0:00 So, because of recent events, I thought about you know, over the course of JK, we've had to take down maybe a handful of videos. >> Dude, why are you doing that face? >> Why are you laughing at me when I'm talking about such a sensitive >> Gottfried right now. >> kind of subject. >> imitation. Yeah, you're doing a bit. >> No, but yeah. >> Now he's standing up. Now you're a general. What's going on, bro? What are you doing? >> Relax, dude. Just tell us the story. >> It's scary. You know why it's ████ scary? Because when we got on YouTube, we thought the First Amendment was the First Amendment. And then we realized there's no such thing as a First Amendment. It's fake, dude. So, we used to make all kinds of crazy videos, and you can see a one of our first videos was called chigga hunting. >> And what's that about? What was the premise of that one?
0:50 >> Well, we thought we were going to be So, this is this is how ████ me and Joe are. Like we really So, you you know, when you grow up in LA and you used to listen to 92.3 The Beat you would know erase all color lines, right? >> Yeah, you would. >> We heard that so ████ much on the radio that we were like, "Oh, that means we could be anybody we want." So, one of the first skits we made, we were these two rednecks. We thought we were rednecks, and they were trying to hunt Chinese people, and we thought it'd be funny to just call them chiggas. Not knowing that that also means bugs. That also means >> Oh, it does? >> Yeah, there's a type of bug called chiggas. It also means It could also mean, I guess, like Chinese people that are wannabe whatever, right? I don't know. >> sure, yeah. >> But >> Sure, sure. >> We're just being like young 20s guys
1:42 just creating bad content, objectively bad videos. And then when the internet got a hold of it, I think people understood the intent. But nowadays, like uh people don't know where where uh where people are coming from anymore. So, I would say it's almost like when um you know when uh Kanye made 808s & Heartbreak? >> Yeah. >> If you're a Kanye fan, you're like, I see what he was going through. I see why he made this album. But, that I think that type of listening and content consuming era is over. It's more from the other side. You entertain me, and if it's not up to my standards or moral or values, >> Mhm. >> that's wrong. >> So, it's more scrutiny. >> More scrutiny. So, over the years, we have to go, oh ████ there's a lot of stuff that >> We made a lot of trigger videos. >> A lot of trigger videos. They don't believe we're experimenting. They don't
2:32 believe that we're ████ So, we got to take a lot of them down. And you know, me and Joe, I think we have a pretty good like temperature, or not I don't say bad temperature of what's safe and what's not. So, uh there were a couple times where we either sign with either agency, a company, or work on brand deals, and they'll do their own scan. Hey, can you take this this this this down? Or even then, we'll have a certain uh guest come on. And you know, some guests, like probably like Jackson Wang or whatever, they'll have such a big PR team. They'll be like, we need a 60-day window before and after this person comes on, where it's clean. >> Wow. >> Quite a few scrubs of different types over the years. >> Wow. Yeah, I guess when you see Rich Brian change his name, it's probably >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
3:22 >> I guess you can do anything when nobody knows you. And then you get known, and then it's like Uh wait a minute. >> Isn't that the cycle? It's like you you ruffle feathers to get in the door. You know, like all these like new people? >> One of my favorite videos of uh is it Dan- Danny Glover or Donald Glover? >> Danny DeVito. >> No, dude. >> Love them. >> Childish Gambino. >> I think it's Danny Real. >> One of my favorite videos of his? Donald Glover. Have you guys seen this is old old school YouTube? >> to say. >> He's like grape-ing his roommate. >> Yeah, it's bro grape. >> Yeah, Bro Grape and it's so ████ funny, but I'm sure that video is buried. >> he hates that video now. >> Yeah, he probably had to take that down. >> Yeah. >> Cuz ████ Arista Records they won't work with him or whatever the ████ >> Arista Records? I mean, it's a product of its time though. That was the internet back then. >> I know. >> You know, that's what's a little bit
4:12 unfair is like when you look at the past through today's lens, it's kind of like not really fair to do that. >> Yeah, even when I watch Breakfast at Tiffany's I'm like, that's fine. It gets a pass. I understand the time, the sentiment. >> It's going to come back, I think. I think this this this era of us being very like, you know, sensitive cuz I feel like it's kind of tapering off, but I feel like, you know how all these kids nowadays are wearing like 90s stuff and all that. I feel like the jokes and stuff are going to come back around, too. >> It feels like it's already happening, but it does take more skill to do it well nowadays. >> Yeah, and and you got the skill half of the skills don't be online while you're doing it. >> use AI to do it. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> If anything, that's going to bring it back faster. Because now we get desensitized to so much insane ████ all the time. You're just going to watch Martha Stewart like,
5:02 you know, just rapping Tupac and we're just going to be like, man, this is really good. And then everything everything in our mind is going to just be like, what you know, what's real? So when you hear a kid say the F word, you're just like, whatever. Right? We're just over it. >> It is just funny how it only works in one direction though. Like you have uh you you can be like a clean comedian and if you make an off-color joke, you're dead. But you can be Snoop Dogg and start cleaning yourself up and you're a brand deal for everything that exists on the planet. >> off all ████ up. >> the thing. I think it's where you start, which is why the new generation has hope because they're all starting off saying everything we said in the 90s and it's kind of cool to see. >> One of my favorite videos and this is a fan favorite, too, if you guys are like from old school, uh but we made a whole t-shirt off of that video that we took down.
