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Possessive Friendships & Choosing Not to Propose

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0:00 I actually think the opposite of Filipino Uh-huh. is is Filipino. Oh, how so? Because the opposite of black is white and white is black, but opposite of gray, I think, is still gray. We're stupid. Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys, where we get some uh very useful knowledge out of Melissa Bonos here. Hey. Um, I want let's ask her about how like you had brought this up earlier and how like girlto girl friendships work and how they can get really intense and possessive and and uh almost like you're held accountable for a lot more things rather than versus guys when they're chums. It like kind of doesn't really matter. But how do you navigate like uh being friends with a girl who starts to say that you're her best friend, but it's like you haven't gotten there [Applause]

0:51 yet. Has it ever happened to you? No, I have three best friends though. But they're all interesting. Do they possess you from each other or was there ever a point like that? Possess? Yeah. With the zombie dude? Um, no. I think we're all in a pretty mature uh best friend relationship. Are they best friends with each other, too? No. Are there just through you? Like this direction? Just through me? Well, two of them are sisters, Carla and Danny. And then I have another best friend, but they don't know they know each other now. They don't know about each other. Um, but no, I don't think I have any issues with people thinking I'm their best friend. That's never happened where someone's like, "We're besties now." And you're just like, "Oh, what?" No, that'd be so weird. You know, like I uh like some like you'll hear this in some girl groups where they let girls get like

1:41 catty or whatever, but you don't really hear guy groups get catty. Like, what do you think? Depends on what kind of guy you They do. They do. I feel like I get caddyy in this group with you guys. Oh, do you? Mhm. How do you get catty with how do why do what is the dynamic of girls getting caddyy? Yeah. I think people just like when it's a big group of girls, people start talking about each other about each other's backs and all that stuff. So I I do feel like when I worked at a restaurant, there were a lot of like girl groups like that. They would all fight all the time, but also just go out drinking the next day together. So I wasn't really part of that. You think they're kind of a little bit more judgmental at times? Like for sure. Like if ladies reveal something about like their personal life, they'll weaponize it behind their back. They're like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa." You ever see that stuff happen where like ladies start to be like, "I can't believe ladies reveal." Ladies reveal. No, people do. Yeah, it's for sure about

2:31 It's It's people talking behind people's back. I feel like guys do the same thing, but just in front of their face and it's it's like funny. Yeah. It's like immediately talk ████ about random stuff or call people out on stuff, but it's like it's what builds the relationship. That's true. What level of like bad thing has happened where like you couldn't be friends anymore with a girl? Like what was the type of thing? You don't have to say exactly what it was, but like what was the level of like I guess um mishap that occurred? There's actually only one person that I remember and it's not even that good of a story. Great. Better. Yeah. Then we have something to compare it to with guys. Well, okay. It's going to be so dumb. So we were saving up for a Europe trip for like a fivew week Europe trip and um this was when we were younger. So money was money was scarce. Was this like

3:23 college or like right after college? It was like early college. Yeah. So I was bas I was just a server at the time like we were just working at a restaurant and um she would always be on my back about like oh look I I saw you uh I saw you going out. Are you sure you're saving for the Europe trip? And that really started to piss me off. Mhm. I told you it was so dumb. I saw your Dave Busters card. already had a lot of points. Are you just playing games? Not getting any tickets? Cuz what was she worried about? That like you weren't going to be able to go on the trip. She was just trying to be my mom. I fear, you know? I just was kind of like, "No, like I'm an adult. I I can I'm saving for it the way that you would or I mean, you just just just back off basically." So, I ended up actually not going on that journey. Oh, you didn't go on that one? And she's probably like, I ████ knew she had That's not the one that you The Spain

