0:00 I really hope my parents don't find this. And then my brother shut it off and he's like, "Dad, I listened to the podcast. I I I don't think you should listen to it. It's just nothing you can learn from it." I was freaking out. I was like, "Dad, give me your phone." Welcome back everybody to another also special episode of Careful Boys where we are with Above the Influence. A T I That's like That's I. That's ATI 11 the A Hit the I. That's us. Is it backwards? No. No, that's not backwards. Yeah, yeah, we mirror all our videos. Okay, so um Jordan So like you are obviously a self-made macho rich man.
0:50 Um UTI is no longer and they're at the bottom of the barrel right now. Like why did you want to join this? What barrel? Um I feel like you think we're like, you know, like Thank you, Jordan. So Mid middle of them. How about a rebirth? A phoenix rising from the ashes. I've like been on a couple podcasts of theirs in the past, had fun doing it. Um been on like a few other people's podcasts and like in in various like YouTube things over the years. Kind of just something like I wanted to do for fun. And like it's super easy with like Woo Tak and like Esther and and Kira. Um And Viet That guy's name is Viet. Well, I Well, technically I'm not a I'm not an official member of ATI. Oh, okay. How have you How have you talked about He's been on a couple We like briefly mentioned it. He's been on one. He's going to be on the very next one. But yeah. Um but yeah, no, I just kind of wanted
1:40 to do it for fun really. Like I I don't really need it for like business or anything. It's just uh kind of like a Fun thing. side passion. Yeah, and I'm not like an influencer or anything. I don't post any content myself or anything. Just did do it for fun. Yeah. Do it for the plot. Do it for the plot. That's literally just like It's kind of like a side project for me. It's like I could save this. It was like that. Well, not like I I I think it'll be fun too to like really test like my marketing stuff on it too. Like I I really want to ramp it up quick and see how how big I can grow a podcast and like hire I could have imagined. You want a real challenge? Try to try to grow this one. That's easy. Yeah, try to grow this one. You got a real challenge. Let's see. Well, he got hired for the color of his skin, not for his skills. No, no, he got hired for how rich he is.
2:30 That's crazy. No, yeah, he's got he's got crazy things he can do. in like, you know, real life friends. So the conversations are way more smooth than just having Feels natural. Exactly, yeah. And we've known Kira for a while now, too. Yeah, but we just got close, but she fits right in. And what was your background? We didn't talk about like how you started like work or what did you do? Oh yeah, so um I'm I'm a biotech founder. So I started a biotech company doing like cancer diagnostics, um prenatal testing, and then took it public in Canada. I exited and then started another biotech company. And then halfway through I'm like, "This is kind of soul sucking." have ████ you money, too? No, my parents have ████ you money, but I'm broke now. So I'm pivoting into like content. So like my background was in like science. That's why I know all the facts, you know. Um like the the study says. But um I really want to be able to um kind of take the scientific like knowledge and
3:21 background that I learned and then make digestible kind of like what Woo Tak does. But I have I just haven't started the content. It's in my head. And then now I'm ATI's. Oh, ████ I want to pivot to, you know, um content creation. But I'm also head of business at a talent agency. So like it works cuz like a lot of my friends are influencers. So I could feed them deals while, you know, like yeah, be on the So as fresh new up-to-date content creators, what advice you have for dinosaurs like us that have been in the game and don't stay up on the cutting edge? Stop. Just quit. Quit while Guys, what are you guys getting OFF THE INTERNET? THAT'S A ████ SICK ASS QUESTION. HEY, beat his ass. But can I say I just love dinosaur
4:12 content creators? Because the study shows No, no, because like the So this is my first time like meeting all of you guys, and I know um like you guys were like are like household names like in the Asian content creator space. Like people know like you guys are like They're like legends, right? We're like relics. And and it's We're like heirlooms. WE'RE LIKE PAT MORITA. THE VIBES THAT YOU guys bring, it's like you guys are so like I don't know, like humble and like what I've noticed with like the newer Gen Z content creators who got like really rich and famous really fast, they have this like, "Oh, I'm better than you. I'm too cool for you" energy where But they get hell of views though. I know. They're allowed to be like that. Wait till we get some views. we went through that and then we burned through all the money. That's what MADE US HUMBLE. NO, WE GOT HUMBLED. LIKE WE WERE 23
