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0:52 asking for this one for a little bit um I thought it might be nice to talk about it now what is everybody's view on God oh boy which one how about the Blues Brothers go first top three God top three Gods top three didn't we do one about christianities bottom three what in what ways top five other two yeah how Christian are you from one to ten I'm Kristen he did no okay no why we left the church I think that's the thing okay my view on the supernet this little help is that the super Nat is something that's just so super that is natural Steve's chicken said it was just so profound I was touched by it honestly I was touched by Steve don't like that one dude no I was I was moved okay so this
1:45 concept okay this is I think this is what happens is like if you're born into religion you go through this phase of you're just indoctrinated right and then you kind of go through your own journey of wait a minute do I really believe and then that either makes you born again you get deeper in it you go atheist right and then so you might go atheist but then you might go so hardcore that everything you do you hate everything religious but then that's just a whole culture of hate and then you find some balance and you go well maybe I shouldn't rule out everything because who ████ actually knows no one knows no one knows and eventually I believe that we will figure out some phenomena that happens like like how they thought disease and sickness was just being possessed or like ████ whatever right like mental diseases were just because I don't know
2:35 like you had a demon in you I do believe that as we further our knowledge in Science and Tech and all that and we have the tools to measure certain things we might be able to figure out a lot more things but I don't know if it's like maybe homosexual audience because there's a demon exactly like you know maybe it's all because there's a demon in you instead of just like a couple of categories yeah I would really like to to um entertain that thought well I can't wait till they figure that out yeah this entity or whatever it's it's ████ hard man because it's just a faith-based thing yeah yeah I think we just all try to believe in something that helps us understand what we can't understand whether that's different religions spirituality you guys all have Shades yeah yeah where's your Shades cool guy that was a knot I heard the knot yeah
3:26 not Nat I think our religion is like so as a kid right you're told a certain that and then they're like but also so like you're told about Jesus and you're told about all the different like Apostles and all that kind of ████ and then you talk about the prophets and all that kind of ████ but then it's like also there's Santa Claus and but he's a hoax yeah and so then you're like man that is like basically it's almost like it was set up by people who hate Christianity or whatever to like sort of give you a little truth serum to wake you up to the rest of the scam because then it's like oh ████ Santa Claus is all ████ and then by the way if they should just abandon the Easter Bunny because Easter Bunny seems like ████ when you're a kid even kids don't even care about these kids are like this seems like ████ wacky you're two years old you're like I don't know about this Easter Bunny ████ yeah but I thought
4:17 Santa was Christian Old Saint Peter Nick yeah it's Catholic Christians all that ████ but but I just so I think it's just sort of like it's almost like it just teaches you to not believe in the rest of it because of it oh yeah I mean because that's the gateway to questioning it exactly because well Santa's not real then why is Jesus real well Jesus is a historical figure well so is Santa it's like oh well ████ I don't ████ know I don't ████ know that's what my dad said I don't ████ know I don't ████ know okay that's what Dad said yeah and then if I had to choose between worshiping uh Jesus or Santa I think I'll go with Santa you love Santa I love Santa dude Santa's cool man worship Santa like in come on dude like you got one in the Middle East and it's like hot and dry and he's like he's always scary on the cross and then
5:08 you got the other guy he's happy as ████ what's happening is that biblical no like you go to a Catholic Church they got bleeding Jesus and like this is pretty hardcore we didn't grow up in that kind of church if you go to a Protestant or like just regular like ████ good old-fashioned American Church like it's like you don't have dead ass Jesus like Attitude Era Jesus no like they got saggies this isn't breaking glass on his forehead bcw Jesus dude you don't even see Jesus you see a painting of like a white guy with a robe on like with always like clouds and stuff right yeah it's different but then like when you see sad Jesus you're just like oh that's scary bro why would anyone wear a crown of thorns is my thing
6:02 but also we were I mean we grew up with the 10 strict original Commandments you can't even paint Jesus that's true you're supposed to look at him at all really look at Jesus isn't that funny all it's all the kind of the same because you can't like paint the prophet Muhammad right sure yeah you can't draw him and all especially in cartoons right yeah they all share the same books to the Old Testament same flood yeah they're all driven from like the oldest tomes possible but yeah Nick what's your views on God I grew up like not really having conversations about God you know or like Christianity or anything my mom wouldn't mention it here and there you know but I just was like I didn't really know anything about it and then around Middle School my mom wanted to put me in a Christian School and I was like all right ████ it let's go and then the whole time ████ dog
