0:00 And then her boss had hit on her early in the career way ████ back and the settlement was in the millions and she ████ lives ████ great. The back in the boomer days that's how you get the promotion by sucking the boss off. >> [laughter] >> Welcome back to another episode of the careful boys where we talk about hey right now there's this thing where Gen Z just doesn't want to be leaders. Who are they again? Gen Z is I think they're like 30s to late 20s. I'll give you I'll After us. Oh they're after us? So they're not before us. Yeah they're after us. They're younger than us. >> Gen X is after us. >> Oh is directly after us? >> Yeah. So we're millennial so we're like supposed to be Y but we're called millennial. So we're Gen Y. There's Gen X.
0:50 >> So Gen X is before us? Yeah X is before >> Gen Z is after us. Yeah. And then Gen A is Tyga. The younger cats don't want to be leaders. >> Yeah. >> That's what they look like. That's the vibe you get. Yeah they look like ████ They look like they want to just yap yap yap not want to do nothing about it. Yeah. >> So you're in the camp that thinks that they're soft. >> 14 to 29. Yeah they're soft as a ████ >> Millennial is 30 to 40 >> Sorry if you guys are Gen Z but you guys know what I'm talking about. >> [laughter] >> You guys feel me too. They're saying that only 6% of Gen Z aspires to senior leadership roles with many rejecting traditional management due to high burnout stress and poor work-life balance. Instead of rejecting leadership entirely they are adopting quote conscious unbossing prioritizing mental health flexibility and individual expertise over corporate ladder climbing. So I've been in the fitness industry especially in social media for a long time right? So I've seen a lot of
1:42 people go they quit fitness they come back or they quit this thing they're a powerlifter now they're a ████ yoga practitioner or whatever and I've seen a lot of ups and downs. And that specific demographic the Gen Z cuz I know the age groups I'll see them like switch from job to job over and over again. And you know when you have like that one girl that's like oh guys ain't ████ whatever and you clearly you're like oh you're the problem. It's like that. That's funny. [laughter] There's like there's like oh Facebook ████ me over LinkedIn ████ me over YouTube ████ me I'm like oh they all ████ you over huh? Okay. >> They got massive victim mentality for sure. But I've heard I've heard a counter argument that I do think has a little bit of sensibility is that uh Gen Z constantly talks about how the
2:33 conditions that the world was left in like they inherited a objectively s███████ world because of the doings of millennials. Which I thought >> we have no control. >> I thought that was kind of interesting. >> and Gen is boomer. You could probably say that for all the gens right? >> Yeah you can say that but then I thought it was it does have a point where like in terms of how badly inflation and real estate are hitting them it does it is disproportionate. >> We didn't do ████ We didn't do anything. >> One of the One of the things that I saw >> us. >> that was like but I still thought it was >> I think boomers did that. >> Yeah one thing I just saw that I still thought was gay though was they're like but if you look at the boomer generation the average housing price is here and then the income's here right? And then the discrepancy is crazy now. I'm like yeah but all those ████ they just moved. You know what I mean? Like if they if if Vietnam was not the place
3:24 for them they moved to Garden Grove. So you can't like you have to look at the factors and consider everything. You can't be like yo there's a ████ drought in California or whatever and they're like I back in the day used to have water. Go where the water went. >> [laughter] >> Yo yeah you're right. >> what I mean? Like you can't like just stay there and then and expect the environment to morph to what you want. >> that is a good point. >> You got to be adaptable. I will say on specific like ladder climbing kind of like that older mentality of like traditionally getting to this corporate structure go up blah blah blah I do think that that's completely different compared to what it was before on like so many different variables whether it's like now um you know whether it could be things like work from home culture it could be like uh upper management staying in upper management longer cuz you know how to milk the system better so there's less
4:14 room for growth in other departments. It could be you know things like AI or different jobs being like changed to a point where like climbing up the ladder is like infinitely harder than it was before. It could also be things like you know we're already feeling the pains of we're going like yeah we pay all these FICA taxes cuz we pay social security and blah blah blah we're not going to get any of that when we get to retire. What are they feeling? What are their what's their mentality? But at the same time so yeah like maybe the corporate structure was crazy you could work for State Farm for 20 years or whatever and have a cushy job. At the same time you couldn't ████ show your titties back then and make 3 million a month. Now you could just ████ show your titties and make 3 million dollars a month. >> guarantee no more though you know. >> Yeah that's still rare. >> Basically yeah there's there's pros there's there's pros and cons for every generation right? It's like if you think about what we kind of graduated into we graduated into the
