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Off The Record: Ryan's Friend Shares HIS SIDE of the Crash Story (ft. TJ Lee)

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0:00 [Music] welcome back to careful boys everybody we are the most careful of all the boys in the world all the time all in one place we have with us today mr tj lee and we also have pilot mike over at the the big boy table and if you guys might be wondering tj might be this is basically the part three of the saga it would be part three yeah oh ryan tj's like can we catch them up and uh fast forward catch this guy up yeah what's saga so uh i told a long story about this car accident that i was in where i had a friend in the back seat who wasn't wearing a seat belt when the car went tumbling down an embankment and uh he was paralyzed as a result of the

0:50 accident had a 13 chance of any improvement paralyzed from the torso down and here he is today and it's funny because i started getting random messages i'm like what's going on i didn't tell him that i told the story at all i guess the people like really just like look through your stuff and they found me how do they do it we have great stalkers that are fans yeah my fans like they're very invasive imagine they picked the wrong friend they're like hey man heard about your situation it's harris it's hawk yeah because i didn't i didn't name him because i just i don't know about like where i never really like even tell that story unless it's like a personal conversation so i was like i don't know if he wants me to like put it out there so i just didn't name him but then they found him anyway so and then i watched it and i was like what there's things that you even haven't told me yeah there's a spot out there and i was like so we heard his story uh what from

1:41 your perspective like starting from i guess either if you're a conscious after the car rolled down the mountain or on the road like what is your perspective oh oh by the way he he blames himself for um going up there because of the girlfriend that's the part that i never told him about oh the first time he ever heard me did you guys talk about that no he he hit me up a little bit he was like dude i didn't know that uh that that's how you felt about it yeah like it was uh or yeah just like right after you guys shot it i was just like what the heck and then i talked to him about it uh the funny thing is prior to going up we were just hella hype because i just finished college or it was like the high school it was like the week before i can go start school and ryan's like we should do something should do something see if you've told yourself online online just like a game on a game like hey let's do something yeah let's do something not knowing girl and then my other

2:32 friend had a girl like he wanted to see up there so i was just like oh guys trip you would have been like fifth wheel bro yeah i didn't i didn't know until after you just wanted to like norcal let's go i'll drive those can any of you guys drive stick they're like no i'm like well all right i'll just i'll drive i'll drive so we did our trip we did our thing up there dropped you off not even not even close to the bay that was like an hour and a half outside it's pretty far yeah we're like stockton or something yeah where are you kicking it jackson danville yeah oh yeah you guys made it to norcal yeah we did we was on the way back okay it was on the way back dropped off ryan i went to go visit my family at sf and they're like why are you here i was like oh hi i'm just here i didn't spontaneous guys i'm just just here chilling and then i'm gonna go back like tomorrow tonight like okay and then all of a sudden the other

3:23 friend gets a call he's like oh my girl's like she's in san jose let's go i'm like all right let's go so i dropped him off i come back to the bay and all of a sudden the other friend's like oh like i gotta get picked up now it's like all right copenhagen as soon as i pick them up go back to family eat some dinner and ryan's like hey you gotta come now oh wait that's right why did why did i have to come now because the um because my girl her parents got home early and they caught me with her and they were like get out and i was like ryan's out here pulling up his pants all right i remember the directions that you told me like when you get there like park like two houses yeah i was like she lives she was neighbors with gary payton of all ████ people the ████ glove what just got a little hotline though i think you're a huge fan

4:15 park next to gary payton's house i'll come running out that's great let's roll up he's like all right go go go go go all right that's the end of the trip as we're driving down i drove like well like 20 hours 12 hours oh just something crazy and then uh i showed my friend how to well ryan told me all this crazy story like well you had a rough day well i'll we'll drive i'll drive it ryan's about the wise ideas it seems like it's ████ worse oh ████ tired it's it's not that hard to drive stick once she gets started true so i showed it i showed my buddy how to drive it and i was like hey just give me like a couple hours and then i should be good i just need a little quick break you know we could get there turns out he drove like most of the way and then right before all i heard was oh ████ and then and then blacking in and out so you were sleeping

