0:00 Like you just have to teach your kid how to comprehend it. >> You think the kid in China is like, "I don't want to see more ████ rocket launches. Let me see some booty." >> I'll see some twerking, dude. >> Welcome back to another episode of The Care Few Boys. >> [laughter] >> Okay, look. We've kind of we kind of brought this conversation up before, but it was like kind of in passing. Uh the UK just debated this and I'm a little bit more curious now. You know, new father and all, right, Nick? >> Daddy Yankee. >> New papa. >> Hey, should kids under 16 be banned from social media? >> Probably. >> Like you would vote on that here? >> If I thought I'd vote on it. >> Wait, UK's the one saying this? >> They've been debating it right now, yeah. >> Bro, I don't trust it. >> it's too late, though? >> All the stats are crazy. Like um the most suicide, depressed, like our 13-year-old girls especially is crazy.
0:53 >> I think UK's just trying to ban social media so kids don't realize how ████ their country is. >> [laughter] >> That might be the play, though, huh? >> Well, yeah, it's crazy. >> is probably doing the same thing, too. >> But also like think about all those like negative side effects. Don't you What would you assume might be the negative side effects if like uh it wasn't like a state or country-wide ban? So like some people had to administer like a a a policy where or parents were like, "Hey, no social media." But then like all the kids around them are up-to-date with >> It's just called parenting. You just got to do it. >> Yeah, you just have to actually be a parent. >> Yeah, you just actually got to be a Like so for example right now even Tyga some of his uh classmates got phones already. I'm like, "How come I can't have a phone?" I'm like, "Cuz I can't trust your ass. That's why." I'm like, "If I If you earn the trust, I'll buy you a phone." >> Yeah, but he's still going on to his friends be like, "Hey, hey, pull out your phone. Look me up."
1:45 >> Yeah, yeah. Put some respect on my name. But yeah, dude, I think that just comes to the parenting and then if the cuz there's always going to be that parent that's going to spoil the ████ out of them and then that's going to be the measuring stick for the rest of the class, and it sucks that all the other parents now have extra work to do, but that's just part of it. >> it's case-by-case, or do you think it's like generically like it is better across the board that kids at a certain age should not be exposed? >> Cuz I think biologically and anatomically, if your brain's not developed and you're getting that much dopamine and like it affects you that much, I don't even I don't even think it's case-by-case. I just think developmental-wise, like it's like you know how you're not supposed to drink when you're 4 years old? >> [laughter] >> I think it's okay to not go case-by-case. Just don't drink. >> I agree. >> [laughter] >> Well, you think about for kids, right? The biggest platform for kids as like
2:36 social like pre-social media is probably Roblox. >> Mhm. >> You hear that ████ >> Yeah. >> And then they're the number one spot for like molestations to happen and like kids talking with with with adults. Like it's There's so much craziness that goes on over there. And then like these parents are just assuming their kids are fine on these platforms, and clearly they're getting taken advantage >> And then they blame the platform when they've never even once looked at their kids' account. Yeah. And it's like yeah, they're definitely responsible, but so are you, too, right? >> Absolutely. I don't know. It's probably a better idea if social media's not for kids. I see I see grown adults losing their mind, having like nervous breakdowns over it. Yeah. So it's like >> I think social media as an adults, it's a little bit more like easier to navigate because some of the things we're consuming are stuff we've already
3:26 experienced, or we have experience with. But like if you just don't know anything and you're That's the first time you're discovering ████ that's not the way to do it, right? Like you shouldn't be I think like when you're a kid, stay a ████ kid. Let that kid be a kid as long as goddamn possible. Why would you put them in the vicinity of so much adult content? Like it's so weird. >> I I even social >> don't even like uh So like, you know how there's like these kids that they want to look older and dress older because their favorite influencer. I don't even like that cuz there's like all these kids that aren't really like I feel like they're maturing too fast, you know, cuz they're like 12 trying to be 18 or whatever and it's and it sucks. >> Speaking as like a kid who had unsupervised internet access at like 12 to 15 to 16 to whatever, that's really bad for you. I don't think that did anything good for me. I think it warped so many things
4:18 with how I was thinking and I had to like correctively associate like the I guess the the true ways of thinking over time. >> I was looking at titties at 12 and stuff. >> Yeah. >> That's not good. >> It's like not a good thing to have that happen. >> All right. Here's Here's a weird twisted version of of the mentality. You know how like we'll just go into high school cuz I think that's more relatable but high school is like so clearly a popularity contest, right? Cuz we all know especially in in in in our entertainment field in freaking, you know, South California type ████ There's a lot of kids that like be going to school and they got like 10, 50, 100,000 followers already for whatever but ████ reason, right? And it's like in one sense it kind of makes them, you know, cream of the crop when they walk through this like very >> [snorts] >> you know, unique time frame where everything is about having some sort of
