0:00 All right, this is a question for Jason and for Will. Would you rather have your material stolen by a huge famous comedian who ends up like prolonging his career on your stolen material or have your jokes stolen by a guy who's lesser known than you and that helps him propel past you? >> Oh, man. >> Like an OG or a new guy? >> Probably like an OG, probably. >> You'd prefer to be like >> Yeah, ████ it. It's fine. Actually, [laughter] yeah. Cuz if you knew guy you steal the stuff, what's going on? >> You just >> and then you're like, "Oh, you you know what I mean?" And then at least you you know, well, cuz at least an OG does it, you're kind of like, "Oh, okay. Well, he stole it, but that's okay. He likes it." >> And it's like your best material and he took all of it. >> How long of it? >> Uh he took an hour. >> Oh, my god. And he's he's murdering with
0:50 it and it's harder than you've ever heard. >> And he's killing it. And he didn't even change the jokes to be Mexican and he's not even Asian. He's just like he's saying them verbatim and he's and he's killing it still. >> Murdering. Yeah, he's like a Mexican comedian and he goes, "You know what it's like being Chinese?" >> [laughter] >> And he's doing all like everything. He's like, "You know, uh I don't like guns, but I have them." And he's doing it and he's doing them bad, but they're killing it, you know what I mean? >> Well, I'm going to raise in Taiwan. >> Yeah, you ever had a mom who cut you fruit? Like [laughter] that. He's black now? >> Black, yeah. >> I was met black and Mexican. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> That that was good. >> What would you do? What would you want to do? >> I do Jason's >> jokes all the time. >> And he's >> [laughter] >> stealing your >> I think I already do it. >> You know what? He's already stealing your jokes. >> He's actually not lying. >> He steals your jokes. >> Not the No, no, no, no. >> You know what's funny cuz he opens for
1:41 you, right? What if he takes your set and does it >> [laughter] >> Before me? >> Oh. Before you do it. >> I do an hour. >> Yeah. >> I'm from Taiwan. >> And he just does your ████ set. >> Dude, one of the funniest things I've ever heard of when I was working at UCB back in the day is this guy named Matt Besser. He would go to open mic nights. >> I remember that guy. >> Yeah, he would go to open mic nights and he would sit there and memorize and write down a guy's set and then he would get up after them and do it on like a note card. The exact same as a gag? Just as Of course as a gag, yeah. Just to ████ with And then the guy would sit there and stew. He's like, "You just stole all my material." It's like it's He's obviously stealing your material. He went after you. Directly after you. >> [laughter] >> So ████ funny. >> He's really funny. He's pissed off. >> Yeah, this guy's fuming. He wouldn't take it as a bit cuz he you know open mic night open micers are a lot different. >> Yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah, they're very
2:32 They're overthinking, too. Yeah. Okay. You'd rather have an OG steal your stuff, too? >> Yeah, I mean I feel like it's less like well, what are you going to do with Kevin Hart? >> Uh-huh. >> Like kind of like, you know, if it's someone else below you, I feel like you'd be get more mad. >> Oh, yeah. Cuz then they basically beat you I with your own stuff, huh? >> But also it's like if you're going to steal stuff like coming up and stealing that much stuff, it's like were you going to make it though? If you do if cuz if you got to steal a whole hour of it, you know, or >> I mean Robin Williams was the most famous joke stealer ever, right? >> Yeah. Apparently Apparently, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Yeah, sometimes he would have to just send money to people that found out that he stole their jokes. >> Cuz he would He was a stream of consciousness comedian as you I'm everyone knows, but so he would kind of I think dip into other people's material without like being personally aware of it. >> an AI, basically.
3:22 >> afterward he would kind of go, "Oh, f███." >> Yeah, he's like, "God damn it." >> Yeah, I don't think he was like intentionally doing it. >> Yeah, but he's just like going and then he sometimes he doesn't know like where he heard or whatever and it's just inspiration. I see. >> They used to call him Robin Menstilia. >> [laughter] >> Sick. >> I know where you got that. I know where you got that. >> It happens a lot in the black community. >> Oh, really? Like a lot of black comics they they like they Oh my god, this guy stole this joke or whatever. >> What else do they steal? >> [laughter] >> Sick. >> But also I feel like if if you can steal a joke, it's Like, you're Like, it shouldn't be that like easy to steal. >> Well, some premises are the ████ same. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, there's just some things that you can't like parallel thinking is going to work for some simple things. Of course. >> Especially for today, there's AI and there's so much comedy going on. Like, who stole what first? I feel like everything is out there.
