0:00 [Music] and welcome back to an Illusionist episode of the careful boys I don't know that's a stupid one and today we're going part two we're getting to know Savio Joseph over here every call you Savvy sometimes yeah I'm trying to call you Savvy I want to be in I want to be Savvy about it are you going to come up with a magician name like something like the mysterious or like the grand something or you know how they have the name like old school like what was your childhood Crush Savage no like the the the mysterious mysterious War how are you no I thought about it I did love my name Savio is that the new school style though people just are like that's their they just have their name yeah okay I think so I mean cuz it's like also if you have a different name like might be hard to find you or unless you got like really famous and then that that's your cuz
0:50 Chris Angel basically I mean I don't think Chris Angel's name is Chris Angel or I hope it's not spell Chris like that c r i SS I hope it's not unless his mom was like 14 when he when she gave birth Savvy Sav Sav santacos yeah there you go sarin tacos S tacos so I guess tacos so people do change their name like if it's not sexy enough yeah it's a stage name like yeah that's I think that guy piff was that guy piff was smart cuz he's just like a white dude so he's like might as well like just do something different yeah or else it could have been like John Jacob or something you already have a cool name you don't even that much your name is pretty cool else has ever met one of those right no I never met one of those nah dude but PFF got lucky though cuz like that could have went really bad cuz like the whole cuz you guys have seen piff he's like a m but I know I've seen
1:40 the billboard I saw him on Panella or something or something I saw him on something Pella is where he blew up like you religiously watch P I love penella I'm a huge fan we should go to pentella show we have been to penella show we did but I want to go again do it do it great dialogue guys yeah I mean well hopefully my segment you guys can come you know and and see if absolutely wait where where do you have do you have like a like a like a kind of tour list of like or like where we can go and follow you or whatever yeah man just my Instagram my website everywhere what's the website tell tell tell www. saavy joseph.com Savvy Joseph Sab I say Vio nailed it Sav so we want to know more ways that how you like abuse your powers abuse my Powers that's a so in school uh I would just ask the prop to think about the answers for the test and then I just go cool got it
2:31 God just write it down yeah but we believe you right now so cool n just you know what uh I think the best way was just like just to uh meet people I think I just like I in college I would just go to parties and just do magic tricks like that was my easiest way to meet people you get a lot a lot of chicks are very impressed with your you know you know what the thing is I would try not to use magic to like like start friendships and things like that cuz I'm like Oho like I don't want you to think that I'm just the magician like the magic guy like you know yeah but you ever used it to crush P what was that you ever used to crush Plus no no I'm not actually I you get friends who are like Crush dick I mean we're open here yeah whatever you get any of your buddies who are like I'm trying to talk to this girl can you show her some ████ magic tricks I'm trying to talk to this girl I'm trying to ████ know my number into her phone yeah I'm always playing Wiman I'm like Yo cool got it boom there you
3:22 go SI but what if they end up liking you and then they're like come on Savio stop steing all the girls and ████ happens no it's a side effect I'm sorry I can't do it well you smoke bomb out of there dude smoke bomb anyone ever they want you more then when did you learn that slight of hand watch stealing thing I learned that when I was young it was hard to this is actually really easy to steal like these watches cuz with apple watches you only need to go with like one one finger and you can come you can pop it right off what can you do that again demonstr can you demonstrate on his so so when you stealing so when you steal something like a watch you're usually doing it with um um so I wouldn't tell you I'm going to steal it but I would essentially look and then I would do it in the context of a different trick so i' be doing something else but I would get you used to the idea of me like holding you know and like so yeah so like that way this doesn't feel weird like when I'm doing this you know what I mean but like because I'm explaining it
4:12 I'm going to tell you but like if you can get your thumb in here this can come off with one that's so smooth so these do my bra do my bra that was a little harder um so these these straps are easy to pull up yeah but but then but then you do something else so they don't feel it like your brain can't process a lot of information at once so if you're doing something exactly so if you're so you overload the brain misdirection exactly so like can I ask you a question you don't have to answer cuz it's part of your trick but when he told me that the deck was going to disappear right so the minute you say that that cues me to feel the deck yes has that deck already been gone from my hands and it's already been replaced by probably magic magic Bud yeah he's not telling magic bud it's one of those like I will say this like in Magic there's always like so many things happening like it's hard for the brain to process everything all at once misdirection is a huge part of it you probably swwa EA a donut I know you
