0:00 thank you [Music] so some JK fans sent this article uh because they thought it was as ridiculous as I did but there's this uh blog site called koreaboo oh I don't believe anything on that thing North Korea really what are they known for yeah the name itself screams of k-pops fans that has nothing but drama on their mind and the occasional dopebookie recipe podcast where Jackson Wang was a guest Kendra's podcast hosted by Anthony Lee yeah it was Anthony and uh and Ben Chung aren't they aren't you guys like besties and ████ uh with Jackson Wings yeah he's in the
0:52 crew yeah can you just podcast is highly edgy though they always like talk about controversial talk yeah like how much they didn't believe that 9 11 happened and then I think we're making more problems now oh are we well let's talk about the article then so what happened is uh Jackson was having a conversation with Anthony and Ben about potential marriage with um someone who didn't want kids or someone who did want kids and they're all just talking about their differences like a relationship friends having a conversation and I think what this site thought it was was that this was journalists interviewing a celebrity wow they freaking upgraded you guys congrats that's dough I feel like look at these ████ predatory journalists trying to hurt our Jackson's image so they think that upgraded them
1:42 based off their own autism oh so they believe that like Anthony's trying to influence Jackson that Jackson's pushing back and they're reading into this like like com almost like an imaginative way where they feel like there's some kind of a conflict or a Discord happening when really English ████ it's just homies talking and homies are allowed to voice whatever their opinion is without any fear that they might be misinfluencing the other person so in their minds this fool is Pierce Morgan and Jackson Wang was Andrew Tate and honestly to to be fair if it was if it was like journalists that don't know Jackson personally it is a little bit weird for them to be talking like that but that's not the case yeah that's like me watching physical 100 without subtitles on it like they're just trying to have an orgy with each other that's exactly what is it yeah so I just wanted to bring it up you can speak the
2:33 language you dumb ████ now that Anthony's back I mean what the hell happened here um I mean again like Jackson's literally like brothers with us like he's a part of the Kansas crew like that's uh that's already we preached you know familial ties like it's beyond just like regular friendship I think that we're very close and connected but don't Brothers fight a lot too absolutely and I think that's totally okay and you know disagree a lot too bringing somebody onto a podcast is you know and the way that we're trying to do it too is to have like open and honest conversations that maybe aren't like superficial maybe aren't things that you might be comfortable having in other random podcasts or interviews and stuff like that it's a lot more it's Unique yeah it's more intimate it's supposed to be more real we're drinking alcohol together and we're talking about things that we've even talked about off camera and we're like yo look because you actually know each other yeah yeah
3:24 and I'll even say stuff like that I was like hey you know like we were talking about this like what's what's up with your your love life why did you say that you you had the toughest year of your life like what makes you feel lonely you brought that up let's talk about it and the the beautiful thing about podcasts is even with close friends sometimes you don't sit down and have those one-on-ones yeah yeah that's true podcast gives you space and like a purpose to like go deeper than a superficial conversation what's up cam that's also one thing cool about podcasts you have friends just running around like there are Kendra yeah yeah um that being said uh I believe that you know this particular article is like taking like one line out of context and I do think that it's a touchy subject right like you know he's talking about finding love finding a partner um she's talking about wanting to have kids but then like understanding and empathizing uh with women about how like childbirth is such a hard experience so
4:15 he's willing to like just be like it's up to her but and which is ████ gentlemanly and that's great yeah you know what I mean um I said I was like you know maybe like find a wife that also wants kids and I think that's the one coach for saying that yeah so it sounds pretty reasonable outrageous what was the outrage show them the yeah can you read it for me like pretty much find a like-minded individual and then they took it as you're like trying to force your values on him yeah well overly like Ryan's also seen the podcast and stuff like that so you know it's easier to dress like a third party's like perspective because I I want to be empathetic to like fans as well you know what I mean mental diseases as this journalist have I think I think I you
5:05 know what I think it is I think I think it's a 19 year old girl and she's like she doesn't get it you know like she hasn't had these conversations yet that's true because it is past a certain like at a certain age is when you start having these actual conversations very simple where where like Jackson's opinion about it is very lauded it's like that's great that that you will be willing to let your potential you know dream wife decide if she wants kids or not that's decisions that's your decision that's really cool yeah yeah yeah some people so people want to know now before they choose their partner if that's someone who wants and that's potentially a thing that could break you up if you went into the relationship and then all of a sudden you're like oh wait you don't want kids and I do that's a problem people they both want kids they get together but one of them
