0:00 [Music] welcome back to the gentlemen edition of careful boys today we have Tim with us genten gent since we have Tim here and he's so experienced in many of the facets of YouTube and content creation etc etc etc uh so you know we this Channel's been around for quite some time uhhuh I think a few things that we maybe could do better from your point of view how could you help JK news improve I I don't watch so I don't know okay thank you okay honest answer you know you know it's a real question we need YouTube advice I don't know dog my my channel is struggling too here's what right I've been basically just podcasting for the past few years you know what I'm saying and um I think
0:50 that's really my algorithm because I had look I'm going I'm about to tell you bin tell them I um I spent I spent like last year filming this new show I was very excited about it was like a I took the concept of hot ones and I switched it up a little bit oh the rap thing the rap so now it's like instead of wings we're eating spicy noodles and then I make my rapper homies freestyle it's like an interview we eat spicy noodles and we Freestyle right I'm like going to go crazy bro I thought like I was like yo this s███'s going to get millions of views I'm a bag I'll probably sell it to somebody and keep doing it I thought I was going to go crazy bro but because I think the algorithm or who knows why right but I think because a dumb idea I mean well yeah but you never know you never know the views are trash dog I'm talking
1:40 about I'm talking about the shorts the YouTube shorts I put up get more views than this that's like those two it's so stupid bro I'm talking about they cap at like these episodes cap at like 10K views they don't want to damn they don't or is it freestyling not cool it's well well freestyling is definitely dead but I thought maybe the fun of it and the just like because people always like hey man you know what I'm saying do something different right like I got a new ████ show I'm hyped about it's spicy freestyles something yes but I thought so I think because I've been just uploading hourlong podcast content for the past two three years I mean know Chase is like six years old I think it doesn't it doesn't get pushed to my audience because it's so different and of course you know people say YouTube will push longer form content I think it's because these are 12 minute long s████ that no one knows about they just aren't a lot of people were commenting
2:31 because I I brought it up on a on me and David's podcast and a lot of comments were like dude I didn't even know this ████ I didn't even know you put this ████ out you know what I'm saying so it's like I got no advice for y'all you like I'm just ████ yapping away on podcast and hoping people watch you know so you know one thing I find interesting all of the Asians from our era are generally getting the same views us you David W Fu um and then the the rest I think they haven't really kept up or they're they're out yeah but I actually think that most of our viewership is from that era and they just watch for Nostalgia and then so maybe we just haven't got the new generation some people told me I should start a new channel for my new show I've
3:22 heard of that too yeah we've heard that a bunch creating a new cuz when I am scrolling on YouTube now a lot of new channels with like 100 views just popping up true I do have a friend that did that and his first channel like couple of videos did have a spike but then it just dropped off to what the old views were and so now it just looks like a dis like disjointed two channels that's actually one channel oh struggle out here man so I don't know I don't know how to play the algorithm but I really think that all of us um have the same fan base that we cultivated from the same era probably yeah yeah mhm you think they all just like that that fan base they like moved on and became adults and did bigger and better things and we just got stuck in our I saw the biggest drop during Co and
4:12 Tik Tok so I think more people are spending time like watching short form and then our fan base is now getting into their career late 20s to 30s yeah's older and then so because they're older they don't have time like so when we were getting like when we were out there right most of our fan base was high school to college and they had a lot of time to watch on YouTube so they watched your stuff your Vlogs David's Vlogs David stuff Wong Fu and then ours and then there was so much content for them to fill up their whole day going like all I'm going watch a couple JK news and I'm going do this and I'm going do that so if you think about it if all of us are producing podcasts and Vlogs and whatever right how many hours do you have when you're in your late 20s and early 30s to actually watch all that content so that's my take on it yeah no
