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The Shocking History Behind the Feminine Male K-Pop Look

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0:00 That guy, the second one from the left definitely got ████ >> Come on, man. >> Look at his posture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, >> he just got d >> Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. Um, we're going to watch this real quick video of Jiaoying Summers. Something she had said on a podcast with Adam Corolla and I thought was really cool. Um, I want to see if you guys know who she's talking about. You'll definitely know who she's talking about because you love the guy that she's talking about. You're like a huge fan of him. I don't know if you remember him, but >> you know why the Korean K-pop guys look like little boys? No, >> little boys. It's because a a Japanese man who was born grew up in San Francisco. He's a very rich. He's a >> he loves young little boys. He went back

0:51 to Japan. He's the founding father of Japanese pop. So we start to get those pretty little boys take those >> things. So they they maintain 14 years old and all of them and then they influence all Asia's beauty standard on men even Asian men. Now the the K-pop guys they all look good white skin skinny little girls >> because this one single Japanese American or shake the beauty standard of Asian men. Do you know? >> Wait, how the Who's this? Who do Who's So I know this person. >> Who? >> Johnny Kitagawa. >> Who the ████ is that? >> That's your ████ favorite guy, bro. What? >> That's your favorite guy. Johnny Kagawa. >> I don't know who the kind of >> Whoa. That guy's young. That guy looks young. >> This is him. That's Johnny Kitagawa.

1:42 >> I have no idea who this guy is. This is the dude who's like the father of all Japanese boy band music. >> Really? >> What? >> Yeah. >> Like Snap? Have you heard of Snap? >> Snaps. Snaps under the the Johnny's the Johnny label. Yeah, >> he boned Snap. >> I don't know. >> Snap is like a Japanese pop group when we were like in high school and like >> I actually worked with Snap. >> No ████ >> Yeah. On they had a TV show for a bit >> like later on in life. >> Later on in life. Yeah. Yeah. Postponing. >> Yeah. So this guy Johnny uh Kitagawa, he was a he was the guy that basically invented the entire like aesthetic of boy bands and he was controlling the entire boyband industry in Japan for >> decades. And this guy has a record of um >> owning all of them >> owning like >> so he's Japanese from from 1970 to 2010.

2:34 Whoa. What a run, bro. >> He He has like hundreds and hundreds of victims all underneath like his like power structure. >> Is he alive still? >> Did he dude? >> No, he died. >> Sadly. Sadly. >> After >> all the good ones go. >> Was he accused at the time? >> Yeah. Well, no, he was I think he might have been accused throughout his career, but like sometimes he would sue who was accusing him and win. >> No. So it's like >> cuz he's like you wanted it fool >> or he probably had just too much power. He could probably pay off pay off the judge. Whatever. >> You bought him off. He won't even admit that he likes him. >> He's acting like he doesn't know. >> So he's a Japanese American. He's not even Japanese. >> I guess I guess he went back to Japan at some point and started this whole thing. So his first boy band was like I think

3:25 like he went up to like a um like a park where these kids were playing baseball and he made his first boy band out of those kids. And then uh and then like because his stuff was so popular, they would just call like all of his artists like Johnny's. >> Damn. >> And then he would literally like so many of these kids has all my ████ >> Yeah. They have so much um like uh record of having to like you know go to his place or he would uh make them like he would make the boy band like shower with him or like scrub scrub his back. >> This is like the Playboy Mansion but >> exactly playboy band mansion. >> Playboy. >> How did Jiao Ying know? >> I think so. There's a BBC documentary about this guy. >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> She studied it. >> I don't know if she studied that or just knew I mean I guess maybe it's something that a lot of people know. >> Vine or something.

