0:00 You're in a pay-to-play society. Think about like COVID when that happened, right? There were There were times where you couldn't go to a spot, you couldn't work on a job, you couldn't travel to a place, you couldn't eat in a restaurant unless you got that vaccination. So, that's the whole point of living in society sometimes. >> That's when Photoshop was sick. Welcome back to another episode of the Careful Boys. And did you guys know that measles cases in the US have surged to over 1,136 in the first two months of 2026? What's measles? I don't even know what >> brother. >> That's just some Great Depression disease or something. >> Because people don't get the vaccines anymore? >> Is it bumps on your skin or what is it? >> so. I think it's the I think it's old-timey one. It sounds like a rodent. Rodent. Like a weasel? >> Yeah. Measles is a highly contagious >> Measles. >> A weasel and measles attack.
0:51 >> Measles is a highly contagious, serious viral infection caused by the measles virus, characterized by high fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and a spreading red rash. >> Red eyes? >> It spreads through airborne droplets from coughing or sneezing and can live in the air for up to two hours. No specific antiviral cure, so treatment focuses on symptom relief such as fluids and fever reducers. >> Oh, we don't got no cure for that? >> Vaccinations is the best prevention. >> Oh. >> So, people are not getting vaccinated. >> So, it's not a cure in that you get it and then you get a shot and it's like it's gone. It's like uh >> You got to be preventative. Get the vaccine first. >> Exactly. And yes, to answer your question, most of those cases is because most of those people are unvaccinated. Most of those babies, most of those newborns and infants and stuff. >> Hey, hey, hey. Are you Camp Novax? That sounds like an actual camp, like Camp Novax. Uh Cuz I'm scared of that ████ >> So, this is an actually very serious
1:42 conversation honestly that we just went through. Um and it comes down to This is subjective, completely subjective. This is like, you know, my family's opinion or in terms of like me and Nina's decision-making, but >> Yeah, don't cancel them, okay? Yeah. Um so, we actually went through a really really interesting conversation about it because I think once we got on the train of like doing the unassisted home birth experience, it kind of put us into like a broader, crunchier lifestyle and mentality and perspective of stuff. And what I mean by that is like maybe you know, our circumstance was that she didn't want to be in the hospital for XYZ reasons, but then once you like make that decision, you start like almost indoctrinating yourself into like all the other reasons that validate why you're not in either the hospital system. >> Cuz you go down the other path.
2:32 >> Yeah, it's just like you know, more natural stuff, home birth stuff. Let's like not get these types of ingredients in the home or toxic chemicals. Let's make sure that we do this spiritually because this is a new age, more modern thinking that connects us actually back to our a natural and original home human experience, blah blah. Anyways, so in that comes also a little bit of the feeling and conversation like vaccinations. Like, do you go There is a more holistic and more natural kind of approach to like, you know, delayed vaccination schedules, not getting certain things like the hepatitis B right away because like even though that is a sexually transmitted disease, the only reason why they want babies to get it is because of how ████ up the situation turns if in the worst situation that they do contract that virus. It's like definitely lethal. So,
3:22 the best way, even though it's it's typically sexually transmitted, it's like, well, you still get this because um you know, high risk parents that have the virus might be able to pass it on. I was like, what if what what if you're not high risk? That's That's a whole conversation with the CDC nowadays. Like in case your mom's ████ hoeing out and then her ████ ████ bleeds on you when you're giving birth? Like that? That's how you get hepatitis B? >> That's That's one of the biggest ways that they want to make sure that you get vaccinated. One of the Well, can't you just check if your mom been hoeing out or or Yeah, Anthony, ████ check. Well, think I think the whole point is that more more moms be hoeing out than we know. And they won't tell you. Yeah. They're not going to be honest about it. >> But, to answer your question, to go back though, is that we went into this whole thing uh and trying to figure out we even looked at ped- pediatricians in the area that are maybe more vaccine-friendly in terms of the conversation. Because, for example, the CDC just put in those new guidelines, right? Does
4:12 vaccine-friendly mean m- more vax or less vax? No, I mean uh more open to talk and have a conversation. Choose like, we want a chicken pox, we don't want this. I see. I see. Cuz I feel like most doctors will dismiss your worries. Yeah, yeah. I see. They'll be like, "What are you worried about? Just ████ get the vaccines." Like, you know how many millions of ████ babies do that ████ Yeah, and then that makes you feel like, "Well, I can't talk to you about this." So, more a la carte style. >> Well, see, here's the thing. This This is when you get into the specifics, though. Because, for example, your insurance, your health insurance provider for your kid, that might be got- gotten through one of the parents' like companies or something like that, they might only work with these These are the insurance coverers of like pediatricians or something. And then those guys, if they're claiming insurance, might have to follow certain rules. So, then that's one boat. So, now you have to kind of filter through how are you going