5:09 version of identity, standing out, understanding who you're supposed to be in a crowd and like it gives you a You think that's an edge? You think that that's like a for the for the few that can get to that cream of the crop level, do you think that like is a plus for kids at that age or do you think it's better that everybody's like same playing field for longer because if we're talking about the the age of 16, it's a very ████ impressionable time frame where those are like high-level focuses. Like I'm way more focused on what it means to be in like a group of friends or like where I belong or what's important to me or my my interests or my talents than I am in ████ arithmetic and art history, right? Like what about that conversation? >> Um, could you specify a little bit more cuz I think I understand but not too much. >> If we live in like a freedom of choice as a parent thing and then like, you know, you're like, "I don't want my kid to have social media." Then, do you
6:01 think you're putting them at a slight disadvantage in a society where everybody maybe already is on it? Cuz like, yeah, we're talking about this like idealism that maybe the UK's pushing for. I know that s███'s not going to happen in the US where people are going to ban social media up until 16. So, now it becomes a parent choice of lifestyle and just kind of nurturing. Like, do you think it's a disadvantage in a society where like, more than likely, most people will have it? >> I I think I think it's it's a it's a harsh reality that you are you are going to make your kid weird. And I ████ think that sucks. Because like, they are not going to be able to relate to what like other cool kids are ████ talking about. They're going to make them feel like bad for >> Yeah, sure. Up to like 12-year-old, I totally understand. But like, when it matters a lot? >> Yeah. It's very important. So, it's like >> It's like when you're 16 and everyone's heard that new explicit album and you're the only one that hasn't heard it
6:51 really, yeah. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> Cuz like, we had going to going to school 7th Day Adventist, there's a lot of kids that don't have TVs. They could never talk to us about anything that we saw on TV. And and it made a really ████ hard line. I can only imagine how much worse not having social media is cuz >> It's like having Amish friends. >> Yeah, exactly. >> But like, what happened to those kids though? How did they >> They went crazy. All ████ up like crazy. >> They definitely They definitely turned out very ████ similar to how they were. >> So, they were too far from the spectrum of like, I guess, reality in a lot of ways. >> Yeah, they never became cool. I mean, I can tell you that much. But, they they never became worldly. They always were in their bubble for the rest of their lives. >> Like, I'm I'm not like down with censorship for adults, but for children, I do think like the amount of brain rotting and ████ up ████ that can happen with all also with parents like not being involved, it's really bad,
7:41 right? So, maybe you do need the governor kind of go government to step in and I I kind of think like instead of just banning it though, the government foreseeing the social like platforms to being like China where it's like, "Hey, you guys need to fix your algorithm and then for our kids, show them dope content of like trying to be a scientist or some s███." >> [laughter] >> Cuz then that's what they get in China. They get the kids looking at like oh competing over who's going to ████ build the first rocket. >> Yeah. >> And like it's like it depends on your >> to get on that algo, dude. >> Yeah, no. We're getting just booty shaking and ████ >> Yeah, we're getting just garbage. Yeah. >> Hey, but don't you think the grass is a little greener? >> [laughter] >> Don't you think? >> Yeah, true. >> That's why the answer really is like the ████ hardest thing. It's like you just have to teach your kid how to comprehend it. >> You think the kid in China's like, "I
8:31 don't want to see more ████ rocket launches. Let me see some booty." >> to see some twerking, dude. >> But up until 16, it's like, dude, someone with a loaded nut weapon like that shouldn't be jerking off all day. >> Yeah. I I mean, I definitely I definitely can understand and and and agree with like age restricted algorithms to a certain extent, but then we everything gets weird and we fall through the cracks. Like we were we were just talking about how like on Netflix, they're like putting certain like shows into the this is the kids the children's profile, but then they're indoctrinated to like these types of things whether be like woke or religious or blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, so like you know, the second you take out 50% of this material, now we're hyper focused on scrutinizing 50% of this material and no matter what, everything's going to be problematic, right? So, I I mean, I guess I'm >> I think kids will always find what they're not supposed to find. So, I
9:22 think parenting is really important cuz that's what I think you create the baskets in the kids' brain of where to put the things that they find. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. >> But if you don't create so even if like like let's say um I mean, we don't have haven't had this talk yet, but like let's say uh really crazy topic like let's say PDF for example. If that's just an empty basket, if they ever come across something ████ crazy, they're not even going to know which basket to put it in. >> Yeah. >> But if you even have like a good like a good or bad basket and just fill his head up with baskets, then when you're not around, hopefully they're able to categorize. So for example, one time we did catch Tyga and I'm like, what the ████ That's crazy. He's not supposed to be on Instagram. And he found a way in one of these rooms in Roblox, there's uh you can go online. So he'll go on Roblox to go in the browser on Roblox to go on Instagram. And I'm like, holy
