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Farmer Owes $122k After Judge Rules "Thumbs Up" Emoji is Legally Binding

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0:00 and I was like I have something better I'll hire a driver to come pick you up and bring you to the event and she's like oh that sounds nice [Music] a Canadian farmer has been forced to pay for a breach of contract after using a thumbs up emoji in a text message wait he's not supposed to use it no Emojis well here's the thing um basically they're using that as a signature like as confirmation yeah yeah so this exchange began when a farmer Chris actor was discussing a grain order with a buyer named Kent and a contract was in drafted for um Kent to buy 86 tons of flax from

0:52 actor for 25 a bushel to be delivered in November that year and then uh Kent signed the contract and took a photo of it before sending it in a text message to actor with the message please confirm flax contract and actor then replied with a thumbs up emoji so that was the kind of official so to speak that sounds like a yeah it sounds like a yeah it's not a normal yeah but but it could be interpreted as like a yeah or the other person it's like hey can you sign this and they're just like yeah I will sign it now this is my position this is I will sign it which one would you think it technically is or what do you think would be legally minded depending on whose side I'm on if I'm representing the other guy I'm like oh yeah he confirmed it for sure but you said a

1:42 thumbs up yeah but if I'm on this side then I'm like no I'm like what if you're supposed to be the neutral judge what do you think is that because there's a difference between I received it and I agree with the terms on it yeah yeah yeah yeah that that's that's the argument oh I could see that yeah or it's just I like your writing great contract great very good style yeah I love the formatting exactly keep it up so as a neutral judge which one do you think is most correct whoever I like better in court I think yeah Whoever has a nicer suit yeah whoever's nicer to me yeah who's that who's nice to me and Corbin gets you the best gifts of course because if he didn't sign the contract but he just did the thumbs up I would just follow up and be like when are you gonna sign it yeah instead of just sending the order in you can't really do

2:32 that anywhere right yeah yeah I'd be like yeah why did you sign it yeah plus let's say I'm on the side that like Signs my side of the contract and gives the contract over to the person they give me a thumbs up that thumbs up isn't a co-signature on the contract too weak yeah you know what I'm saying yeah yeah that that just might be like got it yeah and then and then a day later if they didn't sign it you're like did you see it like why don't why didn't they do that why didn't they follow up and just be like can you sign it so people don't know how to communicate dude yeah that's tough the flax never arrived and by the time the cost of flash had increased to 61 per bushel so now a judge has ordered after to pay 122 000 to can stating that the thumbs up emoji meant he had entered a legally binding so his his like bad yes at the time was when prices were

3:22 lower and now he's like hey I want the flex well price has just gone up yeah after claims that the thumbs up merely meant that he had seen the message and was waiting to receive the contract via fax or mail oh so he didn't even send him a physical contract to like no it was just in the text it was yeah it was in a text well that's kind of weird isn't it yeah it's fine but that's Canada though oh that's true but don't you have to sign something for it to be or at least this is why you use uh like DocuSign Adobe Phil yeah DocuSign got it all figured out yeah it actually sounds great who sends contracts through facts anymore anyway Farmers they are a farmer when's the last time you guys use the fax machine ████ I don't even know how to use one yeah bro I don't even know the first time

4:13 yeah well how does that even work I think I learned how to use one in junior high and then you put the phone number or the fax number into the machine and then you scan the paper and it calls and they have to accept and then it goes to their place yeah once it starts screaming you start feeding the paper that's actually the craziest technology it's actually pretty cool to think of it that's cooler technology than internet in a lot of ways through a phone dude yeah that's wild and you can write a message and then scan it and it goes to the other side I was wrong fax machines don't get enough hype dude they're underrated fast like they don't they don't get enough they were so major that in Back to the Future they predicted people would still be using it in 2015. oh yeah because the the car started printing out they were so major that they saved uh Harrison Ford in Air Force

5:05 One yeah any reference no that's me by myself really what happened what happened on the plane what about that they were on the plane and then they couldn't they cut the signal and stuff like that so nobody could communicate yeah but then the lady the black lady she was like nah the fax machine is run on a different line oh so you can get the information to the president yeah via the facts that's tight so he said to I forgot about that wow that was the old school text message yeah it was it was better than a beeper I think dude beepers are kind of whack compared to a fax machine beavers were cool in junior high then I gotta say I was a little jealous about people that had beeper wait you were still like you were born when we were using Peppers yeah dude for sure can you imagine a world without like online and stuff now like what we used to live in with telephones fax