5:04 ████ doing well. And then all the money disappeared. So now we're in this s█████ place. But we want to be like that. Like we want to be balling so we could brag again, but we just can't. We want to ████ on our fans. Wait, who would you guys say are like your main like fans? Like the demographics. Like are they millennials, Asian? No, they're probably millennials. I would say like late 20s to 40 like up to 40. Yeah, they grew with us. So it's like No, actually it's like it's like probably from your guys' age up uh and above. There's people that are like, "I used to watch you in high school and now I graduated medical school." Like like ████ 10, 12 years and ████ Jeremy was like a super fan. And like when he first met you guys, he was like, "Holy ████ I used to watch y'all every day." I was just telling her over there actually. It's like y'all are
5:54 Of of the people I've met that I grew up watching, y'all are the realest. Yes. genuinely. You're the ones that I've met and I was like, "Oh, they like They're They're even cooler than I thought." That means we're the most least successful. They're brothers down on their luck. That's That's the equivalent. The more successful, the more ████ But that's But that shows how fake these people are. Honestly, like when you meet them when you meet them in real life, you're you're just kind of like, "Oh, you're so different from what you portray online." And that kind of It's It's a little disappointing. And I'm not trying to say like, "Oh, if you're like this on the internet, you should be exactly like that." But it is kind of like, "Aw." At the very least, if you're like If you're like a virtue signaler signaler online, but in real life you're a piece of ████ Like it's like you played me. Yeah. Absolutely.
6:44 Yeah, we're pieces of ████ online, but like homies in real life. boring person. People that were ████ on us during our cancellation and they were virtual virtue signal signaling, they're also in real life not They're not that great. They usually are. I mean, it's miserable that get involved in that kind of ████ you know? They get wrapped up in it. When you actually got a life with like friends, family, people you love, like when the camera shuts off, you're busy doing that ████ You ain't got time to post. Yeah, you got a real life. Yeah, that's why we're not making any money, dude. We got to post more. We got to stop going to dinner. We got to stop ████ hanging out with family. Yeah, stop going home to your family. Stop hanging out with Tyga, man. He's Yeah, but then if I made an Instagram post, he'd I would have been successful. I haven't posted anything in 3 weeks. We should buy food just to take a picture to make it look like we're
7:34 eating and then we leave right after. ████ you guys. We're fake dinner. I just appreciate that like, you know, uh as you continue to strategically build this team. I think that's where strategically like, you know, whether it's like the DEI hire or like the money or like the science bio nerd or whatever, you're like, "Oh, this is strategic. It's going to make sense for the growth." I feel like these guys are like, "You're available. Not for real? The way I built this company is I want to hang out with this guy, so you're invited. Like this guy, no following, nothing. He goes, "For 2 years straight, I don't even know why you guys invite me." And I'm like, "Cuz you laugh at our jokes and you make me feel good. That's why you're invited." And you're funny, too. He's naturally entertaining. That's the thing is he didn't understand that. So you got to pay him less cuz he thought he was useless. He did a podcast and he doesn't even still think he's good enough. Really? Yeah. He's on the ████ Casuals MMA
8:26 podcast. 2 years for real just deflecting every question and always I don't know why I'm here still. Yeah. Still feels like Is this good content? Is this good That was his line. Like what are we doing here? Wait, guys, sorry. Can I Can someone throw me the tongs? I'm getting sick. I got you, dog. Can Can Can you No. No problem for you. Damn. So what got you into the science world? Um my dad has a biotech She talked She talked some already. Oh, so you guys You guys exited as a family? Oh, no, no. So my dad So he's like the founder CEO of like a publicly traded biotech company in South Korea and has a like a whole like supplement one of the biggest supplement companies in like Canada. So I was exposed to like business and biotech from a very early age. Yeah. So um yeah, he's probably not super proud of me doing podcasting. Literally when my dad found out like, "Oh, you're you're on a podcast? Like let's on a
9:16 family trip." He's like, "Let's put it Let's put it on. We'll all watch it together as a family." And that's literally where I talk about like cucking and like Oh, ████ And then And then literally my dad turned it on and the first thing I said on the podcast was, "I really hope my parents don't find this." Because And then my brother shut it off and he's like, "Dad, I listened to the podcast. I I I don't think you should listen to it. It's just nothing you can learn from it. Let's just shut it off." Wait, were you there? Wait, why'd you Why'd you let them turn it off? freaking out. I was like, "Dad, give me your phone." Wait, so does Does he know? I I feel like they they gave up. I mean, he's on Instagram. He's been liking my ████ And I'm like, "Mhm." He like knows all about all of my crazy stories. He's on Instagram? Hey, let's tag him on the cut up. Hey, my mom has also told me she watches the podcast sometimes and I'm like which episodes? Because I'm like Does she Does she like me? Huh?
