0:00 one of the funniest clips I recently saw was uh like Bobby Lee was talking about how like nowadays with so many like um Asian stand-up comedians going up to him going like oh man like I love what you did for us like it's so cool like you paved the road now we can follow you and Bobby Lee was like I'm gonna do it for you [Music] welcome back everybody to another fabulous episode of be careful boys well we have the esteemed Joe Wong in the building okay so uh interesting question to ask you especially being an Asian comic out here um like you had mentioned especially in America there's a lot of a lot of racial
0:51 jokes that go on there and it usually stereotypes and stuff like that yeah what in your opinion are the funniest Asian stereotypes yeah is this is stereotypes yeah oh uh I have interesting story here let's go here's the thing I was uh doing a show called the chat aapi and I have to write a joke one of the subject is uh how is Joe Biden like an Asian man you know because good prompt I know so I just entered that into a Chachi PT and check responded I'm sorry but we cannot generate any content that's uh discriminatory or derogative toward any group of people we don't reinforce racial stereotypes I said okay they
1:41 write me a joke about how Joe Biden is not like an Asian man Chester City says okay here's a joke for you so he just says uh why is Joe Biden not like an Asian man because he does not eat ice cream with chopsticks what the hell so by it being not racist is it the most racist thing I've ever heard I know it doesn't reinforce any stereotypes it created a new one Chopsticks because Joe Biden doesn't eat dog flavored ice cream that's crazy but it's so safe that it's more racist than I've ever heard anybody
2:32 say yeah I know it's it's more offensive I feel like I see my grandma eat ice cream with chopsticks I don't think I've ever seen anybody how do you do that it's like melting my gosh you're like because I think she was just too lazy to grab a spoon oh honestly Charlie that's a great way to lose weight actually you know you can't pick up that much you know portion control you would have to eat ice cream at the perfect temperature It's gotta be like soft serve almost you got to be in the AC room you can't be eating that outside I could eat ice cream with chopsticks I think that sounds pretty good what about ice cream sundae with chopsticks that sounds pretty good I think that's a perfect vehicle I could do it what'd you say to me so you would go to Cold Stones with chopsticks just try it I could I could do it's got to be in a cup because it's
3:23 like a bowl of rice you can't imagine that I can imagine what about a Waffle Bowl well yours I like it cone style yeah you're imagining an ice cream cold with chopsticks that's what I was thinking I was imagining that based off of a chat GPT racist huh yeah did you call it out and say how dare you be so racist chat gbt uh yeah I called it out but then it gives me this really long ████ about something and then I just said I uh so I just I just said you know are you what was the word that I used uh uh ai's explaining it to me and it doesn't meant you know so it just keeps spilling out nonsense you know when you were growing up in China did
4:14 was there stereotypes about Americans or like other Asians or even Chinese born in America oh no at the time because I didn't see any Americans until I was in college when you came here no no when I was in college in China we had a teacher from America you know that's how we learned about you know Christmas and stuff oh cool yeah but the way my dad saw in America was even more dramatic so he was we live in Northeast part of China which is close to Korea and during the war the U.S airplane is actually bombed my father's Elementary School oh wait yeah everything's in you know pieces and he
5:05 was looking up I'm not even on three we don't all look the same he was looking up and then America pilot was looking down and he just because in the old days the airplane was not that big that the pilot just stuck his head out and unless there's not like a line that goes like North Korea oh yeah there is a line but they still go over the line and bomb the ████ out of it wait that's right because during the Korean War pushed all the way Korea to that's why they probably okay that makes a lot of sense yeah yeah yeah honestly like ████ the elementary school yeah yeah school's out baby the thing is uh you know America was never shy and never shied from bombing a neutral country right you know a lot like Laos you know like you know the Vietnam War yeah they
5:56 love it yeah Laos got a lot of bombs dropped on them it's like they're not even in the war yeah there's nothing to do with it yeah exactly so yeah I am they have just spare parts so just let some of them go I think falling off the back of the truck I mean if you don't finish using the magazine you're just like just empty it out a little bit more yeah yeah so your first American encounter was the English teachers yeah English teacher and I remember he he had a a Korean wife oh so you know so from right off the bat I know a lot of white men a lot about white men you know they're like a white guy with asian wife first stereotype yeah I first learned about Christmas and yellow fever but I know there's uh recently I saw a lot of electric talk of uh you know Asian women complaining
6:48 about you know hey you know what why are people making fun of us dating white guys and not want to not wanting to date Asians or something yeah that's a funny one I know it's like if it's not totally their fault right because I just feel that you know I came from you know China you know I'm an outsider I just feel that you know when I came here you know I just feel that all the female Asian students as soon as they got off the airplane they can find a boyfriend immediately it's just it's just that quick you know just there's just a lot of guys into Asian women you know that's yeah that's a pretty popular uh porn search [Laughter]