5:02 to still be participant in like and and not get dropped from an insurance carrier and still be able to have a little bit of that conversation or freedom of choice as a parent to work with your family the way that you think is ideal. But, then you go into number two. You think about like, "Okay, well, what's the real plan for this kid? At at what age are they going to go into something like preschool or the schooling system?" And then the schooling system has a mandate on vaccination because they're all have all their children have to be in the same space. So, like even if we wanted to go no vax in Nevada, the CDC federally says they've changed the vaccination schedule so that uh it's more in line with like European, Norwegian, or whatever type of, you know, um schedules and stuff. However, a lot of state um they they don't recognize that. Like the what's it called AAP or something whatever the pediatricians blah blah
5:53 blah and health stuff. A lot of them recognize the old vaccination schedule. So their private practices or insurance based practices are still honoring those things. Schools are still honoring the old schedule. So the adoption takes time. Yeah. So it's like then then you get into a conversation and I know it sounds crazy, but then you get into a little bit of conversation of like being realistic, you're in a pay-to-play society. Think about like COVID when that happened, right? There were there were times where you couldn't go to a spot, you couldn't work on a job, you couldn't travel to a place, you couldn't eat in a restaurant unless you got that vaccination. So that's the whole point of living in society sometimes. >> That's when Photoshop was sick. That's what but but even that stuff that was like a quick vaccine which you can sigh up sigh up it all you want, but like we're talking about the newborn vaccination schedule is like based off of 30 plus years of like data. So it's really hard to like change like
6:43 a a doctor's or a state's mentality of like like the vaccination schedule just because people are getting a little bit more modern in thinking. There's more home births than they've been a long time because there's more there's more cesareans than there's been a long times. There's less there's more people wanting to have a delayed vaccine schedule maybe because there's a correlation with more kids with autism or like other diseases. There's no data that's multi-generational that can prove anything against the science. So it's very hard. It's very hard to have an argument. But then you have to just check yourself and being like, well, what are things that I can't not do for this kid. I I I need to have health insurance that works in this capacity for like our budget. And then we also need to be able to have them participate in these versions of like society and school. So for us to like choose and
7:33 fight against the system more is like are we doing that because we've been falling in line with this like more naturalistic thing just because we went through the home birth or like have we been anti-vaccine the whole time? Where did you guys like I guess realize you guys landed on? So we we we actually had to like research a couple different pediatricians. We called the a couple different places to verify whether they would take the insurance if we were still a certain way with our conversations with the doctor. We went in and saw a doctor and he was still very The funny thing is I I was like, you know, shooting the ████ with the doctor trying to build some rapport and then he was like, "Oh yeah, when I brought my kids over here, you know, we immigrated, I still got these blah blah blah blah blah." You know, I'm shooting the ████ and I'm like, "Oh okay, like where'd where'd you Where were the kids born?" And he's talking about how he he he they were born or came over from Israel, right? Of course, the funnier part of me who does JK News is just like, "Oh ████ dude."
8:23 Like, "You guys ruined the world." Like that. I'm like, "Wait a minute. Us trying to go Trying to go against big farmer. Trying to go against big money. Trying to go against big money is trying to go against that." You know, so that's what it feels like. So it's funny all that happening in my head in the same time. And Nina's probably just kind of like, you know, taking a little bit over her over her head, but I'm laughing for a a moment quietly, but then I'm I'm also like, "Oh yeah, I've been to Tel Aviv." So this guy's looking at this Asian couple in his office with the newborn who's having, you know, hesitations about the vaccine schedule, but this this Chinese-looking ass dude also has been to Tel Aviv in Israel and stuff. So now he's like, "Okay, I've never done a a home birth where I had to get a birth certificate." Cuz also now you have to get a birth certificate notarized to prove to the state of Nevada that you had a kid in order to get a social security number
9:13 to prove to the federal government that your child exists. Crazy. In order to qualify for the health care that is like pro pre-dated what Anyways, it's a whole thing. So he's like, "I know now for a fact he remembers who I am. I'm the Asian dude in his office that had a home birth that he had to get notarized." Pretty unique. Had a mobile notary come to the office in order to sign. He's like, "And this guy dresses so cool." That's what he's thinking, too. All the kiff stuff. It's it's pretty interesting. But but that that was our situation. Thinking that we might have a little bit more freedoms with the times and then still being like, hey look, we got to pay to play a bit and recognize like where we are and where we came from. >> So So he was pretty much encouraging you to get all the vaccines. He was open to the conversation. Which I'm sure he gets a lot nowadays. Do you guys know why it's it's so many more on the schedule? Like so like when when we when we all got vaccinated as kids or babies, um I I