10:09 You're not talking about me. Anyways, yeah, and then I'm just too afraid to like delve into see what she's figured out. Cuz I'm like, damn, I talk about doing drugs, like ████ I think my mom as long as I'm not back in jail, my mom's cool. No, my mom don't speak English. Yeah, my friends would kill Okay, my mother-in-law watches this show and we're over here like, would you ████ your mom? Yeah, my mom watches this show, too. She knows her favorite episodes, huh? Wait, your mother-in-law? Wait, and she's She likes it? She likes the show? She I'm like, I can do no wrong in her eyes. As long as I take good care of her daughter, I'm good. Has she Has she watched full episodes before? I honestly think so. Oh, no ████ That's my worst nightmare, honestly. It's definitely the worst. Oh, my mom watches full episodes for sure. She's probably laughing. Yeah, I think a lot of them she's laughing and a lot of them she's like, I can't believe she said that. But I think she knows my personality by
11:00 now that she's like, this is just the way it is. My dad has watched an episode, but he doesn't understand what we're saying, but he he he did say That's the sweet spot. He was like he was like, oh, I watched it, but I don't know what you're saying, but it seems like a lot of people like you. And then I was just like, okay, cool. That's fine. That's exactly That's best case scenario. That is best case scenario. My mom speaks way too much English. I was I'm cooked. Cuz like the parents being able to like see you online is like them tapping into a side that they're not supposed to meet. Like it's like Cuz they have an image of you. Just eating dinner at home and ████ not getting your dick sucked, you know? So I'm like, I'm a virgin, mom, please. I remember I got a phone call several years back and my mom's like, "You know, I found out what a ████ was and you have kids watching, you probably shouldn't talk about that."
11:52 I found out what a ████ is. That's a crazy thing. One of the first videos my mom watched of ours was me and him used to play these characters called USA American Martial Arts Show Show and it it's Samuel and Daniel and then we turned we turned uh sexual moves into self-defense. And there's this one where like I don't know if I even showed my mom, but I'm on the ground like humping the ground. And my mom's like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Oh, it's just like a different type of push-up." And she's like, "Oh, you teach world exercise, good." Cuz in her mind she always has to make things like positive and as long as it's a positive She's just in denial. Next one is like, this is the 69. What's that?