5:06 and then you you heard the crash happen or what happened there like you i just heard the the driver go oh ████ and then all i hear is like just like dust and just just like tumbling were you did you wake up to it or did were you just kind of resting i woke up to him saying because he was so loud at that moment and then you were in the back seat he was in the back seat so i was like it was a two-door uh nissan sentra yeah and so i was like laying down so i just need some rest i just drove for like so many hours yeah and then oh ████ and then when i woke up i was like what was the first thing that you saw when you woke up this is dark cause i was inside the car yeah so and i think i was just like hey but i couldn't really talk i was like hey you remember saying asking us to like pull you out yeah i was like hey you guys good and then did you feel pain did you i was just numb just numbing cold and tired but

5:56 a lot of people were just tired fatigued yeah because i didn't sleep and i was like hey you guys good all right pull me out which probably wasn't the smartest no yeah but you didn't feel your neck at all huh no so at the time during the crash uh he had slit his throat and uh oh you could kind of see the scar yeah and it was all just like i was trying to like uh stop it i couldn't it was just like all which he didn't tell me crazy fast so like recently two couple years back because i was just like hey i'm just tired man i just need sleep not knowing that i'm bleeding out and him not telling me oh yeah i mean it's a bad time to tell you yeah i was like i'm just tired can i go to sleep like no like talk to me like yeah i just i was like i just want to go to sleep though yeah sleepy he just kept saying like dude i'm tired oh you're cold and sleepy because you're dying yeah but i didn't know i was just like oh i don't know what's going on right just like ████

6:46 she's talking like oh and all of a sudden like fading in and out the helicopter gets there that's like that was the next thing you remember the helicopter yeah and then and then they're like hey like stay awake i'm like huh dude i'm tired dude like dude i'm so sleepy fading fast man is that anyway that's crazy did you could you see like his face turning blue or anything like that like it was so dark all i saw was i mean i could make his skin apart from his blood and that was it like it's just the shades because they were far apart in the spectrum other than that it's pitch black there's no light out there how's your memory because like trauma is like known to like bust everybody's memory it's pretty i mean every now and then i'll just remember little things here and there but um i think for the most part i'm pretty calm when things get crazy like my reactive thinking is pretty chill that's scary bro tj when when ryan went to go

7:37 flag someone down do you remember him leaving you for that moment yeah i just remember just looking at the stars and was like i'm tired i'm tired and also like oh there's a lot of stars you know we're producing from the city we're like mentally were you mentally alert at that point like i guess the i was just groggy so you didn't feel like i'm ████ up no it's just kind of like this i'm cold well being so cold and fatigued i was like oh i can't move all right you didn't feel any type of like shock or stiffness because i got a car accident too where were like our cars spun and then it hit a light post and once it hit the light post like i was out but then when i woke up i just remember my body like being so ████ stiff and molded in a way that i never felt before and i almost had to like like crunch and flex my way

8:28 out but he was he was also paralyzed so when he says he doesn't feel something yeah it was just like he was already paralyzed that's like the way i bounced around like a ping pong ball oh my god it's like i could look back at it now and like just laugh because so the funny thing is say if i was like sitting up in the seat belt everyone's always like why were you laying down i'm like if i had a sod i'd just been crushed like a sleep instead of soda can't cause if you look at the car when we went to the junkyard and finally got it back it was like a can so was it actually lucky that you were laying down flat and you guys were good yeah well yeah for the most part the driver was like totally good uh you're a sitting shotgun yeah i just the main thing that ████ me up was just the airbag yeah because airbags destroy you yeah yeah yeah i've had an airbag explode my face i hurt so bad yeah it's crazy yeah yeah i do remember talking to the last time but i did try i do

9:19 remember like a glimpse moment of trying to grab on to something and you said like yeah you're like no grab me you're still like there you just you reacted because i was reacting so i'm trying to grab onto something and you're just like i think because i didn't have a head rest on my seat my head was like this i think you tried to grab me but all i remember is as we were rolling but i'll never forget this ████ visual because i don't think you could see this anywhere but when you're rolling in a car it's getting ████ visibly smaller as you're just looking at it and it's just like like a can is crushing around here yeah it's because like you're going like this but from your perspective you're you're like steady camped in the car so it's like you're on a gimbal basically just looking at the ████ you're last week we went on a hike and we saw