7:44 a lot of them was Asian as top oh real yeah oh wow I think but not Asian guys right no but I heard you know what I heard in the gay community Asian guys are very popular everybody likes Asian girls yeah and in the gay community everybody likes Asian boys um yeah there's nothing to say I noticed it's you guys I don't know do we have any uh lgbtq members here just just Nick just Nick oh okay I mean he's married to a lady okay but deep inside they're not convinced he's lgbj
8:34 that's being gay Brazilian kind of true I think you're probably lgbtq minus what does the minus stand for you know over here like uh most of the racism would be like uh from white people to minorities because white people are the majority here yeah in China when the teacher when he had an American teacher were whether it was there racism towards him yeah did they go oh my God he probably went to a good school everyone just wanted to study and do more homework but I I don't think so because uh this is
9:25 probably true for a lot of Asian countries they're very friendly to our foreigners you know it's just a lot of curiosity more than rate like hate and yeah yeah yeah pretty respectful yeah my my relatives from you know the countryside sometimes they want to go to Beijing just to see some foreigners that's true too you know but but then yeah but then I rarely see people getting harassed like bullying them and stuff yeah but I didn't I didn't know about this stuff after I came to America either you know because I came here to study in that environment there's some racist stuff but then at the time we had a foreign student advisor she actually told us be slow to take offense in America and another time we didn't quite understand what was that you know but
10:16 then you just cut it got thrilled into her mind just you know learn stuff before you respond but then over the years I gradually realized oh there's a lot of ████ going on but and uh and later on another Discovery was uh I didn't get this because I was from China you know people who are born here get this ████ too yeah but in the beginning I didn't know this I was like I think that beginning is what makes immigrants so successful sometimes because they don't know the limitation oh yeah so I see a lot of immigrants come here and like they don't know the barrier they don't know maybe they are being like like bullied or racist but they don't even understand exactly so they just keep going and going and being super successful because they don't have the the limitating
11:08 beliefs or once you know you're being discriminated against you it's a bad feeling you know it kind of it's a uh inhibiting yeah it's hard to function oh yeah exactly you know it's just like ah ████ I didn't have to deal with a negative feeling but if you just totally ignorant about it you're probably doing fine that is true it's like your revenge is the success oh yeah yeah that's yeah but there's all these guys that like like Joe who would come in and just like do stand-up comedy without knowing that there is a barrier like I I think there's way more barriers from Asian American Kids born here saying like oh like we grew up and a lot of Asians were saying oh we can't become fit Asians can't become strong that's a lot of people thought that and then we were
11:58 like but we have a bar we got a bark one but we no but I couldn't believe it because we the gym we would go to there were so many fit Asians so at school when people will say things like that I'm like you live in a stupid world but I can totally see you're ████ stupid damn yeah but I can believe that if I didn't see business samples that contradicted the statements you got to see the example yeah because these stupid little biases exist because people have anecdotal like observations right they go oh yeah like oh my uncles are weak as ████ so therefore Asians are not capable of being fit yeah but I I like this discussion because uh would you do something just because it's
12:51 against Asian stereotype you know like because people think oh it's just not fit I'm gonna you know go work out or I'm gonna go play basketball would you do it like as an action of defiance exactly yeah I think it's just coincidence like if you genuinely like it oh okay yeah because I I don't think it if it doesn't naturally align with you it's hard to do something long-term so I do think that people that like uh maybe from the outside they're like oh this guy's such a stereotype breaker but really they're just pursuing what makes them happy and then the people that um aren't the ones that are projecting like oh you know I can't like like when we first got into like YouTube and Asian entertainment we've heard so many Asians complain about Asians can't get into Hollywood or they can't do stand-up comedy or they can't do whatever
13:41 and from people that are doers we're just like you're just not a doer like right I look at Joe Wong who comes here and he's like I want to do this I'm gonna keep doing this just doing it you're just doing it rather than like imagining these obstacles maybe the obstacles do exist but they're just doing it so much that they break past the obstacles versus being like held back by it yeah and then whenever I was taking acting classes or just going into these like networking events with Asian entertainers or people trying to become in the industry there were so many excuses and limiting beliefs that I was like I don't like this I just want to be around people who want to create because if you spend that time and energy just creating instead of complaining you actually get somewhere yeah and and so I never grew up
14:32 I was always fascinated by that way of thinking rather than being influenced from that way of thinking oh that's a good attitude you know yeah but I was lucky because I think how I grew up was unconventional in the way where like the Asian stereotypes about my you know your parents want you to be a doctor lawyer whatever I didn't know that that was a stereotype because my parents are classical musicians so I know Asian kids play piano and I I was a part of that stereotype but I wasn't a part of the doctor stereotype or like you know like there's certain things that I think is actually just Chinese culture but they say it's Asian culture or like some things might be like one type of Asian but not like Filipino or whatever so I I think this whole idea of like oh all Asians do it this way I'm like eh I