4:13 I feel like everything is out there already. >> All right, how would you feel if you were at a show and some guy stole your crowd work by planting a crowd person to say the same thing that guy did in your clip? >> I'll That's fine. Cuz >> [laughter] >> I I I didn't cuz the crowd work any crowd work like uh people post the crowd work is like just like I hope people cuz I don't even give a ████ like about the crowd work. >> Oh, you don't even You're not You're not proud of your crowd work moments? >> No. >> Nobody cares about crowd work. >> I don't give a ████ It's like it's fine. Like, as long as it's funny and it's something, people go, "Oh, I kind of like his energy." And you come and then I have bits that I work on. >> Okay. What if a guy decides he wants to use Jason Cheny as his comedy name, but he ████ sucks? >> [gasps] >> And it's messing with SEO. And you guys kind of look similar. >> I I have him open for me. >> [laughter] >> And I'm the better one.
5:03 >> Hey, that's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Opening for Jason Cheny Jason Cheny. >> Cheny and Jason Cheny tour. >> Have you expe- Will, have you experienced anybody stealing anything from you yet? >> I mean, my ████ is very like My name is Pepper. >> [laughter] >> It's so unique to you that it kind of hard My dad does a joke. >> My dad ████ his employees. >> Yeah, it's kind of >> [laughter] >> It's really specific. >> I'd be impressed, though. >> Yeah. >> Right. But, you know how like sometimes people will just change the proper nouns? They'll like have the same story. >> My name is Saul. That'd be crazy. [laughter] Lil Saul. That'd be pretty crazy. No, I don't think of anyone And plus, I don't think any of my jokes are like like that where like, "Oh my god." >> They're not that stealable. >> I had to steal that ████ >> Wait, let me ask you this. If I start saying your jokes and changing a little bit, >> [laughter] >> how much of it like when would you be
5:53 like, "Whoa, bro, what the ████ was that?" >> Mhm. Um if you start saying pepper and stuff. >> No, no, no, no, no. >> [laughter] >> I'm taking one of your stories, but I'm like changing a little bit. Like I change the name and kind of like the scene. >> Yeah. >> Like and then and then how long would you >> Wait. >> Yeah, until you're like, "Bro, what the ████ is that?" If I steal 3 minutes of it, but then it's so similar, but not really, you know? >> Yeah. Like my mom owned a eyebrow threading place and kept ████ all the guys that worked there. >> I probably would wait like 5 minutes. >> 5 [laughter] minutes? >> Stupid. Oh, and the first time you hear it? Cuz I only I'm I have very little material I'm I need that ████ >> No, cuz I'm like I was thinking maybe it would be like first time you hear it, um it's like he like does like a 10% steal and you're like, "Hmm, that's kind of familiar, but I'll let him I'll let him be creative with it. I don't know what he's running with it." Next show you guys do, now
6:43 it's like 30% and you're like, "Wait, what the f███?" It's getting closer and closer. And then maybe the Like I was thinking like what at what percentage do you confront him? >> Um maybe the second time I heard it. >> Really? So even if it's just a like a little bit more now, you're like, "Yo." >> he's not going to be like, you know, I don't I don't know if it's chill, but like, "What's that from?" >> Even though he's your bud, you stayed at his house all the time? You owe him 3 minutes, dude. You stayed at his house for ████ free. >> That's true. Okay, you get these 3 minutes, but >> No more than three No more than 3 minutes. >> All right, let's say let's say Will Pepper embarks on his solo tour that he's about to do and he gets so ████ huge off it. >> Uh-huh. >> [snorts] >> And then uh you get a call from his agent asking if you'll open for him >> Yeah. >> when he gets back. >> I hope >> not even personally calling you, his agent is. >> Oh, his agent? [laughter] Uh no, no, okay. He's his agent is calling me? >> Yeah. >> I'll be like, "Uh thank you. Let me I would love to I thank you for the opportunity.
