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BetMGM App Found to Have Fake Accounts Taking Money from Real People

#poker#wsop#globalpayments#giftcards#usepaypal
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0:00 thank you [Music] do any of you guys use online betting apps for like sports or anything I used to um so I just got one because my neighbor does it every weekend uh every Sunday and we watch football together so yeah I get I got this St it's the BET MGM Scandal yeah ████ yeah I know all about this oh ████ what is this what happened what happened yeah so they're targeting Pro poker players uh through so Global Payments is like this company that runs all of the ████ bet MGM WSOP it's like they handle all of the payments the way that people can deposit money and like bet and all that stuff but they do it it's like a third party company that does it for wsop.com and uh bet MGM and like all these different sites well someone it's like specific

0:51 because they know that these poker players have like x amount of money in their accounts and if you ever deposited with e-checks they're like going down a list and basically hacking into these people's accounts and taking like ten thousand dollars and there's nothing that these poker players can do about it like so their Banks were like okay we got you it's fraud and like they had to file fraud reports or whatever but then Global Payments was like hey remember that money we stole you owe us that back yeah and they're like so it's a whole big ████ thing right now because it's super targeted it's like professional poker players that have X amount of money that have used e-checks because so far people that use PayPal haven't had a problem but like E-Check specifically yeah they got access to these people's bank accounts somehow and we're able to like just withdraw like tens of

1:42 thousands of dollars it was a whole I'm part of like poker Twitter like I didn't mean to be but all of a sudden all these poker Twitter started coming and then I just started following people one by one and now like my whole feed is all just poker people like with e-checks is it just like an electronic check that's all it is yeah basically it's the only way you can like do it like AC H transfer like like if you don't want to use PayPal I always use PayPal because I got really scared a lot of people were getting hit um but it seems to be only if they knew that you had a big win in poker so and then and then you had to used E-Check to deposit whoa not PayPal so I was like because they were like if you have you should delete your account right now if you haven't gotten hit yet because they pull it back from you really eradicate your wsop.com account like start a new one like just ████ cancel all of

2:32 those accounts get a new bank account get a new bank get a new everything get a new card is online poker legal now like for all states uh not for all states it's actually federally illegal um but in certain States it's regulated like Nevada New Jersey a couple other states Nevada New Jersey wsop.com regulates but they have like a monopoly on the regulation which is also ████ because they haven't updated their software or anything it just sucks like all around just sucks but so then there's these other companies like America's card room ignition um like 888 there's a lot of uh other online sites that okay yeah uh it's unregulated oh so it's like a Caribbean address or something and they yeah and they use like some loophole that's kind of like a giveaway like it's like something I bought gift

3:23 cards type of thing like when I bought like back then like these different gambling sites it was gift cards yeah and then that came in my account closet there it it the it shows up as like I bought something from China oh yeah see I never made a deposit because I always lose all my money I wouldn't know what it's like to cash out but I remember buying you know that person it was out like a gift card yeah yeah there's some loopholes I don't know I don't know the exact legal things but people are like well you shouldn't trust it because it's unregulated but these sites have been around for like 20 plus years yeah and so they're I don't know trust is a heavy word yeah I mean if you but the one that's trusted is wsop.com which is the one getting ████ hacked and they're like yeah we're not wsop.com's like we're not gonna help you like it's Global Payments that did it yeah

4:13 no they did they started sending collections after these people so now these People's Credit Card scores are gonna get yeah because of money that got stolen because of their ████ faulty system that's funny because it's not the first time the WSOP website got in trouble for like this ████ so I would say there was a moment called like Black Friday or something like that it's just like when I barely got into poker it was like 2008. it's when they just made all the online illegal and if you had money on that account it's just gone yeah so if you had like 150 000 on there some people like lost it was just gone more than six figures and in WSOP which is like one of the major ████ you know websites and that one guy with the cowboy hat he was involved in Doyle Brunson no no the younger one with a beard any skinny

5:05 four it was that guy it was a couple of other guys involved in it right and then when they became insulted there wasn't I forgot what the news was was so old but then it was like that's crazy how these things keep happening and then this wso Speedway website still stays alive yeah it just people still want to play poker that's the thing well they don't have no other choice yeah they're like okay well I want yeah I want to play poker I guess I'll just play on this it feels like such a modern um Ocean's 11 type Heist like yeah like a to date how you would do it now yeah it's like easier get all these like uh Pro poker players that are winning and then just get their info and then sign them up fake accounts for like betting sites well something similar to like FTX happened back then where like you

5:55 deposit your money and you play poker right but then they take your cash and these guys were playing poker with it or they were investing in it or buying houses or whatever so they're just numbers when you made a deposit and then so like when all of a sudden they try to cash out they were like oh well we don't got your cash well the one guy that's all over the news about that Friedman or what's his name yeah okay so he was part of the uh one of the poker sites oh really that went under it everyone lost their money that's so funny it's all connected when you're playing because you do live streams yeah for a poker do people see you're like like can they see any information about you can't see any information just my screen name okay yeah he's worried is what he's saying he's wondering well that's America's card room um I mean they see that they see my screen name but that's it yeah

