon's security? >> I think it's pretty beefy. >> So like to answer your question, so the White House has now declared that

12:42 they're going into like a large-scale investigation onto whether or not these are connected. They're going to individually look at all of them. And And uh one of the things that they feel like one of the things they have actually said is that it could be um a very uh >> The part-time gangbangers that Joe's talking about? >> Yeah. >> They're all watching, all of them. >> It's um it's a very coordinated effort of espionage. Um and counterintelligence. They Some yeah, someone could be killing them to take secrets or to, you know, use their identity to get clearance. They don't know yet, but at least it's being taken seriously enough that another branch of the White House is looking into it so that another branch can tell them shush. >> Like it could be 10 separate cases of espionage or one group attacking all 10 people. >> Who knows? I guess it could be either, but uh if it is espionage at all, let's

13:34 just ask Tulsi. She's the director of intelligence. >> Yeah, she'll tell us. She should know everything. >> Yeah, uh Bart's going to text right now, and then we'll do a follow-up episode when she responds. >> See you guys next time.

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