0:00 thank you [Music] Montana has a new law can't wait to hear it it's called SB 419 what do you think it does the big one nope nope not skateboarding not mushrooms uh you're gonna like it okay good we're blind why do you think I'll like it something to do it's self-defense you can't pretend to be blind yeah if it's something he's gonna like what do you think it's about yeah that's actually more fun game yeah based on the mind of Nick Dunn legalizing beating up minorities wow criminalizing a wife beating their husbands send it to jail yeah send them to jail I gotta move to Montana then brother oh my goodness you you may want to after you
0:50 hear this so Montana's new law makes it illegal for um app for like phone apps to provide service um that accesses tick tock what oh yeah Montana is the first state to make Tick Tock technically illegal yeah within state lines you just can't each time a user accesses Tick Tock do you guys use tick tock frequently or is offered the ability to download it or is offered access to it that's That's crazy dude I mean I don't really use it that much do you guys want to talk a lot I do I used to I learned a lot of things yeah
1:40 I do too I learn I learned a lot of things like history whatever I hear a lot of things about how people learn a lot about Tick Tock because I go on it too sometimes but very rarely like super rarely only when you ask me to check my email on it and I couldn't figure that out oh yeah sorry I couldn't hear that I go on it sometimes I'm very skeptical of the information that comes out on it because it's just some guy in his bathroom talking yeah yeah sometimes yeah but obviously there's like The credibility well it's also like the lens of them giving information is for you the consumer to be like oh that's actually really cool I learned something new it hit that dopamine effect of like oh I learned something yeah and then I follow and then sometimes learning too much is like mental masturbation in a lot of ways so you feel like because I I'm dude I'm so yeah I'm so like that
2:30 guy where I'm like oh I'm reading this ebook and I'm reading this and then after a while you're like yeah but like I could tell myself like oh I read so much like look at this but if I'm not applying the stuff that I'm actually reading then it kind of doesn't matter but for tick tock I feel like people get in that habit I think it depends on what you watch because the stuff that I watch is yes you can learn stuff but um what I really like watching is just people doing like people making things or like whatever because that ████ you could see the process of it so you're learning by watching it there's no right or wrong they're just doing it you know what I like to watch is one guys they clean a real dirty rug I've seen those I get lost in them see but not on tick tock on Instagram I learned how to clean my carpets from Tick Tock see I learned how to get rid of the dirt on the grout in your on your bathroom tiles you can learn how to like the garden you can
3:20 learn a bunch of stuff that you could just apply right does that mean that you uh the reasons that they wanted to make it illegal do you agree with them I I may or what was the reason what was the reason because well because of uh mixed people yeah oh that's that's like I think when it's all said and done that's the main reason yeah that they're using but then do you would you rather like because there's obviously the Facebook leaks and stuff like ever you're being spied on regardless of what nation but it's okay with but it's okay when your own country's spying on you that makes me feel safe it makes you feel okay you see that's that's the counter argument to that it's like dude you're being spied on regardless yeah but also the um what about it what about the just purely economic standpoint where it's like should a foreign company have such a
4:10 large market share if the algorithm's good because then but what if that means your American dollars are constantly leaving your country yeah what kind of American are you dude I don't know yeah so shouldn't you download Truth social is that still an app it's still a thing huh you want to get other insults for me in my life I don't know I have no idea what's right I think it's it's like a YouTube but if they're banning Tick Tock for the whole service economic reason it's like why are we still why aren't they Banning Amazon for like allowing people to ship stuff from China it's like in America's an American company because maybe it makes a huge difference they sell is all from China yeah yeah through the American Marketplace
5:02 Productions in China or okay if they could put a rule to not let these phones download the app why don't they make it so that you have to download this app by using this American app so that they you know what I mean they put a filter so that way everybody gets a little piece I think the only way to solve this is that's what they tried yeah they did that dude went to Congress and he spoke about hope to me being cynical that whole thing was hey you're making x amount uh uh millions and hundreds of million dollars uh we want to cut okay so come to Congress and tell us why we should keep you that's to me what that was that's that's what I was saying like it's it really is even though you hear all these other different reasons about how it's uh a detriment to American society how it's a bad influence on kids all that ████ is a vehicle to just get money it just comes