7:33 Um do you mind giving me just today to think about it?" I'm going to call him immediately. >> [laughter] >> And bro, I'll go, "Bro, what the ████ was that?" "What the ████ do you mean you you have your agent >> I was like, "No, I didn't I told him not to call you. I told him I'll call you later and then they You know how managers are, they do >> What if he call What if you go Let me Can I have a day to think about it? I say, "Yeah, of course." You hang up, right? You call him, his agent picks up. "Yo, what the ████ Why are you calling Mr. [laughter] Pepper?" >> I'm going to his house. I'm canceling my shows on the weekend. I'm going [laughter] to over to his house. >> What about this? >> What the ████ was that? >> He opens for you. >> Okay. >> After your show, a Netflix exec comes up to you and he's like, "I want to get that kid a sitcom." >> I go like that. Uh you know what? Like he actually touches kids. He's crazy. [laughter] No, I'm kidding. No, I'll be like that's That's great. [laughter] >> That's great. Are you just going like
8:24 this? Like that's great. I'm so happy for him. >> No, I I think um >> Really happy for my friend. >> Yeah. >> I think that because he owes me so much >> [laughter] >> that he's going to be like, "Oh, you know what I mean?" >> Oh, he won't let you. >> do a thing together. No, I'm kidding. I really think that >> Come be my Brad Garrett. >> Right. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah. I'll go I I think it doesn't matter because um I really feel like cuz I'm doing some stuff now like some projects that I don't think I would be able to do without him. >> Aw, that's sweet. That's awesome. That's actually super cute. >> And so but if he's like all And then I feel like if he wouldn't want me at a thing, I I'm probably adding no value to the thing. But you know what? I would still expect him to have me on the project just to get a check. >> But what if he's like what if he's like, "Sorry, we need authentic my Asian thing, not yours."
9:14 >> Oh. >> The the casting they won't let us cuz it's like going to be against community. >> Okay, then I'll go like, "Is there anything I could do like on the back end?" >> The back? >> Authentically, you can get me a ████ coffee. >> [laughter] >> Vietnamese coffee. >> On the back end, yeah. You can go fill up the ████ coffee machine. >> You can go take my car but don't ████ scratch it. [laughter] And get it washed, too. Get it washed, too. No wax, no wax. >> That's a funny dynamic. Like what if what if Netflix did approach you guys and they're like, "Man, we love this dynamic, you two. We want to make a show, a sitcom of you guys, but we just want to switch it around a little and we love him. We You know You like Will is the guy and we want you to be his little Vietnamese sidekick. Can you play Vietnamese?" >> I'm going to I'm going to go cry >> [laughter] >> for for like an hour and then when he comes home, I'm going to take his pants off and ████ him in the ass. >> [laughter]
10:04 >> Nice. >> And then I go, "Don't worry, I'm going to be a professional onset." >> That's it. >> [laughter] >> That's like uh you know that movie with Danny McBride, This Is the End? >> Yes. >> And when they got when they got uh Channing Tatum to be like his ████ or whatever, he said that >> He's basically like a ████ character? >> Yeah, he's a ████ character. He's Danny McBride's ████ He said he showed up to set that day and surprised him in the costume of his ████ costume in it in Danny McBride's trailer and just like grabbed him and threw him in the bed and started like ████ wrestling him. And just just to set the tone and then he's like, "All right, now we're good. Now we can do the movie." >> Yeah, yeah. >> Oh my god. >> That's what you're saying, right? >> Yes, yes, yes. >> I get it. >> I think it >> Establish dominance. No, but also honestly, I know this is boring, but like if if somebody does give him a thing, it wasn't for me anyways. If they was looking for that, you can't force anything. Like, yeah, I'll be sad that I didn't get my thing, but that was for him and >> You're running for ████ mayor right
10:54 now. >> Oh okay, so you're you're really willing [laughter] to >> I said it was boring. I prefaced >> No, no, no, you know you're running for mayor. I know how comedians are. Don't ████ try to >> What if it went so far as to like they like both of you and they just go, "But like imagine if Will also had your jokes. So you just don't exist now and you're >> Okay, what do I do? What am I doing on the >> You're going, "It should have been me." >> Okay, yeah. >> want you to They want you to keep doing standup and they'll just keep taking material and feeding it to his show. >> [laughter] >> Um then I go, "Can I just do standup and you do your show without [laughter] my thing?" >> But but in but in his sitcom he plays the role of Jason Cheny. >> They're like, "We love your standup, but we love when he does it." >> They do a Nutty Professor thing where it's him playing twice. He's Jason Chenny and Will Pepper. >> [laughter] >> That sounds pretty funny. >> There's no There's no actual Jason Chenny. >> I'll produce it.