5:03 probably but also the donuts we're so excited that was so easy we're so excited that it's also like what are we even focusing on we're on a height yeah which is why magic in person is very different than on like camera because like in person like you're not like in on camera it's just one frame so you can see literally everything in that frame versus in person like again your brain can't process everything happening at once you know like I could literally be standing over there and jumping here and you know you wouldn't be able to process all of it at once so it's becomes a little easier for me to navigate that space But you do it in a different way where I think even if people Ed the YouTube little tricks of like 0.1.5 speed I don't think they're going to see what you were doing cuz I was right back here brother yeah you were looking behind us he was doing something else you were doing the card you were changing the cards right in front of us I know that's like proba easy mode for you I was like what the ████ is going on
5:53 these like your actual like signature tricks that like only you do these in this way like these specific on I would say bar pulled it out look at this look see see seven boom boom seven yeah very slow very slow but yeah signature uh in a way yes like there's a lot of stuff I love doing but I'm more proud of like the stage stuff that I do cuz it takes more like um you get more uh creativity with like oh you got a stage you got lights you got music you got and you can C curate like a a Cool vibe and you can get like um a real Ambiance with the trick you know and and I've been playing around with that so they have more signature stuff on stage I would say but yeah these stuff I love doing all the time you know whenever I got a chance I'm like boom let's let's try this out and make it happen let's uh just to get slightly more in depth about your your vision and stuff like that what's like a dream scenario for you or whether it be like goalwise or show wise
6:43 Now You See Me three Now You See Me four skip three skip three they're working on three right now oh are they's about n 2 is hella cheesy I thought n all the N was W they drugged everyone up yeah I mean sorry I did like a kid well no cuz I'll tell you why it's whack they don't like it doesn't make sense why they did it it doesn't make any ████ sense there's no magic to it like you can't like it's you can't like I think in number one they exhausted all the cool magic stuff they can kind of explore and then number two it's like with media or TV you always got to one up it it's like if you're going to one up that it's like you got to go some crazy stuff oh yeah now you're going like Fast and Furious level exactly you're on fast 10 you're like what is happen and this is a weird weird example but I used to watch a show called 24 where ████ Keith of s was killing terrorist all day and there was an episode where he gets stuck in the top of the building and like the whole FBI is in the building right and I'm like how the ████ is Jack B going to get out
7:33 of this one and they just cut to him in the parking lot and I'm like nope we ████ sold out that's what Now You See Me does and it D me no dude they're getting fris and then they throw cards oh my God they're flying so stupid CGI cards everywhere that's the wor on I mean again it's also like we're so used to seeing these crazy like you see Marvel and you see like the Avengers and then you're going to go watch a movie like this it has to somehow you know live up to a certain level of hype you know we can't just be like oh we're just going to do car tricks and that's it it's like no the car's got to be flying and this got to happen so they got to blend a little bit of realism with more CGI all that kind of stuff I would say number one had more real stuff like there's a lot of stuff in number one that was like oh that's actually real like you can actually do that you know um kind of like how you guys had fron like they had cool Consultants behind the scenes who just you know helped design the magic on the show um context has the magician that was uh on ABDC
8:24 helping out these guys do better because their dances were whatever so there's a lot of magic Consultants who work behind the scenes and actually Blain his team is really cool like the guys who work behind him he just like I mean he has unlimited resources he' be like yo you're sick come work on my team like and it's just like he'll get like some of the craziest minds and again going back to what I was saying earlier some of these guys are the people you'll never hear of because like they're just so skilled like they've just been practicing it home for 20 years and this is all they know and like they don't have like a social media presence so like you go get them like you're going to have the craziest talent behind the scenes but they don't want the the the the the the glamour of it all they just kind of want to help create some un resource basically so do they even do like birthday parties or they just do it for fun they're just hobbyists so it's kind of like the dancer standing behind like the star person like you got Whitney Houston out there and then you got these dancers nobody knows her name exactly exactly yeah well I mean kind of that kind of goes back to what you were
