0:00 So like guys would just be like, "See, there you go again. That's why you can't marry ████ because they'll leave you." And I'm all like >> [laughter] >> Can't marry ████ What about all the other relationships that work out? Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys. We have Melissa Bono WITH US TODAY. I WHAT WOULD you You were saying I think the other day you said something that stuck out when you were like you said that men and women are more divided than ever today. Well, that's what the stats show, right? And that's the dating everything, right? So it's there's kind of like um a single like crisis going on like in the first time in human history like people aren't getting married, they're not dating, people are like getting laid much later in life. Tight.
0:51 >> And there's a huge division politically like and it's it's causing this whole like gender world to be different. >> Yeah. So like guys' world and and females' world are like so separated, they're like not even hanging out with each other. So like it's like a weird division for like in in in and I guess history all time of like what the hell is going on with the dating in the world of gender differences. Do you feel like it might be because women have more and more independence and back then they had to really depend on the male, so now that they or we have more the ability to be more independent, we kind of don't need you. >> [laughter] >> That's ████ wrong. >> That's a big part of it.
1:42 Because Give her a jar and see if which how she does. Yeah. Get the pickles. See if she can open it. I'll open that jar. Come on. >> Honestly, she probably would. >> [laughter] >> She's stronger than all of us. >> Just throw it on the ground. If I have to boil it down, I think it's because our like culture and institutions are all completely gone. So like >> Huh? Meaning like um there used to be things that people just followed instead of questioned. Like traditional gender roles? >> You like Oh, like after like there was a stage that there was a prescribed step-by-step that everybody followed even like up until the '90s where you get, you know, married after high school, maybe around college you meet your sweetheart, and then you're
2:33 starting your career. There's stages, right? And everyone followed those stages, and you had societal pressure to stay in those stages. So like you had maybe you belonged to a church or a community or religion that were that shunned divorce. Or like You know what I mean? And then there were like I think there were these things that kept people like doing that thing. But now there's no like social shame for divorce. There's no like religion is starting to come back up, but there was a huge period where everyone was just like, "I ain't going to church. ████ those people." I think it's also like one thing that I think fuels the fire pretty big is that everybody's algorithm so different. >> Yeah, for real. I think like I think one of the biggest one of the biggest things in your algo is when it knows you're a male and it serves you such obvious like
3:25 guy-driven ████ that even you as a guy might not be interested but it knows that most guys want to see this, most guys want to see that. No matter how much you click not interested in whatever OF thing, it will pop up the next day. I know you like girls. >> Yeah, that not interested button does not work. >> Yeah, and I think that's like that's a main thing where like if you were filed as female on your on your social media, you'd just be getting such like female-driven stuff that like we end up with reinforced opinions that the other gender never even saw. So you're like here believing in this thing so hardcore, meanwhile she's like, "I've never even heard of that." I think you nailed it. We live in different realities. >> Yeah. So it's like I see this happening in politics all the time where they both think the other person don't got the facts. >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Are you both ████ ████ >> research, it's just the results are different on the other end, yeah.
4:15 They're both like the facts that they have is true, but they're emphasizing on the different truth. >> Yeah. It's an interpretation of the same fact. But then it's Right, but then you guys are thinking that the other one's completely stupid. And I'm like Yeah, I guess. I don't know. You guys usually read things wrong. >> [laughter] >> No, we read things slow. >> [laughter] >> It's stupid people blaming a whole entire gender for their issues. Like that's the easy thing to do, right? So like >> Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's a cop-out. It's a yeah. So like guys would just be like, "See, there you go again. That's why you can't marry ████ because they'll leave you." [laughter] And I'm all like Can't marry ████ What about all the other relationships that work out? They're just not on social media like talking about it. >> Dude, I don't I don't like the red pill content, but after I watch some of the videos, I'm like, I could see where
5:06 these guys are coming from. >> [laughter] >> I totally understand. I was like, "This is a problem." And then you realize it's not really a problem. It's like a fake like, you know, half the red pill ████ you see is like these guys being really mean to like only fans people, like these only fans girls, and it's like it's really ████ up, but like it's like a car crash, you can't turn you can't look away sometimes. And I feel like because you it's so like bad for your brain, you can't stop watching it. And then eventually over time, it becomes a volume game where people start to believe it. >> Yeah, I think I'm not talking from personal experience or anything. Why do you have so much only fans in your algorithm? I I hit not the not interested button doesn't work. I swear to to god it doesn't. I think it's really dangerous when more of the opinions of women that you you're exposed to are online and not in person. >> 100%. Cuz in person the like the reality is very different.