10:10 like at least three cars that were just crushed off of the side they just leave them there yeah because it's it there's a highway it's right by the hoover dam and there's a huge highway there and then i was like wait that's a car and then there's like an axle on the ground and you walk a little bit more there's like three cars stuck and all of them were crushed whoa because it just probably cost so much money to lug that they're just like just leave it there it's like mountain climbers that just get frozen in the ████ or go racing up in the mountains and just leave it there so do you remember that kind of do you remember when when you were finally at the we were in the hospital together and then we're separated by this like curtain and um i could hear the everything that you were going through like i could hear the doctors saying like okay they were trying to tell you what they're going to do i don't even think you were like dude they're just talking they were there yeah they were just telling me okay now we're gonna do this we're gonna they i

11:01 remember at one point they said we're gonna drill holes into your skull i don't i don't remember so soldier to hold your ████ remember this is like that was like my first time ever in the hospital so all the information even now as working in healthcare like there's so many questions like it's just like going back like uh-huh uh-huh all right here was like surgery okay cool uh-huh they're like not if you uh your friends are here okay coco like you're you're you're your family's here but then i think he said that your family's here and my mom's there and that's where i was like oh ████ like now i'm in trouble yeah i'm in trouble because we're still like 18 or 18 at the time i'm in trouble i didn't even tell her oh damn so it doesn't matter if i'm paralyzed gonna whoop my ass down yeah you remember the moment from the crash getting put in the helicopter going to the host do you remember any of that stuff i

11:52 remember from the emt come in like glimpses and then helicopter i was like oh it's cold it's extra cold and it's like ah i can't open my eyes oh and then there's a guy there was the guy that put me in and he was just like all right just i think just trying to keep me awake like name information address uh allergies this and i was like you really want to know my allergies i'm allergic to cats that's all i know is like okay you get that cat out of there did you remember that at one point when when you were laying there they put it they threw a sheet over you because you were cold but from our perspective it looked like you were ████ dead i think i think when it did that i was just like i got a little like warmth i was just like

12:42 this is nice trying to just go to sleep again yeah but dying really i didn't know that you were alive until we got to the hospital like until they took me in the ambulance and i was in the room and they were like oh your friend's right there i was like i thought he was dead because you guys did the whole thing from the ████ movies because yeah because you guys you guys got ambulance that got flown right yeah well i didn't even know that they didn't tell me that then you got flown first class that's sick man air force one do you remember they put this frame it looked like a box and it's like like a it was a bunch of metal and it was connected to your head like inside well it was like an extern like an exoskeleton called a halo yeah but it's not in your bone it's in the bone yeah because i've seen someone like arms and stuff not maybe not a head but similar where it's like in the bone but it's out the bone you're like oh my god how does that even regina george and uh

13:33 mean girls yeah yeah same exact setup and then didn't they do something to your teeth oh yeah they freaking put the they like knocked your teeth out so the funniest thing so i don't remember them putting that on because there's like a lot of stuff going on i'm just kind of like looking at the bright light uh i saw i kind of saw you guys pass by and then saw my mom and i was like so sorry holy ████ and then like he said go to surgery like cold cold like cool like uh the crazy thing is the time that happened was the only like the the doctor he was staying extra like just over time just for no reason so like the timing of it was like oh we could get you into surgery now because this guy's a specialist so went in surgery and they're like count from 10 i'm like all right ten nine i woke up like oh ████ i was supposed to come down from ten and then does the surgery was already done i

14:23 can't move there's like a thing so i was like counting in my head and then i'm like like in the dark in the room just like looking i know okay cool i can't look what the ████ did they do to my teeth say so were you like eight seven six and you're like wait a minute they finished ten i went from ten to eight which is funny because i had another surgery before and i was like i'm gonna get to like seven this time it's like it's so funny wake up i'm like like first i was like coughing because it's like there's a tube down my throat i'm like oh my god can you feel it on the inside oh that was like the most horrible feeling so like it's like during covet they said oh that's what you need i was like hell no i'm not going back again i'm not going i know how that feels like they like busted the tooth and that's all i'm feeling my like why the why would they do that and then