11:44 >> [laughter] >> How far would you go to support your friend? >> Or if they were like, "Hey, you know, I really like this dynamic, >> Uh-huh. >> but I see like the star here. >> Uh-huh. >> So, he's going to for sure make it big. >> Yeah. >> We need >> And [laughter] I'm a house plant? >> No, we need marketing. >> Okay. >> So, you can go do your you whatever you call the little stand up tour. At the [laughter] end at the end of your set >> Who's saying this, by the way? >> At the end of your little tour your little tour >> Uh at the end of your set go promote the the real show, please. >> [laughter] >> So, that's how you have to close every single time. >> And how much am I getting, though? >> Yeah. >> Um I don't know. You get like half of half half [laughter] of the set. >> Half of what he's making. >> You get whatever he sends you on Venmo. >> [laughter] >> Whatever he sends you. >> What if What if two They're like, "Oh my god, last night the cocktail party was so fun. Thank you for bringing your wife. She was so good. We want her to play his wife on the >> [laughter] >> And your daughter.
12:35 >> Your whole family, actually. >> [laughter] >> Where do I live right now? >> You're You're in You're in Vegas, but you're You fly back and forth, but you have to pay for your own flights. >> [laughter] >> That's a funny ass situation. >> ████ what is happening to my life? >> loved your wife. We We love her. You don't understand. Capital love. >> We got to see her next to Will Pepper. >> They're just They're just putting things together. They're packaging. Legos. >> Yeah. >> Bro, [laughter] would you be down? >> Do you get >> No, not for that, but like with You're three minutes ago. >> Would you like say, "Hey Jason, is it is it cool if your wife plays my wife on the show?" >> Like if we just make out a little bit. >> No, no, that's just weird. >> And even though you know he's visibly distraught by it, are you >> to be backstage watching. >> He has to watch. >> to pay you big money. >> to watch? >> Still in the coffee maker back backstage. >> Shaking. [laughter] >> He's shaking, yeah. >> 15 mil. >> 15 mil? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, 15 mil. >> For who?
13:25 >> For you. >> ████ off, 15 mil. >> 15 mil? >> One mil. This guy's complaining about This guy's complaining about gas earlier. >> Bro, that's really true. He wouldn't take it for 1 mil. >> 15 [laughter] mil? Crazy. >> Uh after taxes? >> After >> Sure, yeah. No, after tax that's a kind of a lot. >> Yeah, mil after taxes, yeah. >> And especially here, you save on the the income tax, state income tax. >> You know what I do want to say about him though? Like I don't want to Uh it's it's not cool to be disclosing somebody's financial situation and I'm not going to do it. >> it. >> Yeah. >> But >> He would turn down stuff that I'm like what But I appreciate that though. >> Yeah, yeah. Okay. >> You know what I mean? He would turn down things that I'm like, "Bro, what are you doing?" Like >> turning it down in in for the sake of loyalty? >> No, no, for the sake of uh
14:15 >> His image. >> His image His image and his value. >> Oh, his branding? >> Yeah, his branding and like that I do have because me if I was in his >> Because he's not Chinese. >> Dude, if they You [laughter] are not Chinese. >> asked me to play you and tape my ████ eyes, I would for a >> anything. I'll do ████ anything, dude. >> I'll ████ set myself on and my reputation >> What kind of stuff doesn't fit your brand that you said no to? >> I mean certain auditions and stuff I just don't feel like it's like >> Or like some people like uh like somebody will ask him to do like um >> Oh ████ sorry. >> Like uh >> [laughter] >> To who? >> I don't know. >> You're so nice, man. >> Oh ████ sorry. >> Uh like ask him for like um social media advice or like write jokes for them or whoever. And then um if if it was me, I would've been like, "Yeah, I'll ████ do it." >> Yeah. >> like, "Nah, I'm not doing >> by his principles. >> He's standing by his principles to like how much I would >> nice, Will.
15:05 >> I think that's good though. >> That's very nice, Will. >> I know, I just cuz I hate it too much. >> Oh, so you have to pay for the agony. >> If I'm doing it, I'm like, "F███, I don't want to do this." >> Like what's happening? This guy complained about gas >> But I also need money though. >> He complains about gas a lot. >> And [laughter] then on the way home >> [clears throat and cough] >> Yeah, yeah. I need I need money but the the pain of doing the work I'm like >> But I appreciate that. I feel like sometimes that's how you get paid more though. >> It is. It's good negotiating at least. >> Yeah, that's true. >> If they really want you, then they'll pay more. >> Wow. >> And then you know how good you are like in comparison relative to you know how good the other people are. So >> That's true. >> Yeah, I could see that. >> That's good. But anyway, 1 mil, yeah? >> 1 mil, [laughter] yeah. >> ████ ████ >> 1 mil to betray your friend. Okay, granted.
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