0:00 Anthony Lee from The KES how do you describe yourself politically he's altright give the fans a real answer Joe oh he's probably super [Music] communist welcome back to careful boys where today we're talking about how do we describe ourselves politically all right you guys are afraid yeah since you guys are afraid I'll tell you this no yeah we're scared you scared son of a ████ frightened all right I figured this out okay independently and in my I would say within my circle of friends I think libertarian if it could work but I have low faith in humanity so if I was in power I would rather it be
0:51 communist such a good communist for the people such a good libertarian for my circle such a good answer I would also love for you to just describe what you think everybody is but atically here as well Joe I think most of you guys are moderately left leaning in the traditional sense not progressivism but but wokeism but what about in 2024 what are we in 2024 in 20124 culturally you're probably going to be thrown into the conservative Circle because you like logic but but but 10 years ago that wasn't the the I like that was n conservative like thought conservative thought was Protestant and um you know you're more like a war hawk in neocon neon so like
1:41 that's meaning like you're pro war you're Pro America no immigration at all maybe more 20 years ago maybe like the bush era right yeah so it's I I think it's difficult because there's different camps that will come into each party we have two massive parties and different groups within the party that will take control I'm seeing the ROM p style libertarian uh Republican mentality growing within the right and I he got murdered by the way in if you remember during the debates yeah when he was running like Against Romney he got murdered they the media just smeared him they're like he's such a crack poot he's saying like oh my God 911 we brought it on ourselves because we're attacking the people in the Middle East like what an extremist thing to say it's like that makes so much sense is that crazy yeah
2:31 but he's his his extremist his philosophy or his style of thinking and his way of expressing republicanism is kind of it's kind of becoming the stronger point now it's not it is definitely the fulcrum to me of of a lot of versus the Chris chrisy Nikki Nikki Haley and and the old school let's just keep it up there I you know who they are I think they're like the uh the the the McCain Republicans right yeah that's why you guys need more than two parties mhm yeah it's hard to disagree I actually like libertarianism I don't like the people in it though I don't like the party I don't like the people that claim they're libertarian like a lot of them why are crackpot tea party people like but the you know what I mean right like the sometimes you could philosophy wise philosophy like
3:23 vegans who prefer hanging out with meat eaters that's a good way to describe it great way to describe it yeah you're like you why do the Libertarians want to do Warhawk ████ I don't know if that's always true no no but you're talking about the people in the party cuz I agree with you like the Republicans no no no the the people in the libertarian party they tend to flirt with this weird ████ expansionist ████ and I'm like wait aren't you supposed to be against that ████ yeah you're supposed to be yeah right more about defense not about offense yeah I don't know strange I think I'm more libertarian and I think the world probably views me as more right leaning well libertarian is well oh no never mind you could be left libertarian too yeah yeah it doesn't really make sense but yeah yeah it doesn't but I don't know how so there's a political Spectrum test where there is left libertarian and right libertarian
4:14 and I was like what the ████ is a left libertarian society and actually um I think it was France or one of those countries or that France is not libertarian no they're not but my knowledge of libertarian is um small government super small and more uh private ownership free market free market less government intervention and personal decisions um is there free market in in Dubai might be the most capitalistic city in the world I've heard that yeah it's no welfare pay for everything no taxes very little taxes um yeah super capitalistic wow no welfare no damn I don't even know that world and no taxes I can imagine no taxes I can't
5:06 imagine no so like no sales tax like if you buy a l 5% 5% 5% yeah that's a lot man ████ yeah 5% V 5% of that what about is there property tax um I think there's a 4% and I think if you I think if you're a foreigner and you buy a property I think there's a 4% tax which I think like they use to just like gift to the amarate people give to their citizens something like that you so they they make the situation there so it works out like whether you're a citizen or you're an expat you get a sweet deal yeah so their taxes work there yeah well the taxes are yeah like it's very very minimal like if you're an Emirate you're just our taxes go to politicians I think if you're an emirati the government even like pays for your if you get married they pay for your wedding every time you have I think when you when you have a