12:42 Forearm exercise, mom. Partner workout. Oh my god. I don't even Oh my god, I don't want to think about it. I don't want to think about my mom watching. You should just spring questions on her and ask her like what she's seen. She dropped She dropped it so casually, I'm like, am I in trouble? Like, you know, you better you better beat my ass. I've been thinking of like I did We did a whole episode on like I did ayahuasca and like ████ met god and deities and ████ came back and was like having anxiety attacks and ████ I'm like, did you watch that? Like, you know, like me telling my deepest darkest traumas, like Did she watch that one? I don't know. I hope not, but She She wouldn't bring it up to you if she watched it. I feel like she if she did see it and and started to realize too much about me, she would she's smart enough to be like, me berating him about this as an adult
13:32 would not do us any favors. So I'm just going to Yeah, I'm proud of him. Like he's I I trust in him to like lead his life positively. I'm going to just uh But also I think it it makes it semi okay if you're saying like weird ████ on the internet if you're making a lot of money from it. Like you have made so much money off of social media that at this point I think your parents are like, at least at least he's making money. Like me, I'm sharing my cook stories and I'm not getting paid a single cent. So I'm like, I'm a clown. We're working up to We're working up to YOU KNOW HOW MUCH YOU KNOW HOW MUCH OF A FOOL I HAVE to make out of myself to make money on social Paying dues. Yeah. We went years without anything. Yeah. Often times paying money into it. We're in those years right now. We're back, baby. It's It's cyclical, you know? You're paying to ruin your own life. The opposite is my kid growing up old enough That's my when he starts watching YouTube and he's like, "Dad, what's this?" But he's going to think you're a
14:22 legend, though. Or be embarrassed. Tycho's going to make fun of you. He's going to be like, "Stop." Oh, he's It's such millennial humor versus whatever his is going to be. What is he Gen Alpha or like what is that? I think it's Gen A. He's skibidi Yeah, he's skibidi up. Yeah, skibidi. He he says like, "What the sigma? It's a skibidi." He says Ohio. He says all kinds of ████ weird words. What's Ohio? Like it's something's whack. Oh, that's ████ up. Poor Ohio. Another new one I heard is it goes, "Man, that's tofu." No way. Like it's bland? Like tofu's soft? It's whack. It's just whack. Why is tofu Am I aging out of the internet? Like I haven't heard some of these terms before. Tofu's crazy. That's a That's a new one. But what's crazy is so he
15:12 understands that we are like an internet family. So he'll he understands that now and then him and his friends are like talking ████ to each other during recess and then he is like, "Oh, just look me up then." And then they look him up and he's like, "What the hell? There's all these videos There's all these views." He goes, "Yeah, you got to put some respect on my name." And he's seven. Talking ████ on his friends at the playground. going to be successful because he's not humble. I'm like, "Respect on their name." There's no tough times for him. My parents are doing really good right now. the outdoor boys and just start dropping them off in the wilderness. Make your way back, dog. I'm like, "Dude, that's ████ crazy." He's like, "Look at these comments. Look at this engagement right But but you seen that he has his son doing like solo ones now? Like What?
16:02 Separate? He did it like What's outdoor boys? I've just seen like clips of his son doing it for the first time. Yeah. It's like this Alaskan doctor like just for fun. He him and his he would go out in the wilderness and do catching cooks and camping in snow. And then he but he looks like your total dork, though. But he's like a sweet ass dad and he have his sons and they go out in the family and like He's mad unhealthy, though. Like Bro, he's in the middle of nowhere in like Canada like snow like Making bread. Oh, when he makes the bread I don't know why he chose bread as like the That's like a difficult food to make in the wild. he said it's easy. He said it only had a flour and something like He goes in with a of like sourdough starter and then and then he just makes the dough and it's like so funny. Me and my wife we got inspired by that a while ago, so we went camping to like and we wanted to make bread and it was a ████ disaster. Make bread outdoors?
16:54 Do you have kids? Or not? No. Or do you plan on it? Yeah. Ah, okay, nice. Do you uh are you going to put him through tough times or Oh, tough times. I'd put him through tough times. I'm going to be in the middle, though, because like of course it's going to be impossible to do exactly what my parents did to me. That's just going to be zero love. Yeah, I like just I'm going to have a bad time. Like I went through tough times so I can have a good time, too. So I'm conflicted, but it can't just be it can't just be all good stuff. Especially if it's a boy. Girl, I don't know. It's very difficult. like you don't pamper Tycho, though. Well, I still feel like he he receives lessons from you that that sons wish they would from their Tycho calls him BART SOMETIMES. NO. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? I got to show you guys something. Oh, this is like Damn, you're mad American.
