0:00 So I'm going to tell you guys about the story of Colin Gray. If you're unfamiliar with this, it's a landmark case that um this this school shooter had gone into uh Apple Valley High School, Georgia. And this kid, of course, like you know, he by all means should be convicted of this crime of literally being a school shooter. But uh his name's Colt Gray. But now for the first time that I've ever seen his dad, Colin Gray, is getting 15 years in prison for being his dad. >> For being responsible, I guess like responsible They're putting the responsibility on the dad for raising a school shooter. >> Wait, is it because uh he left his gun out? >> number of things, but uh he's being convicted of second-degree murder over
0:50 the deaths of two students who were killed by his son during the mass shooting. He's also guilty of involuntary manslaughter over the death of two teachers. The prosecution claimed it's his fault because he bought his 16-year-old son the rifle and failed to lock it up after they were able to prove that he knew his son was a risk. >> Oh. >> So they were able to prove that like, oh, you can't say I had no idea this was going to happen. There were signs, there were like, you know, things that he could have done to prevent it, but he didn't do it, and now he gets 15 years. >> That's crazy that you could prove that you knew all along and you didn't do ████ >> Yeah. >> And a lot of the time, I feel like most of these parents in the past could also be in the same boat, but I've never seen this actually happen. >> That's a very like traditional Asian
1:40 style ruling. Yeah. You know, like cuz like I think in the in the Asian culture, there's like a in in American and Western culture, there's a lot of like individualistic responsibility. But then in Asian culture, there's a lot of like kind of almost collective responsibility. Like you reflect on your parents or your family name and all that. And so a lot of the times people avoid doing certain things just cuz they don't even want to bring shame to the family. >> Yes. >> I think it's good to kind of like meet in the middle somewhere because yeah, without the dad, how would he have unless he got the weapon illegally, but if his dad bought him the weapon and he had and his dad knew about it. Yeah, I always felt like as if you're up until the kid is 18, I feel like there is some sort >> They're your property. >> They're your property and there's some responsibility. I mean like when your when your dog goes out and bites someone
2:31 else, you're you still get in trouble. And that's your dog. >> Right. It's your dog. Your responsibility. I really love like it sounds funny, but I absolutely wish more cultures could absorb some of the Asian shame culture. >> Yes. >> Because it has saved the culture from so many things. Because you know, Asians are like one of the only cultures that let's say that like a Filipino guy did something really ████ horrible, nobody's donating to that fool's GoFundMe. Nobody's coming to ████ help this guy. >> If anything, they go, "I remember you ████ ████ you! You ████ make made made us look bad!" >> Yeah, yeah, but then other races have people that are like that guy. Well, they'll be like, "Nah, he probably didn't do it." You know what I mean? Like, "No, dude. Asians are like you ████ did it. I don't even care." >> [laughter] >> You know like how crazy that
3:22 generational guilt is? So like in North Korea, if you get in trouble for a crime, for three generations, that's the punishment. So like you, your parents, and your children all go to ████ jail together. Isn't that crazy? >> [laughter] >> That's crazy to me. And some people they'll have like kids there, right? In their in the prison camp. For three generations, that's your sentence. So they have like a slave work encampment. >> Yeah, cuz if the mom was pregnant and if she gave birth then the kid could be just born into the slave camp or whatever. >> And they don't get free until the next kid. >> Yeah, I know. That's that's too far. >> And it's for crazy ████ like you watch the K-pop ████ concert. >> Yeah, right. You saw a DVD of Inside
4:12 Out. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, banned. It's contraband, yeah. So um here's the crazy here's the breakdown. So the son pled guilty to 55 counts um four murders and nine injuries of the kids that he had shot at. He The kid got life in prison. Um and where was the mom throughout all of this people would ask? And and and where where the mom was kind of shows you how terrible his parents were. >> She's getting a massage or something. >> [laughter] >> So she lost custody of her kids years ago because of drug abuse and child neglect. And uh while and and here's the crazy thing. So while Colt, the the shooter, the kid, while he's in prison, they were recording uh transcripts of like the conversations he would have with his mom from prison and this is the type of ████ they were saying. So um his mom was telling him about drawings on the internet she found where it shows
5:02 Colt, the kid, and they would draw him alongside all the mass shooters of history. >> [laughter] >> And then the mom says, "I'm printing these out because they're extremely cute." >> What the hell? >> And then another drawing showed Colt next to the Columbine shooters and the Parkland shooters. >> Like she's proud of him? >> She's proud Yeah, and Colt's mom said, "It's really awesome." And then Colt said, "Wow, I need that printed out and brought to the jail." >> Oh ████ >> And then so like Colt asked for mercy in his sentencing because he said he had a abusive childhood. And the state investigated his life and they found 12 categories of abuse in his household such as inadequate food, shelter, medical care. So it was both his parents were pieces of ████ Total pieces of ████ >> You think they named him after the Colt gun? >> The gun, yeah, probably. And that's not to say like I I'm not in no way excusing the existence of Cult where like, "Oh,