5:04 it's ████ up because I mean I miss doing sketches but am I is there anyone on YouTube that I'm still like oh I'm going to watch the new sketch n I'll put on a ████ podcast and play it on the background as I'm washing dishes or you know like the cleaning the house you know what I'm saying it's like I don't consume that content anymore so I really I mean I can't be mad at somebody for not watching this ████ random sketch I put up you know even though I love doing that it's kind of ████ up and I feel like okay now I was just telling Bart I'm like I kind of want to get into creating more little quick silly Tik Tok IG real one minute quick sketches where it's like I have mad ideas where I'm like oh this is just one joke out it's not enough for a sketch right but I never do it CU I'm like oh this is this is stupid but then for the Tik Tok generation yeah this is one joke in out it would it would work and I just never get around to doing that ████ cuz I
5:54 think my brain is formatted differently you know yeah cuz there are some new um um groups coming out that are doing some really funny sketches on um like that format like there's a group out in La that they do like ex like I don't know they kind of play on the common ████ I mean the the current event ████ like super wokey or super you know then it's ████ hilarious but um and then there's that one white guy that pretends like he's a news Anor oh I love that guy oh he's good that's like documentaries basically yeah like mockumentary style yeah internet bro we've been doing this ████ for a long time you know my YouTube channel turns uh what year is this 2025 ████ 19 this year turned 18 year oh wow yeah so I start you know my I
6:44 think we're going to be 18 years old damn how's about that huh crazy yeah I think JK news might be like 16 or something that's crazy wow look at us we still look great though I can't believe I even came on here without a fresh fade because my gray start to come in if I don't get a Super Fresh fade but I was like I have time you know got damn kids and ████ you know so how much do you do you not nerd out that much about like algorithm type stuff you just kind of do your thing be creative upload not really think about as much I I try not to nerd out too much about algorithm stuff I I keep it in the back of my mind but if I was like too focused on it I just I don't think I would have fun anymore it's kind of useless huh it's not natural to our generation like the the common guys now they know like 15 seconds you got to tell them about turn on the notifications and whatever like they know how to like kind of game
7:35 the whole like watch time ████ that's just not our generation I think but also you know our style of vlogging is coming back and they're calling it Grandpa Vlogs what yeah are you serious no it's a it's a whole genre like OG like just talked you guys know you know Sam suck right yeah it's just straight up no fancy editing you just talk connect with your fan base you know maybe on a topic whatever and then um there's that one um wild creek ranch or whatever the grandpa that smokes cigars and talks just like he pulls he just puts a camera on a tripod and just talks and then a lot of videos like that have been crushing it recently this one went viral it was like a like a neurosurgeon or something and he was in the woods yes yeah yeah and he was I watched the whole thing and he was just talking about he had ████ flies
8:25 flying around and like and then he had a like reset man it was so chill and it it just it just reminded me of like natural old school YouTube and I think it's now turning the other way cuz it went to like high quality super cinematic crazy edits you know to not like I guess it's like a whole thing that people are going back to now of just like just super raw s█████ quality someone just talking to you you know I guess that's how lives still look yeah lives is a big one right now dude out of curiosity what's like the number one format or type of content that you guys consume I honestly don't even consume content that's the crazy part you don't watch anything I like it literally like I just started watching sance cuz you guys say was really good you fell asleep
9:17 it took us 4 days to watch half an episode so far oh my God what show is this SE SE oh SE I haven't watched cuz we'll watch for like 5 minutes and then both me and Gio pass out and then so okay cool continue tomorrow and watch 10 minutes and then we pass out oh wow yeah we like it's only for it's only for intellectuals no it's a good show but we're just tired we got kids just tired you got so much ████ you're doing and I uh we we set apart Sundays to either try and watch a movie or start a new show like Sundays we try to do no work get the kids down by 8 and then we like try and like lock in and watch something I mean this is a good example right is like you guys are the perfect example why our like people of Our Generation just don't go on YouTube time you guys don't have time but if we talk in YouTube um like when I'm driving or ████
10:07 like that or like when I'm doing dishes the ████ I do consume and this is just me you know trying to be a filmmaker like I only I listen to people reviewing movies and talking about movies or making fun ofast yeah like not even that reviews it's a it's a yeah review movie reviews or there's a dude I watch um he does this thing called pitch meetings where he like um in a parody type of way reviews movies kind of right like he'll he'll like for example right um did you guys watch Game of Thrones yes okay so remember like the last season where AR best season yeah Arya rides off on a horse on one episode so okay so he'll do ████ like hey I have the season8 of Game of Thrones for you he's like pitching the meeting the guy's like oh sweet let me hear it and he goes back and forth he's playing both characters and he's like okay in this episode orya rides off