10:13 ████ that's ████ insane. >> Read the comments on your phone. >> So I'm like, there's just no way. There's there's no way you could filter everything. >> Yeah. It's like us like we we when we found the crazy ████ on our own. >> We found all the >> But make them work for it. >> But but yeah, but hopefully we put it >> Make them work for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it takes a little bit of ingenuity to get there. >> But what was cool is he uh he I think we put enough baskets in his mind where he knows what's like good or bad and that's like that's all that we could really hope for. >> Yeah, if you instill good morality and like just whatever and then the personality is more like I don't want to ████ with that ████ Like they they will manage. I've seen that. I've seen that with my family members. But then like if you have a ████ head like me who likes a thrill, I'm just going to find a way. >> Yeah, cuz part of it is as a kid is like you know it's bad, but I'm going to do it anyway. >> Or it's also unchanneled. Cuz like let's say you were
11:03 handed I don't know a skateboard and half pipe early. That could have been your thrill and you won't even be bothered by any of this other stuff. >> Right, yeah. >> A lot of the times it's just like this pent-up energy and it wasn't channeled. So you're like, well, I'm a explorer and I could have been climbing Mount Everest or whatever, but now I'm doing this. >> Yep. Smoking meth and jacking off at 13 years old. >> Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Exactly. >> But I also like to think that like maybe you were smoking meth and jacking off at 13, maybe I was like like like square and ████ a very nerdy and playing Pokémon cards or Magic the Gathering and we're all still in the same room at 40 and doing the same ████ or talking about the same ████ You know, it's like it's like we all are going to veer off especially boys and we're going to do dumb stuff. As kids you're going to do the wrong thing because that's how you learn right and wrong but like you can still, you know, mature in society the right way but I I think you have to be
11:53 like connected to it is all. So if everybody's in social media in some way then like it's it's weirder like you said if they're not exposed to it. I think it sets them up for a little bit more of >> Cuz not learning the learning the game of social media is also detrimental. >> Or you can recategorize like the priority of baskets. Like I'd rather have them go oh, like things that are merit-based is is higher than social media and he goes, you know, what? I'mma be uh if I want to go higher on the social ladder, I'd rather be the star quarterback. And whether or not I have that many followers is not that important. Versus the other way around like a lot of social media people now they're almost like I want to be famous. And then they go, oh, you know, what? I'll be I'll be a beauty guru. Then I'll be a fitness. Then I'll be whatever and then it's like the what they're after is being famous first and then almost the trade second.
12:43 And then if I could at least help him recategorize then even if he's uh on or not on social media, it's like prioritizing a healthier way. >> I also think that we all can help our kids navigate through social media because like we're kind of the pioneers at it. But like imagine a parent who's just like I barely ████ use this ████ and then like I don't know what the ████ they're doing. And then so they're going to be like government, can you just ban this? Like I can't >> Exactly. I think that's what people Yeah. I think that's why people land there. >> Yeah. >> It's because they're just not familiar with any of it and they're just like I don't know. I don't want to learn it. So just ban it. >> Yeah. >> But it's like it's like when I was a kid my parents didn't know internet, they didn't know computers. So the second your kid knows more than you do in anything, you you've just lost the power. You know, like what are you going to do? And it's hard when like I think I think one difficult thing is is that every kid is going to reach a ████
13:33 age when the things that are important to them are determined by their peers. It's no longer going to be the stuff you said and it's just kind of the way it is. >> I remember watching news with my parents and at night they were like, "Breaking news, your child might have already lost their virginity online." And they're typing and they're cyber [laughter] stabbing. Yeah, cyber sex is a real thing. >> But that yeah, that's the thing though is like you can protect I think like project them against how they consume social media is like that's just the ████ first crust of the earth. Like I think you what you could do what you need to do to protect them from being ████ molested. I think that's like You know what I mean? Like there's irreversible damages like them falling prey to like a groomer. I think that's should be like seat number one. Like that's the first priority. And then whether or not they become desensitized to ████ certain things because of content is not really that much compared to that. You know what I mean? Like just don't let
14:24 your kid get ████ killed. >> You're the ████ parent. You don't know how to limit like social media, phone time, all that ████ It's just they're that neglected and you're that ████ busy. Like I don't know, you know? There's that, too. >> You got to beat their ass a little bit. >> Yeah. >> Get off your phone. Pop. You know? Like the good old days.
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