4:13 one was a different one. I went on a different one. Okay. Damn, you just bailed on the whole trip. You went by yourself on the whole trip. No, I Yeah, I mean, she probably would have been like that the whole time, huh? Probably. Sounds like a bummer. Cuz there are people that travel with you. Did you bail on that relationship in general? I did. It never It never Wow. That's the only friendship that I could really remember not ever recovering and it was over something kind of stupid. What if she's like thinking, "Oh, Bonos is just saving up to be really good friends with me later." The deliberate people kind of stupid. Both sides. I mean, that is a lifestyle red flag thing though. Yeah, that makes sense though, cuz that's like it's the small things that you might run into all the time versus like a giant mistake can be like forgiven because that's such a rare occurrence. Mhm. M but something that's like that's your personality that'll

5:04 just be versus like Yeah. Cuz like it sounds like she's more of like a conclusion jumper. So I think if you're actually concerned, you're like, "Oh, how's the saving coming along?" Yeah. Then it comes less from a I'mma control you versus like watching what you are you sure you're saving. That's nagging. That's a different telling me I'm irresponsible. And I'm just, you know, and no one likes that. Especially when you're younger. You don't like being told what to do. Especially early college. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. Would this friend Nagget like your other group of friends too? Was she kind of like she showed that in her character a little bit? No, she's still cool with everyone else. She just knew you were the responsible one, I guess. So, yeah, that is weird. I wouldn't want to be Well, is there a positive spin for that kind of behavior? Is there like What's the good quality? I was trying to help her. Well, I think it comes from a positive place.

5:54 Yeah. But the way it comes out, the execution, I think what's what is most important. It comes out from a selfish place rather than a truly caring place. I see. Cuz if you're truly caring, oh, how's the saving coming along? Maybe I could help you. Whatever. But if it's it's more so like, are you doing your job the way I'm doing my job? It's like a different it's coming out wrong. That's weird. Yeah. For sure. It's how it came out. Yeah. Or also though, like even if you didn't save up enough, like how is that like going to negatively affect her so much? It would affect her cuz it affects you know where you stay, where you go, what you're going to spend over there. So it would it would affect her. Yeah. So she was right to outcast each other. No. What's her name? No. No. No. No. Almost had it. I'm going to look at the camera

6:45 and say her name right now. Was she of similar ethnicity to you? No. Opposite ethnicity. What would that be? Yes. What is the opposite of Filipino? Is it Vietnamese? No, dude. Wouldn't opposite be like opposite side of the world? Wait, do you think she I remember we said Damn. Also, that'd be so funny. Oh, so you're not Filipino. No, here we go again. I actually think the opposite of Filipino Uh-huh. is is Filipino. Oh, how so? Because the opposite of black is white and white is black, but opposite of gray I think is still gray. We're gray. Stupid. Does she look Anthony? Does she look for my head? She could pass for Filipino for sure. Do you know what she really is? No. Oh, you don't know. Uh, were you here? No, he wasn't here. Guess her uh

7:37 her last name is Bono. Bonos. Bonos. Bonos. Bonos. Bonositos. Bonos. Some sort of Hispanic or Latin. Yeah, it's a good guess. So, it's two things. Once you own the two things in your mix, it's not any ████ thing. No, but I'm 96% of one of them, so it's barely a mix. 96. God damn. He's not even 96 Chinese. 99, brother. Wilkins. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Whatever's on your brain right now, say it in three, two, one. Black. No, he caught on to the Wilkins. That's Wilkins too much. Close. 96% black. Damn, dude. I'm not guessing. Just speak a language you know to her. See if she can understand you. Go ahead. Uh um hero. What the I don't language.