6:46 damn do you think something like this could happen to you I mean definitely like any to you I mean you can get um not scarred got hacked uh and someone in Maryland was going out to eat every day like 200 at a time like buying McDonald's gift cards and ████ McDonald's gift cards but also like some other like oh nobody that buys McDonald's like no it was like a like fine dining person has good taste yeah credit card stuff now do you know Scott would tell us or Todd patellas that's the guy that uh well yeah he was actually the first one to speak up because like he was one of the first people to get targeted yeah and then he posted on a forum I can't remember which one it was but he posted on a forum about it kind of like

7:36 warning because see he's the one that went the police route he didn't know other people were getting targeted but then when he when um so this guy uh Joe Joseph um Sabine yeah his name his name on Twitter is to be we're actually we know him I know him he posted it on Twitter and then that's when Todd went was like oh I didn't know it was a bigger I've actually been been like attacking this on the legal route let me bring all of you in because he didn't know that it was a widespread issue among specifically poker players he just thought it was like he was a one-off this happens in real life too like my dad worked at a casino for like 20 years so like there are people just like going around seeing who's like winning big or whatever and then so like casinos half places where he could check their money in because you don't feel safe just take it yeah there's just you could keep your money in security boxes yeah like just taking like seven Grand or eight grand

8:26 like walking it straight to the parking lot at like 2 A.M in the morning you know so it's like this is just a digital version of like people like who's winning and who's gonna walk yeah but they got to get your in they have to like hack your info yes somehow and then check the E-Check thing exactly when you won that first tournament that one that was like ████ crazy yeah how did you guys get the money dude we got it in cash hilarious ████ bags like a regular bags like a movie yeah you walk to the Paris okay yeah we watched the Paris with the backpack and they loaded it with a hundred and ████ thousand million dollars but then did you have to sign the IRS form and ████ and then so what do you do with the bag you just go home I went to the bank with it straight to the bank yeah what's the bank with the 100 G's yeah and it was like a kind of a CD Bank too good we just wanted to take a picture with the cash because they're like we could we could write you a check I was

9:16 like nah I want to take a picture with files that's pretty bother though bananas dude there's no like let me deliver it in an armored car so they just they just give you bricks of cash at the ████ window oh God and then we're loading it into the bag and then they count it in front of you and we're just and they announced that they're like that's ten thousand twenty thousand thirty thousand forty thousand and like so you know it's like okay so 117 000 right and then you're like shut the ████ up yeah whisper please like wow yeah well when I went in the bank there was kind of a line for uh oh my gosh and I was like nervous as ████ this ████ guys like uh are you here for a deposit or withdrawal and I was like deposit and he was like cash or check

10:06 and I was like cash he's like how much cash and I was like how does seven thousand dollars and he was like excuse me I was like 170 000 and he was like let me in can I get a manager over here we have to put in 117 000 yeah I know how to do this much money oh a hundred thousand dollars and then but while I'm saying this this lady is having a fight with the teller because they won't let her with um withdraw 50 because she did it too many times and she doesn't have the money in her account and she's like yelling at them and she's got colored hair and she's she's got a cane she's like ready to beat the freaking window down I was like 100 000. let me jump the line let me jump the line please and I wasn't there for that because I had to get in I had to go what I had to pick up my tracksuit

10:57 from the cleaners no no I was he was getting on a plane to JK okay so so I was taking pictures I dropped her off I was taking pictures of her in the car at the airport with her holding all his money around her head and ████ yeah and then I go to the bank right next to the airport they give us right at the airport and then I was like oh this is not a good location and I was like good luck you got this act like you've been there before see you later act like you've been there but like when when they were handing you the money at the casino yeah aren't you like feeling like people are watching you dude it felt like Ocean's 11. yeah yeah so you're scanning everybody right oh yeah I'm like looking around about this like you're all you brought your own backpack oh it's like a paper bag tote bag that has a dollar sign on it it's his big winner I don't remember they put him in rubber bands they had like the the bands on them that it was

11:47 like 10 000 each yeah so they don't even they don't even go hey like for a small amount like tip we'll have a guard walk you out they didn't even give you that option well the you can ask for security always oh okay but we didn't we just felt like we were in a bank heist movie we felt so cool is it pretty heavy the bag no I mean like you know you think it'd be more but it was like you know 10 10 packs of like because it's ten thousand dollars oh 10 of them it's like a brick you know like this big it's like it'll be like this size yeah and there's like 10 of those yeah so it's like this hey yo oh so it's like when the rappers hold like a fake phone like that's like 100 yeah like I actually oh did you take one of those pictures yeah if you didn't I would have been really upset that's the whole point because my mom my mom works at a bank and she was like why didn't they write

12:37 you a check I was like oh they asked me if I wanted one but I was like no I want to pick a selfie we need a photo op yeah that's so damn so paranoid walking through that is so ████ scary yeah that is so scary that's good for the poker brand that's a hundred yeah that's a hundreds wow that's so cool it was crazy oh dude thank God I was like I don't know when I'll ever see a hundred thousand dollars in cash I've never seen it before I don't want to see it again I just wanted to see it I wanted to see it with my eyeballs [Music]

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