0:00 black dragon sounds cool I know I know that sounds so cool man that's what you would join I don't know they wouldn't they would know they're like this guy ain't gonna make it this guy's ears are cheap yeah they're like no way bro [Laughter] [Music] all right welcome back to another amazing episode of careful boys we have with us today Mr Johnny Chang so one of the craziest things just happened so when I saw this guy's photo because uh Bart sent me the video I was like he looks kind of familiar and I just don't and then we just know so many of the same people he mentioned a guy's name that he hung out with that put him on game with the um with the snake reptile selling yeah right and I was like oh I
0:52 know this guy's dealer friend right the activity in the reptile dealer and then I was like oh that's funny I've never met anyone from your guys's group I've heard of them but I never met them but then my memory is all kind of shoddy about that I was like ████ 19 18 and I was always high right we do have a mutual friend um that also Ryan knows another one and then I was like in the bathroom right now and I was peeing and I was like okay but these people I used to hang out with them all the time and we were in the same area and I was like oh my ████ God I did meet him before and we just that's crazy remember the moment when I introduced myself we were at our our
1:44 mutual friend's house it was the first time I came over with our buddy uh that starts with the N yeah we came together Nigel he's very Posh don't say his name Bart yo shut up dude Five Five Guys on this on the in the living room that I've never seen before there were some guys in the backyard uh that I knew in in this house it was his friend and their brothers and it's in a neighborhood that that um my buddies always ran around and then so I went inside and um I always you know introduced myself to people just just to like make it like we're cool you know and I heard that it was a group called Monterey Park watching which it wasn't them but then my older buddies always hung
2:36 out with other watching members all the time so I was like oh we're all product probably cool right so I introduced myself I was like what's up and he remembers me because he described what I looked like and what year exactly is this again ████ dude I don't remember this has to be like it was when I was like probably just got out but yeah it was around that time yeah and he was like you were bald you had you always wear looks yes I actually have no these aren't the pair it became a costume later on you watch Just Kidding Films right when we played like the characters it became a costume the looks we would pop out the lenses and it became our frames that's so funny yeah that's so crazy the five dollar looks bro it's like so funny because I would wear lobes too and they were so dark that when I was hitting people up I didn't even know what they look like
3:28 it would probably helped oh where are you from you can't even so you can't even know who the hell it could be an old lady bro but what if it was like just you and your brother and you guys are just just hey hey banging on each other you don't even know like wait oh what the ████ oh wait we're at home that memory was a blur to me right like was there like a get like a just a quick kick back there or something that's it was always like that bro yeah yeah kick back they would stay there till like five enough memory dude you can still remember what he was wearing at them he said you were wearing an essay jacket I had it I was always bald I would wear my looks like I would wear it like backwards I would wear it here yeah [Applause] and then I was skin bald yeah and you're
4:19 talking the period of time that you guys met was in the 67 days that you were in between yeah what are the chances bro that's what I seen him before I'm like I've seen this that's like 2001 or like earlier no it was it's It's gotta be ████ I don't know but when was this house seven days that you were you still underage yeah I was still young I was what like 16 no yeah like 16 15. yeah Joe do you remember him at all he was 19. I I was probably 19 or something yeah yeah so oh 203 I was like 19. but the thing is I just remember like yeah there was five something guys just sitting around on one side of the living room and I came in I said what's up I went to the backyard and everything else is a blur like and I remember though like that house got kind
5:11 of crazy after a while because everyone was just doing drugs or whatever but then the brothers got into an argument and then the little brother shot at the older brother with a shotgun inside the house and after that everyone's like don't go because the cops came yeah oh my God nothing about that yeah it's just rumors rumors wait let's let's test his memory what else was he wearing yeah oh yeah he always he always wear a lot of black and white I think you wore black and white at that time probably I mean a lot of people did but for sure had Cortez's I'm pretty sure I don't know about that yeah maybe but I don't know that day was a blur but that's all I remember um but yeah the name that you dropped I was like that that sounds so familiar man who is this guy and then all these
6:02 things started coming down and he was a nut job and he was a small dude with a bald head like real small right and he was crazy like just the stories is like man this guy is like a real life Child Soldier like always drugged up always shooting things for no reason yeah I saw ambiguous like who is like a small like small dude with a bald head yeah like you know it's like that's that fits everybody back in the 90s every gang members description small guy imagine probably sketching that I was a skinny all right a circle the paper's like this big you just draw him out the box it's a small guy right okay next to the other thousand small guys with the bald head we must have been um but you you were skinny back then yeah I was just about to say oh I was like 120 pounds 100 I don't remember
6:53 that yeah I was 120 pounds that's crazy yeah it was a super skinny guy I I hit it with big clothes big jackets stuff like that but I knew you were Japanese like it was like I could just tell you know like like you weren't like you didn't look like I mean we dressed like essays and gamer but yeah you can tell you know other Asians can tell other ages Joe got that face dude you got that Japanese face what was he wearing what was he wearing do you do you did you was other people my crew there or like that I don't remember I just remember you came up to us and was respectful yeah yeah in a time that nobody was respectful it was like what's up who were you for you know everyone was you know banging on everyone's trying to be extra hard I was in a um I wasn't a true Banger dude to be honest like I I hated that ████ I thought it was so stupid but you look the most banged up