5:52 Do you know what I'm talking about? >> for it? The one that you gave me? >> Cuz it says in a Chinese Uh-huh, exactly. That one. That shirt was also one of our best-selling shirts. So, I think it it it I would say it probably outgrew the video itself. >> Wow. >> Because it was like such a thing where like, you know, once you find out you can't say the N-word, then you're like, "Oh, there's N-words in every language." The people they want to like find the clever ways to get around it. >> on a t-shirt. >> So, >> Like that thought realm, when you actually put it in words, you're like, "Okay, I get where you came from, but nobody thinks like that, by the way. Nobody's just like, I can't say it in this language, let me say it in every other language and put it on a t-shirt." That's crazy. >> that shirt that had two characters? >> Four characters. >> But, so like the thing is >> shirt. Well, the one he gave me, and the reason why I'm very passionate about this, and he had he had those characters because I went to my boy Jason Lin's house one time. Chinese dude in Kendras.
6:44 And so, I didn't I don't read Chinese. I didn't know what it said. But, his mom came out and was like really bothered by me. But, she always loved me before. >> By the ████ Was it by the ████ at the bottom? >> I I feel like she was confused by this and understood this, and then in con- like in context, you just know it's not good. >> Cuz it just says that ████ >> Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, to her, she's just it's not like the like so bad. It's just like, "Why is it bad? I don't fully understand why you would do that." But, she just feels it. >> She's purely confused. >> But, she's always like like I've been his like teacher and stuff like that, so she always looked at me with this like, >> Yeah. >> I I just remember this confused face. >> Maybe it's if she don't like the font. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's too bold. >> Maybe it's the occasion. >> Actual wording. >> Yeah, but the thing is I think it zoom if you zoom out a little bit, it's like, yes, there's the the I think I don't
7:34 know, maybe this is my own battle, but there's that N-word, right? Which was invented when? I don't know, ████ >> 1800s. >> 1805. >> 1800s or whatever. But, that word in all the other languages that don't even have that negative context is centuries old. You know what I mean? So it's it's kind of like uh I don't know, it's kind of funny to go, "Hey, you can't say that word in ████ ancient Latin or whatever." And it's like, "Motherfucker, this s███'s been around since this other new word you came up with that you gave it a negative meaning." So I just I don't know, I just kind of >> That's a good reason to say >> I don't know, this is like the I guess the rebellious nature >> NAACP, your thoughts? >> You know, I've been reviewing this word and I found out since it's dawn in the 1800s >> you guys don't see what I see. >> Agree to disagree. >> Sound it out with me. Just sound it out with me. >> Yeah. No, I I I see what you're saying cuz Tagalog has words for that, too.
8:25 >> Yeah. >> Say it. Say it. Do you know it? >> Yeah. Say it. >> But we might but we the vi- the video might not be viewable in the Philippines after I say it. >> Oh, no. >> No, they don't care. >> Dude, I think that's still a more honorable way to get your videos taken down versus just like a copyright strike on like a song you danced to. >> There's ones like that, too. Cuz we had one we have >> I mean, I'm that was my whole career is all I'm saying. >> Oh. No, ours was uh we had one that was like a shady one cuz you know how like the the the group that rhymes with blue, they like to do shady stuff. So this group >> Blueish? >> Yeah, blueish. These guys we had a a whole we would you know we would make skits and we would have like a background track, right? Just for like the music or whatever. It was a royalty-free
9:15 background track company that they would license out to people. >> Yeah. >> And then I guess one of these blue companies came in and bought it. >> Sucks, man. >> And all of a sudden sends copyright strikes to everybody and we're like oh, ████ What the ████ >> Crazy, actually. >> So we have to take we have to take them down. Um because you get hit with crazy like uh fines and stuff like that. >> Yeah, there that happened to a lot of those royalty companies, actually. >> Yeah, and you're like, "What the f███?" >> They just got bought out. >> blued out, yeah. >> And what's What's funny is like on in that royalty-free archive, when you're editing, you're just like, "Oh, I need something that builds like kind of like, uh, a little bit of suspense." And it's just like a do do do do do do. And that's the one that's like, "$70,000 FOR that ████ song." >> You owe all your ad rev right now. >> For the ████ do te do te do. What the
10:07 ████ >> That's like when Michelle Phan had like a record scratch in the intro of her videos, remember that? >> Yeah. >> And then someone claimed it that it was their record scratch? >> I I think she had to give a bunch of money to them. >> That's ridiculous, though. >> Like a little intro. >> Yeah. >> Nothing. >> That's why everybody like >> claimed a record scratch and then got hella money? >> That's why everybody loves Kevin MacLeod, if you've ever seen that name. He's one of the, um, he's made like a thousand plus royalty-free tracks, and he refuses to change the, um, the the rights on them, because he's been approached a million times like, "Hey, I want to buy your thing out so I can charge everyone who's used it." Cuz it would retro charge everybody that used it in the past. And he's like, "Nah, I'm going to die with this. Like, I'm never going to give it up." Yeah. >> That's so cool, right? >> Yeah. >> That is freaking cool. >> Yeah, what a great guy. >> Why don't you do that? >> Do what? >> Sound effects. >> You just a bunch of give a free all your
10:58 free You give free music to your friends anyway, and then you want money, but you don't get it, so you might as well just >> much of a philanthropist. He does it for free. >> You and you You are philanthropist. Think about all the maps you built on like GTA V. >> Yeah, those are those are those are fun. And they're free. >> You know, we did also try, uh, to like a way around some of those videos where we had some like cuz we have to take videos down for certain reasons. Some are lawsuits, some are licensing, some are like super famous guests, so you got to scrub. Uh, some are just straight canceled. Some are for sure our mistake, bad taste, bad artistic decision. >> with that one. >> Probably a majority of those actually. >> Yeah. >> And then there are some that were like I know this is probably offensive, but we like it. So we want to fight to the death for it.
