0:00 This chick decides out of nowhere to just start talking ████ and bring up childhood trauma and this chick's like 50 something. If at that moment I was like man if the uncle just goes it would put an end an end to it and I think everyone would have been like "Arriba! Yeehaw!" right? >> Wouldn't that have created more problems? Why? That they were black? >> No. >> [laughter] >> Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys where we may have talked about this in the past but it's been a while and we also have Bonnie with us and Nick the ear. So we're going to ask this question when is it appropriate to hit a woman? All the time. >> Never. It's always on the table. >> Okay. I love this question. >> No, I don't like that you love this question. >> do you love this question?
0:50 >> Well you talked about it one time. Yeah yeah. Let me okay. You're ready Bonnie? I'm not joking. Let me explain. >> I'm I'm slowly backing up out of frame. >> have [laughter] women that are very close to me that goes I that they say I could never say this in public but I do think that some ████ just need to get smacked. Have you heard that before here? >> We had this conversation last night. And you said Hannah said that last time. No I didn't no I didn't no I didn't. I just said some ladies that are very very close to me. I remember this combo. >> [laughter] >> Yeah we were here for this. Then they're already here. We need to stop already. I don't know. It's a good ass conversation. I would never do it. But I'm allowed one smack. Hannah says you're allowed to give me one smack. >> Well then when is it okay to for a woman to hit a guy? Never. A woman to hit a guy? >> Yeah. Unless she's being hit.
1:41 Never. Never okay? Also we're all just doing right answers right away. Is that what we're doing here? Is that the bit? Just the truth. >> got to find the through line though. There has to be something where >> Cuz there's of course it's going to be case by case and there's no real rules to this thing right? Well let me just catch the people up real quick because I don't want to leave them hanging without why a woman when when a woman should Yeah [laughter] cuz you just you just started and then it just went somewhere else. >> You just said always. >> No no no no. I'm just joking but I was like okay I was curious. I was like when is it In my mind I'm like it's never okay for a man to hit a woman. Okay. So I'm like when is it when would it be okay? And he goes and then she was like some ████ they won't respect the man unless he does that. And I'm like are you ████ kidding >> That's like a mistake how they grew up. Yeah yeah yeah. It's a flawed thinking I
2:31 think. >> No like the guy that they're with is too nice and too passive that they don't respect them anymore. >> Oh so they just want the extreme opposite? It's the passion. But also it's the control of like >> It's the passion. >> It's like the passion? >> Then you got to start fresh again dude. You got [laughter] to start You got to get and re-enter the dating pool I think at that >> Not my words not my belief okay? When your passion is is like linked with being hit it's like you something went wrong. Yeah. >> In your brain. I've seen videos of like a girl maybe outside of a club pestering the ████ out of a guy over and over like you ████ you ain't ████ whatever. And then there's sometimes the guy will like just grab the head and Those are very satisfying. I don't know if that's a hit or not. I'm not saying it's okay but feels good where the child is. I I do think that's different from a
3:22 knockout punch. I think I think I think motions like that are like a show of power. >> Good point. >> Just as a reminder like dude like What about an uppercut? You cross a line >> Good point. >> I don't want to cross my line. >> Yeah. Right? Cuz like if if I like strongly push you I don't think I'm seriously injuring you. I'm not like literally KO you fall you have like brain injury type ████ It's just like a show of power cuz you've been aggressive with me. Yep. I think the best thing you could do if a lady's trying to hit you you got to get double wrist control brother. You got to grab the wrists and you got to Double wrist control. Yeah. What if you can't catch them? Then you're ████ dude. You're going to take some blows. You're going to take some shots to the face. I think that's a good point cuz when people think hit they think like a full on 100% punch to the face like you're in a boxing match right? And then when I think of hit it's more like a ba. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think anyone needs to get physical. [laughter]
4:12 I don't No no but this is not my words. Everyone out there I don't ████ believe in hitting women. I don't think this is okay. This I'm repeating what women have told me and I was in shock and I and I go wow. >> What about what about when you do see those instances similar to what he's talking about where like there's some some chick who's just like you know they they clearly have this feeling that a guy won't punch them back so they feel invincible and the way that they're aggressing physically hitting a dude and the dude calmly as he's getting hit just like like puts his shades down or some ████ and then socks her. >> Puts his shades down. >> [laughter] >> Hey this guy's a cool guy. He >> Is it at the bar? I think I seen the video. There's just videos like that all the It's always like the guy's just like getting hit but it's like I don't think women should hit men either to be >> I understand that. I'm just saying in that instance are you like she had it
5:02 coming? He should have walked away. I just think in general you could run away from a chick pretty easily. >> How about this? I'll give you another scenario. This one someone very close to me too but not Geo. Okay. >> I I catch on what he's saying. So someone close to me too they have a sister. Imagine there's a death in the family okay? Death in the family very somber atmosphere. Family from all parts of wherever are together. This chick decides out of nowhere to just start talking ████ and bring up childhood trauma and this chick's like 50 something talking ████ to the ████ brother who's like 50 something talking ████ to the ████ uncle ████ talking like this and ████ But I I thought they're African. >> They're African but they're talking like this and ████ ████ >> told us that? And I
5:54 If at that moment I was like man if the uncle just goes ba it would put an end an end to it and I think everyone would have been like "Arriba! Yeehaw!" right? >> But they're black. But they're black and they didn't do that. But would that have been a >> Wouldn't that have created more problems? Why? That they were black? >> She meant >> [laughter] >> She hijacked the whole moment. There's a death in the family and she made it a time to let her ████ free hole spill out because she's black. >> would tell her to leave. I wouldn't have to hit her. I would tell her But she's not thinking though. So So someone very close to me like Hannah to Joe was trying to escort her out right? Trying to escort her out and then they were about to ████ scrap because of it. So you can't ask her to leave cuz she's already in the cuckoo. Yeah.