5:56 machines you and when people were playing outside and were happy were they happy though because I remember a more violent time no that's true yeah and I remember it taking forever to find somebody somewhere yeah like if you both went to a concert or something yeah or just like my dad pulling out the ████ Maps book and being like this is how you read maps bro Thomas guys like this ████ big and everybody had a Thomas guy in the the back seat of their car yeah every car had one do you remember so it was like hey pick me up at the airport I'm landing at uh at United this is my flight right so then like you would pull up you would look at the flight times and you would pull up and hope that your friends on time and you're just circling at LAX over and over and then you see them and you're like oh that's them and

6:47 then you pull over and then they get on the like it used to take so long for ████ he was just waiting for people but back then you could get out walk up to the straight up gate yeah and then just watch them come out that's true because you could Parker car and then you look at the list of all the flights that are coming in and then they tell you what gate and there wasn't TSA that was even older walk straight over the gate man the good old days do you remember like being out just at a random ████ city right and then you call your dad and you're like hey I'm at this park where my friends we're done can you come pick me up and then you hang up and somehow your dad just rolls up and you're just like oh ████ all right let's go call

7:37 that whole scenario oh ████ dad all right let's go he finds me every time well because it's like he would have dropped me off there yeah he would drop me off at my friend's house or somewhere else and somehow like my parents would find me establishing meeting points of when you would get picked up was very important important at one point in time like my mom when she would drop me off she was like you're gonna meet me here you have to be here and nowhere else like a ball it would be chaotic if you were just waiting at the wrong side of the mall that's an extra like two hours yeah and you were waiting there for too long and then you see your mom or your dad oh dude for the rest of the day yeah over I do miss those times yeah well some Ubers whatever I still can't do it yeah I I did this when I was in Boston I

8:27 guess Boston Rose are too windy or something the words whoever called me obviously like you know I was literally giving him directions setting the women standing in the wind you know yeah sometimes they just give up though plus he's probably lazy he probably just prefers it oh yeah nowadays getting picked up by somebody at LAX is like a ████ sign of true love bro that's true because everyone just Ubers now man or cab um but also though like sometimes as an adult you're just like dude it's just I'll find my own way you know like you don't want to bother anybody because you know what a pain in the ass it is and it's like if I if you pick me up at the airport I have to owe you a crazy favorite bro dude my dad just asked me to take him to the airport on Sunday and at first I was like so perturbed by I was like ████ dude LAX like are you serious I was like I was like let me

9:18 talk to you did you ask him like can I get you an Uber I just felt so like a bad son not wanting to spend time with him no no you gotta know how to pitch it so we had uh my my son's taika hat so my son's name is taika for his fourth birthday I think or fifth birthday it was at my wife's mom's house and uh so it's like in the city my mom's not familiar how to get there and then uh so she was like oh can you um can you come pick me up and then bring me and also that means afterwards I gotta drop you off back home and then go back she's like yeah can you and I was like I have something better I'll hire a driver to come pick you up and bring you to the event and she's like oh that sounds nice did you get an XL you made it sound

10:10 better okay oh yeah hire a driver was it was it Excel no it's just like a regular that's you knowing how your mom speaks like yeah and she got out she arrived got a car all happy like my son hired you yeah oh my god I've got a driver bro well because they do that in Asia they get a cab so I don't understand why they're intimidated by Ubers well maybe maybe I think our dad just wants to wants to spend some time with you oh how annoying what happened what a son you are the funny thing is I am still speaking about this with Nina for like 20 minutes we're like looking up traffic during that time frame and stuff like that LAX is horrendous though no but that but then when it was like he's gonna be gone for six weeks I was just gone for six weeks so I was like all right yeah in a three month period yeah and was it as bad as you thought it

11:00 would be no it's gonna happen this Sunday oh you're getting ready what time I gotta drive him from like 6 p.m say goodbye to most of the day bro I gotta kiss a red eye so it'll it'll kind of work out can I come up with you guys can you say Barn can hire you a driver no no I want to go with you dude I want to hang out with you and your dad bro so you got to go all the way to OC first and then go and then pick him up in Pasadena and then go to ████ whatever it'll tell your dad to rebook his flight for Tuesday because it'll be way better traffic just move your flight yeah it's the weekend oh my god get him a hotel next to the airport drop them off a day earlier dude are you looking forward to talking to him well I mean I'll be I'll be with him and my mom it's easy to talk to my dad's when my mom's in the car that I'm like oh it's a group conversation oh it's the mom that throws oh that's

11:53 interesting wait is your mom the Viet one they're both they're both Vietnamese but they're Chinese by Blood Vietnamese uh born and raised oh God I got it so are you gonna take me images and the video all right we'll pull up at your house we'll pull about six at the crib [Music] foreign

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