0:00 Welcome back to another episode of Careful Boys, we have Bonos back with us today. [cheering] Since you guys were talking so much earlier before the camera started about uh you being a creamy Chinese skin tone, uh I wanted to ask, do you guys think that like at least growing up in the '90s, there was such a I guess very severe emphasis on lightkinned Asian was like better. >> 100%. Is that still applied to like today? Do you think >> that blew my mind about how Asians cared about skin? >> Because you know, Filipinos have so many like >> I didn't know that. >> Skin soaps and they're always trying to be like >> the darker you are, the more it's like you're probably like a lowly villager, a laborer. >> So like I think the women in my family probably all did that. But like they
0:50 never really said that to the boys cuz all the boys are freaking dark as >> Oh yeah. I mean, it doesn't matter. But I don't know like if that's just my family, but no one really cared. >> Does that apply for Japanese? Cuz you know, Japanese people look kind of cool when they're tan. >> I So I haven't even heard it in the culture cuz I think guys are allowed to be dark. >> Ah, cool. >> So I don't know. But all the women are light, you know what I mean? Unless it's a deliberate style. >> They're white face. White face with black teeth. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know the style of guar? They go to tanning salons so they could be as dark as possible and they all want to look like um Jersey Shore girls. >> What? Who is this? >> Guaru. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you do you like that style?
1:40 >> Joe, do you like [laughter] that? >> If I'm into clowns. >> No, that's very intense makeup. >> Yeah. you know, from the Chinese culture though. I remember cuz I'm pretty ████ Chinese cuz you know, like you know how my mom is, right? So like >> Chinese. >> So even though like I grew up here like I I went to ESL like for ████ first grade cuz I'm just so comfortable in the Chinese culture cuz my mom ████ banged it into me. >> Um I remember first learning about like black and white struggles in America and I was like man ████ that ████ I don't got time for that ████ We got black and white struggles in Chinese culture. Cuz you know in Chinese culture it's the same ████ You already have like light the light skin and the dark skin and you have your own internal like racism. The the dark skin are the laborers. No one wants to be that. That's blue collar. You want to be white skin because that means you work in a skyscraper or
2:31 something and you own some ████ And so >> so like if [laughter] you're if they think you're a dirty villager, right? Because this color they're going to treat you like ████ >> So there's you can't be like a CEO or something. No, because there's dark ass freaking like bosses in Japan. Oh, no. Like in the in Chinese or at least like Taiwanese culture like uh like let's say you could be a dark-skinned CEO in a ████ suit. A taxi driver is just going to drive RIGHT PAST YOU CUZ [laughter] NOT GOING TO TIP GOOD. OH, this guy's poor. This guy's pretending to be a CEO. But then you could be a [laughter] >> pretending to be a CEO >> just to get a taxi. >> If you're light-skinned, they're like, oh, sir, come in. Come in. Come in. Come in. is the best taxi service ever. >> So like, >> okay. Okay. >> If if let's say your family didn't teach you this ████ right? Is it enough in your guys's culture where if you watch
3:23 the content on TV shows, movies, all that, it would be there and everyone will get it. >> Like nollas, >> same ████ All the maids are dark >> and then everyone that's like the stars are white presenting. >> It's like that. Everyone >> watching nollas. No, you know, as a No, you grew up in California like channel 52 or like Telmundo >> the channel. Okay. >> Yeah, cuz you're trying to look for the hot Latina Latina booty >> 52. So that's international channel. >> I guess that's the biggest difference for me is like >> um I haven't I don't think that exists in Japanese culture. No. >> How about Japanese American? Not Not that either, huh? >> No. Look at all the ████ Hawaii Japanese are brown as hell. >> I think it's way more. It's tanning is more in now though. I think it's changed
4:13 a little bit. >> So, I think that mentality still sticks historically, but I think it's changing now. >> Yeah, I think so, too. I don't think it's as it's not as connected to being like lesser or like lower class anymore. >> Did Did you have that growing up with like uh I guess like Asian girls? Did Did Was that ever a conversation thing of you guys were trying to be lighter? >> I was always trying to be darker. Um, but my family, like my aunts, my mom, like everyone would always, you know, when they're driving, they wear their freaking sleeves and the hat, the visor, and you know, they would always tell you, "Oh, too dark. You're getting too dark." You know, and I always be like, "Thank you. That's so nice. That's so nice." >> Young girls in Arcadia High were obsessed with getting lighter or being light or staying light. >> I'm sure there were. I just That wasn't my experience personally. >> Yeah. My mom's ████ she has gloves that go past her elbows.
