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The Roblox Problem is Just the Tip of the Iceberg

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0:00 [Music] Do you know what Roblox is? >> I think it's a game. >> Yep. >> I think kids chat on there and it's dangerous. >> Not just kids. >> Oh, you heard it was dangerous. What'd you hear about that? >> I don't I don't know that much about it. It's just there are a lot of predators on there apparently. >> Yes. You So you know about that? >> Yeah. Why do you know about that? >> Yeah. >> This is weird. >> No, it's not weird. I was just That's very good that you know >> that's all I know about. It's not I'm not going to say it's me. I'm not going to reveal the Predator. No, it's uh there there's So like people have been saying that for a while that there are like Cuz in every game that's online that that's kid-based, whether it's like I don't know, Club Penguin or or Habel or whatever, there's going to be people that are like knowing that it's full of kids, they're going to act like kids and they're going to get

0:50 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Exactly. Sick. And then um so for Roblox, there's these guys that um made it their duty to try to like expose these guys. >> So they'll like bait them in the same way that they do for, you know, like Chris Hansen and all that stuff. >> And um and then they would get all the information and they did it their due diligence with everything. They didn't do it the dirty way. They did it exactly right where you you take them out of the um the chat in Roblox to a different place and then you do the chat there that kind of like exposes them for what they're trying to do and then they get all the information and then they deliver it to the police. They do everything exactly that they're supposed to do >> and uh and they were doing it and they found so many people and they were sending it to Roblox. >> Seems like it's so easy. >> And Roblox wasn't banning these people. >> Wow. they were allowing them to stay on

1:40 the platform and then so like the guys that were doing it decided to all right well then we're we're going to make public YouTube videos covering this >> hopefully that will pressure Roblox to like take action and then uh Roblox did take action and started to ban them once these public videos came out but then um a strange turn happened where the guys that were doing these things to uh expose predators are the ones that got banned >> they got banned And that's sketch. >> But what if it's one of those things where Roblox is like working with the FBI on trying to find like who the big kahunas are? >> Exactly. >> And so like when these other people are like vigilante going into it, they're trying to be like like don't you're ruining something but we can't say or disclose anything cuz they're trying to like find a deeper web and that's why they're not banning them because they're trying to like get

2:30 >> you know they're doing the whole like FBI is playing like the the kids or whatever and trying >> I hope that's what it is. >> But what if they're not? I mean, >> oh, you're saying that like they there's like a >> a larger grooming organization >> maybe >> like that's their connection to get to >> or what if Roblox is just scared like, "Hey, we don't want to be known as the platform that can do that." >> Well, they're already known as that, though. >> Because here's the thing, right? At the end of the day, you are worried about your company and you're making so much money, you don't want to ruin nothing. So, you're just not going to say nothing cuz >> yeah, sure, it's 10 20 kids. I feel bad, but at the end of the day, I want to make my billions, so ████ it. >> And then maybe maybe on the I'm not backing it up. I don't know. But maybe on the Roblox end, they know this. And so the only >> public stance without ruining their entire business is being like, hey, we

3:20 already went to the FBI, but there's no point in there's no disclosing that to like the public, >> you know? They're probably just like, we know that there's an issue. We told the people who are supposed to do something about it, we're going to operate our company. >> Yeah. Like it's not our problem. Okay. >> You know what would make me feel safe as a parent? If Roblox was like, "We are free and we just if anyone we have zero tolerance and anyone that ████ like, you know, when you're like about to buy a pay-per-view or whatever, there's a ████ FBI warning like if you illegally stream this ████ we're going to pursue you to the highest degree." Oh, ████ These guys don't ████ around. That would be tight. If they're like, "We don't ████ around. You want to ████ with our kids? We're going to ████ sue you to oblivion." Like those Florida cops that that do those speeches in front of the guy Hancock. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I would like that. Then I'll be like, "You come at us. We're

4:10 going to come as much Roblox as you want. I don't care." >> Yeah. Versus I'm like, "Man, there's too many on there." I'm going to be like, "Ty, you can't be playing this s███." >> Yep. >> Yeah. That's weird, dude. >> Yeah. At least a disclaimer saying like, "We'll report you to the authorities if we want to ████ chop your balls off." >> Okay. that that too >> cuz I guess one of the things that they were saying uh I guess like Roblox itself was that oh you can't go around like using enttrapment tactics to like catch people on their platform cuz that's also illegal right like um of course it's nowhere near as bad of a of a crime as like you know trying to be a predator to a kid but like what they're doing is illegal but then these guys clap back and they're like but we're not doing that we're not ent trapping because we're not having those conversations inside of the platform. form, right? >> They're luring them out and then they do