5:53 down to cash okay and power and like domination of the market it's it's a macro thing of like a micro level of like you're opening a nightclub in a certain city and then you get visited by certain you know people yeah they're like hey you should pay us protection money yeah um give us a cut like if we want a 10 off the top of whatever gonna make that's just what the US government I feel like is doing when they invite it's kind of what every government has to do like if if you've got a foreign thing that's killing your market like if if there's anything you can put some tariffs on you know yeah you gotta do something that's that's usually where it goes I mean they would have they tried a million things when the Japanese Auto Market was dominating and still is now but we don't like it right they've been trying so what happened then like it's well they started making they I mean they started taxing a s███████ and then also they were doing assemblies like
6:45 here Stateside yeah forced them to have manufacturing plans yeah yeah see but Tick Tock in China I think they have something similar but it's apparently like the algorithm is completely it's more fossil very good like national pride right like like you like education watching things yeah people build things they have kids building things like science projects so then the kids grow up thinking oh I want to be like that or like oh let's do this that's all yeah that's always an interesting thing because I was also on board of like yeah when I look at or when I look at what Tick Tock kind of is about here when you see who your popular stars are and uh the ones there it's like there is a difference but also you are a product of your population so whether they may not have as much like thoughtiness in their Tick Tock but they don't have as much thoughts like period yeah yeah in their cultural society in
7:36 China they're just less things like that yeah like it might be more taboo there there might they might be just more underground but here it's very surface right it's very empowered right it's not it's not a a thing to be ashamed of as much so I think like I don't think they're making us see more ass I think we're trying to to show more ass I think it's just what do you want to see out here because that's yeah because that's what it is like it dictates one of the complaints is like oh look at look at the tick tock in China it's all like farming and productive ████ it's like yeah they have they just have more of that right and that's not a mystery to us we always we still get some of that stuff but we want to see some butt cheeks too yeah I mean and almost there's a butt cheeks shaking for dollar bills there's just more people showing cheeks like because that's what captures you know the audience and it's also serving what they want uh like they being like whoever's like kind of
8:26 writing the algorithm yeah it's like hey I'm gonna serve them this and they're gonna like it yeah because you know it's like if you watch the documentary American president with Michael Douglas and that betting Aaron Sorkin wrote it um there's a scene with Michael J fox and um Martin Sheen where they're arguing about like oh like you could lead a horse to water and then um Michael J fox says I'm like but when it's sand um you know like what do you do like you're basically like pulling a trick on them and I'm pulling for paraphrasing Michael Douglas's character President says yeah but they're stupid to know that it's sand and they'll just keep drinking the sand and that's what they're served that's basically what Tick Tock serving is like Hey we're going to show them all this you know whether they like it or not it's crap but we're going to convince them some other they like it and you know what do we have we have like we love it exactly that's why I'm like they're if and they're not gonna straight up say that like that guy when he was at that
9:16 that uh open was it when he was like speaking in front of the house like he's not gonna go I'm just showing you guys what you wanted yeah yeah like he's not gonna say that yeah yeah he's not gonna say that but it is true it's based on what you watch because if you took it away yeah they took it away we would find a way to ████ find it again and also too in China right they got no only fans creators over there they're not as good as the Americans they are only fans girls are destroying bro yeah they're raking it in I mean it just comes down to cultural values honestly like it's not a it's not a secret that Asian cultures just center around a different form like do you think Montana's being racist I don't I don't think it's being racist I I think if they want to use those reasons as to why they don't have it yeah I think that's fine because it seems like it's like a masked thing like stay American we don't want any
10:07 influence from any other I think it's fair to say like I don't think it's a racial thing I think I think it sucks that like China huh it sucks hey nowadays like we'll have you occupy the whole country let's say like Ireland is smart enough to develop uh tiktok yeah Mick talk yeah and they were and it was fun that they were spying on us they're doing this to crumble our society right how would we react to it as a as a country you know the US and I I feel like it's just an island a small little tiny little island before that could be a little bit different it would be different yeah it would 100 be different because there's also not a lot of like secondary and tertiary things that are going on too like we're kind of buying exactly yeah right like you know Ireland is just you know they're either Lind yeah yeah but also people a lot of people don't realize too that Tick Tock