17:45 Wait, I would I would be okay with my kid calling me Esther. No, but the way the way he does is ████ funny. It's he's too funny, though. Tycho's like he'll he'll roast you, bro. Like he'll really make Oh, in that sense that is. Yeah, and so he'll get your ass, you know? He'll He'll come out of nowhere and say I have to ████ screenshot this. So Tycho uh texted this to Geo. You just read it out. No, it's It's funnier when you read it. You got to see it. What was Show the audience. He texted THIS TO GEO. IMAGINE YOUR SON SENDING YOU THAT or sending your wife that. Talking to me. He doesn't even calling me Bart. He's talking to Geo calling Geo Bart. Wait, wait, what did what did Geo say about No, he said you have to see this. So he got the emotional damage
18:36 meme and then said that's Bart. And texted that to his mom. mom. That's crazy. She screenshotted it, but was she laughing or was she just like No, she was dying. That's hilarious. Yeah, and I so I I was like, dude, this guy is ████ next level. Were you Were you laughing or were you upset or any like what's your emotion? I always laugh first. If it's funny, I always laugh. And if And to him like cuz he'll ask me random questions like he's like, "Is damn a bad word?" Or like what what does ████ mean? Is that a bad word? And I always tell him like it's really about the intention and appropriateness. It really is about the intention. So I'm like, at school I'm like, you think it's appropriate to say ████ in the middle of a class? He's like, "No." I'm like, "Yeah." You know, so I'm like, "But when you're a grown-up and you're like ████ working on the house and you
19:26 drop a hammer on your toe, you're probably going to say f███." And it's okay. So I think like with him him calling me by my first name is crazy, but depending on his attention and his intention I like let it slide or not. I feel like that's good parenting. If I'm lecturing him, he goes, "All right, whatever you say, BART." I'M LIKE, THAT'S THE RIGHT ANSWER. Since you're going to talk like a grown man. But if he's ████ around and he's having a good time, then I'm like, all right, he's he's ████ around. Say "bart" again. Yeah, when you when you guys came on our on UTI, like I feel like I learned a lot about parent like where it was like I've always thought about that where it's like, how do I give my son the right amount of trauma to make sure he tries to keep up the generational wealth that I'm planning on building, right? And it's like cuz you if you're too soft and
20:17 I give you too much and you're just not going to be hungry enough to like keep it up, right? But I'm like, I went through too much trauma that I don't want to give you that, you know? And then hearing you talk about like how you discipline your son or how like just the the meaning behind the lesson of like the intention. I'm like, that sounds like a solution. Yeah, cuz like what I try to teach him is like the rules of our family and then the rules of the world. Whereas I think our parents are like, okay, these are the rules of the school. Those are the only rules. Yeah. So I tell him like if there's someone that is bullying you, first step is run away. Get out of the situation. Second step, if it happens again, try to find a teacher. He does jujitsu though. I was like, third step, if you you can't run away, you can't find a teacher, and you feel like your life is in danger, ████ them up. Nice. And he goes, "What if What if I get into What if I get kicked out of school?" I'm like, "Then ████ that school, cuz at the end of the day we're
21:07 going to protect you." Yeah. And I see his eyes open like ████ wide like, "F███ that school? That's crazy." I didn't know that was ON THE TABLE, YOU KNOW? LIKE, THAT WAS an option? But I But I want him to know that like you got to follow the rules, but at the end of the day we're going to protect you no matter what, and that's what's most important. the next day he's like, "F███ this school." Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what my dad told me? If someone tries to fight you, you just just take it. Just don't fight. He was like, "Just don't fight." That's all Just don't fight. And I was like, okay. time I ever didn't get my ass beat for getting in trouble in school was when I fought for a good reason. Like if if I ever fought where I started it, got my ass beat. But there was like I think there was two times where one I was protecting like some other girl. Oh, yeah. And the other one was like protecting myself. And both times I distinctly remember like oh, ████ I fought again. It sucks losing a fight too at that age and then going home and getting your ass beat for it.
21:58 That's That really sucks. Yeah. You didn't get your ass beat for fighting the same way. I was like, hey. Cool. I got off scot-free. But then my dumb ass was like, I got off scot-free this time. What happens next time? Fought again, got my ass beat. I'm thinking like when I'm seven and I hear that, I'm going to school and be like, You don't even know what my dad told me. Where's the ████ that ate my muffin? Throw your backpack down like, I'm ready. Yeah, I'm like, my dad said, "F███ this school. F███." Yo, if Tyko was a ████ like me, I would have gotten into fights all day and manipulated the situation and said, "Oh, man, I was about to die though."
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