8:32 Uh no. Okay. I don't know what the ████ you just said to me right now. But that was Cantonese, huh? No. Damn. Maybe you're not from that entire region. Maybe I have no idea what she is. That means she's definitely not Chinese or Vietnamese. Oh, did she assume that that was Cantonese? Detective Conan over here. There's got to be some spice of Asian in there. I don't think so. What makes you think something crazy? Like, hey, put your eyes back a little bit. I would just think send him off the trail. Region and relatability to growing up with Ryan for a long time. I think sometimes it's like really helpful that you have a similar background so that there's some sort of foundation. But say Indian. Cypian. It's Indian. Cypian. Cypian. Honestly, I'm done guessing. I think that's boring. Can you just tell me and we can move on? So, you are Chinese? I am. Oh, I just

9:22 guessed Cantonese real bad right now. How would you not know that? I wasn't speaking. Sounded like It kind of sounded like It did sound like Cantonese. I I kind of thought you were saying Oh, interesting. Probably how you said it. It was probably you. I thought you were saying can something Cantonese with a Vietnamese accent. That's what I thought. Oh, really? You guys are all ████ Oh, I don't speak Kanto, you know. Yeah. Okay, cool. So, you're Chinese. 96%. Mhm. 4% black. Black. What's your father? 4%. Cambodian. That's crazy. 4% Cambodian and you came out Filipino. That's all it takes. That's the Spanish last name. You got to do Dang, dude. That's like the ████ creamer in the coffee, right? Oh, that's true. Yeah. Creamer and coffee. Yeah. Put a little bit of half and half and the whole thing just turns ████

10:12 cappuccino. That's another mixing analogy. He's been nailing it today. Bart's got a 50/50 on it. What up, guys? Come join our Patreon because there's hundreds of videos dating all the way back to 2019. That's right. If you click on the link down below, you can join our Patreon, join us on the Discord, come chat with us directly, have a fun conversation, and this will help support the channel's growth and new ideas. and also tap into our closer community by joining our Discord and get the opportunity to suggest video ideas like the ones you've seen. Thank you guys. Join our Patreon. Help us out. Thanks. See you guys there. Say hi to me. The here's a question that actually a fan had asked this a long time ago, but like how do you become best friends with a girl? Like who says it? Is there like a declaration? Like what what what is the thing that happens? It just happens. Kind of loser

11:02 ass question. Realize like you just realize that's your that's your ride or die. That's the person you talk to every day. That's the person you want to call when something fun happens, when you're sad. Um, the person you depend on, someone who doesn't judge you. Oh, that's how you know. That's the biggest thing. And I think most of the time that becomes mutual. So, I feel like it's weird for it to be only one-sided, unless that one-sided person doesn't have a lot of friends and this is a person they've latched on to. Damn. Yeah. Like a like a like a friend-zoned guy, probably. Dang. Is it one of those things where like you guys share things with each other and you kind of get more and more vulnerable and then like one of the things that you're like, I've never really shared this with anyone and you kind of like put it out there. Oh, and they're like, oh ████ still no judgment. That's cool. And not only that, we relate on that. Oh ████

11:54 And then you're like, you don't even have to say it, but you guys know you guys are best friends. Is that how that works? I think so. Yeah. I don't think I ever have to say like, "Hey, are are you are we uh best best friends?" Like I I don't feel like I would ever have to do that. That'd be a bummer if you had to. Do you think so with that logic, do you think guys should ever propose? Uh yeah, I think that's a little bit different. That's why I never proposed. He never proposed his way. What? I didn't propose cuz No, because a little bit different. So No, because I was like, we are obviously married now. Yeah. How did you get that to happen? Just like how you guys became best friends. However, you guys best friend. My my dad proposed to my mom and she never said yes, but they got married. What? Yeah. So, wait, he did the whole thing and then she was like I think they

12:44 did it over dinner or something. What? Yeah. And she was just like she never answered and then they just they started Oh, it must have been like a Chinese answer like will you marry me? And she was just like [Laughter] that is a very Chinese a Chinese yes. That's actually very accurate. Chinese yes. Yeah, he never proposed. If they don't say no, then that's a yes and a Chinese. I think it's pretty cool that you didn't propose. I think it's kind of fun. Except she rubs it in my face. I didn't propose. Oh, but I did at the jewelry store after. You ended up making up for it. But you propose after you guys got married. Do you think you ever will? Why would he do it now? I think so. I think I want to. Hey, September. He wants to. Oh, yeah. What happens? It gets an old Well, if she says no, I'll try to get