5:54 that's fine. He should be have leniency." No. But, he's what? 16? >> Yeah, something like that, yeah. >> I kind of agree with Bart though. Like, up until they're an adult adult, like you're shaping this ████ human being. >> Yeah. >> And it is up to the parents. And if they're absolute trash >> If they made the demon child. >> Yeah. You you're developing trash. >> Right. And so, um there was And then also in his life, there's no evidence or record that they ever took him to the doctor other than one time to get glasses. And they they never like had any care for him. Uh the prosecution's not interested though in in uh prosecuting the mom. >> They're not interested in prosecuting her? >> No, they're not. And the reason is interesting. So, they don't want the mom to be put on trial because putting her on trial will make Cult, the son, have
6:45 to testify against her and it frames Cult as a victim. And they don't want Cult, who murdered all these kids, to be in any position where he looks like a victim of anything. They want him to stay the the assailant. >> That's ████ up, too. Cuz I'm like, people can be like the assailant and the victim at the same time, but I feel like they just should be separate cases, try them in that order of crime or whatever. >> Yeah, but I guess that's why they're choosing not to. They're like, "Nah, just put him away." >> Cuz you know when they do things for optics, it kind of skews justice. >> Right, yeah. >> You know, you're like, "Oh, it's going to look bad because of this or whatever, whatever." Yeah, I don't know, man. >> Yeah, they don't want that at all. They don't want uh Cult to be a victim in any of this cuz then he'd be essentially um I guess they don't want to frame it like, "Oh, he did this because of his upbringing." Which of course that plays a big part of it, but like
7:35 >> Most crimes is because of that. >> Yeah. But, his parents are ████ horrible. >> It's like years of ████ up. That's why they're at this point. It's not like someone just has a crime of passion one day. >> Right. Yeah, exactly. >> In majority of cases, and I think like when people are looking at it from the outside, and they've never been around criminals, the ████ basically the lowest point of society, trash. >> Yeah. >> They've never been around that ████ They have no ████ idea how it works. >> No, yeah. They have no idea. >> And then they go, "Well, people can if they just need a you know, more money in the education system." They did Dude, it doesn't ████ do anything. >> You I I really believe like I don't know if this is like a a bad belief, but I really think like situations like this where two horrible people came together and made a ████ demon, I don't think there's any infrastructure that's going
8:25 to save that. >> Oh, like what we have? No. >> ████ no. >> I don't think you could do anything. I think that's you just have to hope that he doesn't go to your school. >> [laughter] >> There's nothing you can do. >> Well, if they're I think if they're young, I think there's a chance to turn it around, but it it's not about money, man. It's about mentorship. >> But like if you don't personally know them, then that's out of reach, right? >> No, no, for sure. But I think to if if it's a possibility to rehabilitate or change the course, I think if they're young, yeah. If they're if they're past, I want to say 30, I I don't think so. Like if at that point they live the criminal lifestyle, they're already in that world, it's like being a part of a cult. Like you already and then when you go to jail, you just learn the game better. Right? But then if you're a teenager, and let's say the state takes you, if it is if it's not a babysitting
9:16 program, and they've been they've done studies on this of like rehab and and with child soldiers that are refugees. Like these child soldiers, they would be on drugs every day, like murdering all day long, just doing the crazy worse than these criminals, right? >> Yeah. >> But then they'll um be able to like reverse it with mentorship and like like love and care basically. And then the the stat's actually pretty high the younger they are. So, there's more time for them to mold and turn around. Yeah. But But yeah, it takes a lot of time. And I'm like that's where the That's where it goes. It's like who has the ████ time to do this? >> Yeah, cuz it's already hard to even mold one that you don't have to reverse. Like Tyga, he's you know, blank slate. And he's not didn't have a bad upbringing, but even just that it
10:06 already takes time to make sure he's like growing up in the right path. >> That's why I think like of course this is a horrible opinion, but I have to have it. I think kids like the the having to make everything inclusive to where no kid is weird, I think that's really ████ dangerous. I think you have to be able to spot the kids that are ████ weird. You know what I mean? Like you have to be able to be like this kid is not right. You know what I mean? Instead of just act like everybody's the same. You know what I mean? I know that's like societally that's what we want, but it's like a utopian idea. I don't think it's real. Like we can't fake our way into thinking all the children are perfect. >> ████ no, man. When you look at these like pedals and ████ and you see their faces and there's a look, bro. There's a There's a ████ look. >> That's what I'm saying too, man. I'm like come on. >> Imagine a dermatologist that did that.