7:45 She was That's like me saying I I don't I don't like tattoos guys you know it's like yeah yeah because by that time I was older I got in when I was around like 15 16. yeah so by that time I was like wait why aren't we making money more like why aren't we doing like because a lot of the homies were getting into um burglaries they're getting into those kind of hard stuff four five nines yeah and then I was like what we need to do is just start selling this stuff we need to like we need to organize better this is too scattered we need some piranha and another thing that those like senseless fighting is stupid like if you're fighting for a purpose to make like a gain in something like if you just it and then we have you
8:36 know every group had that hot head right that would just start ████ and then the rest of the homies have to finish what they started and I'm like what's the point of getting into these wars when like it's so dumb so then I I think after a while it's just like why are you guys picking and bullying these other groups and it's probably because I got bullied and I'm like I don't want I don't want to do that like we're not we shouldn't do that like let's be an organized group and then I was like um I was just like I don't I just started seeing the stupidity around like 18 19 right and then um after that whole you know in the drive-by happened we saw somebody die all this stuff and then we didn't get any backup from our own group then I was like why do we even need a group name so me and my buddies that left like all the youngsters left at once so when you do
9:26 that you can't get jumped out what are they gonna do right and then we said why can't we just work and do the same things we don't need a name we don't need a bang we need to have to dress like we bang anymore and then that's the mentality that started changing for us and we stopped hanging out stopped going to these parties stop like doing any of that stuff yeah yeah that's crazy but that's when our our buddy with a with our big time Gangster buddy with a letter N that's when he's special yeah that's when he started hanging out with other groups because we weren't active in that way anymore I see yeah the game I like the idea of being like yeah I could tell that Joe is Japanese he was coming in respectful and my in my head he's just walking up just bowing to people
10:17 man that's different dude this guy's different shallow about it I I was thinking we okay for one we're not we were we weren't that big like we weren't that big but I also knew not many people in our Hood was down to do crazy stuff they're down to fight everyone's down to fight yeah everyone's down like we had we had situations where we would go like when we're like only three deep and like we're just hitting them up and there's ten of them let's go yeah but no one's thinking is anyone gonna die today because we're like 17 and 16. you know you don't think like that when you're that age right and then when you start seeing like real ████ I'm just like okay these like these other guys these Vietnamese Guys these these other Cambodian guys like they're
11:08 they're real like they're out here shooting people every day like we're over here like ████ West Side Stories like let's fight you guys ready no but but for me I was I was always like we need to we need to if there's no beef we need to keep it cool as much as possible so you just gotta go up to everybody and be like hey we cool all right cool we were probably one of the only groups out there where like like you know when watching Asian boys were like beefing like we were staying out of it but we were cool with both sides neutral yeah because we're just out of it and I was like let's stay ████ out of it but other Hot Heads just wanted to be in the mix because they wanted a name by staying neutral they thought that we were a ████ because they're like we're not in the
11:58 mix that they're in that's true bro and I'm like no that's stupid dude but that was my mentality during that time and we all argued about it's like no we're out here ████ with like ████ groups we need to go and take one of those guys down so then they know that we're forced to be reckoned with I'm like why rog's friends with this side and I go to school with Asian boys so why the ████ would I want to be the only guy that's my lab partner he's a cool guy man why are you gonna make me do this man just imagine two thugs with the goggles who's gonna do it first man [Laughter] crazy memories dude so that was that window where you were only out for like
12:48 two months and then we we crossed paths and then you you went right back in as an adult yeah wow that's crazy a knucklehead that you're talking about yeah you know you were the Hot Head yeah the hot head no one of the Hot Heads you know like there's a lot there was a lot back then top three hothead but nowadays it's not like that you know it's which is good bro honestly that's why yeah you know they created like the gang units for all of us too I don't know if you guys remember the Temple City crash units and yeah ATF and all that crazy stuff do you remember Safari the pool hall out in the Roland sounds familiar so there was a pool hall there there was another one well where that recent shooting one was um right here in Monterey Park where the old guy shot the dance studio that was a pool
13:38 hall we all went to and then back in the day when you just played you're just hanging out with your buddies the gang unit will come in and they'll just round up every Asian kid that they can find line them up against the wall and then be like all right where you from uh whatever they'll write you up your full name give me your ID I'm super familiar with Safari because my comrades are from Hacienda Heights so we hung out over there a lot did you guys get pulled up on by the all the time yeah yeah yeah it was always the sheriff the sheriff was the game I don't know we were at uh Carol's remember when carols was on Valley which carols it used to be now it's not dark