6:52 Mo Jesus and then the whole time my dad was like don't believe any of that ████ so he's like telling me what yeah he just was like he's like don't let him ████ brainwash you it's all ████ nonsense he's here to say like that so your mom is Christian but your dad's not she I don't like I don't know what how she grew up as far as religion um I think she would go to church a little bit but I think it's very loose you know like and I think that's how kind of I am these days it's like it's very loose how I think about religion in God but for the most part too like half a good chunk of our family is like Muslim right and my mom's side in Singapore and then a good chunk of my mom's beliefs I think are a Christian but it's very loose you know um but growing up so I went to Christian School I didn't know anything about it all these kids were like have you accepted Jesus as your lord and savior and I was like what like what are you talking about and they're like well Jesus Lord and Savior blah blah blah this is what
7:43 heaven is you should accept Jesus as your lord and savior so you can go to heaven and I was like okay I'll do that tonight so I was like oh yeah I accept Jesus my Lord's savior because they're asking you know I'm gonna start doing all that stuff but I didn't really have any core understanding of what the Bible I had no context like going into it because they're they're asking about uh how we feel about God right or what is your views on God what is your religious beliefs if any oh ████ no this is right everything's correct still okay we ████ up huh we gonna do it again no it's good no it's fine it's a conversation what are your what are your current views like where did you end up basically yeah why what did you did you think your answer didn't apply is I thought it was good no because then we we mix religion with God because it kind of is the same yeah depending on what what your understanding of God is right but then like
8:34 so I don't think I'd go back to an institution but I do see myself getting deeper into religious or Bible studies and then maybe having a spiritual connection but I I would I would like to I don't know so the thing with institutions right is it's easily corruptable there's so many Hypocrites you have a hierarchy um and and then like I might disagree with their philosophy or how they interpret it so so so then it gets heady and I think that pulls away maybe from from maybe plus the hardcore people just ruin everything that's the thing I heard that if it's too much if it's shoved down your throat it's hard like like veganism yeah yeah people can't even dance because like there should be dancing about God or some ████ it's like yeah god dude what's in about incapable religion like that yeah it's like they
9:24 just make up the stupidest rules and it turns you off right yeah what happened to me like it's illogical Christian School turned me off and I was like I was like dude I'm an atheist I guess I would label myself that for a while yeah and then once I started getting older and started hanging out with different people from different religions you realize like oh so much of it is way more cultural than anything else like it's not really about like of course it's the word butts depending who you hang out with but it's like it's dependent on what the message of the religion is but for the most part it's like how what you do every day like so much of people's events and their cultures based off how they go to church the things they do before and after church or whatever and their Community within Church yeah so like I think the more I hang around with everyone I realize that like oh yeah like everything is good like you could take pieces from Christianity or or Islam and you could find something in
10:15 the middle of like oh yeah like these are all great messages but what you choose to leave your life by is your own business you know but how you view faith and everything sure and I thought it was kind of my attitude anytime uh there's a lot of humans that come together they just ████ it all up like I don't know call me like ████ cynical but it's like so when there's power and influence and things like that right it attracts the wrong people most religions all it's supposed to do is create an organized Society where everyone agrees upon the rules and also creates a system of like caring for each other yeah but almost every single ████ religion does the opposite of what they're supposed to do you know like oh yeah they're supposed it's like love your neighbor but then they can't stop judging the ████ out of each other and then being parents to each other are they like you come into a
11:06 church there's so much rumors and drama and people talking ████ behind each other's backs and it's like where's the where's the love here like I don't get it right or like there's just a lot of these like snobbery and just every institution has this and then to me I'm like um maybe it's just better to have small Bible study groups or like people that are like-minded and it's just like let's just do community service and then I'm like that's effective and that's pretty solid but you don't always have to do it in under the guise of a religion or God and I'm like now I just want to connect with people that are um a part of doing effective things rather than being like a snobby group that are just like on their High horses the purists need to ████ off yeah like the purest or the worst part of it because then it's like you're not in because of that you're not in because you're gay you're not in because of that go because you do this you're not in yeah it's like oh my god