10:57 on a horse they're going to love it and then um he's like okay so then the next episode Arya is just chilling and the guy's like what happened to the horse he's like I don't know so so he like makes fun of the s█████ Parts by pretending he's a guy pitching it so I'll always watch that dude's videos you know what I'm saying and as soon as a new movie drops I wait for the pitch meeting I'm like What's He G what's Ryan going to say I can't wait you know so I'm only consuming movie ████ because I'm trying to write this movie you feel me but nothing where I got to like lock in and like sit and watch cuz you know it's just it's just like in the back burner type ████ then maybe that's like contextually uh an indication of like um how many people are like locking in cuz they're trying to like eat spicy noodles or rep right who is it actually relating to no that's fair I'm saying that with us too because um same ████ like if you
11:49 look at my algo right now it's the most random ████ that's pertaining to me so personally it's like how do you use the Fujifilm X100 Mark 6 a lot of UC reviews on home gym products uh a little bit of like how to carve better on your snowboard and you know what I mean you like you consume ████ that's pertinent to like where you're at and then I think about what we do here with JK we just talk about random ████ which is entertaining if you're a fan of who we are or you know us so like you said that nostalgic value but you don't come here to learn ████ you come here for Mindless bands yeah cuz anytime you try to teach someone something they're like that ain't ████ true I'm not saying we should change I'm just saying maybe that's an indicator of like how we all consume content in this season of for sure cuz the ones the views that do do well are when people are locked in to
12:41 our stories and when we're not ████ around too hard and then we actually have an act like something to share about our somebody's learning something even if it's just about us also the topics that I think we we would feel tired of people still want to know yeah like if dick size Matters or something yeah you know how many times you probably talked about there are certain Evergreen topics I do one of those like once a year yeah does it does size really better either I know matters to the guys like every time we do a video about Asian girls not wanting to dat Asian guys it's always like tons of people are pissed but I actually think it's not the same fan base watching that I think that that's because there's always a new younger Asian girl and younger Asian guy who need to know that for the first time that problem hits every generation too yeah yeah sometimes I think like okay
13:32 maybe let's make content that I like to watch I'm like should I start doing movie reviews and then I'm like oh ████ I don't have I don't be watching I don't have time to watch movies like that yeah yeah yeah if it was your job do them based on memory of movies you've seen through your life yeah right let's review Back to the Future what happens in that one yeah yeah you know I think it's a strug it is a struggle for you know trying to navigate what the kids are watching nowadays you know what's the thing that you actually enjoyed making the most though making yeah making actually ████ man I miss doing sketches I love doing sketches like it was such a it felt like such a a gamble you know cuz it's like you have this crazy idea you write the script who knows if people are going to ████ with it or not and then sometimes people ████ with it and you're like yeah you feel like fulfilled you know what I'm saying see that's the irony though I believe again we all
14:22 ████ got like mortgages or kids or whatever so it's like it's a different world but I genuinely believe if you like was only making sketches that would pop off in a way maybe it's not in like engagement and Views like we like had experienced in the past with like social media maybe it would but it would pop off in a way that's like it will pop off like his podcast money way and he's going to be like sketches or buy hell food from my family buy hell of food from that's what I mean though I get that I do get that which is why we all make the decisions we make I think the game changes exactly and you have to change with it so like for example when we started JK news um it really popped off because there weren't CNN and all the news channels wasn't on YouTube it was us it was like maybe young twerks and some um Independent News sources right so it was
15:13 like a funny way to consume news and there was a term back then called news jacking so people are going to be looking for what just happened in this and politics whatever and we will be at the top of the algorithm once all the major networks came on um they the stuff and we don't show up so it was difficult to get new fan bases from that point on but like the game changes right so fast forward to now let's say our fan base is older all this stuff The Right Move would actually be to Pivot and maybe just go full long podcast and talk about things that actually matter to that base at that age so it's like instead of looking to what's the young people doing and then can we get this fan base it's like like they're growing with us so I mean that's probably why when we talk