15:15 also i was like kink yeah no no one came to doctor it's like looking around there's no one in there and i was like well i need to figure out just what happened and the only thing in my mind was if this is an air tube i should if i if it if i close it and it beeps someone will come oh so for like a good like 30 minutes i'm like i'm just slowly gnawing at this tube and then i finally like get there and it beeps the nurse comes in super fast like are you oh i'm like i could i could breathe or i thought i could breathe because later i found out my lungs collapsed but i was like okay cool like they take it out like oh i'm like all right cool like as soon as that happen like knock their teeth out for nothing i don't know they probably had to at some point yeah yeah well later on my

16:08 lungs they told me like one of my lungs collapsed so it was like i guess not for nothing i guess it was keeping me alive but just like i felt like i could breathe because i was like what was the injury actually to your spine uh c4 c5 they said just compact it really hard so all the nerves just kind of just like kind of sever semi-severe so it's like an incomplete surgery so incomplete means it didn't fully sever but they don't know what's going to happen and then like another part of my cervical spine just got like crushed so like just like oh like two three four two three four five or uh that's like a whole section so it's like really high up because my head just got what was the recovery process like like were you paralyzed like what was the first thing that you gained function or feeling uh the recovery well i didn't even move for like four months even when you visited me and i was like

16:59 when did you realize you were first paralyzed and how did you deal with it i think once i woke up i'm like oh this is kind of real from like ten nine so you didn't know until you started counting i didn't know what was really going on because still like kid never seen anything never been in hospital probably pumped full of drugs oh yeah yeah you didn't go like nurse can you touch my penis i'll see if i can feel it that would have been the play that would have been the plan later on i'm just like i'll see that blink 182 cover but it's not the same like what you watch online because bakersfield is all male nurses it's cool bro give it a whirl all the older older ladies all the ladies but it's weird because they're all that stuff that comes later i'm like oh but yeah what was it oh yeah so so you woke up 10 9 8 and you go i'm paralyzed oh yeah when did the word paralyzed like even enter your mind like i can't feel my hands i can't feel like what happened

17:50 can you move it everything after the surgery and i was like oh shoot like i can't move like even with with that i couldn't even move more because even without it before surgery i could like move a little it was just straight up just stuck what's the feeling of paralyzed uh let's see well no feeling the absence of it the stranger so you sit on your hand it gets really numb you can't move it that's a good analogy but even numb is a feeling we all really yeah that's strange i get it but it's just a bigger stranger yeah so just everything numb and like it's funny because like in your head you're like move like what the heck like just something and just nothing something cool psychology part of it because there's a you have to like accept the state of paralysis right like

18:40 how was it going like oh ████ i guess this is the rest of my life it's it hit me when uh a lot of friends would visit like that in the beginning when they visit because they're like they're like like they're all standing farm like yo who's there like come close i can't move that's like the biggest part i was like you can't turn and just go oh yeah yeah yeah or like you put the bed up because i have no control that's right that's what i'm like okay because whatever configuration he's laying in that's him so you have to like go like you know yeah so that was that was pretty interesting but yeah didn't get any movement for like four months so it's like kind of just it was just breathing exercises because today's video is brought to you by upstart nothing is more discouraging than paying towards your credit card but barely making a dent in your debt that's why upstart is here to help you pay off your debt quickly so you can finally get

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20:21 to use our url so they know that we sent you loan amounts will be determined based off your credit income and certain other information provided in your loan application go to upstart.com off the record and then what what was like the first movement after four months that like was like oh ████ so even before i got a little yup a little pump that happens with the sp with the with the connections not even there so that's just like physiological whoa weird one you're like that's a dope-ass versatile man just like like it moves on its own like it moves and then you feel that move the sensory it still goes on like it's because biologically it'll still like get aroused or up yeah but then like it's weird because you see a pipe going through it and you're like it should hurt the catheter yeah whoa it doesn't hurt but so i'm like oh oh and so eventually so it goes from not even moving it goes from like oh nothing hurt