5:56 kid they pay you a bonus like that answers my next question I was going to say what amenities do you get what amenities yeah uh as oh sorry as a as a taxpayer as an expat as an expat you said you you pay 5% for example like oh sales like when you buy like what do you get from the government ever at all um one of the cleanest and safest cities in the [Laughter] world it's a great answer if only we could ever have an answer roads police fire department that sounds like imagination to me what a nerd we just can't imagine the government delivering on this no never exactly I just can't imagine that actually happening is it though is it I guess that's us here though yeah um yeah look anyone curious about like I don't want
6:46 people to think I'm some like UAE salesman or something I'm not um you're doing a pretty good job I do think people I do think people should visit especially you selling time shares we have that fan the mega fan fan from uh where was he from UAE I thought he was from Jordan is he was he in Kuwait oh Kuwait that's the one the guy who had the carpet on the wall they got no taxes there yes yeah he was telling us no no taxes well all the gulf countries they no taxes like I I didn't know what I was confused by the whole tax thing when I came to England I was like what the heck like why' you have to what well we just didn't want to hang out with him because we thought we' go to war sa Saudi has no taxes yeah um and it's funny because everyone's just like oh well they they have oil I'm like um so does Venezuela so does Nigeria so does the US so does the UK right I'm we actually have a lot but we're not we're
7:37 not drilling yeah we're just saving it don't you feel like you get put on a list though if you travel like cuz get put on a list well cuz you go to these certain countries like you feel like you get put on a ████ list like a like a like 2001 style like we're no but but some some of those countries are our friends the Border agents in the US are all actually really nice to me that's good yeah I've even been recognized a couple times they don't give you the ████ dick I had one guy who'd seen me on Rogan that's cool he was like looking at my I was like yo dope that cool that's really he was like welcome to America I was like thank you no I have no problem Anthony Lee from The KES how do you describe yourself politically he's alt-right give the fans a real answer Joe oh he's probably super communist yeah super ████ Ultra January sixer that's not communist oh I was just giving my answer
8:27 sorry oh he's I'm like ████ anti- Shen Yun to him that's what I am yeah he hates Shen Yun cuz he he feels that they shut down all of his kja studios in China genuine yeah specifically the marketing on that it's really good marketing though it's really great marketing I don't think most of my friends are political in general they're like more like they want sensibility like they want yeah so they right wi yep he's good is he a Salesman or what he's ████ good that's where I am too I think like I I never thought about what side I was on but then like people just placed me there because of the logical like my my main thing my main thing is I don't want to bother anybody and I don't want anyone to bother me that puts me in the right for some reason that's so weird though because like being being a part of like the dance world too I thought that you know uh maybe it's easy to say uh I'm a
9:18 Democrat a couple years ago you know what I'm saying and now suddenly I have no idea where I'm being placed based off of like those things like logic it's so interesting how this is happening at mhm and it's interesting that it's not just happening in the states either like the whole anglosphere this weird shift is happening where there's this um I don't know disillusioned middle kind of like former former moderates or even liberals who are now being called conservative and sort of aligning more even if they're like okay we don't agree on it but like you're making more sense and the progressive end has just gone so like they've they' they could just come off the hinges in the past decade yeah yeah yeah it's just like like if you if you listen to Barack Obama's speeches now oh my God he sounds like a republican if you go if you go back listen to his 2008 you're like he sounds
10:11 likeing Pro guy yeah he sounds like a if you listen to what he's saying you're like man you I can't imagine a Democrat now saying that it's I think we're all moderates cuzz I don't think any of us are against social programs uh and you know like government educate like being involved in education standard like system of UC well any of that Stu right I think there's a cultural difference now on the two parties I think yeah I think there's more like yeah the culture it does set the the policy but then there's just so many things that I'm like are we really talking about like gender ████ when there's still people like hungry in America why is that the priority why are we talking about like but we can walk and chew gum Joe my thing is like I can't I got to go I know you do you
11:02 guys want to know my theory on this what is it what is it you guys want to know my actual theory on this okay okay okay so a lot of times people ask about you know when when did we enter clown world when did the left stop being liberal when did they kind of when did the woke stuff really and I think 2012 was was very pivotal the election year or Obama re-election okay I think that what I think that what happened and this is true across the entire West is I think that the last legitimate um left-wing fight in the west was the um was gay marriage I think that was the last law that someone could have looked at on the books um in the UK or us or Canada or whatever and be like Ah that's discriminator that's that's