4:15 >> Yeah, maybe. I guess um it's pretty interesting because I've never heard the way that she told it is pretty cool because she's talking about the beauty standard of even K-pop today. How it could be rooted back >> to that guy. >> That makes sense >> cuz that is something I was always curious about where I'm like um this the K-pop or even J-pop like that beauty standard isn't even a like you there's you can't really trace the root, right? Cuz if you look at old Japanese movies, old Korean movies, they have manly men in both of them. >> So I'm like, where did this >> Kurissawa films? >> Yeah. So I'm like, where did this random like new look that everyone's trying to achieve come from? >> Ding ding >> twinks, bro. he was making twinks like all of his so he he not only he had such

5:06 popular bands during his time that um it was a thing where uh let's say that you were a network right and and you gave a bad review to like one of the songs of like one of his bands. So then like any of his other groups they would be forbidden of appearing anywhere on the network. So they would just try not to badmouth any of his stuff. It was like a crazy monopoly that he had over like the music world. What's funny to me is he has the same tastes of a teenage girl. >> What do you mean? >> Like the taste in men. Him and teen, he understands teenage women like teenage girls. >> They they both like tweaks. >> What came first though is the question. >> But then he might have been what made teenage girls like that instead of, you know, He-Man looking dudes, >> gruff gruff looking guys, you know. >> Do they like them because they look that way or do they like them because they're in a a a boy band? Right. Right. I think

5:58 if if you Yeah, because he's what? He's the one who put that in idol status and told you this is what's cool. I don't know. >> But he can be credited with you're down with this. >> No, no, no. It's just this is a Johnny Kagawa with Stan's couch, dude. It's like he did nothing wrong. The Johnny's, dude. >> It's bad, but like he he achieved something that changed like, >> do you know what I mean? Things forever. And people love K-pop. You're like, let's look at the positives here. >> He is Japanese diddy. Dude, it is really remarkable that like you said that that can even be traced at all, let alone it goes to something so dark, >> right? >> Dude, I think it it was building his team of hoes. >> Yeah. I think like once the and then so then they took his label, which is still

6:48 like I guess pretty successful, his whole company, and they like changed the name and they uh acknowledged what had happened. >> Oh, they did. They admitted to it. They changed it to like smile something like it's >> smile smile >> smile. >> Yeah. And then and then um and then so they I think in the cases like of all the people coming out and saying like oh he did that to me too. There was I think like over 500 >> ████ CUZ IT was for 40 years. >> That's 500 is just on the record for sure. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's doing the stuff. >> And so he would buff ████ all of them. >> More than 500. More than 500. You would just buff ████ all of them or like other ████ like like ████ shower with me. >> Look it up and see. Can you type it in AI? Do they just BF them? >> Buff ████ all of them. >> I can see the results that way so they can just hit me in the eyes.

7:38 >> Yeah. >> Images too. Images leaked photos. >> I think it was just like he he literally created a herum for himself. And like like Jiaing was saying, it was like a thing where you know not maybe not all of them even reported it because of that whole like oh he did this for my career. You know, he's he's like giving you something >> that you don't want to give back, right? >> Do you think Weinstein's jealous because he's like, I wish I produced in Japan. >> They at least they're grateful. I mean, it's pretty crazy that he did. He died without I guess like living through the shame that like Weinstein is now, you know? >> I know. >> Yeah. It's pretty freaking crazy. >> That is ████ crazy. >> Yeah. But the it's even crazier that you know like Weinstein did a lot of like amazing achievements whatever but like the fact that >> he also likes chicks though. >> Yeah. >> I think that's the problem is chicks will you'll get in trouble for chicks but you won't get in trouble for boys

8:28 like pit like P Diddy. >> Guys are better at keeping secrets. Girls are blabbermouths. >> The the guy movement's called not me. >> No not me. I He didn't do it to me. >> #notme. >> That's a different Johnny. 100 guys came out. >> I think more than that. >> I think that's like that's like the ones that officially were filed. Like >> that's like you get a new guy every other year. But I guess it's 40 years. So it's you could spread it over time. >> I think that's how many came out like uh postmortem I believe. I think it was like a thing where they they had to like find out who did the effect and it's it was more than that. I think I'm lowering it because I'm not sure what it was but I know it was more than that. You think uh in the K-pop world there's still someone like him or he just set the beauty standard and people are just following it now or do you think there's a >> or you think there's a like there's a