6:44 I do think the added variable of family is different. So uncle smacking ████ is cool. Uncle smacking his niece? [laughter] Yeah. >> know what? It's a It's okay so it It's like if someone's out of control >> the family yeah. Like if someone's out of control how do you reset them? >> It's kind of like in movies where the guy's freaking out and they slap him like get a hold of yourself. >> Yeah they're hysterical. >> Yeah And you're not doing it as a like >> [laughter] >> I hate like anger. Yeah. You're just trying to like control the situation cuz they're out of control. >> Yeah getting into a fight to control the situation. >> It's a snap out of it hit you're saying. Yeah. Okay. >> It's like you know when your TV's ████ too much static. Yeah. Like what the ████ Yeah that's domestic violence. Okay. That's just commanding the relationship and making sure that they're the TV respects you. Okay. Cuz wouldn't you do that to a teenage boy that was acting the same way? If it's my
7:35 kid? Yeah. Or just Or your nephew or just whatever. >> My kid for sure. Yeah if it's in your family right? That's normal Is that normal? That's what I'm >> To me I saw that all the time. >> think the family dynamic is just different. People have different rules in the >> what that's what we're discovering right? We're trying to discover when is it >> Family wise it seems okay. Just because it's done does not mean it's okay. It depends on your family dynamic. It seems recoverable. Say recoverable. >> If >> [laughter] >> in this group okay? Let's say I have a unruly boy and I probably will have one cuz of the way I am. >> Yes. And let's just say you don't agree with my parenting tactics. No let's just say >> Which they probably will because you know who you are. Let's just say that I'm preoccupied like I usually am with other things and he's being a little piece of ████ ████ You guys could smack the ████ out of him. >> But I don't think I would ever smack your kid though.
8:25 >> You need to or else I'll smack you. >> [laughter] >> Sorry I have to ba. I would never hit your kid you know or any of your guys's kids if they were acting up. >> I I hope you would because I'd be I'd be like so embarrassed that I'm like oh I'm that dad. Cuz you know how some people like see doing to act up. What's he actually doing that's so bad? >> Like okay so he's just being a obnoxious piece of ████ and rude and like like ████ probably talking ████ or whatever right? >> ████ [laughter] ████ The kid? Like like >> Your mama so fat. Your car's whack. You have a beater. Or like well okay so we all have we all have seen it right? Where like you have parents that are so permissive. They have these like kids that are just they don't respect nobody. They're just pieces of s████ right? >> the other side of the spectrum. Yeah and then so like don't you just want to walk up to them and go ba and then go to the parents and
9:16 go ba ba? No. >> [laughter] >> Because that doesn't fix the problem. >> saying if we smack your kid we get to go to you and smack you [laughter] twice? >> [gasps] >> I don't have Hannah doesn't get any. He gets twice. [laughter] >> No it just feels like it feels like the analogy Bart gave of where the TV has static but instead of hitting it you should put it on mute. >> [gasps] >> It doesn't fix the picture. It just makes it you can't hear it. >> Mhm mhm mhm. >> [laughter] >> That's true. It just makes you feel like relaxed cuz you don't have to hear them anymore. It's like for your peace of mind. What if there's a back to the hitting women thing? What if there's a bigger stronger woman that's whooping my ass? Oh like like inarguably more powerful than you. And you're defending yourself? She's whooping my ass. >> Yeah. Yeah, you could you could probably hit her. >> [laughter] >> Nina, please help. Hell, you're asking
10:07 Nina, bro? Joe knows this story, but I don't think you guys know this. When I was in fifth grade Uh No, no. I was in fifth grade, I ████ some kid up, right? We got in a fight. >> Yeah. Next day, this I was like probably like this tall, this chick this big comes up to me. Big-ass black chick, and she goes, "You ████ up blah blah blah." I'm like, "What the f███?" And I found out that was her uh his little sister. >> Oh god. >> little sister's much bigger than both of us. I don't even know why. She just starts ████ grabbing me and just throwing me across the playground. ████ like nothing. Kicks me in the chest. I'm just like, in my mind, I'm like, "Don't hit girls. [laughter] No teacher in sight. I could have sworn my ████ life was in danger. >> did the right thing. What do you do? You you she you should have hit her. Oh.