5:56 >> Well, cuz like you could you know, like like I told you guys I've had to fix my algo so many times because I need it honestly ████ me up. Like it makes me a more bitter person in many ways. And I'm like, I need to like get away from a lot of this ████ because you you really stop and think about it and you're like, "Do I see people like this in my daily life?" No, you don't see people that you hate normally. You see people you hate online. Like those are the people you don't like, but then do run into that. And like there's no use for that hatred when that's not the life you live. So I'm like, "Okay." But I could see where if you never caught onto that and you just were like, "This is the world. This is the world. This is life." Then once you're finally exposed to being with another person, they're like, "You're from another planet. You're not even like human." It's like the news times 10 because it's it's all these niche like problems in every different population that is popping up in your feed and you're like, "We're ruined. We're never going to And it's all the way from
6:46 economy to like car crash videos. This is my algo. And then like and like the red pill stuff comes up and then, you know, every little problem that you come that pops up in your feed that's always negative, you just go, "Oh, we're cooked. We're never going to come out of this. AI's going to take over. We're dead, you know." Between me and my family, like they look at it like like my mom and sister are like, "You got to carry your passport with you cuz at any moment ICE could just take you away." >> Oh my god. their content. >> And that's their And then we're both not wrong. Like, "Okay, you saw what you saw to lead lead you to believe that." I never saw one thing. I saw the opposite. You know, and I'm here relaxing, nothing's happening to me, but then, you know, it's just the fear that they have, that bias that they have is like what, you know, they saw something that built that. >> So you carry your passport though, right? >> [laughter] >> I wear it on my You're going to get picked up for sure, dude. Yeah, my mom's like, "If you're brown, they're taking you down."
7:37 >> [laughter] >> Forget about it. It's dope. It's just that Filipino style. They're going to pull you out of your Thunderbird. >> [laughter] >> I think like the extreme content and the super incel and the super militant feminist is like they're on the outskirts of society, right? But like we know people who are like, "I don't understand like why you don't couple up and you're clearly dating." But like, you know what I mean? Like And I've And I've And I was thinking about it and and I think the common denominator isn't like they see the other gender as ████ up. I think they don't know what they themselves are. So meaning like Sometimes you're like, you know, I have a friend and his brother is like trying to like he showed like us what what kind of girls he wanted. And it's like he wanted like ████ e-thot models. And I looked
8:28 at him >> mean? Yeah, what's an e-thot model? You talking about like a waifu that does like streaming? What is that? hot gamer girls. Like I'm talking about like they look like gorgeous models, right? And I'm like >> e-thot Yeah. model. [laughter] Put it in your algo right now. Look it up. It's going to It's going to I was The The The thing is I was like Okay, I get it. She's beautiful. You want a beautiful girl, right? But >> Okay. you yourself are you her type? Uh And and and I've seen that in women, too, where like they're chronically single and then they're like Look, they're like, "I want a man that's like this and this." And I'm looking at her, I'm like do you know what you look like? And do you know what you've accomplished? >> Kevin Samuels right here, [screaming] baby. But it's both genders though. So I I think like >> Yeah, both people do do yeah.