21:13 nothing no feeling to all of a sudden tingling i got really hot and cold and all of a sudden that was like the first i was like ah oh wait all right so let's go my diggers and i love it you guys here my dick hurts what was the first thing i set out was it really your penis because what they got to do the catheter everything every four hours right just to keep on schedule so that was the first thing you guys ever have a catheter hundreds of penises they gotta handle yeah yeah yeah like thousands of them so the time that they did it and i was like ow whoa whoa this is something new and i kind of just like to deal with like oh okay okay

22:05 this is interesting they said nothing's in return so i was like okay cool if that hurts other things scared so like the next day like a shower and i'm like oh it's hella hot what the heck's wrong with the the shower stuff here it's like oh that's cool okay there's more pain you can feel your skin's feeling now it's like really hot never know numbness then when hot cold and then pain and eventually it's just like you want to try and move it i was like oh wow okay it was just something small as that and i was like wow okay busted the um how yeah was it was it like a kill build big toe like a moment or like how did you create the connection like oh like that i think i did to that movie i saw a movie on like a tv or someone brought a dvd and i was like i ain't got nothing to do tv's off i was like i'll still night person you know we

22:55 used to just hang out with my person so i'm just like i'm gonna just try it just keep moving moving like for like hours because i have nothing to do it's like i could have sworn i saw a wiggle and then i was like nurse like there's like a button and like i pushed it with my head hey hey is it moving like just dude just go to sleep dude like it's like 2 a.m like what are you doing it's like it's like she's going to turn in [Laughter] uh nah dude just go to sleep you're tired it must have been a mental thing i was like all right i'm gonna keep trying i'm gonna say that ████ trying to clean

23:46 your head yeah first finger was like hey but this is cool though come on come on come on come on no that's not the middle figure sleep dude but he was he was a cold nurse because he's he brought me food because hospital food sucks and now so for months i could only eat things at this that's the consistency of applesauce and and mashed potatoes so i lost like 70 i was a big boy super skinny you were a big boy i was over 200 pounds just eating that stuff for like weird to think yeah holy ████ i was a big boy until a hospital and he turned into ████ kate moss afterwards just eating that consistency i was like i'm just not gonna eat food this is whack everything just tastes like mashed potatoes even now like mashed potatoes like a you know it's a tier zero it's

24:37 not even up here anymore sorry hometown sorry sorry guys sorry sorry about it yeah and then eventually i was like hey now they're like oh your toe did move like eventually like i said i was like oh cool we checked the cameras we were right you were right was it paranormal yeah you weren't that nurse were you paralyzed from the neck down so you're able to speak and like and then so totally which was i think the the like the best thing that could happen right i'd rather have like this intact than all this stuff like that cause you can communicate and stuff right which late just crazy i can't believe kill bill inspired you to start wiggling your body parts i had nothing else to do that's genius like 2 a.m it's like uncle i'm just gonna watch a just a blank screen on a tv good thing they showed you kill bill and not like misery or something

25:27 imagine we got two choices tj misery or or a ████ million dollar baby yeah oh our beautiful mind oh no the nurses in my head what was the major like when did you when were you able to like sit up all the way so uh during therapy they would set me up all the time and then they would do like balancing exercises so they set me up and then let go like hold yourself and then just like holy ████ eventually like eventually i could like slowly keep myself up higher and hold it longer and that's how like even with the hands and like they're just like force-feeding you and doing things i'm like dude i can't do this like my therapist is like we're playing jenga today i was like i'm gonna you want me playing jenga are you serious like what the heck is going