13:34 our son to convince her to say yes. Oh, good. Good. Rethink it. Mom, say no again. Also, did you guys have a wedding? We did. How did that come about? Did you get her a ring? Does this poor lady have a ring? I got the ring after rings. I got the ring after after you got married. I mean, do did you and your best friend have a ring? I think it's it's the same way you guys become best friends. You guys are just become best friends. You guys know you guys are best friends. Yeah, but we're not planning a wedding. Oh, really? You're not planning a wedding? We're best friends. Oh, so we just became uh marriage partners. Mhm. And then we had a marriage wedding. Yeah. And then the LLC formed itself. Oh ████ I got poker chips.

14:24 So, so what the ████ Just randomly. Yeah, I don't know. Which casino? How much? The ice house in Pasadena. This is good for one free standard item. Expires 123124. This is expired. No, there's a drink waiver. It's a drink. Yeah, it's a drink ticket. Huh? That's from the show you guys did. That's hella. You didn't use your drink tickets. I was actually excited. I was Oh, she got money. Have you ever met anybody that didn't propose but got married? Two right here. No, that's a new one for me. I've never There's two right here. Pretty cool hack. Yeah, same deal. How did yours work? How did you guys get married without proposing? She needed a passport. I'm a pass No, she's a I'm a I'm a Even that requires some level of discussion. Yeah. How did you avoid asking her to marry you?

15:15 So, um I Well, basically, you know, the um when she came to the airport, ████ immigration held her up. Yeah. When they held her up. Yeah. And we're like, "Yo, that's ████ up. She's on a legal visa." And then they're like, "Well, we can choose when we want to like let her in and not." And I'm like, "That's ████ up, dude." So, then I called Hawk's lawyer. He he introduced me cuz, you know, he's an illegal immigrant from the UK. So, I called his lawyer, super nice dude. And then he goes, "Here's all your options." He's like, "She can be a student that's like around 40k or whatever, student visa. She get a job here and then be get like on a work visa, whatever." And there's also marriage. And I was like, "Oh, how much is that?" And he goes, "Just a couple grand or whatever." And I'm like, "Is

16:06 that the K1 visa?" It's the marriage visa. Yeah. So it's I don't know what exactly it is, but it's not the 90day one. That one's like you have to do it before you come here. Yeah. So, and then so Yeah. And then I was like, well, um, it's either I marry you or I don't see you in the next 6 months at least. That's a sick proposal. Damn. He's just like, hey, so option one, option two, or option three. Yeah. So then when the uh so after we had our meeting with the lawyer, I was like, guess we're getting married. Oh, guess her getting a student visa. What did she say? She didn't She wasn't. She said, "You want to get married or you got 40k?" Yeah. And then later, uh, she called me her fiance and I'm like, "I ain't your fiance." And she's like, "What? Yes,

16:57 we're getting married." And I'm like, "I know, but we're boyfriend and girlfriend." I know. Down to marrier, but will not be a fiance. Yeah. Cuz I'm like I'm like, "It's I I'm not a fiance." I buy that. I ain't your customer though. I didn't propose. Why is he black? I didn't propose. Get a ring. We're not engaged because you can't spell engaged without gay. You really did like. So she was like cuz I think she was like, "Wait, she goes, you know, you're my fiance, right?" I'm like, "I am?" And I'm like, "But I didn't propose or get a ring, so how am I in that zone? I thought we're boyfriend girlfriend zone." Oh. Oh, and that you would just jump straight into Yeah, cuz I thought that fiance and engagement was because you went through that ceremonial part of the proposal and then now you got the ring and then now