5:04 s████████ ████ economy in a long time like right out of college that was when the crash happened. >> Yeah 2009 2010. And it was ████ for like five straight years right after graduating. Yeah that was a bad crash. I didn't notice it though cuz I was dancing the whole time. >> [laughter] >> Sorry y'all. >> You don't notice it when you don't have a home to lose you know what I mean? Yeah for real. But yeah also even like that though like there's there's always going to be new endeavors and new opportunities. And like the boomer generation they couldn't ████ >> [snorts] >> go on TikTok and go oh check it out this is my new fitness routine and they make ████ 100 Gs a year. They could they didn't have that. >> Yeah the opportunities are insane. >> You just got to go out and look. >> Also I feel like there was a there was like a there was something to what it was to be a boss back then like to either be promoted into a position of management
5:55 or to be like a boss versus today it's like everybody's [clears throat] an entrepreneur somehow. Everybody's self-employed everybody made their own business everybody like you know it's like you don't need to like you could be your own boss you could work from home there's so many options now that the idea of like playing the more traditional ladder system makes so little sense when Johnny down the street is his own boss for doing X Y Z whatever the ████ >> Yeah. You know so it's like why why would you play in this thing that you've maybe seen in older movies versus just doing what everybody else is doing? Does it make them like more softer like less leadership driven or is it just make them play the game accustomed to their times which >> Well I see them if they started their own thing and they're entrepreneurs I see them as being leaders. Well everybody starts their own thing as an entrepreneur it doesn't mean they're all successful. Then they're not leaders.
6:45 Everyone's What do you mean everyone starts it? Everybody nowadays is like their own self-entrepreneur self like more people trying to be influencers today than they were you know than they're trying to be like engineers right? Like everybody's trying to go like the self-employment route or like look up some stuff on social media to become your own business this and blah blah blah. So everybody like starts their own business and do does whatever nowadays. I just think the what it was how difficult it was to be a boss back then is so different from what people consider being a boss today as long as you're a boss in your own ████ >> have flipped the script on those ████ I think it's actually no no it I think it's actually harder to be a boss now cuz back then those bosses they could they would call that a toxic environment right? Like back then it's okay to tell your employees to shut the ████ up. But these days you got to These days if you want to If you want to be a boss you got to be sued you got to be you got to like
7:35 oh hear them make sure they're heard and ████ you got to have mental health days and all this ████ ████ So I'm like I it's way it's actually way harder on both ends but you just got to make it still work. I think subculture-wise though when you compare like LA to here it's a freaking stark difference in terms of like Gen Z because it it's like it got normalized in ████ pop culture to just make fun of people with normal jobs. And I think that's a very ████ hip-hop-centric thing. And I it ████ sucks. But then you come out here and there's kids working normal jobs everywhere. In LA it's only like old tired like immigrants you know what I mean? Like when you really look at who's working and the kids here are like they seem really excited to do their job like they're actually very personable and very it feels more like all-American like oh this is cool like
8:25 they're they're like kind of finding themselves in these positions. But then back in LA you get made fun of for just working at like at Ralph's or some ████ >> like a rite of passage over here. Like oh you like when you're a kid in high school yeah you work at Raising Cane's and then you go do whatever. >> Yeah I feel like there's a lot of pressure back in like in big cities to not have a loser job which ████ sucks you know. >> Like I employ a lot of Gen Z and the biggest difference from my generation working at like restaurants and ████ is that a lot of them have no intention of being promoted. Like they'll get they're like some solid [snorts] workers and we're like do you want a promotion? Do you want to and they're like I don't want more responsibility. And the responsibility is not that big. It's like maybe you have a set of keys now so you open up the store and then now you just have to keep an eye out for your teammates that you're already doing and