5:55 biologically can't yeah but because the other person still wants kids they break up too and it could be the guy doesn't want Katie to be the girl doesn't like it would have to explain some of that stuff later on in the podcast too because we we're still talking about it and I'm like I have very very close friends that like they got married and both of them understood that they wanted children and then somebody somehow changed their mind later and it's not about right or wrong you know like in one instance like the uh the the girl she she just was like really wrapped up in her career and didn't want to like suddenly have a child and that would like kind of like throw off her career stuff it's like that's not wrong but because of like where they were in life they got divorced for it and it's like you know if you have that conversation at least try you know what I mean before tying the knot to like have that conversation that's something that's like a very like you need this for your
6:46 life because you're going into a contract with somebody that's like you know so I'm explaining these things because I've like seeing it happen in my close circle of friends where like people have gone through their own heartbreaking tragedy because things like that happen and I'm not saying it's anybody's fault but that's why when this guy's who is doesn't have a partner yet is talking about saying he wants kids but he's like oh you know but like I want to I'm like dude that's amazing but I'm like maybe there's a woman out there who also wants kids at the very least you know I mean that's like my stance and that's great if your opinion's malleable that's ████ convenient as hell but the thing is I think what these fans are doing is they're trying to exalt his opinion as like that is the best possible opinion and it is but you don't have to make it look like his opinion is the demon like it doesn't necessarily create something evil on that end but I think they want to just protect the goodness of his opinion so
7:37 badly that they want to like showcase that like oh even in the storm of Anthony his opinion Jackson's opinion prevails yeah and it's like got it he's their hero yeah but then what else is it done what was their uh what was their counter or like what was their because they're also they're making it sound like Anthony's saying that before you even engage in any rapport with a woman you should make sure she's either fertile or wants to have kids but I gotta check if she's it's taking it to a whole another level do you think um so how do you check her ovaries before you even start dating the app I don't know so is this like um is this like an American site or is it I don't know it's probably a website they're all blue-haired white girls that love K-pop that are writing on it so the reason why I asked that's funny the reason why I ask is because maybe the way that
8:27 they're seeing you know men traditionally be he kind of breaks out of that mold right because traditionally at least Mexican too you know you want to have someone that you're gonna have kids with like it's just expected that you get married and you have kids traditionally um so maybe for them they're like whoa he's an Asian out or Asian male outlier that's thinking even considering the woman and then Here Comes this this uh this this machismo or this like guy that like is trying to like bring back Vietnam and maybe they see him as like is that what it might be happening they see him as like like as a threat to a very valued opinion yeah I think it's much more simpler than that they're protecting their husband Jackson female simps that's all it is yeah it's like can you see this ████ dirty
9:17 Vietnamese ass male chauvinist evil face he thinks he's so cute thinking he could influence the thoughts of my powerful husband my biggest gripe is that they're missing a really really valuable point which is that Jackson Wang is a celebrity that will be interviewed a million times by a million different people but only in this particular podcast will you get people honestly talking to him like a real ████ person yeah I think that's the big thing and they're getting an opinion out of him that he wouldn't even otherwise be able to to speak on so be thankful that he's here talking to Anthony who's willing to ████ say the real questions yeah yeah but fans want to control you they don't really care about you as a human yeah most stands and fans that are crazy they want to mold this perfect Jackson in their image and they want to preserve that and
10:07 if he asks any other way that breaks that mold there's they'll hate him which which is also hard for like a celebrity because then it pressures them to always need to do the perfect thing yeah you know what I mean yeah sir which is why like even as because I I totally understand even with what Geo said too like like I get it I'm not saying that by suggesting maybe find somebody like that wants kids too like everybody in the world needs to agree with one thing it's more like my friend who's sitting across from me says he wants kids it's like oh this is next part of the conversation here's a statement that like continues the conversation like where does that go where does your belief go after that that's like what a podcast does right you like break down different things and I too can sit there and learn something new you know what I mean even though you're being uh Curious exactly you know it's it's meant to be a conversation but um just for context too
10:57 uh obviously like people were like messaging me saying that I was getting like ████ destroyed on Twitter being called a massages all these different things like a couple fans or pretty former fans were talking about how they lost all fans ████ for me people are commenting on our YouTube video and just saying oh ████ up things you know wow but it is what it is but like you know I I was talking with Jackson on the side and he was like yo what the ████ and he asked me and he's such a ████ great guy he's like yo what do you want to do about it and I kept it real with them I was I was and he's like uh he was super like ████ great guy he was like what do you want to do about it and first and foremost like I'm sorry I put you through this and whatever experience you're going through I just want to know how you're feeling I was like Yo dude like I'm gonna keep it real with you like off top like number one it was upsetting to like experience that but then number two like it's it doesn't actually matter in the end I too like