10:57 and the people that own it have a hard time in China too right like they are not getting along 100 with the Chinese government either yeah right they are fighting kind of both things like if you they're just like in the middle yeah like if you read up they they get stepped on a s███████ too by the government because the government has a right to just by any point stick their hand in and go oh wait hey yeah don't do that like they basically just took everything yeah dude okay check them all you guys know what he looks like right yeah okay very handsome he's like oh you think I was gonna say he's not the most attractive guy in the world but the tough guy attractive man white girls were saying he's attractive his wife they're both very learned graduate like the top schools and all that they're the power couple and I'm thinking I don't think they're real I feel like the the true head of tick tock look like Jack ma nerdy just all he did was study his
11:47 whole life but this dude is like an international looking spy yeah and his wife is like you know tall I think like Stanford Harvard and all that stuff I don't think they're they're real because just to show a good front I bet the real like the founder of tick tock and the guy's face is all scrunched yeah and it looks blind when you wear sunglasses it was like where's like where's like hoodies it could be yeah I mean ultimately the head of every Chinese company is ████ China it's never it's never the dude right as is what I think it's just too like how many like American CEOs do you know that are like Suave and like you know against Mark Zuckerberg the MMA champion [Music] developed somewhere else and then China bought it
12:38 Tick Tock I thought it was always in China and then they really they just like changed hands in China no it might be I mean I mean because bite dance is like the main owner of it's like Ireland to come up with it I just remembered that it was bought by China but I don't know if it was developed in China maybe not yeah maybe but then if you read that it could have been like it was developed in China and then the Chinese government bought it so they can make money because like you know they don't they don't do the whole oh we want a piece of your company they'll just take the company I mean it was musically and then and then it musically got bought but I don't know if musically was Chinese I don't know because then it wouldn't make sense for China to develop an app to know that the government is good musically musically was Chinese but I think they also do it for like I don't think Jack was like oh the government's gonna leave me alone I
13:28 think he knew yeah but they probably had a plan and he made so much money yeah so much money and then finally the government's like all right yo yeah yeah they can step in at any time I mean dude that with what's her name is it bing bing Fang oh when she like disappeared when she disappeared and then now she's like oh no I was good so if stuff like that happens it's like doesn't that make people it doesn't discourage people from wanting to even start I think the ones on the fence it does but if you're like an artist or you're a business person and that's your true passion you're probably like you know what no I gotta do this to survive like my own livelihood my own well-being they probably still do it right but they know that something's gonna happen once they get to a certain level but you also but you also don't assume you're gonna be like the richest person in China I think it's discouraging if you moved from here to China if you're born it's always been
14:18 that way it's always been like hey you don't know you know like do me a favor I'll do you a favor right like even the shows that I worked on they would someone would there'd be like one representative that's the government's opinion yeah and they would have to stop everything for this one dude he would be on set on like stages that they built like all this stuff and just go no change the music make it a China music like it would be doing like some Usher ████ like no Drake China music today everything changes that day or they go like uh more patriotic or or they told Hawk because Hawk's hair was like died like Hat wear a hat wow because you have to show that you're proud of your genetics you can't have blonde hair on a Chinese show if you're a guy yeah it's like weird it's like little things like that this is just one guy and all these people who were ████ billionaires around them have to ████ listen to them that's great it's not otherwise
15:08 they lose yeah then they lose their right to make money it's almost like that it's like hey we're letting you be rich yeah so you have to do what we say because there's also ethereum so I'm at a uh I don't know if he's Mafia but like he's basically underworld guy in Thailand uh he's from Malta and he told me my whole life my whole career I only wanted to make five percent of what my boss made that dude has like a strip mall he's a poor she's got like clubs because all he he's all I focus on is five percent I don't want to be greedy so that way the people above me don't look out for me and like are like cautious of me so there's probably people like that in China they know what's going on like billionaires run in the same Circle and they talk to each other they probably help each other out and they go hey don't do this it's going to cause concern and you'll lose it they just kind of skate between the lines just
15:58 enough to where and Jack probably was like nah Playa I'm gonna do what I want yeah and the government's like okay come come meet with us for a few days there's no history of anyone ever winning against them and you don't hear you don't hear Jack say anything now yeah if you want to hear what he has to say you gotta watch Chen Yoon
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