9:18 >> In most cases, They're not They're not delusional about No, you're right. But you have to understand if you are up to their par. So So this is the This is the If you're worthy enough. This is the This is the cold hard truth, right? Like I mean, even >> Even if >> [laughter] >> Even So like you got to match. Like you can't be a librarian and like like try to date guys in the library if you want a jock. That's what I'm saying. It's like Cuz they're not in the library. >> saying jocks don't go to the library? >> No, they don't. They don't. You got to find them at Yeah. Where? Find them where? At the gym or something, you know? >> Yeah, okay. The librarians don't go to the gym. >> they They're not allowed. >> [laughter] >> But like I think what he's saying is if you're going to go buy a Ferrari, you better have like your finances covered your proof of funds. So when they when you show them they're like, "Oh yeah, you can buy this Ferrari." I don't think
10:09 there's anything wrong to to aspire or or or that's who you want to date. >> you go to specific styles it makes more sense like like these guys that want like this is one of the stereotypes they want a big titty goth girlfriend. They're not goth themselves. So it's like they're not going to They will never notice you. It's It's more like that. Like can you imagine goth? >> That's more like a fantasy then. Exactly. That's that's the reason why it's a fallacy because it's like it's it'll always be a fantasy. >> Right. So then they're looking for this girl and then they're dating women that maybe actually fit them more. Mhm. But then it's like They think they're better than those. Right. Right. And I see that from both sides. And I think that's more of a bigger problem than people having a a cynical view of the other gender. I think it's way much of a bigger problem where they're not satisfied with the dating world because they're not getting what they want but at the same time they're not doing
10:59 anything to attract what they want. >> not examining what they're bringing to the table. They're only focus on what they're bringing to the table not what they're bringing to the table. And then they blame ladies. Ah, ladies are the worst, dude. They're all ████ >> You know, those are those are those guys. Like they'll be like, "Oh, I want a guy that's super like fit and athletic and they like hiking." And then And then you ask them, "Oh ████ so you're into the gym?" "Ah, no, I don't like working out." >> [snorts] >> "Do you like hiking?" "No, I don't like the outdoors." And I'm like, "How ████ delusional are you?" Do you have to have the same interests and lifestyle as someone to make it work though? Cuz you can be compatible in different ways and have different interests. >> But you got to have at least some common ground >> you. with this world and the lifestyle. Cuz the lifestyle's really important, too. Cuz me and Hannah were talking about like why is it that some people they don't have a bad outlook. It's They're not like incel-y, right? They're
11:49 not like, "I ████ hate women." and super negative. They're decent catches. But then that I think that really was the loudest thing about the common denominator for men and women why they're chronically single is they're for one not even going for the type that they are types They're not They're not thinking, "How can I contribute to the things that that person is?" >> That, too. If I say I want someone who's very really creative, I should be the type person that inspires creativity. >> Bingo. Ooh, that's good. Living off of like how good you are at something. I mean, that's a good point cuz like Hannah is in the creative world, right? And then her friends were like, "How do you get with like artsy guys and things like that? Like I'm all like I'm always getting like with corporate." And she goes, "Look at where you work." She's like, "You That's your world." Golden Sachs. Yeah, exactly. Like
12:40 They're the most artsy guys. Like the most artsy finance guys. >> Right. I work in theater. Like that's who I'm around. That's who I'm going to date. So it's like that's the delusion we're talking about is like it's like your world is that, right? Or like you want a rich guy? It's like why don't you go ████ work in Wall Street or be amongst that world? >> it's more about people wanting to attain a specific type of trophy. It's more like, "I want everyone to know I got this thing." versus "I am the thing." It's It sucks to see it that way. And I think that's the biggest chronically single like person that I think I I'm I'm like I'm I I I observed in the people that we know. Yeah. I think a lot of people because of social media are worried about other people are going to think about who they've ended up with. >> Yeah. And I think that's a big element of like, "Oh, I want everyone to know I hit the jackpot." Not that they hit the jackpot, which kind of is backwards now,
13:31 you know? Or it's always like they should love me for who I am and and I want to get like love for that. And I'm like, "Yeah, but you're a Do you even love yourself who you are at this moment?" You have diabetes, dude. What the hell? [laughter] You're a diabetic dude trying to like date a ████ hot ass gym model? Like what? >> Okay, diabetic people can have hot people. >> [laughter] >> All right, list the example. Go. I don't know. I'll find one. NAME 10 DIABETICS. >> [laughter] >> YEAH, GO tag a diabetic on there, dude. Diabetic gym goer themselves highly likely. But if they're a diabetic couch potato on their 10th Twinkie probably not >> Well, like my man better have an eight-pack. Yeah. You're probably not going to date a ████ bodybuilder girl, you know? >> [laughter] >> Although that would be nice. >> Yeah.
// end of tape