17:48 you're like I feel like fiance's intent to marry. Yes. Yeah. But then that's boyfriend and girlfriend, too. No. True. No, you're supposed to be making up your own ████ Maybe that's boyfriend, too. You went straight to wife. I think so, too. I think cuz boyfriend and girlfriend is pretty much rent to own too. No. Yep. It is. Yeah. But rent to own. But like rent to buy. But but it's like it's like you still give yourself a situation where they could be like, "All right, your lease is up. What do you want to do?" And then you could be like, "I don't like this. Trade in. Trade in. Trade in." I feel like there's always one evolution between like Charizard and like the first one. Yeah. You didn't want to have Charmander. Yeah. Whatever his name is. Also, also when you lease, you can't change it too much. You can't just like change the color and stuff like that, you know? You can't customize it. That's why I got traded. And if

18:38 something happens to it, you Oh, it's just a lease, you know? Damn. Interesting. Both of you guys. That's That's so interesting. Yeah. And then that's why Hannah just keeps roasting my ass about you didn't even propose. You didn't propose. And I was like, fine. I go to Jer sponsorship. There's a common thread where both Hannah and Gio are roasting you guys about not proposing. Does Nina give you I keep telling her. But is there I did propose like but I proposed at J Jewelers. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, but there's no when they roast you about that. That's just 100% jokes. There's no 1%. Not for Bart. Well, here's the thing. Here's the thing. Well, here's the thing. For I think um and you maybe correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like chicks always have a 1% Oh, like a little dig in there. Yeah. Cuz I'll be

19:29 like, I'll just do it whenever. Whatever. A It's too late. It's too late. I'm like, ████ nothing's too late. You ████ go to a cliff right now and ████ whatever. You know, let the squirrel see. Let the squirrel see and then the ████ squirrels go, "Oh, good job." Snow White. Do you have a big anniversary coming up? Like what? How many years have you been married? Get out of here. How'd you Oh, 10 year wedding anniversary is this year. Really? Oh, this is the year to propose. Oh, yeah. How should I do it? From the heart, you dumbass. Jesus. Be romantic. Romantic. Does she like what? What does she enjoy? Honestly, you should go full ████ like over the She likes mint chocolate chip ice cream cake. She likes blood in blood out. Hey, what's up? What

20:19 do you mean what full? Just go whatever the cliche like over the top romance movie ████ You should probably do that like at a Laker game. No, she like that to come and not like that. Does she like the outdoors? She likes outdoors. I think Does she like nice restaurants? It's just got to feel like you put in some thought. Yeah, that's because I think she would I don't think she likes my thoughts. That's what makes it real though. If it's like kind of dumb that because Bart's going to make the perfect engagement for himself and then Jill's going to be pissed at him and that's going to be great until you're 20. Like a piñata. You suck a pinñata. Yeah, that's like her culture, right? Oh, that's what she likes, right? Maybe. Does she like piñatas? I guess she has to. She used to when she was a kid. Maybe

21:10 you should probably You should probably involve Ta as a ring bearer. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Have your zombie in it. Then she can't get mad at you. That's a unique aspect. Then I feel like she's going to use that against me. But I'm This is probably the only proposal where people already have a son or something. And she's going to use it against you no matter what you do. That's the risk though. That's the risk you got to take. Thank you for thinking. You got to take that risk though. Yeah. You got to take that risk. That's going to be part of it. She's going to find something. Everything that you're going to do, she's going to use against you. Everyone's going to find something our whole life. Do you think in a 10 year anniversary of most weddings, do they give like a a gift at the 10 year? Yeah, I would think so. 10 years is a big milestone. What level of gift would you think like a proposal would be a good level to each other or item wise? What kind of gifts too? Like a husband to wife or wife to husband? Both. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't think it has to be I don't think there's a monetary value. I think

22:00 there I'm very sentimental. So, I would want something sentimental. A little seashell. Yeah. If you picked it from this beach. Actually, my husband gives me seashells all the time. Your husband gave you a cooler. What if your husband gave you a cooler and he opened the cooler and it's his kidney? That's pretty sentimental, right? I don't ████ need his kidney though. That's tight. Yeah, but then it's nice to have one. Like, good. We have one in the back stop. No, that would cause us more issues. He's like, "Enjoy. I got to go to the bathroom.

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