11:00 But I think I think if you're a child, those rules are okay. >> I thought I was going to die, to be honest. How'd you get out of it, though? >> Damn. I think the bell rang, and then I think one of the the teacher the teacher supervisors like ████ came in and was like, "Yo, what's going on?" And then everyone dispersed. >> And she never beefed with you again after that? No. She sent the message. >> [laughter] >> Yeah, I got the message. There's much of a discrepancy where she's like, "That's not a fair." So, I don't know. I feel like that's >> she's still younger than you. >> fair. >> So, it's it's less a gender thing, and it's more like if you're in self-defense and you're like potentially prey. I think I was fifth grade, and I think she was second grade. Shut up. >> And she was ████ huge, bro. Are you sure she wasn't just held back like hardcore? Are you sure you're just not trying to like pump this up so that it doesn't sound bad that you got She's really beating up by a girl. Her dad's Shaquille O'Neal. >> ████ grade, way bigger than him. Come
11:50 on. This is getting less likely. >> How the heck? >> Yeah, it was crazy. >> If somebody were to punch my mom in the face, I'd sock that chick out in a heartbeat. >> [laughter] >> If somebody were to like I would sock I would I wouldn't sock I wouldn't punch a lady in the face, but I would be physical with them, for sure. >> What do you mean? What's the Like if somebody like you know, grab like socked my mom or like my wife, I would snatch a chick and just toss I would toss it. That's true. You know what I It's like the way you hit a woman, too, would be different from how you hit a man. Cuz like if I was thinking about like a crackhead with a knife, and like if if he was charging after my mom, if it was a guy, I would probably fight so different from a woman with a knife charging after my mom. You'd be yawning like this. Oh. Okay. No, okay. Cuz one you're trying to ████ up, the other one you're trying to disarm, probably. Yeah, the other one I'm not
12:40 scared. >> Disarm the guy. >> You got to kick the knife [laughter] out of the hand. I don't think it's scary. Yeah, I feel like the girl like you could just ████ kind of hip toss her or something, and then you know, whatever. Yeah, but or like >> [laughter] >> O soto gari. I just feel like it's not as Oh, I need to kill this person or they're going to get They're going to You know what I mean? You just need to stop the problem. >> You're like, "Stop, all right?" And then you grab her hand or whatever. But a guy it's like I don't know. Like and he might be bigger. So, I'm like, "I got to go full force on this ████ right?" It's a different feeling. Like I don't feel like I need to go full force on a grandma. When that's >> so like if you just need to stop a situation, I would understand that, but Hit him with the Jazzy Jeff. >> [laughter] >> But you wouldn't be like literally socking her like over and over again.
13:30 Like it would just be the defensive piece, and you'd move on. Like when you're trying to stop two dogs from fighting. >> would throw them on the floor or I would throw them off and then finish with ground and pound. Finish the fight. Until someone pulls me off. Right? Is that Is that a bad >> That's sick, though. >> You fight? No, not really. I wasn't very very very good. Did you Did you actually feel like when that second grader was beating up you actually felt like you were going to die? I was like, "How come no one is seeing this?" >> [laughter] >> Part of me is like, I I think that was a hate crime. And and I saw the dude that I fought with like few steps back. In my mind, I'm like, "You ████ ████ I wish I had a little sister like this." >> [laughter] >> Did you leave him alone after that? No, actually we ended up becoming friends after. >> What? >> I don't >> [laughter]
14:20 >> The sister was the equalizer? Dude, she's Denzel's daughter. What? >> Cuz I think for guys, it kind of >> [laughter] >> Once things are even, once you get you get beat up after beating me up, it's kind of like, "All right, we're even. We're cool now." Like do you feel like that's how it always >> think it was one of those where I was like, I think maybe a month later we're like, "Damn, your sister's ████ big." Yeah, she's big as ████ >> [laughter] >> And then we became friends. Did you become friends with the sister, too? No. No. Did you meet Denzel? What are you talking about, Denzel? The fact that [laughter] she said equalizer? Oh. He tries to jump in. He tries to jump in and participate, and he goes, "Denzel's daughter." And he's all, "Denzel's daughter? What the ████ is that?" >> [laughter] >> He has to see The Equalizer movie. And then Joe looks at me, he's like, "Oh, equalizer."
15:10 >> [laughter] >> I've seen all four of them, bro. They're good. She said Hey, she sets a timer, beats Bart's ass. >> [laughter] >> It's like he just tried to join in, and you just shut him down. You're like, "The ████ What the ████ Denzel's daughter? Who the ████ I need to say his name? Who the ████ is that?"
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