11:52 discriminatory against a group of people if you think all of American History all of British history there's always been laws saying men can do this but women can't do this white people can do this but black people can't do that what like and boom boom boom dominoes like they they those all got knocked down right anti- mation laws black you know mixed race couples can't all of that stuff got knocked down and I think the the marriage equality laws um regardless of someone's stance on this um that was the last thing where you could make there's arguments on both sides but someone could make an argument that okay that's discriminatory that's not quite equal objectively and so once that was legalized I think you were left with millions and millions of lifelong progressives mhm lefties liberals whatever who all they've been fighting fighting fighting fighting for equal and
12:43 then for the first time in human history you have equality under the law from early 2010s you have true you have equality under the law there's not if anyone can point out a a law in the book and say hey this is saying this all all that's done and I think you were just just left with all of these people who were like what's next what's next and I think that's why they went super Goofy on the gender stuff and all the trans stuff and all the like like it kind of came out of nowhere it was like wait why why is this soone a lack of problems create problems exactly um and so I I think that's why it's overcorrected so much and like they're fighting racism but like with racism they're fighting like like they're turn the sort of unhinged left has turned into the things that they were supposed to be against like they're still like they're still
13:33 there swinging their swords you know what I mean like the monster's gone now and they're still there trying to slay white supremacy they're trying to say and everyone's kind of like what do you do like what white supremacy I mean like but don't you need a break from white people sometimes I'm sorry like me and con we're sorry do you need a break you need a like a little timeout corner from the white people preparations uh I mean if you want to just give me money for like we can't do that now they're kind of they're kind of over like fighting outre my my theory on it is is I think that the uh when the West started offshoring the left was like the labor party there's no labor in the UK anymore when manufacturing left the west then how do you how do you maintain that voter base so like all of the unions all
14:24 the people to me it's funny that I'm seeing traditional groups that were on the left like the police Union guys they're flipping to the right and it's because in both countries I think the the left has realize that their voter base is dwindling and now they have to appeal to college students cuz those those are the only group of people that will go out they don't show up they don't show up at the polls we know that not necessarily cuz we just found out from Ron that Irvine's biggest voter base they used to be a traditionally right City uh it was actually the headquarters of Southern California's Republic party but it's been left for the past couple of years because students are actively voting and they're 90% of the voter base in Irvine so I think they' pivoted their strategy from uh manufacturing and working class to University students so then everything
15:16 that appeals to young people that's what they're going for and I think it's wor cuz there's so many active politically active college students now like when I was ████ in no one gave a ████ like people went to vote for OB cuz he was black and that was it like no one was that hardcore into the the the the issues so I think that might be the case it's like how do you still keep the party in power and and grow your voter base bring it over the board if the if the manufacturing group um that you were always appealing to is gone yeah makes sense yeah yeah it's shifted and it that's why it's shifted towards more of an identity politics type of politics rather than talking about economic issues or class based issues all the stuff again traditionally in the UK because the exact same things happen right the labor party used to be the
16:06 party of the working the working class right the the working there's no coal miners Constructors people working in motor factories all that stuff whereas similar in as here with the Democrats now the primary labor voters are you know yuppies and um you know University students and did it come from here or or did it originate over there I just think I just think that the same Bo Nations I think it's probably the same in Canada Australia I think all these nations have just gone through the same I think it's cuz manufacturing went Global so then all those countries offshored it to China and so you don't have the coal miners Union you don't have all these guys that are like we need a party to represent us and get us better working conditions and wages and ████ yeah it's interesting I mean in terms of this this sort of social the