9:19 guy that's still like we're going to maintain this beauty standard cuz I want to ████ you guys. >> Yeah, I'm sure that in every industry of that level, it's absolutely happening. Anything with like a big power dynamic where you can't fight back, you're afraid to say what happened, it's happening for sure. You talking about the the the feminine boy look or you talking about oh the the the the grapey stuff? >> Which one are you talking about? >> So this one So this one Yeah. They created he created the feminine boy look so that he can do the stuff to them >> so he can have his own paradise. >> He can get aroused now. But then the that feminine boy is a thing now. Oh, so I'm wondering in the K-pop world, are they just following the aesthetic or is and they or is there still another Overlord that's like you're going to maintain this look because I'm going to keep doing those things to you. >> Oh. >> Oh, I see. >> I think there's still there's a new >> Overlord franchise, right? Like all the

10:10 all these kind of guys get together and they're like, "Oo, you're in heaven. Teach me the ways." And then they apprentice under him and then they start building their own like >> like like boy way. >> Yeah. He So he held the Guinness record for the most. >> You could have a Guinness record. >> Not for this, for his music industry achievements. >> You could have the Guinness record for the most guys taken advantage of. I'm like, what the ████ His face was like I was like, how the ████ The guy with the suit and the clipboard a ████ document. >> How many guys did you violate? >> One more. You just need one more and you're good. He's like, congratulations. Here's your certificate. >> He got the Guinness record for that. The last guy was Xerxes, but dude, like ████ you're about to beat Xerxes, man.

11:01 >> Nobody could beat him. He >> had so many chart topping artists under his label and everything. He he had the Guinness record of like I don't know like the most produced hits from one like uh person and >> one producer or something. >> They wiped it after all this stuff came out. Wow. >> Yeah. They were like, "Nah, we're not even going to talk about this guy no more." >> Yeah. But look at that. 40 of Japan's bestselling groups between 1974 and 2010. >> That fool looks like he's just a mochi salesman, dude. Like he doesn't look threatening at all. >> Weird thing is that when you look up his like like when you look at a timeline of all the things he did that were bad. >> Yeah. >> He has like molestation accusations from the 60s before he was even doing this. >> So it's like the this fool literally his motivation to succeed was to have these boys. It's freaking nuts. Well, at least we knew that women were safe around him. >> Uh, I don't know. You don't think so?

11:52 Probably not. >> He probably didn't treat him very well because he probably didn't like him very much. >> He was like, >> who brought these girls? >> Ruining everything. You guys can't keep a secret. >> You think he got jealous when the when the guys got with the girls? He was, why do they always want girls? He said, so it's they said that like whenever he would have all the like artists at his house, whenever uh one of them would be told by him to go to bed early, that was code for >> ████ me, >> you're next. Yeah. So he would say, Joe, go to bed early. >> And then you say, "What time?" >> Say, "I quit music. My butthole is at >> Yeah. So that's what the artists were saying like in all the depositions they were like that's how they would know like oh you're up you're up you're up. >> I'm really curious about the the whole

12:43 thing like this is bad but I wonder if you have to take off the shoes like what does he like >> like do you shower first? Do you know what I mean? Cuz he probably has like a whole like routine. Yeah. >> What he likes to get him off right? >> What do you think Jason? >> He likes to get a body scrub at 6:00 p.m. >> How long is it though? Do you know what I mean? >> I don't know. M who knows, man. >> All those guys that he ████ right there. >> I mean, I guess it's safe to say that like he if if you were part of his label, you kind of and it wasn't just the artist. It was like anyone working in the company. >> So, just the guy that's mopping the floor, go to bed early. >> Janitor Yoshi Taka. >> It was like anyone underneath his power his power structure. >> Guys, just ████ writing up a report and ████ >> Who's applying to this? comes up and

13:33 he's like, "Hey, Nakamoto, >> go to bed early." >> Man, that's ████ up. Guy's just in the mail room getting butt ████ and >> dude, >> like it's like just everybody in the company, huh? That guy that's I was like I don't think there's 500 like artists. I'm like, that's crazy, dude. >> Johnny's. They're called the Johnny's. >> I think his first his very first group. >> Here's the world record. >> Oh, yeah. Holy ████ One of >> his earliest earliest things was a Johnny's based thing. So then ever it was like a tradition that if you're part of his label later, they would just call you a Johnny. Like, oh, you're Johnny. Yeah. >> That guy the second one from the left

14:23 definitely got ████ >> Come on, man. >> Look at his posture. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He just got D.

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