5:00 it on Discord. >> I think entrament should be legal >> for that kind of stuff. >> Yeah, for sure. >> If you have if I if you have your baby running through Target butt naked and then you see some guy going, "Oh my god, don't focus on the butt naked baby. Focus on the guy that's getting all horny on the side." >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I I agree with the ends. I'm like a it's justify the means person too where like if you have to do something like gray to like take out something that's really bad. Yeah. But it's it's just kind of weird where like I'm sure what they also are considering is that if everybody's trying to do this then everybody's already talking inappropriately to everybody in hopes of getting inappropriate combo back. >> But isn't that online games anyways? Everyone's saying they're saying Nwords,

5:50 saying fwords. If it's kid to kid that whatever. But if it's like adult to kid, I I just think you're weird if you're trying to play with kids like this at all. >> All the videos we see of like those guys that go after >> that hit them up, they meet up in person. There's almost an unlimited amount of those videos. >> There's an unlimited amount >> because these guys will never stop. >> They'll never stop. I think there's more of them than people that wouldn't. Like >> I was watching this Tim Tim Tibo was on the Sean Ryan show and he's like the head of like a task force trying to get >> off of uh sorry >> sorry mark that they're trying to get CP off the internet and all that >> and they were showing a map of the United States. He was showing a map and of all the red dots of all the IP addresses that got pinged off >> and it the whole country is red. >> And he said and he said most of those people are one fathers.

6:42 >> What? >> Yes. You said most of them are fart. >> Dude, they even trade their family. >> Damn. >> I don't I don't like that. Just for the record, I don't like that stuff. >> No. Yeah, that's >> But But when you hear when you hear the stats, >> you have to like really seriously say that. >> When you hear the stats of like who gets abused, who it's happening to, >> you go realize like, oh, this is like an American problem. Like America's like with >> just American problem. >> Well, at least within the things that we can control in America. Like >> yeah, not like comparatively to other countries, but it's a bad >> the top buyers of CP are apparently American. Yeah. >> Well, the fact that it's it's happening in America, you know what I mean? And then dude, there's families and families that are trading off their kids. >> They're selling their kids off. >> Wait, why do you >> No, >> they sell their kids off to into

7:32 prostitution or whatever so they can get drugs, whatever. >> Yeah. I think we just have a unique style of that problem. um where it's harder to catch the criminal. >> But then other countries will have sex tourism where it's physical and obvious that this guy is there partaking in it. >> This one's hard because these people are like shadows. They're like they're just like you can't you have to trace them in such tricky ways. >> Like the freaks that try to like get 12-year-old prostitutes, but it's out in the open and and the country kind of knows. >> It's not like if you're going to Thailand or Philippines and it's there and you're like, you know, that's like that's their style of that problem. Our style is more technologic my kind of my kind of guy. >> I think that's the hardy old 38 got a 38 to 40 >> cuz if you think about it I think the I think what makes our >> so mature >> the American problem I think is unique because they have access to your kid.

8:22 >> Yeah. >> In in these Asian countries if you're just a regular kid you're probably not involved in that world. >> But here in America no kid is safe. >> Yeah that's true. That's true. >> Oh my god. Because other countries they they okay 15y old that's like a normal thing >> and they're holding other like immigrants too >> 14 in the Czech Republic. >> Like you may never see that world. You may never see that world your whole life if you live in a third world country. You just might not be part of it. But first world like you're you're just so adjacent to it. You're right next to that guy >> for anytime. >> Yeah. It could be our next door ████ neighbor. >> Yeah. And if it's online it could be literally nine out of 10 people in the lobby with your kid. You know how many like random news stories you get of like dudes that I we used to train with that we knew from back in the day and they they're on the news because they got popped with CP and you're like way like what and then you you read the article you're like third offense

9:12 bro you're like what dude three >> now you guys going to have to do background checks cuz some of these guys are probably need jiu-jitsu for the wrong reasons. >> No 100 just no matter what they're everywhere >> they're everywhere. You have to just keep your head on a swivel. you just have like closeted psychotic tendencies. It's easy to to like hide in this system. >> And and what's what's the actual punishment when you do get >> not bad enough >> 2 years, 3 years? >> Cuz I also think that might be a huge issue. >> ████ yeah. You need an electric chair of these ████ >> Yeah. If your consequences don't meet like the problem, then the problem persists, right? >> But the California changed that. They now uh prosecute them to the max. >> They ████ should, dude. >> In California, >> they're like six years. more. No longer >> six is the best we could do. >> We're hitting 20 years now. >> They ████ better, dude. >> Every letter. They better. They better.