5:04 >> Yeah. Yeah. Wow. >> Like dinner dinner dinner gloves. >> When she's driving, she has these ████ gloves that go up here. She has a uh >> Oh, yeah. The Chinese visors. >> Yes. >> Like the paper on the window right on the side of the window. >> Visor. She has like this one and another. Like she'll have like sunglasses and then the visor. >> Yes. My grandma I have a picture of my grandma with an umbrella and a a hat with an umbrella. A mini umbrella on it. [laughter] >> Shut the ████ up. That's like a ████ KP [laughter] sketch or something. >> Okay, so >> double that's so >> I'm going to find it. >> So like Japanese people look at that and they ████ crack up, right? Cuz they don't like if you go to Japan, no one's wearing that crazy ████ but they still stay light, right? But like in the Philippines, they don't have that either. They don't look ridiculous. Like that's that's some Chinese ████
5:55 >> Yeah, it's funny. Philippines [laughter] they do this thing where I mean they have so many creams and lot that's what they use >> soaps but then like when you look at popular media in the Philippines it's very obvious that all the A-list stars are mad light-kinned >> yeah I mean India is like that too a lot of Asian countries are like that >> yeah it's very obvious the beauty >> stand more subtle maybe cuz like you know how like um I think Chinese are pretty like upfront like they'll tell you straight up like you ugly dirty villager >> oh my god you know [laughter] >> or in in a Filipino. You said Filipino families are straight up, right? They'll be like, "Yo, I saw D." >> Yeah, they're straight up. Oh, yeah. >> Maybe there's a subtle thing that goes over my head for Japanese that I'm just like, I don't know. But for like I know for sure for men, we don't we get a pass. >> Like there's no tan K-pop stars. Everyone looks
6:45 >> Everyone's very light. >> Yeah. Light. Oh, but there are tan Japanese idols. Oh, really? Oh. >> Oh. But there are [laughter] >> But not women though. Mr. Miyagi is 10. So, but Mr. Miyagi is a dirty villager. >> What? He is an icon. >> He is. Right. See, I told you. I told I said he's a high value man. They didn't believe me. >> What do you mean? >> See, he's a high value man. >> Mr. Freaking Miyagi. >> Trying to start his own video. We were trying to say what is the most ideal man for a woman and then he created his own tangent. He opened a new tab in the browser and he says, "No, high value man." You're like, "No, we're talking about this though. >> New tab." [laughter] >> Okay. >> If you were his age, >> I definitely needed all the contact. >> But if you were his age, though, >> that doesn't change it, Joe. >> It does. >> No, it doesn't. [laughter] >> I I' I'd want to marry him.
7:36 >> Oh, you would? If I was his age. >> Okay. >> Okay. [laughter] >> He's not gay, though. >> But I'm saying if I was a woman. >> Okay. All right. >> You were a woman. >> Age and a woman. >> Okay. A lot would have to change. The funny thing though is do you think it's gone because it's generationally getting extinct? Cuz you know the idea of like oh you're too dark that's ugly. That's like a generation above, right? That's like our parents were acting like that. >> And then we the only reason we felt like that is just because we picked it up from them. There's no other like no one ever no one else ever made me feel that dark was like bad >> versus other Filipino people. >> I had the uh immediate opposite since I was a kid cuz you know my mom would be like, "Oh, you want to like you want to be covered up and be all light skin." whatever. I'm like, "What the ████ You look like you never even seen the sun." Cuz all my friends like they played outside or if you like get close to Huntington Beach, like even white people, the ones that look healthy are
8:27 the tan ones, >> not the one that all ████ pasty looking or whatever. [laughter] >> Remember uh see-through. >> It's fine if you're pasty. >> You guys know who Sato is? >> Yeah, of course. >> So, so she was um she she made this joke about Well, it's not not joke, but her mom was like, "Why do you like to get tan so much?" and she goes, "Oh, you know, I think it looks great on my skin or whatever." She goes, "Americans just all want to look like they're going on vacation all day." So, her mind didn't go straight into like, "You dark ████ don't look like a dirty villager." It was straight up like, "Oh, Americans want to act like they're so rich that they're always on vacation and getting the sun, >> going to the beach." >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. She wasn't telling her daughter, >> it's affluent. >> Yeah. Like, she's like, "Oh, Americans do things so differently." It wasn't like you what are you doing to your skin like don't ████ be dark ████ you know it's that low class like she didn't