26:18 like oh i want the arts and crafts i'm like i'm down i i'm like i'm in here i'm listening to you i don't have really nothing better nothing else to do anyway yeah i'll try everything like i went through all their activities but if someone's holding your hand or you're trying to move and do it so they have like a little skateboard type of thing so this my left hand came in first so they put it on the tech deck tech decks so they kind of move it around moving around and they try to this hand and like this hand can't really do much and then next there's like like the so they put like straps on me to keep me up and then they like loosen it like if i keep myself up boom and it's kind of like what was your percentage of recovery well i think so after that while i was in the first hospital in bakersfield they gave me like only four four percent chance of anything but it's bakersfield so they're currently the mathematicians they're

27:08 wrong kern county thinks differently yeah they told me 13 when they when they were like numbers all over the place they said 13 i was like why would you even ████ say a number then 13. like he knew yeah and it was changing so much too like that's the initial one and then it changed a lot and as i'm slowly getting things back there's like oh cool like we'll keep extending your stake because with the whole like medical system if they kind of like see your diagnosis like oh cool he's gonna be here for four months max and now he's gonna go home because not much but every time something else came up they're like oh you keep keep extending extend but that's more money for them right uh yeah this place like me well well first of all i have an insurance so like all like child services and social security all

27:58 that kicked in which is nice because like my parents were they were like hard-working people kind of yeah they're broken up at that point but because it's because of their record that i was able to qualify for all that and i'd have to pay for that because that's hell expensive what do you think you would have racked up like a million dude easily even the helicopter ride alone like and then yeah cause they had to they went over the hollywood sign and tours you gotta pay for that cat they dropped yeah that's the guy that created herbalife [Laughter] first time in california tj let me show you my tabletop that's not even cool that's hawthorne right there how about it huh awful

28:49 how about it did is that that journey what inspired you to become a therapist it occupational therapy was not on my list because that was just like telling me to do stuff i can't do like jenga let's let's uh paint and stuff my thing was like oh physical therapy i know why physical therapy gets all the love because it's always the difference between the two so think of it as so physical therapy you need the movements to do things right so occupational therapy is taking the physical movements and do stuff that gives you meaning so like in your life it's mainly a movement stuff but it's kind of like throughout your day you're like if you're a father you're a boss a ceo like but what what's all the little things that that make make the your job you know like like pick my nose or whatever yeah stuff like even picking your nose i was like i just want people to pick up my nose pick your nose like a

29:39 pro so it's like things like that to give more context not just movement but then even like i didn't know of occupational therapy back then i was just like i gotta do that but as i was like getting into like my health education degree my undergrad i was like oh i actually have a lot of first-hand knowledge where it might it would work but then actually so i just like oh let me check out the therapy stuff on the pt i did uh some volunteering and i was like yo this thing is kind of boring it wasn't really like a exercise that's all it was i'm like cool and then i finally saw like the ot going and i'm like it makes sense um occupation is the difference like physical therapy is more like enhancement and occupational therapy is like rehabilitation i mean they're both we're all they're they're all safe they're all all the same therapy more like gross motor

30:30 movement yeah more gross motion occupations more like fine like what are the what are the things that you do in life does we do is very like fine motor yeah so that's like the stuff that gives you me like you know being able to type on your phone about masturbation is that gross yeah it's part that's part of adl activity daily living and i actually have to take a class i took a class it was funny like you guys you want to check out this class with other people they'd show these like real really old videos of like 70s 80s like it felt like soft core porn [Laughter] there's people disabled people like going at it and i was like disabled people going at it yeah because like it's still possible like all this stuff i'm like oh am i cool i can't even like move everything you're already showing

31:20 me this stuff that's cool like it's like just more stuff to like stab me with oh i can't do this so right now because you worked with so many kids whenever the kids were like i can't do it were you like i ████ did it do it yeah yeah yeah yeah i ████ did it to the kids 24 ████ four ryan's video said 13. [Laughter] yeah well you have 15. i feel like uh there's some people that felt like we weren't on the same team because they're just very like you this is what's happening you like diagnosing me and i have other therapists who are like we're on the same team so when i see with the kids i just support them as much like or even with clients that i have that's in pain like i support them right you try to act more paralyzed so that they're that only that's only for like movies disneyland uh six flags disneyland