11:57 dude like there's no room for like literally what Jesus was talking about it's just forgiveness and stuff it's when there's rules yeah you know there's no right or wrong everyone can believe in what they want a lot of these religions have different Idols but similar stories and beliefs and ways of life that people should live by to be a good person and to you know be grounded and find an understanding yeah um so I think it it just depends what was your personal like road with that um I mean kind of similar my family wasn't super religious we went to church and stuff growing up my my grandma and some other relatives were pretty religious but I did like Sunday school when I was really little but kind of just weaved onto that but I think I found my beliefs in spirituality just more so on my own and figuring out what I truly believe in and what I want to
12:48 live by every day so I mean it's still figuring it out I don't know which is what which is what yeah I mean I do believe there's some sort of higher power or understanding that I can't comprehend and I think it's just things in life that are I don't know Finding ways to ground myself and deal with situations and you know creating my own belief system I don't think it goes in any specific category um I would be curious honestly to try out different religions you know understand what other people believe but on my own terms I feel you know go try the cold ████ last party try it first you want a good foundational system try it first and just see do the more like less commitment ones I also it's hard
13:39 without seeing it you know yeah yeah I'm like my brain I like I like proof and understanding and science it's hard for me to believe in something if I don't have a physical proof or reason because you're a little more of a real no I don't think I've personally yet experienced something where I'm like oh my God that was God I you know he's talking to me I haven't had that yet so I don't know that's that's kind of where I'm at it's complicated but for me it's it's hard to not see the clear Money Maker all of them turn into like you go in right and you see this ████ cold ass statue with like gold ████ finishing and the best like jewelry in the robes and then like you come in and then and then I'm like so you're telling me
14:29 if I pay x amount of dollars my you know curses or sins or whatever it's forgiven and it's like hey that's kind of scab over here's 10 grand I'm gonna do whatever sins I want what's God's venmo right and then you go to every single in religious institution like you go to like um like a Buddhist or Shinto temple in Japan like there's wishing wells and then they they don't ████ around there's a menu right there and they're like for a hundred bucks you get this wishing you for a thousand bucks you could wish whatever it's straight up there's a ████ menu and then so I'm like I prefer a menu yeah and I'm like you know I want an A on my 10. mozzarella sticks yeah yeah I'm gonna spend a grand yeah I'm on a on my test I'm gonna do that you know so like it beats passing around the guilt basket for sure yeah it's like just from the other direction I pretend like I don't see it what about uh what about you
15:20 Colleen um so I went to a private Christian School in elementary school and we even had class for church where like the whole school would have to go to church chapel chapel yeah Chapel that's what it's called and um in in school I've always been a very curious person so as a kid I would just always ask questions and there are certain questions that I was asking as a kid that would disrupt the classroom or great or you were the one about is Santa real the point where I was getting calls home based yeah some questions yeah it only got the answers my dad was atheist my mom's Christian oh and so you know my mom would probably scold me a little bit
16:11 uh my dad would pull me aside and say never stop asking questions for real though um yeah so how conflicting and yeah well yeah my dad pulled me aside I was a daddy's girl though too um so he pulled me I never stop asking questions and my dad was the type of person that um actually kind of like dove into different religions and again cool different things that he thought resonated with him and applied it to his own life yeah um so uh my first impression of religion was very controlling and felt like you were allowed to ask questions and if you did then you were the problem and it was just that conditioning that I was just like there's something up about that um so yeah I think that you say Jesus is the truth the way the life I'm like bro
17:01 just chill like a little bit yeah yeah yeah it's a little how are you so sure well see it'd be like it'd be like statements like that to be like so how much of the truth and what is the truth right they couldn't answer well there's no answer there's no answer it's just well that's what Jesus would do right yeah I don't like the cop-out answer we put an ice cube in the boiling water real quick and just make sure we cannot exactly right disrupting classes Proclaim Authority argument that they they're like I talked to God the other day and then this and this and I'm like well why why do you get to have authority what Discord server was that yeah or like or like they would you know people would do this all the time where they would like disguise their true intentions behind what God Said but then you're like that that's not what
17:52 happened that's your interpretation that's whatever and then you're like well you can't be you can't speak from Authority here because we both can that was my problem I was just like you don't have an answer that seems rational to me yeah and it was just like that's just the way it is and so to me that just never made sense in my head because but then it's like okay well you know religions a sense of belief and belief is a whole other topic and have faith right faith is the part that always gets me a little bit right yeah right that argument this is the flaw well two also two I was raised around like you know this very Southern woman my mom's Southern too but this very very very Southern woman from like the pit of Georgia um she wouldn't even let her kids wear like Disney sweaters because that's like worship which false god it's like a ████ what the ████ extremist there's