9:18 get that. So and then she has parents from Japan right? So that was my I was trying to think of like a girl example and then she's tan and she goes to the tanning like yeah she likes to be tan so I was like oh ████ that's yeah that's that's different. I I don't know if if there's a actual thing the way that like the rest of Asians has I know we have it but it's not the same. I think there's you can tell the difference though between a person who tans and a person who's tan. >> You know what I mean? >> Like a farmer's tan. >> Yes. You could tell you could tell that you're tanning for looks or lifestyle and then some people are just locked in. [laughter] You know what I mean? Like your default shade is just lower. And I think like I'm kind of glad that we don't have that anymore because I feel like it didn't apply to Asian-American life. >> No. It's It's a very Asian hierarchy thing from way back and way over there and they brought it here and now they
10:10 made like kids who grew up with that be like, "Why is that a big deal?" >> Yeah. You're not going to have a Uber that cancels on you just cuz you're darker. >> Well, I just never I never understood it myself because like I I had times where I was super dark cuz I can get dark, baby. And like when I get that dark, other Filipino people would be like, "Bro, you're dark." Like it's a punchline. And I'm like, "What's the so like Yeah. So what? But then like they expect me to like feel like a ████ Yeah. Yeah. You got me. I'm dark. Yeah. But I'm like it doesn't >> UCLA there's all those ████ ████ laying on the grass trying to get tan. [laughter] >> But if you go to any of those colleges in Taiwan, you'll never find a single ████ trying >> Why ████ bar? >> Chicks. [laughter] >> Cuz they're chicks. >> Keep going. >> I'm done. [laughter]
11:00 >> But you know what I'm talking about. And it's like, yeah, they're they're in their bikinis tanning in between class cuz they want to be tanned. >> You're talking about like outside of Royce Hall >> class. They're in bikinis. >> No, >> that doesn't make them ████ by the way. I'm just asking. >> I'm just calling them ████ cuz I wish they were. But they're just being there just laying there just getting tan. And that's like a such a normal American thing. But that would blow like a Taiwanese brain cuz they're trying to be covered up. >> That's because if white people go in the sun, they could be in there for 8 hours and still not tan. Whereas like Asians go in, you'll be there for 30 minutes and all of a sudden you're brown. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So nice. >> But you know, uh uh uh so in Hawaii there's hell of Filipinos, right? >> And um all the time the Filipino aunties >> complete strangers would make their way across Ross or anywhere just to tell Hannah how awesome her skin is.
11:51 >> A wow. So, I think it's like a very big thing maybe in like Filipino culture or like whatever where like like they're just like how do you get your skin like that? Like it's so white. It's [laughter] so Yeah. >> Like a lot of Asians don't know that gingers and certain white people can't tan. They think they think they just have a good routine. >> What? >> Oh, wait. You didn't know that white people can't tan? >> No. I didn't know people didn't know that white people can't tan. >> Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. White. No. No. There's [laughter] hell of people that know that don't know that white people can't tan. >> What? >> Yeah. Like they'll be like like my friend's um auntie or grandma would be like, "Oh, honey, you need more sun." And then she she's she's Hawaiian, right? So she's like she she's like she doesn't know. >> She's she just thinks like, "Oh, this girl's indoor all days. That's why."
12:41 >> Okay. She thinks like her lifestyle. Yeah. She's like unhealthy. >> She goes, "Girl, you need a healthy olive skin. Like you need to get some sun, you know." So there's lit there's so many people that have no ████ idea and I was like oh wow >> it's really funny but yeah Filipinos they love lightkinn stuff that's I think in in the Philippines that's I think it's still big the same way like Korean skincare is like highly like that industry is crazy right they're they're the same way a little bit but Philippines even more so because so many of them are like they start out mad dark >> oh yeah >> and they're probably being treated differently out there you >> but I think Filipinos have such a diverse Look like you could get it could be like they could look like a Chinese guy. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. >> Or like a straight up like island man. >> Yeah. It's like a Puerto Rican to Chinese spectrum. >> Yeah. Or Indian [laughter] >> like me.
13:32 >> That's true. Yeah. Well, colorists,
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