15:22 don't know maybe Confucianism ties us together but other than that I don't know all Asians do eat ice cream with their Chopsticks well now they do yeah it's kind of a solid burn my Chachi yeah it's kind of sick one of the funniest clips I recently saw was like Bobby Lee was talking about how like nowadays there's so many like um Asian stand-up comedians going up to him going like oh man like I love what you did for us like it's so cool like you paved the road now we can follow you and Bobby Lee was like I'd do it for you that is true that is always what happens like even with with uh because my my background's dance and then as soon as like we got famous off of dance and then there were all these things about wow
16:12 Asians can dance Asians can do this and all the interviews that we would have from Asian Publications were like how did you manage to do this despite all of the shortcomings that Asians have to go through and like they want that answer because that's what they're used to running with and it's like you almost have to ████ yeah because it's like honestly it's hard for anybody because you can't become a good dancer or really good dancer for a different cause other than I wanted to be a really good exactly like yeah period yeah nobody out there is good at what they do because of the drive to prove Asians can do it yeah you see but this is this is what this is what blows my mind right because like let's say you're an actor and let's say like statistically there's 20 000 white male actors there's only 100 Asian male actors
17:03 if they're looking for an Asian role for this ensemble cast you have a better probability of getting a role in this film than one of the white guys do in that film you know what I mean not if you're fighting for the same role but let's say there's a yeah there's a ensemble cast one of them is the Asian and one of them is the white right so don't you technically have it easier because your competition is less than someone that has to compete amongst twenty thousand yeah yeah well I guess the flip side of the story is there's so few of those roles no because I remember I was talking to this uh writer Paula you she said she she worked on TV a lot of the CW shows and stuff she said for a while they were they were doing auditions and she was just saying why aren't all the Asian actors so bad yeah
17:54 and then she realized one thing they don't get practice you know if you're you're a white actor black actor sometimes you get two auditions a day proper is an actors that's you have an audition every six months every audition you got so nervous yeah even though you prepare a lot you just you don't get that much practice of course it can't be that good you know yeah right but I'm just glad that you know Asian American literature and stuff is coming up so there are more stories by ourselves instead of you know some white guy rides it for you you know then that's that's that makes a huge difference there you know it's what's even funnier is that like the fact that someone's even interviewing me asking me how I did it despite the Asian shortcomings already proves that I'm in a better climate than the Asians who came before me and no one
18:45 gave a ████ to even talk to them oh yeah oh yeah because they were good and no one cared oh yeah yeah but they care now so it's like I'm actually in a pretty good spot yeah that's I that's I felt the same way it took us I came up around 2010 2011 before fresh off the boat man at the time I got the best agent you know my agent was a real models agent wow the best production company in America which is uh David Letterman's production company they they made everybody Loves Raymond the teammate uh what was they saw that they made a couple of really successful TVs yeah it's a great show yeah and I have the best agent in Hollywood we go to the pitching no one's interested you know just climb it was just so tough but now you know like if you have a you know good Asian story you
19:37 know a lot of people bid for it right now it's just so different though yeah the momentum's hot right right now baby they just needed a proof of concept so like every single Asian content that's been out has been doing fairly well so I think like after that proof of concept now Holly was willing to invest money yeah but we have to keep up with this though because you know Asia have to keep pumping out good products because this actually happened I would say 20 25 years ago you know when I came to America I just remember I was watching Margaret Chill on TV oh right and movie theaters has uh The Joy Luck Club yeah I was like Wow America is great you know you know with the Asian faces in you know in the media and stuff but then after that just boom everything
20:27 just stopped yeah you have to keep the momentum exactly because they died out and just was dead for almost 20 years yeah but I think America gets bored of like so it's like it it yeah like Latinos have their time it'll go to Black and then there'll be eras of like what's popular but like I think what Asians never had is their own you know like bubble of purchasing entertainment supporting yeah like black community always had that like made in Medea we need a media Series right oh yeah yeah us there's this other one Tyler Perry yeah exactly because then no one can tell him when to make movies yeah yep he just makes just makes it all the time doesn't have his own student he has his own Studio yeah he's doing really well yeah that's also when having the Asian