10:57 They're like, "Yo, what's this dark spot?" "Oh, dude, just ignore it. It's just like the rest of it." It keeps growing. Like I think it's cancer, bro. Just ignore it, dude. It's just They're all the same. >> Love your whole body. Love all of it. >> I do agree though like for like let's say you see a Steve Urkel, right? Or you see like a like a black anime nerd. And then, you know, someone that is afraid of black people might see that and just run across the street and like lock their doors. Now, that's That's that whole like treat everybody, whatever. Like that's for them because when they're paranoid, they're actually dangerous. It's like the It's like the cop that's like a like trigger-happy because they're they're like a scared Chihuahua. So, they need to learn to to to ████ unveil that. But, on the flip side, I think it could go the other way, too, where
11:48 you actually have a a group of thugs that are dangerous, and you don't want to walk down the alley where they're at. >> Yeah. >> But, then you go, "You know what? I'm not racist. I'm going to go down anyway." And it's like, that's a literal ████ gang, bro. Like, what are you doing? That's their territory, and you you're not wearing the right color, you idiot. You know, like And it's And it's like, I don't know. >> And you look very jackable. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Stupid. That's just stupid. >> Yeah, it's That's what I'm saying though, is like, well, which one is the right one? It's like, you got the extremes of two sides. >> Well, it's the same as when I mean, the double standard is like let's say there's a alleyway for full of eight men, and you don't know what race they are, but you're a woman. I think you should be allowed to not have to go that way. >> Yeah, it's not like eight guys singing
12:38 doo-wop. Doo-wop, doo-wa, you know? But, those those guys can ████ grape YOUR ASS, TOO. >> [laughter] >> COULD be a diversion. Yeah, but that's the thing. It's like It's as simple as that to me, you know? Like, if that's if if a woman if it's okay for her to not have to, you know, to put her survival first, you know, rather than a political correctness. >> It sucks that we do live in a world like that, though, cuz man, we do. There's like certain places though, like, I don't know, Japan, Europe, even some places in South Southeast Asia, where I don't my my spidey senses gets to relax. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm talking about? >> Singapore is like that for me. Yeah. >> Yeah, it's like it's nice to have that. >> It's really, really nice, yeah. >> But, in America, in the way we grew up >> I was having that just here in Vegas, compared to LA. Cuz I I last lived in downtown. So then I have that here in in
13:30 Summerlin. I feel like that. >> [laughter] >> That's true. That's true. >> I hella feel like that. I'm like this is different. It's nice. >> But it's nice to have that and I wish we could live in a world like that, but we don't. We live in America. >> We don't live in a world where everyone's equal. It sucks to say it, but yeah, we don't. There's some freaking There's some freaks out there. >> There's some freaks, man. Even in Japan there's there's freaks everywhere. You got to train everyone to have that eye. >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like the dude Remember the guy who was really famous story. Japanese student who was studying abroad, I believe in France, and he became a cannibal and he ate He ate his roommate. And that He does not look like a normal guy. Physically Physically he looks ████ weird. >> Right now he looks like Gollum. The one that's all crazy pale, right? That one? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. He looks like Smeagol and ████ Looks like he has no life in his eyes, you know, like it's it's like a different weird thing. I I don't think
14:23 there's like there's never sign >> If something feels weird, I would just be risk-averse. I judge people by their looks all the time. >> Yeah, and then everybody loves to act like they can read vibes, but then they can't. Suddenly they're horrible. >> Yeah. [laughter] Like okay. >> Nope. I'm judging all day long. >> Like look at that guy's vibe. >> Hey, it's kept me alive. I trust my instincts. >> I know. People should listen to us cuz we're live.
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