10:02 They better. >> You can't vote now. >> Cuz I like I like it when you do the ultimate act and then they ████ don't they chemically melt your balls off? >> Chemical castration. >> That's kind of tight. >> They do that here >> in California. I don't know if it's California, but uh some states some California. >> Some states if you if you actually do the act then they're going to ████ melt your balls off, >> which is sick. But then your your pee pee still works. >> I mean the whole thing the whole inch >> it doesn't work but like like also it like sort of destroys your libido. >> So like you don't your sex drive is kind of like >> you become asexual. They should also melt your fingers off too cuz you can still >> Well, that's what I mean. Like like it's like it it feels I don't know if I'm misjudging this but I feel like a lot of the people that would hurt a child that way would hurt a child everywhere. So I don't believe that like just cuz your pee pee don't work that you're not going

10:53 to strength. And is it like is it like scarlet letter ████ you know? >> I think I would >> you put like a giant SA right here so that when you walk around people know be like >> that one. >> I wish that there was a way that like if it's confirmed that you do have that scarlet letter and it's legit and like everyone knows and it's you're not going to get the wrong guy. Vigilante justice is I'm for that ████ >> Yeah. >> Isn't that what the like registered sex offender thing is meant to be for that? >> You ever go on that? >> No. Yeah. Yeah, you just to warn people that that person's around, but you still can't go and do something about it. You know what I'm saying? >> But it's not even accurate because so many of those people are transient. So like the certain color dots will tell you that you can see that that's the last place they were recorded, but that's not where they live. >> They might live somewhere else. >> They might live somewhere. They might live nowhere. So then there's no way to like gauge, oh, you're not supposed to be within 400 ft of a school. Like it

11:43 doesn't they don't nobody's patrolling that like unless they do another crime. >> So it's kind of like it's just luck at this point. Well, I feel really yucky after this conversation. Thank you. >> It is yucky, but it's it's a thing. >> It's a thing. It's a thing we have to face because nobody's protecting your kid from this at all. You have to >> We got to protect our kids, dude. >> As a parent, you have to be actually technologically savvy to know that if your kid is somewhere that there's going to be those predators there, too. So, it's like, >> this is super sad cuz I feel like T is not going to have my childhood, but Gio would not allow him to have sleepovers. >> Yeah, 100%. >> That's just the thing. No sleepovers till you're ████ 18 or some ████ >> I mean, >> my mom didn't let me do that either, though. >> Good. You should. >> I love my sleepover, >> dude. My sleepovers are hella fun. >> Hell of fun. >> So, has he been invited to a sleepover? >> What if Yeah. What if you guys can you guys um host a sleepover? >> She would be down for that. >> Okay. So, he just can't go somewhere else. >> Yeah. ████ that, dude. >> Not even like for really close friends or cousins.

12:33 >> No, that's where they go. >> If it's family, you know, she's cool with it. But if it's like >> I don't even know if she would be down with close friends. >> He has a good point though. Dude, there's stories where the first perpetrator, their closest uncle still ended up >> assaulting. >> One of our friends has a really scary story about how she was going to go to a sleepover. And the friend's sleepover, the dad was the one >> sexually assaulting the daughter. >> And it was going to be the night >> that she went over and her dad was like, "Nope, you can't go sleep over." Very strong Muslim household was like, "Nope, you got to stay here." And that was the night where this girl got sexually assaulted by her own father. That's crazy. >> You know what I mean? It's like, bro, you just don't you really don't know. You really don't know. >> That's so ████ crazy. >> And it sucks to like you just you want to reflex and be and make your kid a bubble boy, but it's like you can't do that either. >> Sleepover at our house.

13:23 >> That's so crazy that parents do it to their own kids. That's so crazy. >> Isn't that the most like demented? >> Maybe sleepovers just need to be both kids and parents. All the parents are also sleeping in the same house or something like that. >> But then now you got to watch the parent cuz what if you start dozing off and then the dad's like He's walking like this. >> It's just like Red Rover all ages.

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