32:10 the first time we went to the front of the line first time we went to knots with him he was like check this out what did you do what did you do to the fun dude because as soon as they saw him it was like the first time we started going places and as soon as they see them they're like there's like a special ████ thing like mickey mouse comes out most red carpet you're gonna be here you start kicking the regular kids aside vip tj that's how v.i.p it is mickey comes out at nashville the girls of the sparklers come out you get everything parked like hey tj here's your ride it's dole whips welcome to matterhorn we didn't i still didn't know what it would be but yeah they just they do it before he even says anything because uh because while i was

33:01 at the hospital we had like special like groups that was like oh like we're gonna take you out to places like i could do all this stuff like yeah you just gotta ask or they know so by the time i was out i was like you'll have all this ammo we could just everywhere even parking he just goes just put this on your mirror yeah share it or even like movie theaters i'm like oh cool batman was opening me again i go up hi i just extend my cane that i am like all right all my friends are right here they're like oh you're blind [Laughter] batman oh you're blind wrong king every once in a while i gotta pull that trick because sometimes they're like oh like oh you're using the power card i'm like i put it back and just like all right i'm gonna walk even more messed up and then the person just goes

33:56 pulled me over and they're like hey what you doing i'm like is that is that yours i'm like yeah okay like prove it you know he's like okay okay and then he sees me park and then he starts walking like all right and he's like have a good day sir thanks thanks like what am i not supposed to am i supposed to drive a crappy van that's like all like nasty or something like that because my yeah because it's so cool it's just like a regular just like you know not regular but like a modified car i know yeah so it's like well i can't drive nice things or have nice things so if i asked you that yeah that's the idea i had a couple of like instances of that where like they kind of like pulled me over like what you're doing like one time i was uh this was like kind of where it's like one time i pulled over because i had to pee and i can't control my bladder as well so it's like oh i have bottles sometimes my car is like cool i'll pull or pee some more i'm like like why you

34:46 ask me questions like sweating so it looks like probably i did something wrong like what's going on i'm just trying to pee officer well the exit's right there it's like i couldn't make the exit i have a disability huh okay get the ████ out of the car yeah if you're if you're not lying just pee and i was like this better be pissed you want to watch me like there's times that's like one instance and i was like did this really happen and i was like man you made me mess up my nice pants like i just wanted to show you you can't pee in a bottle in your own car uh i don't know is that illegal um it's illegal but maybe they just don't believe that's what you're doing yeah oh i see i said that's kind of weird things like that you're not like the ████ in your car yeah you can't do that yeah so you probably can't whip your dick out oh but you're not a lot of ████ car where where

35:36 i think i asked like anywhere i think anywhere except your garage tj now you just um you work with kids at the hospital and and then you help them or like is it injured kids or people or so right now during the week like a part-time ish i found a really good boss that lets me like do a bunch of side stuff so i work with kids at school so get them to be the best at being a student so occupational therapy so like what their stages in life so as a kids like getting them to be the best kid and student so like sensory things a lot of fine motor handwriting just being able to navigate classes how do how do a lot of these kids get get there they're just a lot of the they're just diagnosed i mean a lot of there's like either there's like a physical limitation cognitive limitation mental so there's there's always something that's already like

36:26 underlying so work with that and on the side i mean i was like juggling school and question stuff just helping you guys for a long time and now i work with the dancers because it kind of just like transitioned over with like just taking care of them and then seeing them at being at the top quest being at the top and like there's no really like health care for you guys and that kind of yeah dancers have like the worst self-care as far as like maintenance for like your body and beating it up all damn day yeah yeah and it's like that that turned a switch in my head like oh like i want to give back to the community where i was i was part of like supporting like anthony and all the homies like yeah like which was cool because you when you first when we first met you just treated me like it's like nothing like nothing ever happened or just as as me because that's like i only felt that from like ryan harris and a couple of the friends so it's kind of