16:03 about family and kids and things that matter to them they're like oh yeah I like those things because I'm hearing about what's happening in your family and you know I'm growing with you but then I think when you try to be like ████ 21 Jump Street and then like you're walking into high school and trying to get the new group it's not going to work dude yeah man um I definitely I feel like I've I've reached uh uh you know Unk status as the kids would say um you know like even when we start a lot of times when I'm podcasting the ████ always gets in a very like I sometimes I I'll review episode I'm like ████ we all we s oh I'm saying cuz it's always just like complaints about what are these new slang words ████ like that like oh ████ we sound old as ████ right now but you know
16:53 it is what it is man like I mean if I if I look at my demo it's like 25 to 35 you know what I'm saying so it makes sense like these kids they're not kids anymore myase has grown up with me and I I'm grateful that they're still tuning in you know and wearing a suit and you're promoting a brandy look at that what the ████ promoting Brandy with my with my gray hair and my suit we out here and and but cuz there's people that we came up with who they were doing ████ that was marketed towards kids you know and now it's like they're still trying to do the same ████ and people like come on exactly grow up dog no one no one watches this ████ anymore no one wants to see this from you you know that's that's what I'm thinking about is we started with a lot of the same like peers right and a lot of them aren't here because they had a small window of time where like let's say if you did kid
17:43 content the kids didn't grow with you and then if you don't still do that stuff or like you try but it you you age out of it and it looks really weird unless you're like a blippy where like or Mr Rogers that works right cuz like you yeah but if you're like once Young and then you're aging and that's kind of weird like like Ryan's World Ryan's world I heard that it's not as Kraken because he doesn't look like a toddler anymore he also doesn't look like he wants to do oh that's another that's a whole another yeah he's about to enter his teens I think right yeah but then but then it all kind of got messed up cuz they did an interview his whole family and in the interview the dad was like really talking for him a lot and it was creepy as ████ so after that people just didn't trust it anymore right they're like oh this kid being forced to do this ████ you know what's cool though I noticed is that you're pretty tapped into a lot of stuff that's that's
18:33 current like in a very good way like you know you're you're doing the Nick Canon stuff you when you have musical guests on your show that are like doing stuff now like it's pretty cool I try to keep my ear to the streets you know uh I mean I try to stay tapped into a lot of ████ you know cuz I feel like okay um as someone who like yeah like I'm yeah I'm a YouTuber and I podcast and ████ but I do still like you know I try to rap and stuff you know what I'm saying and I'm still trying to put across the shro that I keep up with the UTS you know what I'm saying it's like so it's like I still try to pay attention to what's going on you know what I'm saying but you know it's ████ up when you feel like you you know I think we get to a certain age where we don't know what's popping musically anymore cuz we're not just like listening to what the kids are listening to so I had to be like I'm going to put on a top 10 of what's trending in music
19:23 so I know what's going on you know what I'm saying let me listen what the ████ are these kids listening to you know I still do that to help me find and understand music to choreograph to word cuz I'm like what cuz cuz Tik Tok be changed in the top 10 remember what like people used to be like calling into the radio to request and that dictated I know that's already ancient fossil ████ but like the idea that like now if it pops off and some random ████ pops off on Tik Tok then it becomes like the radio start playing it but like I don't Tik Tok like that I just keep it real like I just don't get on that app like that so I'm just not in tune with what's hot until it's hot for everybody else and I'm and I'm discovering it late literally the other literally like two nights ago Chia was in bed trying to do a brand deal and the brand specifically asked her for her real she was making try to use a trendy song she was like what's a TR what is trending right now I'm like baby just go on Tik Tok and
20:14 look up like trending sounds or whatever you know she and she get like what is what are any of these songs never heard any of how you know man legit that's the struggle every day how you know yeah Serina car that's all I know that's all I know too dude I found out it's a great song it's a great s she's adorable she's like 4 410 she's adorable hey guys don't try to don't try to attract the youth just stay and keep I mean yeah I just bought some bell bottoms cuz of Kendrick Lamar so that's Progressive
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