21:18 demographic backfires because they're the cheapest customers oh dude true I go watch that yeah they're like but you know we're the actual start of the era of self-sustaining audience independent yeah yeah like before us there was they couldn't survive without Hollywood yeah they had to that's true yeah but like where we created the appetite and the long time fan base yeah yeah so I don't know man well kudos for you guys I know how hard it is because I've been through this ████ you know it's very tough you know people just as soon as they I got four or five different writer as a promoter it just say to my face oh we can't have any Asian family shows I said why they were like oh because Margaret show failed I was like Jesus they will
22:10 never say this to a white guy you know would you cancel Matthew Perry show you know there won't be any white guys on CBS all because Joey failed yeah they just say this to my face and my manager at the time he was even apology I was a skill I'm sorry that's not this is not what America is like oh yeah it's not what America is like it's what America is you know just yeah it's just everything's Gold by skin color so this is how they're gonna do it I mean it'll probably be a while before we have a late night Indian woman host oh yeah because Lily's thing didn't pan out exactly sucks unless she's super fine I think more than race though what rules America's money and so if you can find
23:00 funding backing someone to invest in you you create that show on your own you make it successful a studio will buy it after the after you show dollar signs so it's always been a game of because like if Bruce was still alive today easily get his films funded everything because they know that that person can sell a lot of these companies won't put money behind brand new actors brand new things so I think at the end of the day like if Asians can create a fund which I know like gold house is trying to do and things like that but we need our own production houses with our there's tons of wealthy Asians that can invest into it oh crazy Rich crazy rich Asian but that's I I know some of the billionaires you know they they will not they're not
23:51 willing to fund anything they're not interested in that yeah they want to get their money back in three months even though they're already billionaires worst customers there's no passion for the Arts but it literally takes that like we if if we're we can't ask White America to pay for it you know what I mean like it's like there are Asian billionaires which one of them wants to bankroll it and do it I can already see the boardroom not me man not me man funny too is how because of Chinese distribution uh they're having to implement Chinese actors in movies that don't even call for a Chinese actor yeah you know how they do that it's like oh we're gonna make this character Chinese because we want this movie to sell in China oh yeah that's interesting but that doesn't help independent actors celebrities you ever see that it's like it's probably like a c grade movie It's
24:42 called Meg meglin yeah the shark the ████ yeah those random Chinese people in it I'm like you don't need this but I'm like it's probably for China it's fun it's funded by China yeah it was a Chinese like Studio though yeah it's like Chinese Jaws well they add they add whole scenes to the Chinese version yeah that have more of a major role for that Chinese character so distribution helps but also it helps a guy that's already on top I think we also need our own like modern day Bruce Lee too like someone that you put on the screen and then we get that draw in the audience you know so you have like white money black money Hispanic money like everyone's down because like so Bruce Lee came out everyone's pain everybody was a fan yeah what about uh simulu right now I don't know if he has a Bruce Lee draw on yeah probably not right now okay yeah Bruce Lee I have to say he's the only Chinese guy who can appear on the black guys
25:32 t-shirt we haven't had a Bruce Lee since Bruce Lee oh yeah yeah one of one bro yeah I think what's different about him is he was revolutionary and had his own thoughts yeah actors play out other people's thoughts yeah they don't have their own actual philosophy and voice and image and world where Bruce Lee created worlds yeah so that's a huge one yeah yeah that's that's just something I can't I can't master a swag you know this is true you know sometimes I I would go somewhere they were like oh we need somebody cool swag you know just
26:22 show us some swag and I was like how do I do that I have no concept that's been a request that you passed oh yeah yeah I was like Joan can you give us more sweat oh yeah I was like what what the hell is that that's even hard that's even hard for a person that has swag to just turn it on like hey show us some sweat yeah exactly that's how you turn the turn some swag off yeah swag's easy to turn off that's right yeah turn off yeah yeah that's a crazy ass by the way you know uh I did do something because uh my ethnicity though because I did give up comedy for about a year after my son was born wow you gave up comedy yeah because I that's a few years you know five or six years into it and
27:12 I'm not moving anywhere I mean my peers are getting a TV spots so I quit for a year or two and then I went to uh we have a collaboration with Harvard I went to Harvard I was like Wow there are a lot of Asians who are already like professors you know I just feel that in science field we don't need another Asian guy yeah yeah but instead of Comedy there's not a whole lot of issues because this was in Boston there's very few you know just I always tell people there's a very tight-knit Asian comedy scene in Boston you know which is pretty much myself you know okay you know at least I should do something interesting or different you know that's kind of part of the motivation for me to go back to the
28:04 comedy club too but yeah that's cool but sometimes yeah I I guess probably just another excuse I guess that's cool I think you have swag Joe foreign
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