9:14 saying earlier where you said like how the harder part is actually creating the business behind the magic and then but then you have a lot of people that you knew that kind of dropped out or they just yeah hey what's up guys just in case you have seen some of these lovely pieces on some of our gentleman here these awesome Jade pendants or you may have seen the recent JK Adventure where we went to Jade Jewelers just remember that the sale is on now if you want to visit the J jewel. you can even find some of the stuff that our guys have had and way way more the selection is huge so make sure to visit the J Jewelers and check out what they've got check it out let's go I mean that's what I was saying earlier there's like these four cuz right now if you wanted to let's say for the next 6 months you're like look I'm going to be a magician you can this fool you can learn you can you know pay somebody to teach you train and then like put together a show that's like 30 minutes
10:05 and you can start doing a 30- minute show and get paid for you can make 500 bucks 1,000 bucks whatever you know whatever the entry point is and you keep getting paid for it but to get to that next level you got to start creating your own stuff and the routine is like and like I said it doesn't mean Reinventing the wheel it's like how do you take ideas and flesh it together and make something new like the god Talent stuff that I did it was all original to me but it was like based off of ideas that we had from like oh there's this plot that I liked oh I liked when like my first first plot was something with money and disappearing and all the stuff and I was like cool that's a cool plot and then it's going to pair with my story really well cool let's match that together second act was like cool I want to throw something in the air and catch it oh there's something that I can do oh but they do it with cards let me do it with money like that's a cool Twist on an old classic and then you build off of it so that part is a lot harder to do you know and that that takes a lot more time and writing and figuring things out and testing and like I said there's no comedy clip to go test like you got to just do it at your gig so how it works
10:55 is like you you you know you work your 45 or 60 or whatever and then what people usually do is they'll go to a show and they'll do like the first 15 20 that's like solid material CU you want to start strong and then in the middle you'll throw in something new cuz it's like even if it falls you can pick it back up and then close strong so it's slow because then you try something new in the middle and you're like ah it didn't really work and you got to wait till the next show to to to put something else in you know and so and again if you're if you're booked for some highend corporate gig like you don't want to that's not when you want to test you know like do you test this here like does it make sense or do you make it work you know so you got to find that pocket how do you practice at home like it depends on what it's it's very project oriented now like if I'm working towards a project I'm like cool this is coming up I got to work on this act or I'm like writing a new show or something like that then I'll work on stuff often um in a day it depends like I might wake up and just for you know an hour or two I'm just working on something or trying
11:46 some new new technique or something and there's days where I'm just doing nothing but like when I was younger like in high school I used to get things taken away all the time like I had a deck of cards in my head literally 24/7 like I'd be holding cards all the time but that's how you get better at like moving cards and dealing with c cards and shuffling and and doing all these cool fancy cuts and stuff like that um but like the teachers would take it away all the time so like these magic Masters that you know right like how do one find one like a Kung Fu Master like it's like there's a legend of this like dude he's like the seventh grandson of Houdini he's kept it in the family and then you're like I want to learn from you do they have that it's tough yeah yeah 100% yeah but it's it's it's hard to find it's word of mouth it's like if you know this person who knows that person who knows that guy who's like really good it used to be big with um cheating techniques because like there used to be a lot of guys underground that like they
12:36 didn't want to be known because they wanted to be like the you know they they'd hire him for a house game and like he can deal cards in any any man you you can deal to for like poker games yeah but those guys don't want to be known like yeah cuz they're working with the mob or whatever H money anyway yeah so so those kind of guys but those guys got have like like impeccable technique because they can't get caught this is not a magic trick this is cu you die you die exactly cuz if you mess with people's money especially M money like that's it so these guys would be very lowkey like you you it'd be very hard to find them but you can you know there Wast that's like white hat black hat kind of hackers right and I heard a couple of them had to die for them to learn not to wear magician costumes while they're sitting at they got a top pad and ████ cuz they didn't know for a a couple of times they're like s for those who didn't know yeah so like is the Dark Side of magic like guys that are like pickpocketing