16:56 social cultural left it becomes less and less necessary the more genuinely equal and fair Society becomes right so if you were to fast forward rewind 100 years ago back to you know there's freaking 4 million KKK members and there's racial discrimination and it's horrible and there's lynching like all this nasty stuff going on all sorts of unfair laws people being mistreated and so on the proper role of the of the left or liberals is very obvious mhm it's like look like this is wrong this is wrong like this is Downton and this is unfair this is whatever and I think that now we are in a time again for the first time ever where actually vast majority of people don't care if you're black white asian Jewish straight gay whatever Rel like most people are whether they're conservative libertarian like people are very pretty
17:46 Live and Let Live right yeah sure you can find a big bit if you really really try but most people don't care doesn't matter whether you're in Texas you're in Alabama you're in Georgia you're in California New York people don't care people are just getting on with their lives so I think like I said I I just think the that role that activist role has become weird remember when they were doing like all the the women's marches uh the P ████ hats and whatever ████ hats and it was like what are you Marching for like who's against that yeah but but but but it's like what what's your cause normally when you have a big March or something it's like okay we want this law we're fighting for this unity in the it's like we're fighting for equality it's like for what for what like what what what if you're a woman in the USA what equality don't have what can a man do to push back I think they would say that when Trump got elected he
18:38 put in judges and that you know now roie Wade got stricken down so that's what they were maybe marching about that was before that when they were marching wait what that was prior to no no I know but that's what they were marching for is like like they were resisting that that's what they were I you have a better maybe you have better idea than what they did but I think that's what it was the effect I think it was the worry about losing something like roie Wade and like the ████ hats was about that that's what that's what I my understanding they might they might see this and go yeah that's why I want what he say I think that is literally what they were because you mean some of the signs will be about gender wage gaps and this and this and it's just well that stuff I agree with that that stuff is nuts but I do think that yeah women shouldn't get paid more than guys thank you exactly that's right you know that in in many big cities um under the age of 30 women actually on average now were earning out earning yeah cuz
19:29 girls are better they're getting 60% of the degrees the shift doesn't happen now until motherhood cuz when women become mothers obviously and they should they tend to start working fewer hours and or go part-time and so that's when they that's when it changes I feel like like uh like what you were saying how a lot of people generally didn't care about race or gender or whatever for so long but I feel like the initiatives of late have created bigots out of those people they're resuscitating it man it's like because it's like you have a guy that generally doesn't care and he's like yeah everyone's cool with me and then you force him to pick aide when he's just like trying to live now he hates you or or keep tell or keep telling him he's evil because he's a white man now he hates the person that's telling him some of those people like some of those activists that becomes their identity so now you're attacking them personally instead of the actual problem it's like a lot of people don't make my thing is don't make them right like like dude
20:20 I'll never forget how silly I thought the ████ hats were I thought the ████ ass was the stupidest ████ I ever saw I really did and I still do think it was pretty dumb timately cuz you're wearing a ████ on your head it's pretty dumb I like to put them on my face but the thing about it is like they did get rid of roie Wade so I don't like blame them necessarily cuz I think they were in the main correct actually cuz like I don't look I'm I'm fine with it getting kicked back to the States because that's where it belongs anyway you should get to determine what you think in your uh wherever you live like it should reflect your belief system that's what states rights is all about but it's disturbing that you know um that that exists where like they there are some women who are like ████ if I live in this state I don't I I got to
21:10 leave this state I got to ████ drive 90 miles to go get an abortion to me to me but not to maybe everyone and so maybe I got outvoted on this topic and I'm fine with that but that's my personal thing yeah that's fine I'm not going to get into whole abortion cono I'm very I'm very St um you're pro life I'm very pro life hey I'm honestly fine with that honestly I want people that are dumb as ████ to have abortions I 100% believe so but that's because I'm communist when it comes to other people and I'm libertarian for myself this going to get filed you know that yeah the only time I think I get accused of being a real right- Winger is on the pro pro- life Pro Choice thing but that's it
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