18:44 no joy in anything like you can't even watch a movie or something because you might like it too much and you don't you're not paying attention to Jesus secular sir that's a false idol as well right everything ████ everything bro on the flip side though I do there are a lot of things that I missed about being a part of a religion in the church in the community because it's like a huge family right like you know whatever that just gossips all the time yeah but there are people you like from there and every week there's something going on and then there's just like there's a feeling behind everyone working together on a cause so like if you go together uh on a mission trip or something like that right and you can do that secular like join a non-profit or whatever ever but I think just the whole growing up together in a town-like Community when you live in a big city I think that we it's so
19:35 easy to be isolated or in small clicks when you're in a big city or too independent to where you feel kind of lonely so I think the social aspect is pretty cool another thing is like everyone believing the same thing I think that it creates some form of uniformity when it comes to like the rules are the same you know what I mean like like the ethics are the same the rules are the same yeah you have like gossip but it's not as different as like I feel like I could I could trust the members sure versus like it might be a false sense of trust but I don't feel like anyone's out here to steal from me and kill me right whereas like in the outside world like you don't really know you got to build that Rapport right you don't really know your co-worker could be a person that could kill you you don't know yeah right yeah I think uh coming from like because we grew up so strictly like I feel like
20:27 I went full circle from being like a hardcore like I was a hardcore Christian I was that annoying person that was always trying to witness or always trying to like skew the conversation towards a way that I can score god points you know it was very much that and then um yeah right it becomes competitive at a point of Christian Arts yeah and then um and then again you you realize later that it was never really about God like it was about everything else yeah yeah and that's the thing that like now that you know after I've distanced myself from that and the big Catalyst that really severed the tie was seeing was going to one of those Mega meetings like I flew to Florida and I saw how much money they were asking from all these broke people and I was like I just can't see them doing this every single day and like you really just see the system and that's what turns you off to it but also like I try to maintain a lot
21:18 of the good things that I've learned because we're at a micro scale there's such great interactions person to person at the same time you know religion as a whole is it responsible for some of the bloodiest battles the globe has ever seen of course but then you know at a smaller scale like the the values and the the like Minds that come from that there's so much treasure there too and uh no nobody gets the community aspect more writer than some religions do you know and I mean think about the some of the most religious and traditional cultures they have they have the lowest for divorce rate they have they still have kids they they're not like big city atheists where we're so lonely we don't have kids we don't ████ you know it's just so different yeah so like so like you know like the uh um what do you call it like um they're saying Mormons and
22:09 like a lot of the pilgrims are not pilgrims but Quakers those communities are actually still popping out kids and they're the they're the ones preserving like the Western World or something yeah yeah I think nowadays I have more I have more respect for religion than I did when I was in the religion which is yeah same like I don't I never want to dissuade anybody from I don't want to tell them that God's not real that's not interesting to me like if you believe in that and you're a good person I don't want to change anything about you like you've got it you know because if that's what it takes for you to live happily and what business is that of mine like I love when people are happy doing what they do and believing what they believe it has no effect on you exactly but it's but from my own personal Road like yeah I didn't end up in the same place as them but I understand it and I love it and I think that's amazing that people
22:59 can exist there and you know just be the best people they can be I didn't care about God or anything like that until I found Joel Osteen's church and now I'm all in he's the man because because like I believe in having like the biggest church you could ever have and it's his church is way nice than everyone else you need a big church so that you can reach God because God wants you to be rich dude yeah exactly God wants you to project his voice as big as loudly as loud you know God wants me to have a private plane so I could get closer to him so he no he can spread the word with more like easier and without waiting in line that's true at the airport faster time is money exactly yeah the magnitude of that so staggering there's a reason what do you think about our cute little churches and then you look at that it's like temples bro there's a really good movie that recently came out it was about a preaching couple that became one of the first um yes yeah TBN or whatever yeah
23:50 they made sick money dude they were the people who did the holy water in the in the mail I think yeah yeah yeah holy water yeah they won Channel 40. foreign
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