9:16 then think ahead for them and tell them okay now you now this is done do this or just that's all it is. It's just one little layer of responsibility that you're already doing cuz they'll give advice to their co-workers all the time. But they don't want the title and the responsibility because now there's pressure of like Oh yeah there's more expectation. And then I think there's they're more smarter on how they balance time. And I say smarter because like I think our generation was just like drinking the Kool-Aid of go go go get promoted get to the top. But then now they kind of factor in like well I want to balance and do these three days off and play here. And I'm like I didn't even think like that. I just did I was told and then I was just told to like work hard and don't question it and everyone's supposed to work hard and get promotions. You're supposed to want promotions. But then there's kind of a scam behind that, too, because if you can balance your life out without
10:06 the extra added pressure, why do it? Like if you don't have to, right? So, like if you don't have to be a six-figure earner because you like your lifestyle with a 50K lifestyle and you don't have to work seven days a week, you can maybe work three days a week, why not? And I think they have that mentality and I'm like, "Dude, I wish I had that kind of mentality when I was their age." There's also a funny threshold thing cuz like Aris was the one who showed me this, but like at his job uh he doesn't want to promote because the level above him is non-union. Oh, there's that, yeah. Like the corporate corporate games and Exactly. So, some people's promotion in order to get to the job they really want, they have to first pass this gauntlet of non-protected jobs and then get to the thing. So, it's almost not worth it, you know? And I think people
10:56 are wise, too, to like know in corporate struct like world, they they give you titles, but it doesn't actually pay more. Sometimes you get more responsibility, but like >> got to deal with other people's ████ >> Yeah, but it's for people to feel proud about their title and it's really pointless to >> leave. Yeah, it's a scam. [laughter] And I think they know that, dude. Like it's people are catching on to the scam of how businesses manipulate certain like deals to get more out of it and I'm like, "Good for them." It's It sucks when it's like I'm treated like Walmart when I don't act like Walmart, but I I think it's always going to be this push push on each side and then like try to figure out how to get the most out of it. >> Yeah. But yeah, you're right about the you can make infinitely more money being an employee that sues your boss than being [laughter] the boss. My friend's ████ rich off that ████ Damn. Suing
11:46 their boss? Yeah. She had a She got a job She got recruited to work for like a medical malpractice sales. And then her boss had hit on her early in their career, way ████ back. She saved the receipts. Once things got a little unfavorable at work, she's like, "Okay, well then we'll come out with this." And the settlement was in the millions and she ████ lives ████ great. Has a whole house in ████ I don't want to put her out too hard, but she doesn't need to work now. See, back in the boomer days, that's how you get the promotion by sucking the boss off. >> [laughter] >> But that's ████ nuts that like the crazy thing that I didn't think about until she told me her story was that you could You don't have to ████ sue right away. You could just save it. And once things are not going well, you can be like, "Oh, look at this. What's
12:36 that?" >> ████ >> Yeah. So, I mean, there's a lot of protections as an employee from being fired. That would be one of them. But as a boss, like you got to deal with that ████ You don't know what kind of receipts people are holding on to. Bro, yeah. I mean, of course that's misconduct. You shouldn't do it. But I think like >> Yeah, most bosses I don't think they're like hitting Then like the sad thing is that if that boss gets hit, so does every other boss that was fully within line of like decency. You know, like all the bosses die basically cuz the company dies. Yeah, it's tough, man, cuz I'm like, "How do you get all of the people together and work as a team when the culture now is all about I got to get mine?" Cuz I think there was a time when maybe everyone was like maybe more honorable. Yeah, maybe they might have been all like more team team driven. Yeah, but like I was looking
13:26 into buying this one company, right? And then it was it was this old boomer ass like German guy. Like he he moved he immigrated to the States. And then like um I saw like that it just felt like a wholesome company where everybody was family. And then I think we try to model ourselves, but they've been friends for like decades. I'm talking like you go into this place and it feels like the 1960s. And like still the same equipment, everything. And then they're selling this company, they're ready to retire. And then like I was like, "So, this is a success story of those old school companies with integrity. It's a small business. Everyone looks out for each other." He He told me like he paid for medical ████ that his employees went through. That was not even during work. Like they got into an accident outside of work,
14:16 right? Did they have any Gen Z workers in there? All boomers. Well, like older people over 50. No one under 50. And then I was thinking like, "Okay, when boomers talking about be loyal to the company, all that, they're talking about that company. They're not talking about Amazon. They're not talking about the ████ that we we grew up around and then it's like they're scamming." Yeah.
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