14:30 [Laughter] it's hella good dude we were in the middle of a meal in the middle of a ████ meal my friend's probation officer comes in and he goes you come here right he goes he goes you too and I'm all like I don't I'm not even in trouble I'm Japanese [Laughter] I'm not even doing anything and I don't know the law back then right so I go outside I there's other cops waiting for us oh man same thing well gang I'm in the middle of a male dude I'm ████ what game are you from whatever business is I got I got um I'm in the record of being a part of Asian boys because I was with one that day such bad news not understanding the law is like to be back then yeah they could just get you to do anything yeah so I'm
15:20 on the record as that I'm not from that gang but yeah back then it was like no loss they just grab you up and they just wanted files they needed files building files every day I wanted to be on a file so bad what about me hey I'm that guy's friend hey what's up Joe I'm Ryan who's this Indian guy oh man that's the thing when Ellen was here we were talking about because she had a similar experience but in NorCal in NorCal yeah and her experience was kind of like mine where the odd there's like a weird um Paradox with like if you don't look like you're gonna beat someone's ass you're gonna get your ass beat like so we had to look like to blend in like you
16:10 had to look like the people that would kick your ass because if you don't then it's like or like Alan was like I have to roll with these people or they'll beat my ass so it's such a weird like Paradox that's one thing that uh when I first so I I grew up in Cerritos and I feel like it's like a middle class neighborhood and then so when I got kicked out and I moved out here and when I first came to keppel I remember seeing like just everyone look like cholos even if you're a nerd yeah that was the style I was like like I was like oh ████ this place is so ████ Hood even the ████ Geeks are Hood as ████ how does that mean it's so funny it's so weird man we had dudes from the math club wearing red laces in their uh Chucks yeah like that what are they doing shots in their attractions yeah and I was like well that's how you survive I guess well I don't know I just
17:00 think the culture like swap meet cholo whatever like Triple A T culture was just so big yeah I think a lot of like other cities were kind of like like play play banging you know and then here you have like you know I've met friends that were been getting jumped on their streets since they're eight years old they have to join so it was like the culture was real rather than being romanticized from a different area yeah and there that led to a lot of innocent people getting killed oh yeah they would ride on people and be like oh this guy's wearing black and red and thinking that they're putting in work on our our people and it's not even it's just like regular kids yeah that was really sad you know it's kind of yeah when you mentioned earlier about meth I really think that like that made a lot of kids crazy and they were attacking like innocent math kids just coming home from
17:51 Kumon yeah because of those reasons like they liked Jersey or they they really like this number or whatever and I was like yeah I remember like my first experience in Monterey Park so I moved from Gardena um and after school me and my friends were just walking home and then a car pulled up full of guys and then like I never been hit up hit up before and they're like where the ████ you from and I'm like I just moved here from Gardena that's a good answer though good thing you shouted confidence you know I was like I just moved here from Gardena and then like I didn't know like that they were asking me what gang I was from and they don't like ████ you from whatever whatever and we're like no no no no I don't know what that is and then come to find out the friend that was
18:42 with me his older brother is in it so he got kind of grouped up so they recognized him I didn't ████ know ████ dude I was just like why are these guys yelling at us and then they started slamming Snapple bottles they had empty slapple bottles hey shut up from Gardena and then it's like raining Snapple bottles and they're exploding and I'm just ████ running like Oh I thought this was a better neighborhood oh that was so scary but like going through ████ like that you feel like I'm so vulnerable I need help I need somebody to protect me like I need I'm scared like there's like bottles coming and blast being exploded around me you know yeah it's a scary feeling right hell yeah dude yeah for sure man first time getting like chased by a car full of people
19:32 that's like crazy too bro so they had like Sobe bottles back yes so big dude [Laughter] that looks like fruity drinks huh you see the flavor you're like I think I'm good strong men yeah they're sitting there drinking a peach Snapple and they're like hey you finished with your orbits yet you know like you've got the ████ Sobe you know what's crazy dude what you
20:22 were saying about uh about the simulated gang ████ too is I remember we almost got in trouble because a dude that was hanging with us when we worked at the mall had lied and said he was a black dragon and when you lied remember that ████ like when you hear somebody's like faking it yeah and they all just rolled up to the mall and we had to close the ████ oh ████ yeah yeah and we didn't know that he was just like lying this whole time we're like bro you could got all of us killed yes over nothing that gets a lot of people in trouble honestly like because people was will claim something and then like the other gangs would think okay we have problems with them yeah like what the hell happened and then it just from that one cause the whole thing on the side yeah so he started a new fight that didn't even exist because he pretended right that's wild inherited the beef basically and you know and he
21:13 said it to impress a girl who was like friends with black dragon so it's like you ████ up like he wasn't she wasn't impressed no black dragon sounds cool I know I know that sounds so cool man that's what you would joined they wouldn't they would know that like this guy ain't gonna make it these guys this guy's ears are cheap yeah they're like no way bro [Laughter] I could start an Asian gang generator so there's two types you should career the first type is you get a color and an animal you put it together and you go yellow lizards green frogs you know and then the other
22:06 one is like something boys oh yeah you know ████ hahaha
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