11:48 went through that same experience with you we sat down and had that conversation if I put on any views or perspectives or opinions that made you feel uncomfortable or anything I also apologize like that's not the point you know like what what were Dylan is having a conversation as boys and looking out for each other and he's like what do you want to do for about it and I was like look I understand your position you don't have to do anything I'm not asking you to do anything you're gonna shout me out maybe two or three times yeah yeah give me some tickets next door you could have wrote on Twitter like shut up you dumb ████ yeah what I would never I would never why did you do that for me Jackson actually ironically I was like you know in my maybe it's because I was subconsciously like even being a choreographer for him like my kind of Base goal has always been to make him look good I'm like I still feel like we succeeded you came on here of course like my class or whatever it's like you still look great I'm not mad at like what the overall outcome is but like as long as me and you are cool we
12:39 understand each other it's like I'm good with it because it's gonna come it's a podcast like it's not meant for everybody that hive mind and always agree can't agree with everybody you know what I mean but I know what we were talking about with each other I know where the intention and the care comes from and if we understand that then it's like you know what whatever comes will come and for what it's worth Anthony I don't think you're a massage he's a chauvinist not a misogynist dude there's a difference that you're either thank you I think you're quite a gentleman no but then you rolled your eyes at me so I'm second guessing I will say you know like especially when you feel that when you feel a judgment from like a bunch of people or people even like that once for your fan and stuff it does kind of put you in a spot where you have to like second guess things but you know even being like in the text thread and Ryan bringing it up and just being like yo this is ████ you know it kind of like
13:29 at least like as a friend just makes you feel better as like a human yeah because it's like the real people that know you yeah know that it's ████ because you do kind of start questioning I'm like oh well I'm like on social media and a bunch of different people are like calling me this or that and you're like oh ████ like at the end of the day this has an effect on you and I can only imagine what somebody like Jackson oh yeah you know what I mean might also go through because so many people influence your everyday being and you have to like conscious like constantly be grounded enough in who you actually are to stand by your own values before you get swept by like what you think you need to do to appease and approve everybody you know what I mean so it does get crazy but it was fortunate enough to to have close friends to be like no like this is crazy to make you stand by things that you at least believe about yourself and I think that's really important because that's the point of the podcast to speak your truths even if it's not perfect yeah
14:22 that's what makes it a good thing and that's why I feel like if you're a fan of Jackson just be glad that he has an environment and a safe space where he can say what he thinks and these guys aren't going to misconstrue it and you can look at what he said and pick that as the thing you want to stand by but again he's not being influenced by Anthony in a negative way yeah they're speaking to each other he has no ability to do that I did say immediately though I was like kind of low-key this is why Jackson can't come on JK news because if you can't ████ survive J like hinge's podcast the fans would be ████ if he came I would want to see those ████ fans come on our comments and dude they'll get roasted that's as a person who's been canceled six times or more that's a special Club the wonderful thing about it is it
15:13 exposes the stupid ones that weren't really your fans in the first place they're like I can't believe you I'm leaving I thought you would give me it's like dude that's why the fans we have now it's the best ████ era ever yeah because we weeded out all the stupidest people that were following us for the wrong reasons right like everybody that left when we made fun of The Dalai Lama people left after that no that's the joke basically because we we said we didn't like that the Dalai Lama told the kid to suck his tongue but then all these uh what is it called what are they Tibetans Tibetans all these Tibetans ████ flooded the Inbox and be like I'm so disappointed but none of them have followed none of them have any previous messages with the DMS they literally came in to act like they were fans to say they're leaving wow lose anything they were you they weren't even following our Instagram it's like all
16:05 these people that come in and talk ████ during these times like eh anymore it's like well you weren't even like really a follower in the first and we maintained that like dude he's a global figure he has to be held to Global standards like it doesn't matter if your culture says that that's cool yeah like my culture thinks balut is cool don't you know you don't gotta eat it yeah you know but anyway with the Jackson thing I think the fans you guys should be thankful that uh that Jackson has friends that he's comfortable enough with that you might get an exclusive opinion he won't share anyway you guys should watch the kinjaz podcast with Jackson Wang because I didn't watch it but I'm sure because I was on it personally I know how it goes down and it does get very intimate and real it's not a stupid ████ news like episode where everything's like so what's happening in your new album oh I'm coming out with a great album you
16:55 know what I mean like ████ that and to keep it as simple as if you love Jackson Jackson loves ████ Anthony love this guy and Anthony loves his Wang oh my God
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