10:04 heard it's like very It was like 10 or something and now it's like 30. I remember I remember uh because my mom didn't really speak English, going to uh my elementary school, you know, you have like you bring the immunization card. And there's only a handful. It's like 10 or less things that you get vaccinated for and you show the school and they're like approved. And then uh when Tyco was born, yeah, there was like ████ like 30 and we said no to most of them. >> Oh, so you could choose? Yeah. Well, when they come when they're when they're in the hospital, they come, do you want this this this this? Like COVID COVID was one of them. Like, "Well, do you want whatever?" And then I was like, so I said no to hepatitis B. The all the ones that I'm like, "Is he going to die or not?" And then the ones that he'll die, like ████ I forgot which ones they were. I'll like, "Okay, we'll get those." And then the other ones. >> Like polio you want? >> Yeah. But a lot of them I said no to. But I also think like the whole vaccination thing and being like 100%
10:55 real, I feel like there could be some vaccines that causes seizures. Cuz I don't have a history of seizures in my family, Geo doesn't. And it's all like even his neurologist is like, "We don't even know where this came from." Mhm. So it could be and like what Anthony said, there is no multi-generational testing. So everything is like, "Oh yeah, take this. This is great for you." But have they studied like up this person's lifespan, passing it on to another lifespan, and then we don't really have data. It's just this is good, take it. There's a really There's some really good mini docs about how the more recent vacs vaccinations have been heavily lobbied. And it's really disheartening. Yeah. Cuz you really you really learn about how many how many of these I mean like not the ones we grew up with, but how a lot of the the vaccines are are basically like people being like I got to get my vaccine in
11:45 there. I got to get mine in the schedule cuz they'll just be paid out for ████ life. Almost like getting up a patent like getting up patent trademark, huh? It's mega generational wealth. Yeah. It's like if you're on the schedule like if you become a mandated vaccine vaccine like as a producer like when you really research like who actually was trying to get theirs in and the kind of rationale that they put forward to try to convince, you know, the guidelines. Yeah. It's ████ nuts, bro. This is not for the betterment of mankind. Homie trying to get a record deal right now. >> Yeah, dude. You listen to my mixtape, please. That's the thing, it's like not all vaccines are created equal. You know, some of them are highly opportunistic and you know >> to survive like help humans survive. >> But but it's it's really complex because I think there is this um there's a little there's this duality between the idea of getting a vaccine is
12:37 as much as it's a personal decision, the concept of a vaccine is a social and community minded process, right? Cuz like it's like everybody's basically comparing vaccines to like polio when it damn near like wiped out all this stuff. So you know, the whole point is to be preventive. Now we're going to do these and put them in the schedule so we don't face a near extinct kind of like situation. But now now we look at like a thousand cases. So we need to make sure we put this thing in the system, but like a thousand cases from a numbers perspective. You could say like one child's life is too much. Obviously, I get that. >> If you're ████ it's technically nothing. That's the thing though. So so now so now imagine like everybody from like this you know, from this moment for the next XYZ indefinite amount of years, every kid born in the system so to speak has to go through this vaccine, but maybe there were like 30,000 cases.
13:28 Yeah, so So it's like it's really tough because you again, no multi-generational data, but you're you're doing things because of what could happen, but not all of it like some of it's Like when you think about how hard people criticize government opportunistic people and how like they'll, you know, the greeniness of it. To think that vaccinations are invincible from that is naive, I think. Yeah. But there is like actual So So if you think about how um when it first came out, a lot of people were able to survive. Like Like if you think about history where Native Americans didn't have immunity. So when they got hit with ████ millions got wiped out, right? But if we think about Europeans getting immunity naturally, they didn't have vaccines back then, and then they they built like just through
14:19 natural selection, people died and some people that survived, they had the immunity. So I'm like that might be a more brutal process, but it's a natural process, but we don't have that anymore because of vaccines. So Which Which that's the whole point again. We're like we're trying to account for like the many, and in order to do that, everybody's in one sense got to like recognize that they're part of that society, therefore participating in the society's rules may be sometimes um a more important decision to make than like your own just freedom of choice. I've got I've got some homies, really really close friends that have like a couple kids, like all home birth, zero vaccines, not a single shot. But at the same time, you're you're committing to uh a life of homeschooling for until a certain age, so to speak. You're
15:09 committing to the risk of like if they contract anything >> Get bubonic plague, bro. Yeah, like it goes down hard. You're You're committing to also like, you know, absolute natural healthy, like you said, kind of like maybe more barbaric, but like more powerful, they're going to be immune to like hell other ████ too. But, like it's just a it's just a gamble that you're deciding. So, I I genuinely still respect everybody for their own choice on what they do. I just realized like at least for my child where our lines were, and that was a really interesting time to like talk through. What's actually just going to save their lives? Doctors in the comments, let me know.
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