11:48 >> That's worth it. That I think is worth it. >> there I think we even started another channel, like a little back burner page channel. >> Just to put up ████ content? >> up there for our true fans that would love it. But the problem is with those they still leak somehow. You know, they go out there. >> Yeah. >> So we we we did have a page like that. I don't even even know if we still have it up actually. >> That's why that's why Patreon is crazy to me cuz Patreon's there's those moments where we'll finish filming a video, we'll be cracking up, and then it's like right before the next take somebody's like Should we should we put that one on Patreon though because >> best videos though, I think. >> when you said that thing and it's like and then we have that like kind of serious 30 seconds where like yeah, probably yeah, it's probably a good idea. >> We're lucky that it's that it's worked in our favor cuz remember how like above the influence would put stuff on their Patreon that they didn't want in the main channel and then it would just get
12:38 leaked anyways. >> Yeah, but ours is really even if it got leaked, we're only actually hurting ourself. We're only talking about ourself usually. >> Oh, yeah, you were yeah, that's true. >> like a really huge celebrity. >> Talking about K-pop stars. >> In a culture that has that like nah, dude. Ours is just like maybe potentially causing beef in the family or something. >> Carne asada specifically, dude. >> Makes the makes the carne asada go bad. >> Did um back when like the back when that Amber Liu stuff happened, did you have to make any adjustments to those videos after the fact? >> Dude. They they we a lot of those ones like you know, like big stars or whatever, we have to do major adjustments. I think I just buried it in my memory.
13:29 >> Because you know like when you have like cuz also the bigger the operation >> Yeah. >> more ████ knobs you have to turn like crazy. So it's like we shot with let's say Amber for the whole day. >> Yeah. >> And then now it's like and we also don't release in chronological. So there's like okay, what videos are slated? Which one's taken down? And then at that time we probably had a merch arm, too. So we're like, "Oh ████ So that means that video is not going to push that shirt. Oh, so we probably should cancel the order on not maybe not order a thousand of those shirts." So it's like all kinds of ████ you know, like cuz it's like like a big spider web. >> Yeah, cuz even when that happened, I couldn't even understand what happened because it was so fragmented. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Like I was like trying to collect the data. I'm like, "What even occurred here?" >> Yeah, and on the back end everyone's just ████ scrambling like a chicken with head cut off type ████ Trying to And then and then hoping "Oh, I think we I think we contained it, but we don't
14:20 know. Sometimes you could still could be one random thing that went out." >> That must be so difficult where like you out of context can like barely say something and then it causes that much ████ damage control. >> Yeah. >> I remember I was getting breakfast with Joe when that happened. I was training Joe at the time and then he was just stressing out at breakfast. Like, "What the ████ I don't know what the f███?" And I'm like, "What happened?" He's explaining to me this whole situation. I don't like Ryan, I don't know what the ████ happened. And he's like, "No, no, that's fine. It's fine. I just got to figure this out." It's just all this ████ ████ Hey bro, I'm I'm sitting and we're eating together. He doesn't eat his food at all and I'm just eating the whole time. Just and he just on his phone like, "F███, ████ ████ f███." >> It's true though because like she's held to a different standard. >> Yeah. >> It won't make sense to us. >> No. >> And that's tough though cuz she's like hella cool. >> She's super cool. >> So freaking dope. >> She's so cool.
15:10 >> Just like a really normal good person, but when you're held at such a standard >> And then your management is like they technically are doing their job, but they're going to go way crazier beyond what you even asked for. >> Right. It's like if if Jackson Wang was here afterwards he'd probably be like, "Can we delete all videos?" >> That's literally why he couldn't come here, dude. And you know what? After I really started to try and be mature about ████ and I was like, that's a good call, Jackson. >> It's better that he does it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> That's a good call. It's mine for everybody. >> of you that's why he can't come cuz you're crazy and inappropriate. >> all kinds of ████ >> You made it a unwelcoming environment for him. >> You can't even ████ say that without laughing, dude. That's crazy. >> That's no one loves Carnosaur. >> Shut the ████ up.
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