37:16 well everyone treated you like some oh we got to be sensitive with the handicap man like is that what they did no no actually it's it's funny because right now as i'm like sitting still he's like no actually they're a little bit like that that's pretty good no because i got but i'm saying still it's very like i don't have like a big visual disability yeah but it's like once i start walking they're like oh are you okay and it's like oh yeah once she starts twerking it looks way off so i like still got cakes but it was like a lot of times it was at your house so it was like not a lot of movement stuff and i guess it just i don't know what it was but you're just chilling man just chilling he talks you behind your back that's why he's different he says your glasses aren't even prescription that's what he says i can't move that fast it's okay hey tell them about your modeling stuff you're doing

38:06 now oh ████ yeah so a couple of years ago 2019 so zappos have this has this team called zappos adaptive uh which they've been helping people helping people in the disability community like find better products one time they just kind of posted like hey we're looking for uh models with disabilities and i was like you know my life's been kind of like not like you know traditionally traditional like i'mma apply like hey you guys looking for asian model dude boom and all of a sudden i was like oh ████ this is real like doing a runway and everything so you did it let's go 2019 in vegas and then like uh rj mitty he's the he was like the guy with cp on breaking bad was our host and then this past week i did the la premiere because it was in vegas they did the new york fashion show and now like it's like

38:56 a movement where they know that there's a big market for like adaptive clothing not even for like disabilities but disability is kind of like as a spectrum where we're all gonna encounter disability just because as you grow older there's less stuff you could do so now that people know like there's a big market so the zappos team got even bigger with bigger sponsors and we did a la fashion show and i also get to be part of it again i was like that's cool hey you guys need another asian guy again because i am down like asian disabled just count me in like yeah we need your girls like oh tight they made those i saw they had like shoes where like you don't even think of this stuff you don't think how hard it is to put a shoe on you talk about the nike ones yeah i heard the controversy there though yeah they're like sneaker heads are just copping them left and right in my eyes oh for real oh because did you guys see actually it's like genius like they're they're pyramid and you just step your foot on and it clicks the heel back yeah

39:47 yeah but all these sneaker heads bought them up here it's kind of yeah yeah it's like yeah it was more like marketing i feel like or like just like feel good and there's a lot of other companies trying more but yeah they're fake yeah yeah why would they do limited edition yeah that's so exclusive release if regular people taking l's like our community is taking like doubles yeah ████ the sneaker app so yeah so i got to be part of that uh i've been i've just been always into tech so i'm actually doing collaborating with like microsoft and so whoa that's so cool huh right now like taking care of the breaking scene right now with it getting into the olympics just a collaborat i was able to connect

40:38 with other people that came from the dance scene and saw like they're gonna need this healthcare support because there's nothing for breakers at least going in or nothing for dancers on top of that but breaking was like where we originated from yeah so it's kind of getting there like hey like all the stuff in in the traditional sports it works so like it's from montebello by the way too hey monterey park which is funny that people most times like you're not from montebello and i tell them like this there's cross streets my friends lived in they're like what i'm like i know hendrix and you know whittier what's the alberto's menu that's not how berto is there did i think there's no asians in montebello or something well i always hung out on like the south side so like when you like like you went to sheriff washington uh couple kept you only no but then sure is you know montebello yeah the same say

41:28 yeah but i went to like the the non like asian school montebello on the south side oh yeah yeah so i was like always like me and like like six other asian people were like the only ones there so kind of like it's funny because the whole like trade trajectory of stuff it was never like it was just always like odd man out or like kind of just being who i am and eventually that's what it's like that's what i'm doing now just being the fullest of me rather than just playing up to stuff did that help you with your whole identity and stuff yeah like always kind of being the odd man out so it's just easier to just not focus on what the rest of everyone else is doing yeah because it was from the beginning it was like always like the one the one asian kid in class and it's very like so it was in being in all these different situations always it's kind of been very similar so there hasn't been anything like on the ordinary it's like all right cool it's

42:19 cool it's like for me it's very like it doesn't asian nowadays it didn't matter because i was just already hanging out it's funny because it was after my accident i was like the most asian friends i got after because prior to that it was all like like mexican like armenian like everything else besides asian plumber my mom's just like you can get no asian girl and that's a that's a whole different story man i think i think you know you know what though if we're if we're gonna do hot seat and all those other stuff with them stay tuned for that dude [Music]

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