13:27 and theves Europe is big like techniques like with pickpocketing like um it could be like you're standing next to me and like I bump your shoulder and while I'm bumping you like your body's reacting to the fact that you just got nudged but you can't feel that I pulled the phone out of your pocket that happens all the time and they work in teams so like it might be like they bump boom they take the phone and they hand it off to someone so there's never one person who's like even if they caught you they be like what you can search me I got nothing there's nothing on here it's already handed off to like five people it's kind of like you seen focus focus focus so Focus they had a pickpocket as the consultant on the show so like they actually had really accurate descriptions of like what would take place and like after he consulted they send him to jail they send him to jail right away no he's a good thief he's a good dude I saw imic trick somebody's walking around in Thailand they got their phone right and a guy drives up on a dirt bike and just snatches their phone away I didn't think it was a very good trick I hope find made disappear you ever have you ever like when you
14:17 were dating somebody have they ever accused you of gaslighting you put that thought on my mind like you know cuz even though you're not doing it it like I feel like that's someone's go-to if they're argu with you yeah I mean it's definitely happened uh I also get people who like like you know be like no don't like don't hypnotize me I'm like no no it doesn't it doesn't hypnotize me hypnotize me it doesn't work that way though I'm like I'm like no no it doesn't you got to be willing it's got to be something like I think this where media makes it seem like I can't just walk up to you be like oh you're sleepy doesn't work that you don't carry a pocket watch dle you know so it takes some time can you wake him back up he's asleep he's dead asleep he thinks he's a chicken now back Can you spot so like my mom loves ████ fortune tellers and ████ like
15:07 that she got all these homies that do all this weird ████ if you're sitting in the room with them could you spot like how they're pulling these tricks off I'll just say this most of us shop at the same attic shops you know what I mean like it's it's that like if there was a different if there was a different context around the work that I do I could easily say I'm a fortune teller I'm true or you're wearing a different outfit with a different accent exactly you know and like like I've studied some of the stuff with you know palm reading or cards like there's things that you can learn and it's just like it's unfortunate that like you know people do that and then they they run with it and a lot of times there the people that are like um uh like vulnerable that taking get taken advantage of so it would be like someone's passed away and they' be like I'm going to go see like a a psychic or a medium to see if I can connect with my loved one you know and it's just like you know so it's just like it it's uh unfortunately I don't believe in I'm not
15:57 I'm not a fan of those those things but it's because I'm like I know what's happening like I know what's going on it is context he could have just said think of a person that died recently that you want to talk to and then just same thing if you ever need money I'll link you up to my mom you probably pull like 100 she'll give it to you willingly too damn so there's still like retail shops that's just all magic stuff it's a lot less now for sure just because uh a lot a lot of guys have got online so there's a lot of onl e-commerce magic shop eCommerce and there's couple guys who got really wealthy off of that too because there's people who want magic actually that the whole Magic industry really is is is uh afloat especially the e-commerce world because of uh like amateur magicians I would say because they buy everything so like a new trick comes out and they like oh cuz they think that that is the thing that will make them the next you know whatever or like oh that's going to be the but but
16:47 then you fail to realize like no it's actually about the performance about your persona how you are perceived and all this The Branding and all that stuff like again goes back to that thing of like the the technique versus the business like you know what do you want so a lot of you know amate guys will buy tons of magic tricks and it'll be like oh this was 30 bucks that's 40 it's like hundreds of dollars of magic you know and then that's the entire industry is built off of that really I bought a magic trick last year yeah what you get uh the uh the pole thing where you like press the button and then a giant like oh yes so that that's funny you bring that up cuz that was like a just a regular magic trick and then somewhere like in the the span of like Co like someone uh made a video with that and like made it a product like in it got drop got drop Shi everywhere it was oh my goodness it was everywhere and I was like what is going on I wouldn't have seen that coming man that no that thing is hella dangerous too because like the
17:37 oral myself on it yeah so the original ones were made out of like um like a metallic kind of thing and so if you if you do it in a weird way and you shoot it it'll literally go and hit your like you know it's very dangerous it's strong it's like really fast like legit cut my thumb yeah what was it used for we were trying to see if it made sense in a dance show oh and then after I cut myself I was like I'm not going to piss this anymore no see you got the should have got the plastic one that would that would work I'm only real hardcore only metallic only metallic OG ████ you know but yeah there's also like magic conventions and stuff like that we can go to like it's like I think ComicCon but for magicians so like there'll be like magicians from all over the world everything's just disappearing magic bu running everywhere how does it how does it feel I don't know if you ever been in this situation but I think it would be really funny if you were just at a party and a guy was like you guys want to see some magic oh
18:27 and you you just have to like stand there just watch black and like my friend will be like oh yeah I'm like I'll just do Myer because like you know there's got to be there's a lot of magic dorks out there that are kind of like just trying to use it as a you know for me man like it's so weird like I'm such a like I I I like to stay in my Lane I don't like you know rubbing heads with people I'm just like dude do your thing you know I hope wishing you success just let it happen I'm confrontational bro magic battles would probably help out with the industry it was like magic magic magic off or something I don't know I don't know who named that but uh off probably did that's why I didn't stick yeah but they would just like magicians who would like they' get the same props and they have to go in a and build an act with the same props and so like it'd be like a magic off because it's like they only have a notebook a
19:18 laptop and did you enjoy that it was cool it was cool yeah can you tell like you know like Fighters like they see cauliflower a oh that guy's a fighter right can you tell like walking into a mall you're like oh that guy does magic that guy does no way I wish do you have like a a coveted trick that's like really hard for you that you're like I need to get that someday um they're not really because like I think it those kind of things like it's it's just a lack of resources like you know like once those resources come you're like cool like we can make that work I mean it would be cool to like one day make like I don't know a train disappear that' be kind of cool but I don't do like big illusions but I used to when I was younger like I used to do some like I had like a cage with dancers and stuff like which were just my friends who I just paid and they're just like all right cool you know like and they would come and like the girls
20:09 would would do all the stuff and then put the fire in the cave and move it and then I'd up here but the weird thing is I remember when when I was 16 I did my first theater show I had that that was my opening act it was like the girls come they dance and then they do the whole thing and then um and they pull the thing and I appear out of the fire and I was like people like wow really cool in the middle of that show same show I put a live camera and I did a car trick people lost their mind and I was like who like that illusion cost me so much money this card this deck of cards cost me five bucks down the street I was like what what about it and then I started to realize this is also I guess answering an earlier question you guys had of like why did I do the more mind R mic stuff I started to realize like something about Illusions like people will see it they'll enjoy it and they'll still go oh like there's probably a door somewhere you know what I mean or a mirror or something they're like probably ah there there's smoke maybe he was under but it's still like oh I don't know how he did it but there's probably
20:59 something but when you do a car trck something so like we've held this before like that's not possible like I saw the cars I've held cars before I know it's not if it's in their hand exactly so it's like that's why I like doing things in people's hands and like away from me and and a little different so that from that point on I kind of stopped doing losion CU I was like I don't know if this is the thing and it's expensive when you're doing magic like somewhere you said you sometimes you're around drunk guys or something has anyone ever just like ████ fly dude ████ fly right now ████ you get hecklers that bad I've had the crazy like I I I remember one time I was performing and I had someone just knock the cards out of my hand and it was like we was out I was like okay was this in Bramton Bramton you know but it was just like dude people are weird like I don't know that's so weird how Rec from that if someone slaps the cards out start flying Cur them yo honestly
21:49 like you just figure out you figure out like a pivot you're just like cool your card is now mixed up on the ground somewhere what if I can find your card now would that' be good then people are like no there's no way oh that's true an element of like that guy's not in on it I'm like how the ████ am I going to find this car like you just got to say it ████ look at this penny in your shoe Dam you got to bump them you got to bump them look underneath your shirt bro what is this right there but also like like the more you do it the more you like learn how to control people and like you know like if someone's being a little uh you know you learn how to simmer down you know it's kind of like in comedy and hecklers you learn how to work with them and how to okay you can you can you can chill there or you can chill in the back over there you know still trips me out you had him hold the ████ cards and then it melted together cuz of the flame that's ████ insane crazy fly right
22:39 now dude ████ fly
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